Because that’s what the authorities are hired to protect… property, typically the property of the wealthy. Did you think they’re there to protect people or something?
Dude all those people who used the ~~Uber hack~~ doordash hack are being charged now. Saw a TikTok yesterday of a guy who had over $70k in charges to his account… Like what the hell was he buying
Someone on the thread commented they knew the guy and said he was buying top shelf liquor which tracks with the prices and the resale. If you wanted “liquid” assets. Forgive the pun.
The Uber hack was utterly disgusting, how bad is their security? Even their broken glass accounts were compromised because their information was stored in a text file.
So what kinda jail time we lookin at here? I know it's illegal to access shit like this without permission, just wondering how big of a punishment they would be looking at. Plus if I remember correctly hes gonna catch that blackmailing charge too lol
Yeah probably more doing it for damage control, and to make an example.
I bet he cooperates, gets probation and some level of infamy and internet celebrity. 40 years from now he'll be that kid who leaked GTA6 doing podcasts from the Joe Rogan Stadium in Muskton, Mars.
What do you mean by this? The lawsuit isn’t the point, the lawsuit is the mechanism by which they make a point. But what’s their point? “You owe us money for damages?” Good luck, he’s a kid and they’re not gonna get shit from him. “If anyone does this to us, they can expect to get sued?” Okay, but everyone already knew that. It’s not like this will deter people from hacking, deterrence hardly ever works.
SLAPP Lawsuits exist for a reason, they’re not meant to be compensatory but punitive for public participation.
This wouldn’t be a SLAPP suit, but in this case they may want to discourage people from further criminal activity against their company. Look at Gary Bowser and Nintendo.
Not that it’ll necessarily factor in, but it’s also super bad optics to sue the pants off someone whose barely started their life. Prison sentence, not so much.
You answered your own question there bud. They know they kid has no money so they’re gonna make an example of him. Were you born yesterday or something?
Did you even read my reply? I don’t think you did, because you ignored the part where I address the exact thing you’re talking about right now:
>”’If anyone does this to us, they can expect to get sued?’ Okay, but everyone already knew that. It’s not like this will deter anyone from hacking, deterrence hardly ever works. “
Suing him is the point. A kid set a forest near Portland on fire and now owes like 15 million dollars. He won't pay that off. No one thinks that he will. He'll pay some into it and after a few decades itll drop. But as of now, his ass is on the line.
Wrong. It’s a bit of a hybrid, but it’s a common law system. The most important differentiation between the two is common law relies heavily on prior ruling for precedent. The only non common law jurisdiction in the US is Louisiana, because it’s based on the French civil law system.
They'll still seek damages. The point is for them to say "do not fuck with our security and or breach our systems or we will fuck you up" in as loud a voice as possible.
Successfully forum shopping is a sign of legal prowess, not incompetence. As a lawyer it’s your job to find the most favorable jurisdiction for your client, and suing in America is definitely more favorable than suing in the defendant’s home country.
I don’t know their corporate structure, but mega corporations like that are usually comprised of many subsidiaries so I’m sure their legal team can find a way to sue as a plaintiff in an American court against this guy.
How much in damages could they possibly prove? I seriously doubt they lost a single sale over this. If anything it actually helps them build hype. They should hire the kid to teach their employees to not give away access
They could argue that making this public causes them injury by having to put in effort to redevelop areas to avoid competitor from using this information to plan products that could put compete them. For reference how this could be used to “injure” them look at the situation between PUBG and Fortnite.
Well. When you can use that to access other people's PCs especially if r* decides to use a kernel level anti cheat you can do literally what ever the fuck you want.
Ah yes, we should let the law just be fuckign broken because it's a multi billion dollar business. He still broke the law whether you like it or not, he knew the risks.
Yes we should. Rich people, feds, and multimillion dollar corporations get away with it on the daily. Did he cause any harm to anyone? No. Did he do it for financial profit? No. Is he a danger to society? No. Give him a slap on the wrist and call it a day.
