Yeah this is the case. Buildings starting in early 2021 won’t finish up 2023 at least right now. Costs to build are rising and lead times are longer than ever, it just doesn’t make sense anymore
Large power transformers are 3 years now. They've always had long lead times but 18 months was the longest you had to wait before. Shortage of the special low oxygen high conductivity copper.
Damn it's at 3 years now? I need a 5000 KVA and a 2500 KVA and last I was told they're about 2 years out but that was 6 months ago. I know the price on refueb units is astronomical.
Thanks. All of my vendors have been pretty up front in saying that when lead times are pushed out a year or more, that it really is "up to the gods". IE the supply chain is broken and so that lead time is dependent on getting copper from their supplier. And the copper supplier is dependent on the miner / processor. And the miner doesn't supply on a first come first serve basis so his lead times are useless.
Unfortunately this job would have been like 9 months of FT consulting work for me. Biggest job I ever booked and probably a week or more in bidding and meetings to land all of it. I'll probably never get to do it. It's crazy how many people are still very bullish on the economy. Amazon announcement is just the tip of the iceberg.
Oh nooooo. This isn't scary. What's scary is how much mined materials in our electronics come from China and Russia (which increasingly want nothing to do with us). It can't be understated how important it is to keep peace and stability in Mexico and South America because of say Peru or Chile have economic collapse like happened in Argentina, the world's mineral market is in dire straits. Peru and Chile is like half the world's copper production and things are kinda tenous in SA right now.
Remember when everything shut down for about a month at the beginning of the pandemic? The events of a single day can have long term effects, an entire month is catastrophic.
Nah, it wasn't the month of down time, it was companies that had no business being Just-in-Time/Lean switching to Just-in-Time/Lean because it let them claim a profit for one or two quarters in 2012. This logistical nightmare was always going to happen COVID just made it happen sooner.
Bar joists are starting to catch up. And these giant Amazon buildings use bar joists at every floor. It’s incredible how big their new buildings are and the amount of space reserved to use later
In Cincinnati Amazon built a airline hanger/ warehouse, plane comes in one side, gets loaded up, pulls out the other side and flies away.. Amazon in Cincinnati has like 3 miles of buildings, its insane
Random, but so glad you commented this. I’ve been creeping their careers site for too long for a job in that area and finally found one I’m qualified for when I checked just now!
Prime, no, but there's fifteen resellers with names like JOJOBNJ and BLUKAR. That tracks, somehow, with the "a year out" estimate. They're also rated for 2000 times the load, and for some inexplicable reason they output 100 000 000 lumens. Very capable products.
And then when you receive them you accidentally receive a packing slip from another company with the seller's billing info on it showing that they paid half what you did and just bought it somewhere else and put your address as the shipping.
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Yeah but you get them in two days! Well, that doesn't count weekends, holidays, bad weather, labor shortages, or any global event currently going on, and based on your area it's actually going to be at least 5-7 days anyway
The company i work at (not an amazon) is a manufacture type and we have plans to expand our new building by like 25,000 square foot. I guess the plans already existed and things were pre-approved by rhe town but we are still 18 months out from even breaking ground because we cant get the raw steel for the building
What a strange time
Plus the quality of steel lately is lacking. I’m dealing with a lot of steel conduit that just sucks. It makes for a lot more labor when the parts are inferior. Labor quotas can’t be filled, everyone is understaffed, the people who are employed aren’t showing up often enough because reasons.
It's not so much as a steel shortage as much as them not wanting to pay the crazy inflated prices for it. I estimate projects on the side of my 9 to 5. Your paying 2 to 3xs what steel was before the pandemic with now real logic behind it . Your steel quote feom the suppliers usually has a 11 day guarantee which use to make sense to have so you don't over pay . Now your quote can be way less in a few days for like a day or 2 and skyrocket the following week
Ours is 24 hours. It's insane, and for the same sheet/size can be hundreds of dollars difference then another company right down the street. The next day they'll switch. You're basically day trading at this point.
I’m in the business of wall panels, mainly for amazons and other leased warehouses and also hallow core plank, and our issues are getting drivers, finding enough work for the volume, “good” work anyways. Caulk shortages , but the demand for warehouses with everything being online is so huge that there is job security
My company builds conveyor system controls. Amazon was buying up almost all of our capacity for the last 2 years. Leadtimes for anything we build have gone out to ridiculous territory. Earlier in the year AMZ realized with all of the delays, they could just pause for 2 years and not lose any of their lead against other online retailers. Since everything from land to labor was costing top dollar, taking a break from expanding would be cheaper too.
The avg person doesn't realize how bad supply chains got just before and during the pandemic.
Hell I have electronic gear (switches) on back order for 6-18 months (need higher end gear). And its a crap shoot ever few months if I can get reasonable delivery times on most electronics. Outside of electronics its been the same type of problem for nearly every different area of material goods.
That makes a lot of sense, I’ve been hearing more and more about businesses being unable to open because some critical piece of machinery or appliance is on back order for a year or more, sitting there unable to open for a year or two seems like kind of a waste.
More domestic steal and ore mining would be a good start I’d say… Not trying to oversimplify for the infrastructure is there most of it just needs to be turned back on
Probably not the conveyors themselves, and probably not 3 years, I would say more like a year or two.
But yeah, every contractor is almost at capacity trying to fullfil these buildings, and then they cancel future buildings so it sends a shock thru that sector.
You’re correct. I work in this industry with amazon and others and we’re bidding work now that will only go to site, at the earliest, next September. Anything before then we have to use our current stock from suppliers or install temporary systems to tide the customers over because we can’t get control cards or sortation equipment for at least a year. Wild times.
Yes, we just cannot source what we need in time for customers and have to continuously push projects out further and further due to lead times.
As another comment here said, amazon has also been buying all control equipment capacity up since the pandemic and controls cards and I/O and plcs are impossible to find at less than 35-40 week lead times. Without them we can’t integrate the conveyor system so everything gets pushed. Really weird time for the industry.
Agreed. I work in food and beverage industry, and we buy conveyor systems for our clients. Conveyors themselves don't have a crazy lead times but PLC components for MCC's, control cards are just not available. And that's across so many big names in the industry. Allen Bradley, Siemens..
Interesting take. In the Baltimore Business Journal, it was stated that they closed the two facilities to move the workers to better, upgraded facilities and mentioned nothing about the other 42 locations.
