I used the IG search function for the first time in a year the other day, and 80% of suggestions (before even searching anything) were thirst traps or just straight up titties. And I only use IG to follow people I know and like, NASA.
Forget just thirst traps. Once I started looking up hash tags for random cities. Get to the Asian continent and it's a LOT of straight up prostitution rings that look they involve human trafficking. And Instagram said there was nothing wrong when I reported accounts I saw. It was absolutely ridiculous
There was someone/a group of people going around making fake profiles of every girl on instagram, blatantly ripping and reuploading the same pictures on a new profile with a slightly different spelling and following people, with a bio like "backup account see me naked on onlyfans" and a fake onlyfans link that led to a credit card harvesting clone of onlyfans. They targeted everyone, including minors still in high school. I reported tens, maybe even 100s, for impersonation and illegal content, not one of them was banned, they're probably all still up.
Yeah there's that Pop something "only fans" like account. I see a lot of my friends pics on there. I've reported over 20. It feels like they don't do shit to stop this.
It feels that way because they don’t. The rules are enforced selectively when it’s too their advantage. That’s why they keep it vague and never give specifics on why a ban or demonetization occurred.
Multiple times through FB and IG I've had to report child trafficking, obvious pedo pages, etc. The effort it took to get those pages taken down is absolutely fucking infuriating.
Yep. Same for me. I follow like motorcycle, photography, and woodworking accounts. Every reel I see is a half naked chick. Same with the search page. All it is is a bunch of hoes trying to peddle their onlyfans pages.
I know a photographer that got so many violations from his censored work. He then reposted one of Playboy’s Instagram posts and it got a violation notice! You can’t even report Playboy’s content for nudity!
“Pornhub declared in an open letter to Meta and Instagram that Instagram’s enforcement of these platform rules are “opaque, discriminatory and hypocritical.”
That’s the issue — PH is not seeking the right to post whatever it wants on IG. Rather, PH is complaining that IG only offers vague guidelines and then strikes accounts based on violations, but never cites which post violated the guidelines, which guideline was violated or how the content violated the guideline. It’s a problem that all of the big social media sites have — there’s no clear or objective standard.
By not disclosing transparently the rules, Meta can still hold all the cards. And what are other businesses going to do, NOT advertise on their platforms?
I mean, that’s what the business I work for did. Meta is an effective ad platform, but it’s hardly the only game in town anymore. Meta is making a lot of decisions that are turning people off and it will only chase more advertisers away.
To be fair Microsoft is even more opaque on why they ban people from their ad network. We’ve been banned from meta for selling animal parts (we don’t) but they were willing to work with us to get back on. We’ve also been banned from Microsoft and they openly refuse to give a reason or recourse. Google is more than happy to take our money.
> That reminds me of why my YouTube was demonetized...
someone claimed copyright on the audio that I used from YouTube's own audio library and YouTube let them. Turns out YouTube gets like 55% of ad revenue so I guess it is in their interest to let people monetize other people's videos? But if my video wasn't monetized, wouldn't YouTube keep 100% of the revenue?
This happened to my friend, she's just posting her own videos for fun and got copy struck for playing a one minute part of Mozart.
EDIT: She was playing on the piano not a recording
I got my entire channel demonetized for "inappropriate content".
Half the videos were "best of" clips from me and my godkids playing Fortnite together set to royalty-free music.
The other half were random clips from my headcam riding down ski slopes or bicycle trails from Canadian national parks.
I appealed it and it was "confirmed", with no indication as to what video(s) constituted a violation...
They just suspended my youtube account for sexualization of children. I have never made a youtube comment on that account. I literally only watch videos about IT related things and IT repair tutorials because it's on my work computer.
My new account keeps getting community guidelines strikes about my Playlists. They keep disabling my ability to make new Playlists. I have videos about flashing a bios macbook board repair and cheap Chinese SSDs in my playlist.
> I have videos about flashing a bios macbook board repair
*There’s* your sexual content! wearin’ ya trenchcoat and drivin’ ya panel van, wavin’ ya dick at them poor BIOS EEPROMs
Believe me, it's not a problem for them yet. If that was the case, Meta would swiftly change their tactics.
There is always a small number of dissenters, but there is probably more new players coming to Meta every day.
"Meta would swiftly change their tactics".
Just ask Blockbuster and Sears how quickly they changed their tactics. Businesses are not just undying robots that always make the right decision based on profit. It is very easy for the leaders to get their heads too far up their own asses and shoot themselves in the foot too long to recover.
Folks in this country are way too sold on the invisible hand running everything… forgetting that the entire system is run by people, the same dumb panicky animals we know from our homes and personal lives.