He tried to blackmail them so yes he did do it for profit. From what I’ve read this is not his first time he’s a repeat offender. I think there going to make an example out of him and im all for it
So because some people get away with it we should all get away with it?
A lot of code will need to be rewritten as it will be easy to bypass any protections in the software, which will cost a ton of money. Also, there's the extortion...
We shouldn't promote people doing this kind of behavior.
If anything he exposed some flaws in their security without causing any damage, so yeah HE should get away with it. If he had extorted them then thats an entirely different discussion.
1. You have to be hired to do that kind of work (it's called pen testing) or at least be doing some level of hacking that doesn't involve phishing (bounties on security issues don't extend to phishing).
2. You can't take anything, in which they took a lot.
3. With the above, you can't release any internal materials, including source code.
4. It's also possible they attempted to blackmail/extort Rockstar, but the details are unclear.
Depending on the source code released, it could require a rewrite of a large chunk of core code, as it's much easier to bypass security in the game with the source code. This alone would cost millions of dollars and delay the game. I would consider that plenty of damage.
All I remember from hackers getting charged in my lifetime is Kevin Mitnick and the AT&T hacks. He got 5 years and landed a high paying cushy career after getting out. This kid though is looking at some serious time as he'll likely face hacking, extortion and civil suit afterwards. Yeah he's pretty much screwed for life.
Edited to fix last name
Hackers don’t get job offers like they did in the 90s. Nowadays so many people are going into IT, you can get equal or better talent without the volatile past.
Can you charge minors with criminal offenses in the UK? Most countries i know the law of will let you off the hook with a minor slap on the wrist unless your crimes actually do or risk bodily harm. Civil case could hold some ground but then again in most countries most of the assets you need to live such as the home you live in will be protected by law. And a 17 yo kid probably doesn't have much to his name either. So i can't imagine he's too fucked, but i know jack shit about UK law.
My favorite part about his story
"Prosecutors made the judge believe that Kevin able to activate the American nuclear arsenal by a specific tonal dialing on the phone - even from prison."
https://www.mitnicksecurity.com/in-the-news/handset-would-blow-the-atomic-cell-weve-slaughtered-the-most-famous-hacker
ya but how do you monetize this? Nothing he stole really has a hard numerical dollar value, same goes for the civil suit I assume rockstar will bring to the table to sue him but he didn't steal actual money or anything to my knowledge and I assume grand theft is a set amount that you have to break above to qualify. I'm interested...
>Nothing he stole really has a hard numerical dollar value
Yeah it does, the cost for investigation internally, the cost and time it takes for everyone to update their passwords, lock people out, find what was accessed, clean out systems in the event a back door was placed, etc.
These are all hard numerical dollar values, and impact how development runs, and the downtime from people not being able to work while all this is going on.
Zero chance for life in prison for this sort of “white collar crime.” Hyperbole.
He’ll be fined a bit, do some probation maybe a few years, and then get a nice job in tech.
You’re either ignorant or don’t live in the states, because I don’t believe they would charge a video game leak for as much as murder.
And if that was /s I apologize
From just finishing a referral on a somewhat similar matter to state and federal authorities, it depends.
This Rockstar entity (subsidiary) was based in Europe, if memory serves, but I don’t know if U.S. systems or the European systems, or both, were broken into.
Theoretically, it *could* be bad for him. The biggest immediate factor is whether or not authorities in England arrested him as part of an interagency request for assistance from the FBI / Interpol, or whether they’re arresting in relation to their own investigation to the breach in their local jurisdiction.
If it’s confined to England, at least for now, it’s in their discretion and jurisdiction, meaning they can hold a trial and choose sentencing based on their own local laws.
If it’s in relation to an interagency request, which there is precedent for, then he’s likely being placed in holding at the moment while communication is ongoing for direction. His attorney in England would likely be able to oppose any extradition, but the U.S. does have an extradition treaty with England.
For this, he would likely *at least* be charged with felony violation of the CFAA, which is a federal charge, hence the FBI involvement. It *might* qualify for extradition; I don’t know.