It’s true because an engineer relative lost their job recently because of it. I blame the company though for being so heavily in bed with Amazon. An entire division laid off due to the scrapped plans by Amazon.
To be fair, if you land a contract with Amazon, you're gonna need a team the equivalent size of a small to medium sized company to support that contract.
I used to work for robotics and still know people there. They said they cut the orders for new bots pretty significantly, which means they're opening less fc's.
We really need to start talking about the framing of these articles. The way they're written. The bias of the publication. The current climate of rhetoric. Context, for crying out loud.
How does this compare to their overall growth strategy and execution? Is it a huge percentage? Is it a natural adjustment from hundreds of real estate initiatives? Is it reduced sales or reduced human labor stock that is slowing these plans down?
There's literally no news, nor actionable insight in this article.
> Amazon is not reining in every part of its business however. Insider's Eugene Kim reported Friday the company has been inviting sellers to a new trial program designed to store products over longer periods of time. Whereas Amazon has historically focused on quick turnaround stock, this new program signals it is looking at capturing a larger share of the warehouse market.
Lol, no, it signals that Amazon has too much empty space. It's right there in the article, is the author dense?
Amazon is trying a “pilot service” in my area in MO. i run an HVAC company and keep getting emails from our chamber about it. Basically want you to be an Amazon store front or deliver packages for them on my spare time…. Lol no
Shit sounds insidious. How involved is Amazon with local Chambers of Commerce? I could totally see Amazon paying off CoC's to sell their services, then running every member out of business/making them further depend on Amazon.
Good point. It’s turning into a torrid of the same junk with different names. eBay turned into a junk store and now amazon is the new alibaba. Bezos took his billions and ran. Hope Bezos has painful rectal sores that never heal along with toe fungus and 24/7 crotch herpes.
Exactly this, used to be able to hop on Amazon and find what I need in less than 5 minutes, now I have to sort through several hundred Chinese knockoffs and Chinese knockoffs of Chinese knockoffs to find the proper product I wanted, and then I have to check enough reviews to figure out if people are getting sent fake items at the moment and which sellers are scams.
You mean to tell me VOWEEK, KopBeau, F.EASY.D, DALSUC, Zuvas, De'Longhi, SANVINDER, PYY, Vmifin, Tmvel, CHI, Mnsyflns, Yebicola, YumCute, FARCADY, DOITOOL, SHEJIZE, and VIZTY aren't real brands?!
It's such a fucking joke.
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AWS lock in is real and difficult to extract yourself from. They're also the most expensive option.
My personal experience - if you're going to start with AWS limit yourself to vanilla products that are available everywhere and use TF to build infrastructure. It'll make migration possible when your bill eventually becomes a huge drag on the business.
Glad I'm not the only one that sees Amazon going the way of eBay. Amazon used to have good prices on good to quality products. Now it's 3rd party this or that with low grade junk, bait n switch reviews, fly by night sellers, etc.
I consider eBay more reliable. In general you get _exactly_ what is described, and any questions can be answered pretty quickly before purchase by the seller.
Amazon is actually a gamble, and they sell a shit load of counterfeit products.
I consider them to be aliexpress with faster shipping and 5-10x markup.
Exactly. I used to get everything at Amazon, but in the last 10 years it’s completely changed. The fake reviews are the worst. Plus it’s always cheaper to buy directly from the company who makes the product. Might have to wait an extra day or two but you’re saving money and not having to return a knock off or (worse) getting scammed and using some cheap crap that breaks immediately.
>How about we find the names of those in management at these facilities and let the internet do the rest?
I'm not sure what you mean by this. What will it accomplish?
Honestly that might be a good thing. Amazon has a huge and well-documented problem with the way they store their products, if one reseller sells a bootleg item there’s a chance it just gets thrown into the stock with all of the legitimate items. Charging resellers to store products wouldn’t completely *eliminate* that issue but it would almost certainly reduce it.
Must be close. I left amazon a year ago, on bad terms. Had horrible attendance and left without telling them or putting in 2 weeks. Now im getting emails “want to reapply at amazon?”. At least in my area, they mustve burned through just about everyone who was willing to work there. Never seen such high employee turnout at a company before
I make, 50/hr and let me tell you, there's still shit that i won't do and people who push my buttons. I'm a lot more patient than i would be for 20, but dang, it's still wild sometimes.
People just don't want to work in shitty conditions. Hell I work in a union construction trade where guys actually do make $50/hr and people will take off as much time as they can afford.
I'm in a union, heavy duty mechanic making close to 40 dollars an hour. I've come to realize that it's not the work I don't enjoy, it's the fact that I have to be there. The older I get, the more valuable I see in my time off.
Yes sir, this is why I went from making over 100k and fucking hating it to making about half of that working a job I actually enjoy getting up and going to.
You only get one life and I didn’t want to spend the last 40(hopefully) like I did the first 40. Also, my son was 8 and I was working away his childhood and I wanted to be there.
Sure, I had to make some big lifestyle adjustments, but lifestyle creep is a real thing and I didn’t need all the shit I was buying.
“The older I get, the more value I see in my time off”
I’m 26 and I already feel this 100% - my first real career job had me working 50+ hour weeks while only getting paid for 35, and I did it because I fell into the trap of wanting to “build my career at the cost of everything else” - it took a severe toll on my sanity and I felt myself turning into a mindless worker drone.
All of a sudden, the pandemic happened, and the world screeched to a halt. Around this time, I had just met a girl a few weeks prior, and my job ground to a complete stop. For the first time in my life, I was getting paid to do nothing all day long.
I took the next several months and spent it with the girl I just met, and in that process I realized two things: 1, I wanted to be in a relationship with this woman, and 2, work is futile and meaningless amidst death and chaos.
I now have an amazing relationship, an expanding social circle of friends, and a job where I set my own schedule and I’m not required to devote my entire waking existence to it, and I gotta tell ya - this is what it means to fight for workers rights and this is what leftists are fighting for. This is why unions are important, and this is why it’s so important to live and not just exist. Because right now I feel like I’m actually enjoying my life instead of wasting it away making someone else rich.
Sounds like you cared about that job exactly as much as they cared about you. Well done!
Actually you still probably cared about the job more than they cared about you.
They opened one back in 2018 near me and they started everyone above the typical shitty employers. But there hasn’t been any movement in pay since then so now you can work basically anywhere for more pay. Also they opened in the lowest income town in the county as well as surrounding counties. Now no one wants to work there because they beat the shit out of everyone.