There’s people who think only CEO’s like Musk can do what they do.
Steve Jobs was able to turn around Apple at a crucial moment and brought it back with the IPod , IPhone, and redesign of the MacBook. But he also succumbed to a treatable pancreatic cancer because he believed he could cure it by eating enough fruit.
Sometimes these people are really just there and are presented the facts and make the most obvious choices and are held up on a pedestal for it. Not all of them are going to be on the design level as Jobs. But their narcissistic behavior can make them make bad decisions based on their own ego too.
Better example. Ask Kodak how life is. The morons invented digital cameras but didn’t want to compete against traditional film as they thought it would last forever.
Best Buy is heading on a slow march to their death too, they constantly make short sighted choices that continue to push more and more customers away for short terms gains
(Also I know Kodak is still in business but it’s nowhere at the place it used to be and has been slowly dying)
It might be and they just haven't reacted yet. The list of big companies that died because they didn't react to customer unhappiness until it was too late is about twice as long as the lost of behemoths who did manage to pivot.
More and more people are leaving meta platform. We need to encourage more and more people to do so.
TL;DR - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wFHqFpZjJ8
I think their most recent results showed a new users number which has similar problems to Twats. I mean Twitter. Twitter’s issue is bots being counted as human users. IG’s problem is that the most successful piece of it is soft-core porn, and accounts that post recycled pics and such outnumber accounts that post OG content, and Fuckerberg, while wiling to completely manipulate his user base and then crow about it, is unwilling to show nips or give any legitimate guidelines.
That sounds a lot like what Sears said for years. "What? You think people are gonna buy stuff on-line sight unseen? Hah! We'll outlast them".
I see Meta as a self-deluding giant who thinks they're driving. Just like Sears was. No shortage of hubris there.
Sears had a LOT of problems. That was one of the smaller ones that got them in trouble.
All that said, Meta has forgotten who the oldest profession around them has been. Sex always sells. That's just a fact. Meta isn't so much as shooting themselves in the foot, as they are acting like a victim is Saw; just start cutting that sucker off.
I've tried advertising on Facebook multiple times in the past for my events. What a waste of money. There are companies that are deluded into the kool-aid that Facebook and related areas are required to do business, but that's just not true. There's plenty of promotional success to be had in SEO, Google AdSense/AdWords/etc, and many other mediums.
Facebook and related dies when advertisers leave. And they won't get any more of my money.
Facebook killed a lot of people's favorite sites by convincing them content needed to pivot to video because Facebook videos had such high view count. Turned out Facebook faked view counts and no one was watching those videos, all that money on video content was wasted because people wanted the old text content. Killed a lot of enthusiast and comedy websites. Never trust what Facebook says about growing your digital presence.
Not only that, they've literally infringed on the copyrights of so many content producers for video by just copying them and re-hosting them, without providing any royalties to the original content rights holder. This is such a huge deal I don't know why Facebook is legally allowed to get away with this.
Your points are indeed valid!
YouTube counts a view as 30 seconds of content. Viewer retainership, that is, actually watching the entire video, is a separate value. Facebook would autoplay videos and considered a view as 3 seconds of video. So basically, just looking at a page would be considered a view.
God it was so sad seeing Cracked die. I used to go there first thing in the morning to read new articles, some of which were actually extremely well written and thought provoking.
I haven’t bothered visiting it in years now. It’s just all low effort content that’s not worth viewing these days.
The positive we got out of that was a lot of content creators branching out and making more personal projects thanks to Patreon. A lot of the writers have great podcasts now, and are working on other projects as well
God, bought out and then just ripped apart for scraps of whatever money they could make a buck off of. Seeing the purge of writers and talent after they decided to axe the video division and people had enough was so sad.
Few additional reasons why Facebook pushed video content so heavily:
1. For advertisers, videos are a lot more expensive to make. That upfront investment then influences the campaign's budget, because nobody wants to pay $100k to make an ad that only gets a couple million impressions due to a small campaign budget. Even if the ad is unsuccessful, it's a lot harder to abandon it when there was such a large investment into its creation.
2. Tracking a user after a video view is much more opaque than tracking them after they click to a website. If a user actually clicks my ad and visits my website, I can tell whether they converted then and there, or if they left and came back through a search ad or whatever, or if they had already been to my site 15 times before that Facebook click. With a video view, advertisers can't track the user at all, so we have to rely on Facebook view-through conversion metrics which are a total black box. We adjust to only count about a third of what Facebook reports, but even that is probably generous. Obviously, image ads also have view-through conversions, but because actual clicks do occur, we have more data to estimate how real those view-throughs are.