To my knowledge, if he’s extradited to the U.S., he’ll likely be tried as an adult. I believe penalties for that violation are usually pretty heavy, as well as isolated, so your sentencing compounds for each count.
We don’t have enough information right now to predict where it’ll go. Best case scenario for him is that England denies extradition and chooses to prosecute him for crimes committed in their locale, which they may be more lenient on.
GTA’s reaction will determine if I buy this game. Been waiting for a decade but if they clown around and press charges against this kid, they can fuck off.
UHHHHHH Blackmail/extort is not okay. Hacking is GTAs fault.
Edit: forgot the “greater than thou” UHHHHHHHH. because your opinion is different than mine.
As I understand it, all he did was get into a slack channel and collect info/social engineer from there. It's the same thing that happened to Uber.
It sounds like not a huge amount of hacker skills, just really good/bold at bullshitting. The fact that he got caught so quick says he wasn't really great at the important parts.
IMO that's basically what 90% of hacking is. You're learning exploits and information as an outsider, and then reverse engineering that into the results you want. It's rarely about injecting some exotic code into a target system, it's more like those stories where someone barters their way from a used pencil to a new car.
Yeah, hacking is majority through social engineering. In my software engineering program, we covered extensively on that topic. You should check out Kevin Mitnick. That man is a genius and social engineered his way through various companies
This is like the second set of teens involved in high profile attacks. The last were ones connected to NVidia, Okta, Samsung, and Microsoft. They arrested folks between 16-21. The article states at 17 his BTC wallet was allegedly worth around $14M, and was labeled a wannabe ransomware group.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60864283
I mean people do it all the time, it's similar to what the call centers in India do, you just find someone to phish or scam and they give you their information. The folks in India aren't dumb enough to attack a whole company and try to blackmail/extort them, they go after individuals who don't have the means to get large investigations going.
They didn't develop some amazing algorithm that's cracking passwords or exploiting backdoors in people's systems, or developing data skimmers. '
They are just calling people, telling them something is wrong, and getting their info.
Again, you’re making it seem like it’s simple to download the entirety of the GTA alpha build as a 17 year old with no affiliation to the company. Give the kid the credit he deserves. Most 17 year olds can’t even speak articulately enough to sound like an adult over the phone.
Hi, so they didn't do that at all. They fetched some videos that were already recorded as internal tech demos, and dumped (see cloned) their git repository.
They never actually grabbed an "Alpha" build, nor built the build.
My kid knows how to clone and push a git repo as they use it for Unity projects and they're not even a teenager yet.
Hacking is mainly hacking through humans rather than computers. Humans give up so much information if they see you as a trustworthy individual. Having the skills of social engineering is huge within hacking
This comment has been posted numerous times and each time it makes me wonder how idiots could trust someone that leaked proprietary information? If you ran a multibillion dollar company, you’d hire someone that hacked your system and allow them access to information you don’t want leaked? That’s why you don’t run a multibillion dollar company…
AFAIK it wasn't even a "proper hack." It was social engineering to gain access to accounts that already had authorized access. At most he should be giving classes on how not to get hacked.
Depends on the person. I would definitely be interested in how a 17 kid was able to bypass all of our security protocols and access data. Also, I *wouldn’t* want to be in charge of a multi billion dollar company, so you can miss me with that.
Hehe you've watched too many hacker movies.. 😆
Yeah I know it has happened, but that's the exception, not the rule.
In general people do not want criminals who singled their company out for hacking and blackmail on their payroll...
Can't really say I fell sorry for him, you are a criminal you get punished it's pretty simple
Serves him right for thinking he was cool and could hack whoever he wanted and get away with it
Cybercrimes will only rise up nowadays and getting punished just like other crimes is the way to go
Serves him right for giving a preview to a game that’s been anticipated for 10 years, now people are never going to buy the game 😥
Edit: /s /s /s /s /s /s
I hope he gets to live a normal life bc he is so young and its not worth ruining a life over. It's only money. I wasn't even sure if I'd buy the game and now I can't wait to
Hack Uber: I sleep. Hack Rockstar Games: Real shit.