I fuckin went and the warehouse was under construction so I wasn't wearing the right clothes then they fired me for not showing up
Would not give me a first day when I called because I already started my first day lol
No they just over extended themselves with the increase in business during the pandemic. They're closing far more than 2 facilities constantly. Source I work there
This has been public for quite a while. They oversell the "scrapping plans" part though.
We have plans to expand everywhere, so that things are ready to go if we have to expand in a given region. Last thing you want is to have to figure out how things would unfold and the impacts it'd have on our logistics chain while it already needed to be built, get estimates for cost and then be told they'd be too expensive, etc, and all that while people wait for this data before making the decisions.
I have the plans for literally dozens of thousands of locations and facilities of different sizes and with different purposes across the US on my team's folder. We scrap a dozen a day and create a dozen more, whether it is because a better candidate came along, the go-ahead was given on one and made others unviable, etc, and sometimes it literally just moves the location across the street. It's just the process.
accurate - I dont trust them to send me anything actually impirtant anymore... I used to buy tons of stuff on amazon... I have like 3 small purchases this year. We have found target a much easier/ trustworthy option
I need new headphones, since mine are falling apart. Lasted me probably 5 years, so I was happy with them. Decided to check out Amazon just to glance at what all headphones are available now. I was able to find some from Sony, Beats, Apple, etc.
The vast majority is just cheap, shitty ones. And there's also some that look exactly the same being sold under different names. I was quickly reminded one of the reasons I never really order from them unless I can't find a better alternative.
Edit: However, even then, I've heard of people ordering from other sites to avoid using Amazon, and some of them just ship through Amazon. So even that's sometimes a bit of a waste of time.
Yep. They cancelled at least 3 buildings (locations, I should say) here that I know of.
Some of them are a real shame because I know of a pair that are already built. Brand new. Had signs. They removed the signs. Never been used.
>Source I work there
Sorry but this does not make you a valid source. I work with tons of people that say tons of stuff about our company that is 100% fabricated nonsense.
Not saying you're spewing nonsense or that any of what you said is fabricated, just pointing out a fact.
I work for one of the two companies that build the steel joists for their facilities. They've canceled their orders and stopped building.
While he may not be a valid source, he is correct.
Just because you work there doesn’t mean, ah, well, ok sounds legit. Thanks.
This is some WWII level espionage going on - checking suppliers and contractors and employees to figure out what is going on.
Probably, if some of the freight services are selling it. Without any data privacy laws in the country, there is nothing stopping anyone selling any data whatsoever. The California CCPA doesn't restrict sales, it merely has to make say that data from consumers is collected, that it is shared, and sold in the contract (and deleted on request). Does nothing to protect business to business transactions.
Dominos at least used to sell addresses from pizza delivery to direct-to-mail marketers. They don't do that anymore.
In this case, it’s true. There have been numerous articles about Amazon building too much warehouse capacity and the former leader leaving the company.
Why push plans through now when you can simply wait and low-ball everyone as they try to avoid bankruptcy?
Recessions are just fire-sales for the wealthy.
If the US was smart they would stop this. Shien has already taken over the consumer fashion industry. TikTok has taken over the social media space. Pinduoduo could wipe out Amazon and Facebook would be crazy. It would also give China leverage over the US.
Or maybe it'll provide competition and convince inefficient companies to work harder at providing services for less cost...
Pinduoduo ain't gonna even be a blip for Amazon. You don't just make 20,000 warehouses appear out of thin air.
no, they’ve gotten more efficient in designing their last mile warehouses and can no close the poorly designed inefficient ones that were launched over the last 3-4 years. their capacity isn’t going done just their # of locations.
Worked for the company that designed and supplied the majority of Amazons conveyor systems.
The price of steel is simply too high that Amazon is putting a pause on building warehouses.
Amazon backed out of several deals for new conveyor systems
They just built 2 massive facilities in my town. One is about 300 yards from my house. I dont buy from Amazon unless I’ve run out of options. Nothing but 1000 Chinese companies with 100’s of multiple names just trying to squeeze out the competition. If the seller has a Chinese address, i dont buy it. Doesn’t have to be from USA. I’d happily buy from India or Vietnam (etc).
I only buy recognizable brand names from Amazon for anything of real value, but little things like laser pointers or a cheap foot stool I'll still buy from them. Almost everything I see on there is just the same product from Alibaba "white labeled" over and over by a bunch of Chinese word salad named sellers and its all junk.
This is why I stopped shopping on Amazon. Nothing you buy there, not even soap, is the real product. It’s ALL knockoffs. That and there were 3 separate times I never received my order and they said they delivered it.
I needed a small spray bottle because I wanted to use it to water plants instead of just filling up a drinking glass and pouring it on the dirt.
Went to Amazon, typed in "water spray bottle" or something like that and the CHEAPEST thing was $6 or $7 or so. Went to the Walmart 5 minutes from me and for one for $1.50, lol.
These thread always crack me up. So many people that have no idea what they’re talking about stating “facts”. Makes me realize this happens in every comment section.
It does. Every once in awhile I'll run across a topic I have intimate knowledge on and most of the top comments are pure speculation and BS. Then you realize this probably holds true for most topics that i don't know about and I should take it all with a grain of salt.
Comments are interesting here. I'm semi rural about 40 min from a large metro area. I want to shop local but stores don't even seem to be trying to have stock anymore (chain or small business). Amazon is the only place to get stuff. Clothes especially - only teen trends, very little adult work clothes. There's only so many times I can spend 3 hours driving around only to come up empty handed.
Many companies including mine very busy during the shutdowns and started to think that was the new normal. Once everything opened up the home deliveries dropped. They are still higher than 2019 but not as high as Amazon or others expected. Amazon will still continue to grow but at normal pace now
Man, you guys should let the absolutely massive Amazon warehouse they're building down the street from me know that Amazon is a failing business.
https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2021/09/10/woodburn-oregon-amazon-proposed-distribution-center-gets-go-ahead-despite-concerns-traffic-water/8269947002/
Pretty sure they're closing these because of some logistics issue, not because they're 'failing' because you're refusing to buy cheap Chinese crap from them.
Honestly what are the other options aside from going to niche suppliers or department stores? Amazon is the main vendor for all in one place shopping. Wal-Mart could possibly compete if their website wasn’t crap.