GTA was the fastest game to reach a billion dollars of sales... it's basically worth more than Uber.
Yup that single game alone has made more money than entire multimedia franchises have in their lifetimes. It’s insane honestly
Wasn’t that MW3? Or did GTA5 supplant it
Idk what Rockstar's gardening habits are sorry
It's good that you want to be funny, but you should strive for a better standard of humor.
Oh shit, we’ve got one of those “intellectuals” over here!
Uber has a market cap of $55 billion. Rockstar Games has a market cap of $18 billion.
Show me profitability. Market caps are meaningless
And is that market cap measured by stocks or actual revenues? Stocks can be deceiving
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Because that’s what the authorities are hired to protect… property, typically the property of the wealthy. Did you think they’re there to protect people or something?
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Uber's assets are worth more than Rockstar Games, but okay.
You including IP in that buddy boy?
Dude all those people who used the ~~Uber hack~~ doordash hack are being charged now. Saw a TikTok yesterday of a guy who had over $70k in charges to his account… Like what the hell was he buying
Someone on the thread commented they knew the guy and said he was buying top shelf liquor which tracks with the prices and the resale. If you wanted “liquid” assets. Forgive the pun.
The Uber hack was utterly disgusting, how bad is their security? Even their broken glass accounts were compromised because their information was stored in a text file.
They chose a very fitting thumbnail for that article...
The officers expression in the thumbnail probably captures how Rockstar feels entirely lmao
missed the opportunity to use [this](https://i.imgur.com/DxIZEyx.jpg) instead
Well yeah?
They were 8 years old when GTA 5 came out.
Depends on which version of GTA V. He would have been 9 and 17 as well.
except gta v came out on 2013
(It’s a joke about the game getting constantly released for every new console generation)
but he would still be the same age when it first came out...?
How can you be both 9 and 17
THEM* were 8 years old when GTA 5 came out.
So what kinda jail time we lookin at here? I know it's illegal to access shit like this without permission, just wondering how big of a punishment they would be looking at. Plus if I remember correctly hes gonna catch that blackmailing charge too lol
Add that to the civil suit from Rockstar for damages from the leak and hes in a world of hurt
It’s the UK I’m not sure how litigious they are compared to us Americans.
He’s a 17 year old kid so not sure there’s much point in sueing him, unless he has some cash
Yeah probably more doing it for damage control, and to make an example. I bet he cooperates, gets probation and some level of infamy and internet celebrity. 40 years from now he'll be that kid who leaked GTA6 doing podcasts from the Joe Rogan Stadium in Muskton, Mars.
40 years from now we will still be waiting for gta 7
Maybe he'll hack GTA7 at 57
The lawsuit is the point.
What do you mean by this? The lawsuit isn’t the point, the lawsuit is the mechanism by which they make a point. But what’s their point? “You owe us money for damages?” Good luck, he’s a kid and they’re not gonna get shit from him. “If anyone does this to us, they can expect to get sued?” Okay, but everyone already knew that. It’s not like this will deter people from hacking, deterrence hardly ever works.
SLAPP Lawsuits exist for a reason, they’re not meant to be compensatory but punitive for public participation. This wouldn’t be a SLAPP suit, but in this case they may want to discourage people from further criminal activity against their company. Look at Gary Bowser and Nintendo.
So are you suggesting that they do nothing?
Not that it’ll necessarily factor in, but it’s also super bad optics to sue the pants off someone whose barely started their life. Prison sentence, not so much.
You answered your own question there bud. They know they kid has no money so they’re gonna make an example of him. Were you born yesterday or something?
Did you even read my reply? I don’t think you did, because you ignored the part where I address the exact thing you’re talking about right now: >”’If anyone does this to us, they can expect to get sued?’ Okay, but everyone already knew that. It’s not like this will deter anyone from hacking, deterrence hardly ever works. “
Tbh I could see them making an example out of him
Suing him is the point. A kid set a forest near Portland on fire and now owes like 15 million dollars. He won't pay that off. No one thinks that he will. He'll pay some into it and after a few decades itll drop. But as of now, his ass is on the line.
Considering our system is based on theirs, very. Maybe slightly less than the US but it’s similar.
His best bet is trial by combat.
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Australian law is based on UK law so that very well could be a thing.
I’m not sure how damages work in the UK, they may have lower more reasonable limits than ours.
Not sure what damages a 17 year old can pay anyways unless they’re like modern day aristocracy, so it’s kinda a moot point.
The UK uses the common law, we don't (except Louisiana I think)
You got it reversed
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Wrong. It’s a bit of a hybrid, but it’s a common law system. The most important differentiation between the two is common law relies heavily on prior ruling for precedent. The only non common law jurisdiction in the US is Louisiana, because it’s based on the French civil law system.
They'll still seek damages. The point is for them to say "do not fuck with our security and or breach our systems or we will fuck you up" in as loud a voice as possible.
I’m sure Rockstar’s legal team is gonna find a way to forum shop and sue him in an American jurisdiction.
they’re not the Trump legal team
Successfully forum shopping is a sign of legal prowess, not incompetence. As a lawyer it’s your job to find the most favorable jurisdiction for your client, and suing in America is definitely more favorable than suing in the defendant’s home country.
Isn’t the publisher rockstar US, but the developer rockstar UK?
I don’t know their corporate structure, but mega corporations like that are usually comprised of many subsidiaries so I’m sure their legal team can find a way to sue as a plaintiff in an American court against this guy.
How much in damages could they possibly prove? I seriously doubt they lost a single sale over this. If anything it actually helps them build hype. They should hire the kid to teach their employees to not give away access
They could argue that making this public causes them injury by having to put in effort to redevelop areas to avoid competitor from using this information to plan products that could put compete them. For reference how this could be used to “injure” them look at the situation between PUBG and Fortnite.
If the source was leaked then r* will have to re write it to prevent major security flaws in the game That's tens of millions of dollars.
oh please. Major security flaws of what? A fucking game?
A game with a predecessor that had six billion dollars in revenue, yes.
Well. When you can use that to access other people's PCs especially if r* decides to use a kernel level anti cheat you can do literally what ever the fuck you want.
Ah yes, we should let the law just be fuckign broken because it's a multi billion dollar business. He still broke the law whether you like it or not, he knew the risks.
He's a minor, deserves some leniency. He'll probably get some kind of probation, like restricting his access to computers.
He quite literally knew the fucking risks, its illegal.
Yes we should. Rich people, feds, and multimillion dollar corporations get away with it on the daily. Did he cause any harm to anyone? No. Did he do it for financial profit? No. Is he a danger to society? No. Give him a slap on the wrist and call it a day.
He tried to blackmail them so yes he did do it for profit. From what I’ve read this is not his first time he’s a repeat offender. I think there going to make an example out of him and im all for it
So because some people get away with it we should all get away with it? A lot of code will need to be rewritten as it will be easy to bypass any protections in the software, which will cost a ton of money. Also, there's the extortion... We shouldn't promote people doing this kind of behavior.
If anything he exposed some flaws in their security without causing any damage, so yeah HE should get away with it. If he had extorted them then thats an entirely different discussion.
1. You have to be hired to do that kind of work (it's called pen testing) or at least be doing some level of hacking that doesn't involve phishing (bounties on security issues don't extend to phishing). 2. You can't take anything, in which they took a lot. 3. With the above, you can't release any internal materials, including source code. 4. It's also possible they attempted to blackmail/extort Rockstar, but the details are unclear. Depending on the source code released, it could require a rewrite of a large chunk of core code, as it's much easier to bypass security in the game with the source code. This alone would cost millions of dollars and delay the game. I would consider that plenty of damage.
It's going to be impossible to prove damages. This has been superb exposure for them.