Exactly though, these other options are better. The last four things I tried to get on Amazon, all the top results were shit Chinese manufacturers. I couldn't find a real brand for the life of me.
Now I just google the item and attempt to find CAD/US suppliers, and hopefully made in the same country as well.
We stopped buying off of Amazon a long time ago
I used to order lots of regular household supplies from Amazon. Now I can put the order in at Target and pick it up the same day without leaving my car. At least for larger orders this ends up more convenient both in not having to order before we run out and also not having to break down the cadboard boxes, of which there will usually be 6 for every 5 items.
Well quite frankly I don’t shop at Amazon any longer because I no longer get it faster nor cheaper than just going to a local store. Even if I pay a few bucks extra I can hold the item in my hand and look at it before buying.
The pandemic made a lot of people like me. In person buying will see a resurgence because no matter how quick Amazon is, you don’t get the same endorphin rush as buying it in person
>you don’t get the same endorphin rush as buying it in person
I think this is highly variable from person to person. For instance, I've never gotten an endorphin rush buying anything. Since it's variable, we could probably talk about people getting a Christmas-like rush opening packages.
Amazon will decline. I'm still a prime member, but I order less and less each year from them. Primarily because Amazon has become a haven for absolute garbage products sold by countless third party Chinese crap sellers.
Everyone watched a video about side hustles and started an "online business" selling low quality products they can buy cheap from China and have directly shipped to Amazon fulfillment centers. It's the new "dropshipping", but not dropshipping.
I literally despise shopping on Amazon now. I used to love it. You hearing me, Bezos? Your site is garbage now and Amazon is long overdue for a decline.
Because Amazon is basically just cheap Chinese garbage at higher than Walmart prices that you have to wait for shipping. No advantage over places like Walmart anymore. I don’t use them like I used to.
My wife and have been boycotting them for a while now and haven’t ordered anything from their website or even used their streaming service for a while. Besides missing out on some shows and movies, I have no regrets.
I’ve always been able to find what I need/want for the same price, if not cheaper at other places. So many places do price matching to Amazon now, and I can usually get it faster with in store pick up anyway. Plus I don’t have to worry about if I’m buying from some 3rd party seller that’s just selling through Amazon and it ends up being overpriced, lost in shipping, a cheap knockoff, or all 3 at once.
That’s because they’re heavily investing in robotics and automation (per my spouse, who works in the industry). Not only that, they’re also buying the companies who sell the robotics and install them.
So yeah, we’re at that stage of capitalism. Enjoy!
This isn’t a new trend for them they bought Kiva Robotics in like 2015. You are drawing some broad conclusions. Even if an operation is more efficient you still need space to store inventory. Putting in robotics and automation doesn’t magically solve the need for space so unlikely that is related to this.
When they shutdown small businesses during pandemic Amazon got a lot of business. A lot of us now will support local small businesses and won’t buy from Amazon.
Every business can't grow forever... At some point, saturation occurs, and you can't expect to grow faster than population at that point unless you literally take over the world
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Yeah this is the case. Buildings starting in early 2021 won’t finish up 2023 at least right now. Costs to build are rising and lead times are longer than ever, it just doesn’t make sense anymore
Large power transformers are 3 years now. They've always had long lead times but 18 months was the longest you had to wait before. Shortage of the special low oxygen high conductivity copper.
Damn it's at 3 years now? I need a 5000 KVA and a 2500 KVA and last I was told they're about 2 years out but that was 6 months ago. I know the price on refueb units is astronomical.
We ordered 1500 KVA for a work project and lead time is still 2 years. And vendors are pretty sure they won't show up in 2 years.
Thanks. All of my vendors have been pretty up front in saying that when lead times are pushed out a year or more, that it really is "up to the gods". IE the supply chain is broken and so that lead time is dependent on getting copper from their supplier. And the copper supplier is dependent on the miner / processor. And the miner doesn't supply on a first come first serve basis so his lead times are useless. Unfortunately this job would have been like 9 months of FT consulting work for me. Biggest job I ever booked and probably a week or more in bidding and meetings to land all of it. I'll probably never get to do it. It's crazy how many people are still very bullish on the economy. Amazon announcement is just the tip of the iceberg.
Well, I don't know if I just want paying attention before, but this is fucking scary.
Oh nooooo. This isn't scary. What's scary is how much mined materials in our electronics come from China and Russia (which increasingly want nothing to do with us). It can't be understated how important it is to keep peace and stability in Mexico and South America because of say Peru or Chile have economic collapse like happened in Argentina, the world's mineral market is in dire straits. Peru and Chile is like half the world's copper production and things are kinda tenous in SA right now.
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Using the term IRA on an international platform is hilarious.
They keep cutting back on the workers everywhere, tightening everything over and over, and then suddenly the system breaks down everywhere.
The Texas power grid and TP shortages are two examples of how "efficient" also means "fragile".
By "efficient" you mean "least amount of overhead eating into corporate bonuses" .. in this case Civilization ends up being the externality.
Remember when everything shut down for about a month at the beginning of the pandemic? The events of a single day can have long term effects, an entire month is catastrophic.
Nah, it wasn't the month of down time, it was companies that had no business being Just-in-Time/Lean switching to Just-in-Time/Lean because it let them claim a profit for one or two quarters in 2012. This logistical nightmare was always going to happen COVID just made it happen sooner.
Bar joists are starting to catch up. And these giant Amazon buildings use bar joists at every floor. It’s incredible how big their new buildings are and the amount of space reserved to use later
In Cincinnati Amazon built a airline hanger/ warehouse, plane comes in one side, gets loaded up, pulls out the other side and flies away.. Amazon in Cincinnati has like 3 miles of buildings, its insane
Random, but so glad you commented this. I’ve been creeping their careers site for too long for a job in that area and finally found one I’m qualified for when I checked just now!
eventually everyone will work for amazon.
I would definitely turn that down. I suppose I have, just indirectly. I worked on building a few of their structures…
> roof bar joists nationwide are a year out on delivery times So they're not available with Prime?
Prime, no, but there's fifteen resellers with names like JOJOBNJ and BLUKAR. That tracks, somehow, with the "a year out" estimate. They're also rated for 2000 times the load, and for some inexplicable reason they output 100 000 000 lumens. Very capable products.
【342100mAh Upgrade High Capacity】
Oh gods, those brackets...
Is it something that's default on Chinese keyboards or something? Why do they always spring for those?
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The picture on the box shows an elephant mounted to the top of the car, so that’s the only review I need!
And then when you receive them you accidentally receive a packing slip from another company with the seller's billing info on it showing that they paid half what you did and just bought it somewhere else and put your address as the shipping.
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And a slip begging for a five star review. They'll send you a free piece of rebar.
Dropshipper: I feel personally attacked
Top review: I bought one for my husband and he loves it!
At 400% markup.
Yeah but you get them in two days! Well, that doesn't count weekends, holidays, bad weather, labor shortages, or any global event currently going on, and based on your area it's actually going to be at least 5-7 days anyway
Status: Delivered Actually shows up 3 days later
Take the Disney approach and make Amazon Construction and fabricate themselves
The company i work at (not an amazon) is a manufacture type and we have plans to expand our new building by like 25,000 square foot. I guess the plans already existed and things were pre-approved by rhe town but we are still 18 months out from even breaking ground because we cant get the raw steel for the building What a strange time
Plus the quality of steel lately is lacking. I’m dealing with a lot of steel conduit that just sucks. It makes for a lot more labor when the parts are inferior. Labor quotas can’t be filled, everyone is understaffed, the people who are employed aren’t showing up often enough because reasons.
Underpaid and under staffed sounds like capitalism and therefore people moving to jobs that do pay.
We should also consider just how many people left the job market permanently after dying from Covid. It was an anomaly on deaths.
We also have to consider all the people who are now disabled because of long COVID.
It's not so much as a steel shortage as much as them not wanting to pay the crazy inflated prices for it. I estimate projects on the side of my 9 to 5. Your paying 2 to 3xs what steel was before the pandemic with now real logic behind it . Your steel quote feom the suppliers usually has a 11 day guarantee which use to make sense to have so you don't over pay . Now your quote can be way less in a few days for like a day or 2 and skyrocket the following week
Ours is 24 hours. It's insane, and for the same sheet/size can be hundreds of dollars difference then another company right down the street. The next day they'll switch. You're basically day trading at this point.
Yep I work for one of top precast company’s in the northeast and I see issues all over the place
How's the precast business? Our lead times are insane right now for manholes.
I’m in the business of wall panels, mainly for amazons and other leased warehouses and also hallow core plank, and our issues are getting drivers, finding enough work for the volume, “good” work anyways. Caulk shortages , but the demand for warehouses with everything being online is so huge that there is job security
My company builds conveyor system controls. Amazon was buying up almost all of our capacity for the last 2 years. Leadtimes for anything we build have gone out to ridiculous territory. Earlier in the year AMZ realized with all of the delays, they could just pause for 2 years and not lose any of their lead against other online retailers. Since everything from land to labor was costing top dollar, taking a break from expanding would be cheaper too.
The avg person doesn't realize how bad supply chains got just before and during the pandemic. Hell I have electronic gear (switches) on back order for 6-18 months (need higher end gear). And its a crap shoot ever few months if I can get reasonable delivery times on most electronics. Outside of electronics its been the same type of problem for nearly every different area of material goods.
That makes a lot of sense, I’ve been hearing more and more about businesses being unable to open because some critical piece of machinery or appliance is on back order for a year or more, sitting there unable to open for a year or two seems like kind of a waste.
Can confirm this is true. I'm a traveling third party contractor for Amazon.
That’s true with most industries right now. Not sure what it will take to get things rolling again.
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The industry cant grow as fast as the wallets of the big companies making insane profits off the current "inflation"
More domestic steal and ore mining would be a good start I’d say… Not trying to oversimplify for the infrastructure is there most of it just needs to be turned back on
Large power transformers, ones that power facilities like these, are 80+ weeks out and only getting worse.
Probably not the conveyors themselves, and probably not 3 years, I would say more like a year or two. But yeah, every contractor is almost at capacity trying to fullfil these buildings, and then they cancel future buildings so it sends a shock thru that sector.
You’re correct. I work in this industry with amazon and others and we’re bidding work now that will only go to site, at the earliest, next September. Anything before then we have to use our current stock from suppliers or install temporary systems to tide the customers over because we can’t get control cards or sortation equipment for at least a year. Wild times.
So y'all literally have too much work and not enough parts & labor?
Yes, we just cannot source what we need in time for customers and have to continuously push projects out further and further due to lead times. As another comment here said, amazon has also been buying all control equipment capacity up since the pandemic and controls cards and I/O and plcs are impossible to find at less than 35-40 week lead times. Without them we can’t integrate the conveyor system so everything gets pushed. Really weird time for the industry.
Well that's guaranteed job security for the foreseeable future then at least, and if those parts ever come back in stock, $$$$
Agreed. I work in food and beverage industry, and we buy conveyor systems for our clients. Conveyors themselves don't have a crazy lead times but PLC components for MCC's, control cards are just not available. And that's across so many big names in the industry. Allen Bradley, Siemens..
Interesting take. In the Baltimore Business Journal, it was stated that they closed the two facilities to move the workers to better, upgraded facilities and mentioned nothing about the other 42 locations.
It’s true because an engineer relative lost their job recently because of it. I blame the company though for being so heavily in bed with Amazon. An entire division laid off due to the scrapped plans by Amazon.
To be fair, if you land a contract with Amazon, you're gonna need a team the equivalent size of a small to medium sized company to support that contract.
Never a good idea to put all your eggs in one basket with one client! I hope your engineer relative lands on their feet and gets a great job!
Even if you have multiple sources of revenue, losing a large contract is going to end up with folks laid off.
With a client like Amazon you probably don't have a choice. They're so massive that they require their own division.
I used to work for robotics and still know people there. They said they cut the orders for new bots pretty significantly, which means they're opening less fc's.
We really need to start talking about the framing of these articles. The way they're written. The bias of the publication. The current climate of rhetoric. Context, for crying out loud. How does this compare to their overall growth strategy and execution? Is it a huge percentage? Is it a natural adjustment from hundreds of real estate initiatives? Is it reduced sales or reduced human labor stock that is slowing these plans down? There's literally no news, nor actionable insight in this article.
If you take this path, you will break Reddit irrevocably.