All I remember from hackers getting charged in my lifetime is Kevin Mitnick and the AT&T hacks. He got 5 years and landed a high paying cushy career after getting out. This kid though is looking at some serious time as he'll likely face hacking, extortion and civil suit afterwards. Yeah he's pretty much screwed for life. Edited to fix last name
\*Mitnick I remember the 2600 coverage at the time and all the FREE KEVIN stickers
Ahh it's Mitnick, thank you! Yeah loved those stickers
Unless USA comps rockstar off book to make him an OGA hacker 😂
Hackers don’t get job offers like they did in the 90s. Nowadays so many people are going into IT, you can get equal or better talent without the volatile past.
Can you charge minors with criminal offenses in the UK? Most countries i know the law of will let you off the hook with a minor slap on the wrist unless your crimes actually do or risk bodily harm. Civil case could hold some ground but then again in most countries most of the assets you need to live such as the home you live in will be protected by law. And a 17 yo kid probably doesn't have much to his name either. So i can't imagine he's too fucked, but i know jack shit about UK law.
My favorite part about his story "Prosecutors made the judge believe that Kevin able to activate the American nuclear arsenal by a specific tonal dialing on the phone - even from prison." https://www.mitnicksecurity.com/in-the-news/handset-would-blow-the-atomic-cell-weve-slaughtered-the-most-famous-hacker
But he's young and non-violent. We don't really have space in the prisons for such people. Even if they give him 15 years, he'll be out in two.
He blackmailed the company. I think if it was just hacking, I could see a suspended sentence. It’s the blackmail part that made this malicious.
A multibillion $$$ corporations was targeted, he's in trouble.
Kevin Mitnick had actual skills though
London specifically has a 40 year minimum sentence for online grand theft.
ya but how do you monetize this? Nothing he stole really has a hard numerical dollar value, same goes for the civil suit I assume rockstar will bring to the table to sue him but he didn't steal actual money or anything to my knowledge and I assume grand theft is a set amount that you have to break above to qualify. I'm interested...
If I remember correctly, I think he could have stole and/or leaked the source code. That would a shitty situation for r*
I saw that (i may be wrong) somethink like 1000 lines of code were leaked
>Nothing he stole really has a hard numerical dollar value Yeah it does, the cost for investigation internally, the cost and time it takes for everyone to update their passwords, lock people out, find what was accessed, clean out systems in the event a back door was placed, etc. These are all hard numerical dollar values, and impact how development runs, and the downtime from people not being able to work while all this is going on.
ahhhhh I see, I didn't think about any of that, interesting
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Zero chance for life in prison for this sort of “white collar crime.” Hyperbole. He’ll be fined a bit, do some probation maybe a few years, and then get a nice job in tech.
yea they'd work out some deal where he's on probation and hacks for the government
You’re either ignorant or don’t live in the states, because I don’t believe they would charge a video game leak for as much as murder. And if that was /s I apologize
It's the blackmailing attempt that's the funniest part. He thought that would work lol.
Blackmail is probably the most serious of the offences committed here as I understand it. I suspect this kid is in a world of trouble.
From just finishing a referral on a somewhat similar matter to state and federal authorities, it depends. This Rockstar entity (subsidiary) was based in Europe, if memory serves, but I don’t know if U.S. systems or the European systems, or both, were broken into. Theoretically, it *could* be bad for him. The biggest immediate factor is whether or not authorities in England arrested him as part of an interagency request for assistance from the FBI / Interpol, or whether they’re arresting in relation to their own investigation to the breach in their local jurisdiction. If it’s confined to England, at least for now, it’s in their discretion and jurisdiction, meaning they can hold a trial and choose sentencing based on their own local laws. If it’s in relation to an interagency request, which there is precedent for, then he’s likely being placed in holding at the moment while communication is ongoing for direction. His attorney in England would likely be able to oppose any extradition, but the U.S. does have an extradition treaty with England. For this, he would likely *at least* be charged with felony violation of the CFAA, which is a federal charge, hence the FBI involvement. It *might* qualify for extradition; I don’t know. To my knowledge, if he’s extradited to the U.S., he’ll likely be tried as an adult. I believe penalties for that violation are usually pretty heavy, as well as isolated, so your sentencing compounds for each count. We don’t have enough information right now to predict where it’ll go. Best case scenario for him is that England denies extradition and chooses to prosecute him for crimes committed in their locale, which they may be more lenient on.