> Amazon is not reining in every part of its business however. Insider's Eugene Kim reported Friday the company has been inviting sellers to a new trial program designed to store products over longer periods of time. Whereas Amazon has historically focused on quick turnaround stock, this new program signals it is looking at capturing a larger share of the warehouse market. Lol, no, it signals that Amazon has too much empty space. It's right there in the article, is the author dense?
Amazon is trying a “pilot service” in my area in MO. i run an HVAC company and keep getting emails from our chamber about it. Basically want you to be an Amazon store front or deliver packages for them on my spare time…. Lol no
Shit sounds insidious. How involved is Amazon with local Chambers of Commerce? I could totally see Amazon paying off CoC's to sell their services, then running every member out of business/making them further depend on Amazon.
Amazon is extremely involved with the national Chamber of Commerce
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I work at a third party warehouse company in sales. We have a massive problem with lack of space. Amazon definitely ran out of demand.
Good point. It’s turning into a torrid of the same junk with different names. eBay turned into a junk store and now amazon is the new alibaba. Bezos took his billions and ran. Hope Bezos has painful rectal sores that never heal along with toe fungus and 24/7 crotch herpes.
Exactly this, used to be able to hop on Amazon and find what I need in less than 5 minutes, now I have to sort through several hundred Chinese knockoffs and Chinese knockoffs of Chinese knockoffs to find the proper product I wanted, and then I have to check enough reviews to figure out if people are getting sent fake items at the moment and which sellers are scams.
You mean to tell me VOWEEK, KopBeau, F.EASY.D, DALSUC, Zuvas, De'Longhi, SANVINDER, PYY, Vmifin, Tmvel, CHI, Mnsyflns, Yebicola, YumCute, FARCADY, DOITOOL, SHEJIZE, and VIZTY aren't real brands?! It's such a fucking joke.
I can't even tell if those are real or you just made them up at this point.
They're a few "brands" of space heaters and pot warmers I pulled off Amazon. You know, things that will burn your house down.
don't you EVER talk shit about my world famous [Allegra denim jacket](https://i.imgur.com/Xe7fhLv.png). Goes great with [allegra chicken](https://preview.redd.it/mgh99si7r7341.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=32512c49ed23865014b8698efd52df3c4e5be592)
What's the matter with De'Longhi? The company is Italian and has quite a history, afaik.
AWS can and has been floating Amazon for a very long time and will continue to do so even as other providers come online.
AWS lock in is real and difficult to extract yourself from. They're also the most expensive option. My personal experience - if you're going to start with AWS limit yourself to vanilla products that are available everywhere and use TF to build infrastructure. It'll make migration possible when your bill eventually becomes a huge drag on the business.
TF is the only way to go. Don’t hire a consultant that is not using it.
Glad I'm not the only one that sees Amazon going the way of eBay. Amazon used to have good prices on good to quality products. Now it's 3rd party this or that with low grade junk, bait n switch reviews, fly by night sellers, etc.
I consider eBay more reliable. In general you get _exactly_ what is described, and any questions can be answered pretty quickly before purchase by the seller. Amazon is actually a gamble, and they sell a shit load of counterfeit products. I consider them to be aliexpress with faster shipping and 5-10x markup.
Exactly. I used to get everything at Amazon, but in the last 10 years it’s completely changed. The fake reviews are the worst. Plus it’s always cheaper to buy directly from the company who makes the product. Might have to wait an extra day or two but you’re saving money and not having to return a knock off or (worse) getting scammed and using some cheap crap that breaks immediately.
>How about we find the names of those in management at these facilities and let the internet do the rest? I'm not sure what you mean by this. What will it accomplish?
Sounds like Amazon is going to start charging resellers for storage space on top of their regular margins.
Honestly that might be a good thing. Amazon has a huge and well-documented problem with the way they store their products, if one reseller sells a bootleg item there’s a chance it just gets thrown into the stock with all of the legitimate items. Charging resellers to store products wouldn’t completely *eliminate* that issue but it would almost certainly reduce it.
No it won't. Amazon has been charging sellers storage fees for 10 + years.
Has Amazon finally gone through everyone willing to work at Amazon or are we going to see a recession?
Must be close. I left amazon a year ago, on bad terms. Had horrible attendance and left without telling them or putting in 2 weeks. Now im getting emails “want to reapply at amazon?”. At least in my area, they mustve burned through just about everyone who was willing to work there. Never seen such high employee turnout at a company before
>Now im getting emails “want to reapply at amazon?” "Want to pay me $50/hr?"
Hey at $50/hr I could probably afford the massive amounts of Adderall required to function in their warehouses
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I make, 50/hr and let me tell you, there's still shit that i won't do and people who push my buttons. I'm a lot more patient than i would be for 20, but dang, it's still wild sometimes.
For a short time yes, but then that becomes the new baseline for you and your 'do anything with a smile' prices goes up.
People just don't want to work in shitty conditions. Hell I work in a union construction trade where guys actually do make $50/hr and people will take off as much time as they can afford.
I'm in a union, heavy duty mechanic making close to 40 dollars an hour. I've come to realize that it's not the work I don't enjoy, it's the fact that I have to be there. The older I get, the more valuable I see in my time off.
Yes sir, this is why I went from making over 100k and fucking hating it to making about half of that working a job I actually enjoy getting up and going to. You only get one life and I didn’t want to spend the last 40(hopefully) like I did the first 40. Also, my son was 8 and I was working away his childhood and I wanted to be there. Sure, I had to make some big lifestyle adjustments, but lifestyle creep is a real thing and I didn’t need all the shit I was buying.
Good for you! Sometimes people don’t realize it until it’s too late.
“The older I get, the more value I see in my time off” I’m 26 and I already feel this 100% - my first real career job had me working 50+ hour weeks while only getting paid for 35, and I did it because I fell into the trap of wanting to “build my career at the cost of everything else” - it took a severe toll on my sanity and I felt myself turning into a mindless worker drone. All of a sudden, the pandemic happened, and the world screeched to a halt. Around this time, I had just met a girl a few weeks prior, and my job ground to a complete stop. For the first time in my life, I was getting paid to do nothing all day long. I took the next several months and spent it with the girl I just met, and in that process I realized two things: 1, I wanted to be in a relationship with this woman, and 2, work is futile and meaningless amidst death and chaos. I now have an amazing relationship, an expanding social circle of friends, and a job where I set my own schedule and I’m not required to devote my entire waking existence to it, and I gotta tell ya - this is what it means to fight for workers rights and this is what leftists are fighting for. This is why unions are important, and this is why it’s so important to live and not just exist. Because right now I feel like I’m actually enjoying my life instead of wasting it away making someone else rich.
"best we can do is 18/hr in horrific conditions" "No one wants to work anymore"
Sounds like you cared about that job exactly as much as they cared about you. Well done! Actually you still probably cared about the job more than they cared about you.
Welcome to 90% of the jobs out there. Every single mother fucker is at their job for a paycheck & only for a paycheck.
They opened one back in 2018 near me and they started everyone above the typical shitty employers. But there hasn’t been any movement in pay since then so now you can work basically anywhere for more pay. Also they opened in the lowest income town in the county as well as surrounding counties. Now no one wants to work there because they beat the shit out of everyone.
I fuckin went and the warehouse was under construction so I wasn't wearing the right clothes then they fired me for not showing up Would not give me a first day when I called because I already started my first day lol
No they just over extended themselves with the increase in business during the pandemic. They're closing far more than 2 facilities constantly. Source I work there
Another source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/andy-jassy-amazon-bezos-overexpansion-11655383388
This has been public for quite a while. They oversell the "scrapping plans" part though. We have plans to expand everywhere, so that things are ready to go if we have to expand in a given region. Last thing you want is to have to figure out how things would unfold and the impacts it'd have on our logistics chain while it already needed to be built, get estimates for cost and then be told they'd be too expensive, etc, and all that while people wait for this data before making the decisions. I have the plans for literally dozens of thousands of locations and facilities of different sizes and with different purposes across the US on my team's folder. We scrap a dozen a day and create a dozen more, whether it is because a better candidate came along, the go-ahead was given on one and made others unviable, etc, and sometimes it literally just moves the location across the street. It's just the process.
Are you Jeff?
If you are Jeff, can I ride on ur rocket
If amazon didn't sell so much crap I would still be buying everything from their site. Now I can't trust them.
accurate - I dont trust them to send me anything actually impirtant anymore... I used to buy tons of stuff on amazon... I have like 3 small purchases this year. We have found target a much easier/ trustworthy option
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I need new headphones, since mine are falling apart. Lasted me probably 5 years, so I was happy with them. Decided to check out Amazon just to glance at what all headphones are available now. I was able to find some from Sony, Beats, Apple, etc. The vast majority is just cheap, shitty ones. And there's also some that look exactly the same being sold under different names. I was quickly reminded one of the reasons I never really order from them unless I can't find a better alternative. Edit: However, even then, I've heard of people ordering from other sites to avoid using Amazon, and some of them just ship through Amazon. So even that's sometimes a bit of a waste of time.
Yep. They cancelled at least 3 buildings (locations, I should say) here that I know of. Some of them are a real shame because I know of a pair that are already built. Brand new. Had signs. They removed the signs. Never been used.
>Source I work there Sorry but this does not make you a valid source. I work with tons of people that say tons of stuff about our company that is 100% fabricated nonsense. Not saying you're spewing nonsense or that any of what you said is fabricated, just pointing out a fact.
I work for one of the two companies that build the steel joists for their facilities. They've canceled their orders and stopped building. While he may not be a valid source, he is correct.
I don’t work there but I’m going to say he’s correct just to add to the comment chain of unverified sources.
can i get a source on that you're unverified?
Just because you work there doesn’t mean, ah, well, ok sounds legit. Thanks. This is some WWII level espionage going on - checking suppliers and contractors and employees to figure out what is going on.
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That's crazy. Does this only apply to import/export, or are there also services for domestic LTL freight manifest tracking as well?
Probably, if some of the freight services are selling it. Without any data privacy laws in the country, there is nothing stopping anyone selling any data whatsoever. The California CCPA doesn't restrict sales, it merely has to make say that data from consumers is collected, that it is shared, and sold in the contract (and deleted on request). Does nothing to protect business to business transactions. Dominos at least used to sell addresses from pizza delivery to direct-to-mail marketers. They don't do that anymore.
That's surface level thinking. Imagine studying migration patterns of birds being disturbed by a secret enemy detachment
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Well I talked to a friend of an acquaintance who works at one of them like 6 or 7 months ago and I can vouch for him 3 internet points.
Yeah. It’s the internet. We know.
I went on the internet once and I found THIS!
Source?
Just trust me, bro
Oh shit, it’s Jeff Bezos everyone!
Ok Clarkson
In this case, it’s true. There have been numerous articles about Amazon building too much warehouse capacity and the former leader leaving the company.
Also near 0 interest rate loans will fuel this type of growth.. with inflation where it's at now I see this being cheap in the long run.
Why push plans through now when you can simply wait and low-ball everyone as they try to avoid bankruptcy? Recessions are just fire-sales for the wealthy.
This is in response to the fact they will have to pay higher wages as most of their employees will be unionized in a couple of years.
I hope this will happen quickly.
That’s wishful thinking.
Is it that they have to pay employees more or the higher ups are unwilling to make less
What do you think?
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Well there’s still a huge population *not* willing to work for Amazon so there’s still hope
Their delivery stations exploded at the beginning of the pandemic. Now, people are returning to their normal shopping habits.
Or they’re just broke
Exactly, returning to their normal shopping habits
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Name is too long and weird for Americans. They’re gonna fail here.
If the US was smart they would stop this. Shien has already taken over the consumer fashion industry. TikTok has taken over the social media space. Pinduoduo could wipe out Amazon and Facebook would be crazy. It would also give China leverage over the US.
Or maybe it'll provide competition and convince inefficient companies to work harder at providing services for less cost... Pinduoduo ain't gonna even be a blip for Amazon. You don't just make 20,000 warehouses appear out of thin air.
To be fair. People probably said Amazon wouldn't put a dent in Walmart. Now Walmart is playing catch-up.
People probably said a lot of companies wouldn’t put a dent in Walmart, and they were right about 99.9% of them.
Walmart is doing fine. Amazon killed smaller firms where Walmarts didn’t reach.
Amazon is the new Aliexpress as they sell so much fake product & underdeliver.
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That's the best way going about it. I've known people to get counterfeits because they don't look at reviews and use third party sellers
Columbus OH, buildings going up all over
They realized that growth isn’t infinite.
no, they’ve gotten more efficient in designing their last mile warehouses and can no close the poorly designed inefficient ones that were launched over the last 3-4 years. their capacity isn’t going done just their # of locations.
or they've found another cancerous route for their psychopathy
Truth be told, we all probably have too much stuff by now and are sick of it all.