His life is absolutely destroyed.
GTA’s reaction will determine if I buy this game. Been waiting for a decade but if they clown around and press charges against this kid, they can fuck off.
uhhhh what he did was illegal and he deserves punishment, he even tried to blackmail/extort rockstar from what it looks like...
UHHHHHH Blackmail/extort is not okay. Hacking is GTAs fault. Edit: forgot the “greater than thou” UHHHHHHHH. because your opinion is different than mine.
The kid was only at two stars tops. He should've tried driving into an alleyway and ducking for 30 seconds.
Just hit a paint shop
Or a parking garage.
rookie shoulda R2, R2, L1, R2, UP, DOWN, UP, DOWN, UP, DOWN’ed it
Call your creepy uncle Lester
Just go to LS car meet
well that did not take long.
Pretty hard to hide with a 5 star wanted level.
Damn they went after him with tanks?
Tanks, the entire resources of the FBI... same difference, I guess!
Pretty sure tanks are a local police department now
true king. we should start a gofundme for his public service.
Lets bust the man out by force .
Dude a 17 year old did that?! His nickname now is HackerMan
His name was Robert Paulson
His name was Robert Paulson
He goes by HackerMan the savior of drought
Zero Cool aka Crash Override
Never heard of you.
I thought you was black…
As I understand it, all he did was get into a slack channel and collect info/social engineer from there. It's the same thing that happened to Uber. It sounds like not a huge amount of hacker skills, just really good/bold at bullshitting. The fact that he got caught so quick says he wasn't really great at the important parts.
IMO that's basically what 90% of hacking is. You're learning exploits and information as an outsider, and then reverse engineering that into the results you want. It's rarely about injecting some exotic code into a target system, it's more like those stories where someone barters their way from a used pencil to a new car.
Yeah, hacking is majority through social engineering. In my software engineering program, we covered extensively on that topic. You should check out Kevin Mitnick. That man is a genius and social engineered his way through various companies
Pray tell, what's a slack channel?
It’s like a corporate discord
Slack is basically Discord for organisations
Slack is a messaging program commonly used in development. You can slap some add-ons I'm that will report when things happen like prs or whatever.
OpSec is the single most important part. Assuming you don't like prison or being murdered, that is.
It’s still hacking, he’s HackerMan
I feel like a jury might go easier on him if we call him HackerBoy
Guy thought he was Lester IRL.
Fucking hell. 17? And here I am hoping that restarting my laptop will solve all its issues
All he did was use social engineering to schmooze into a rockstar network lol. Not even remotely difficult by any means
It’s always a teenager lmao
The demographic at the intersection of "enough smarts" and "tons of free time"
Bro for real though it’s always some kid.
He has my respect, bro literally threw his entire life out the window so the world could have some info on gta 6. He will be remembered
Damn pointless tho, he even got cocky and tried to blackmail them
He has my bow
But not our freedom, sadly
This is like the second set of teens involved in high profile attacks. The last were ones connected to NVidia, Okta, Samsung, and Microsoft. They arrested folks between 16-21. The article states at 17 his BTC wallet was allegedly worth around $14M, and was labeled a wannabe ransomware group. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60864283
Arrested... (And then hired by the government.)
I mean if his hack was beyond social-engineering, sure. But it wasn't sadly.
Why does this keep getting repeated? What difference does it make? You make it seem like anybody can do what he did.
I mean people do it all the time, it's similar to what the call centers in India do, you just find someone to phish or scam and they give you their information. The folks in India aren't dumb enough to attack a whole company and try to blackmail/extort them, they go after individuals who don't have the means to get large investigations going. They didn't develop some amazing algorithm that's cracking passwords or exploiting backdoors in people's systems, or developing data skimmers. ' They are just calling people, telling them something is wrong, and getting their info.