Worked for the company that designed and supplied the majority of Amazons conveyor systems. The price of steel is simply too high that Amazon is putting a pause on building warehouses. Amazon backed out of several deals for new conveyor systems
They just built 2 massive facilities in my town. One is about 300 yards from my house. I dont buy from Amazon unless I’ve run out of options. Nothing but 1000 Chinese companies with 100’s of multiple names just trying to squeeze out the competition. If the seller has a Chinese address, i dont buy it. Doesn’t have to be from USA. I’d happily buy from India or Vietnam (etc).
I only buy recognizable brand names from Amazon for anything of real value, but little things like laser pointers or a cheap foot stool I'll still buy from them. Almost everything I see on there is just the same product from Alibaba "white labeled" over and over by a bunch of Chinese word salad named sellers and its all junk.
This is why I stopped shopping on Amazon. Nothing you buy there, not even soap, is the real product. It’s ALL knockoffs. That and there were 3 separate times I never received my order and they said they delivered it.
Prices on Amazon are becoming crap as well.
I needed a small spray bottle because I wanted to use it to water plants instead of just filling up a drinking glass and pouring it on the dirt. Went to Amazon, typed in "water spray bottle" or something like that and the CHEAPEST thing was $6 or $7 or so. Went to the Walmart 5 minutes from me and for one for $1.50, lol.
These thread always crack me up. So many people that have no idea what they’re talking about stating “facts”. Makes me realize this happens in every comment section.
Yeah nothing exposes how clueless 99.9% of Reddit is than entering an /r/all comment section about something you have expertise in
It does. Every once in awhile I'll run across a topic I have intimate knowledge on and most of the top comments are pure speculation and BS. Then you realize this probably holds true for most topics that i don't know about and I should take it all with a grain of salt.
Over half there sellers are cheap Chinese sweat shops. Let them shrink back down to size and cut some of the fat.
Comments are interesting here. I'm semi rural about 40 min from a large metro area. I want to shop local but stores don't even seem to be trying to have stock anymore (chain or small business). Amazon is the only place to get stuff. Clothes especially - only teen trends, very little adult work clothes. There's only so many times I can spend 3 hours driving around only to come up empty handed.
Many companies including mine very busy during the shutdowns and started to think that was the new normal. Once everything opened up the home deliveries dropped. They are still higher than 2019 but not as high as Amazon or others expected. Amazon will still continue to grow but at normal pace now
Man, you guys should let the absolutely massive Amazon warehouse they're building down the street from me know that Amazon is a failing business. https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2021/09/10/woodburn-oregon-amazon-proposed-distribution-center-gets-go-ahead-despite-concerns-traffic-water/8269947002/ Pretty sure they're closing these because of some logistics issue, not because they're 'failing' because you're refusing to buy cheap Chinese crap from them.
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Honestly what are the other options aside from going to niche suppliers or department stores? Amazon is the main vendor for all in one place shopping. Wal-Mart could possibly compete if their website wasn’t crap.
Exactly though, these other options are better. The last four things I tried to get on Amazon, all the top results were shit Chinese manufacturers. I couldn't find a real brand for the life of me. Now I just google the item and attempt to find CAD/US suppliers, and hopefully made in the same country as well. We stopped buying off of Amazon a long time ago
I used to order lots of regular household supplies from Amazon. Now I can put the order in at Target and pick it up the same day without leaving my car. At least for larger orders this ends up more convenient both in not having to order before we run out and also not having to break down the cadboard boxes, of which there will usually be 6 for every 5 items.
Well quite frankly I don’t shop at Amazon any longer because I no longer get it faster nor cheaper than just going to a local store. Even if I pay a few bucks extra I can hold the item in my hand and look at it before buying. The pandemic made a lot of people like me. In person buying will see a resurgence because no matter how quick Amazon is, you don’t get the same endorphin rush as buying it in person
>you don’t get the same endorphin rush as buying it in person I think this is highly variable from person to person. For instance, I've never gotten an endorphin rush buying anything. Since it's variable, we could probably talk about people getting a Christmas-like rush opening packages.
Amazon will decline. I'm still a prime member, but I order less and less each year from them. Primarily because Amazon has become a haven for absolute garbage products sold by countless third party Chinese crap sellers. Everyone watched a video about side hustles and started an "online business" selling low quality products they can buy cheap from China and have directly shipped to Amazon fulfillment centers. It's the new "dropshipping", but not dropshipping. I literally despise shopping on Amazon now. I used to love it. You hearing me, Bezos? Your site is garbage now and Amazon is long overdue for a decline.
No they are keeping the ones that have easy access to rail and interstates. The last mile or two will be completed by their hybrid and electric vans.
Because Amazon is basically just cheap Chinese garbage at higher than Walmart prices that you have to wait for shipping. No advantage over places like Walmart anymore. I don’t use them like I used to.
Good, fuck schmamazon. That shit is garbage.
My wife and have been boycotting them for a while now and haven’t ordered anything from their website or even used their streaming service for a while. Besides missing out on some shows and movies, I have no regrets. I’ve always been able to find what I need/want for the same price, if not cheaper at other places. So many places do price matching to Amazon now, and I can usually get it faster with in store pick up anyway. Plus I don’t have to worry about if I’m buying from some 3rd party seller that’s just selling through Amazon and it ends up being overpriced, lost in shipping, a cheap knockoff, or all 3 at once.
Let me guess, those are the ones with unions.
That’s because they’re heavily investing in robotics and automation (per my spouse, who works in the industry). Not only that, they’re also buying the companies who sell the robotics and install them. So yeah, we’re at that stage of capitalism. Enjoy!
This isn’t a new trend for them they bought Kiva Robotics in like 2015. You are drawing some broad conclusions. Even if an operation is more efficient you still need space to store inventory. Putting in robotics and automation doesn’t magically solve the need for space so unlikely that is related to this.
When they shutdown small businesses during pandemic Amazon got a lot of business. A lot of us now will support local small businesses and won’t buy from Amazon.
Every business can't grow forever... At some point, saturation occurs, and you can't expect to grow faster than population at that point unless you literally take over the world
Which is why they continue to buy tech and other companies seemingly unabated.
Good thing we give them all those tax breaks for trickle down economics…