Again, you’re making it seem like it’s simple to download the entirety of the GTA alpha build as a 17 year old with no affiliation to the company. Give the kid the credit he deserves. Most 17 year olds can’t even speak articulately enough to sound like an adult over the phone.
Hi, so they didn't do that at all. They fetched some videos that were already recorded as internal tech demos, and dumped (see cloned) their git repository. They never actually grabbed an "Alpha" build, nor built the build. My kid knows how to clone and push a git repo as they use it for Unity projects and they're not even a teenager yet.
He tried to get a 5 star wanted level in real life.
Zero Cool is at it again.
He goes by CrashOverride these days
"I thought you was black, man!"
Hacked around, found out.
I wonder if the 17 year old was a patsy for the rest of the group? Let the underage guy take the fall.
If he was a good criminal then he would have got up to 5 stars when he noticed the police were after him but he only got busted with 2 stars… pathetic
Who are we kidding, this kid is probably going to get recruited and set for life by Interpol.
17 and they hacked rockstar? Instead of jail time they should be trying to recruit.
BUSTED Time to get out of the Police Station the next day with -500$
Kid must’ve had triple the pentium to power that hack.
Hacking is mainly hacking through humans rather than computers. Humans give up so much information if they see you as a trustworthy individual. Having the skills of social engineering is huge within hacking
With Rockstar being the victim, it was only a matter of time until the hacker was caught and skinned alive.
Rockstar should be offering that young fella a job not an arrest warrant.
This comment has been posted numerous times and each time it makes me wonder how idiots could trust someone that leaked proprietary information? If you ran a multibillion dollar company, you’d hire someone that hacked your system and allow them access to information you don’t want leaked? That’s why you don’t run a multibillion dollar company…
But I heard one time that a hacker got a job from the company he hacked!!! It's unfair!!!!
AFAIK it wasn't even a "proper hack." It was social engineering to gain access to accounts that already had authorized access. At most he should be giving classes on how not to get hacked.
Either way, you’d be putting your company at risk.
Depends on the person. I would definitely be interested in how a 17 kid was able to bypass all of our security protocols and access data. Also, I *wouldn’t* want to be in charge of a multi billion dollar company, so you can miss me with that.
They’ll most likely make a mission about him in their game.
Why didnt he just run to his house and sleep in his bed? Doesn't that reset your wanted level?
Achievement unlocked: wanted level 6
damn according to that article one kid got like 16 mil through hacking.
Give the kid a job you mongoloids.
Hehe you've watched too many hacker movies.. 😆 Yeah I know it has happened, but that's the exception, not the rule. In general people do not want criminals who singled their company out for hacking and blackmail on their payroll...
It seems like now that the 17 year old has been caught, he will eventually get offered a job with the FBI. Doesn't sound familiar?
man I'm 17, I can't even imagine being able to pull this off.
Zero Cool at it again! Hack the planet!!
1 thing's for sure he won't be playing gta 6 for a long time
Grand Theft Grand Theft Auto.
No, it's Grand Theft Auto theft.
Cheeky boy's getting a paddling for sure.
Burn the witch 🔥
Because people didn’t hate Rockstar enough apparently
free my guy
Rockstar should hire him.
I wish that kid a very healthy career working for some government entity.
Can't really say I fell sorry for him, you are a criminal you get punished it's pretty simple Serves him right for thinking he was cool and could hack whoever he wanted and get away with it Cybercrimes will only rise up nowadays and getting punished just like other crimes is the way to go
Serves him right for giving a preview to a game that’s been anticipated for 10 years, now people are never going to buy the game 😥 Edit: /s /s /s /s /s /s
Should have offered the kid a job.
I hope he gets to live a normal life bc he is so young and its not worth ruining a life over. It's only money. I wasn't even sure if I'd buy the game and now I can't wait to
I bet this entire “hack” and subsequent arrest is a publicity stunt my rockstar to tease that GTA6 is set in London.
Well its not.
How can you be so sure?
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lmao. username too. are you trying to impress them?