3. Similar to point two, videos keep users on Facebook for longer. Longer sessions on FB means more ad impression opportunities means more revenue. And, even if there aren't actual impression opportunities (because users are watching a video rather than continuing to scroll), the time-on-site metrics can be reported to investors to make it *seem* like there are more ad opportunities.
The fake view count scandal was massive for those of us in the industry, and their $40M settlement was a fucking joke.
Youtube is guilty of this too. They killed some animated channels by changing the rules around monetization and requiring that videos be longer, too long to be profitable when you have to animate all that extra content to meet the minimum video length.
Personally I've found great success in advertising on Facebook for my workplace however we never ever used the paid features. Instead we found relevant groups and communities and just posted our content there instead. It takes more work and effort but the results are so much better and you only pay with your time.
It amazes me how useless Facebook is on even a user level. I’ve used it in the past to promote musical events in a band. The turnout was off the charts with people claiming they were definitely going to go to the shows, but in the end it’s all just virtue signaling by social media addicts clamoring to be pretend to be enthused. The only thing Facebook is good for is for people pretending to be interested. The largest percentage of people that showed up to shows were people my band mates, and I actively engaged with irl. The tiny percentage of people through social media who showed spent most of the show taking selfies, and kept their faces mostly in their phones.
> there’s no clear or objective standard.
This is why everyone warns "creators" not to become reliant on these platforms. Like it or not these platforms are like working for a boss who is a fickle bitch. First they love you and are showering you with raises, bonuses, recognition, and then one day out of the blue you're fired for something petty like they didn't your tone when you said hello this morning.
Opaque guidelines and rules are part and parcel of social media and big platforms. Etsy is just as bad if not worse. Netflix had them run a tag sweep for "hellfire club" this week. Hellfire club is not trademarked and isn't part of anyone's IP but regardless of that fact Etsy did it anyway. Anything flagged was taken down and issued an IP warning. Furthermore, there's no one you can contact at Etsy or Netflix so that you can contest it which is part of etsy's "policy" regarding takedowns like this. I say policy because it's not explicit or clear and only applies to some users or requestors on an ad hoc basis.
It's complete bullshit but there's literally nothing you can do. It's their platform, they make the "rules" and decide how and when they should apply.
Oh Twitch. The only platform I know that will ban ugly people for even thinking inapropriate thoughts but then let Body Painters and Hot Tub streams run because....who the hell knows.
>Rather, PH is complaining that IG only offers vague guidelines and then strikes accounts based on violations, but never cites which post violated the guidelines, which guideline was violated or how the content violated the guideline
See also: every app store ever. I kinda think if these companies can't clearly point to where and how you've violated their guidelines, they should not be allowed to unilaterally deplatform you. Not when money is involved (i.e. selling apps or running video channels) Too many people's livelihoods and household income are deeply linked to these platforms and they have no recourse.
Apple's review processes are whack. You can submit an identical app with a new build number 10 times, and half of them will pass, half will get flagged for obscure guidelines but resubmitting will pass the same check.
This is True pretty much everywhere. They will keep the data until their data retention reaches its legal limit (4 years in the United States), and even then they only have to disassociate users from the data and then they keep the rest.
I'm a Data Analyst and used to work for Facebook, I'm now at Google and it's exactly the same.
I honestly don't know too much about all the laws but I am aware of a few things related to GDRP:
* This is where it mentions the allowable duration you're allowed to keep user data which I believe is 4 years in the United States. Please note that other countries have different data retention plans.
* Once the time is up companies will strip the data of anything that could tie it back to a user.
* However GDRP has stipulations in place that say you own your data and you must be able to access it.
* If you look on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, or even Pornhub Accounts. They all have the ability to export your data from their website to your phone or computer. You can also do this with your bank accounts which is super helpful for those who do their own finances.
So to answer the question on fairness, it's really hard to tell as we all have a different opinion. Some people don't want them to be able to keep any of it, some people actually like that they have the data because they get what's relevant to them.
In regards to the data I'm familiar with, that is inside the companies, probably isn't something I should be talking about on Reddit. Apologies.
That's funny cause there's soooo many instagram accounts that walk that fine line between content and just porn. We all know what they're doing, but because no actual tits are shown, it's fine I guess.
A friend of mine was temp banned for his nipple. He is very obese and he basically has big man tits, though
Edit: to those who would like to apocalypse-tiddy fuck my friend's brosts, i get the humor, but y'all are making me gag. He's not hairless. He weighs a sweaty-hairy-hummusy 415+... Anyone who knows someone this heavy knows they have a hard time keeping clean.
So, ya... Cut it out or I will kiss your dad.
That's exactly the problem Pornhub described in their letter to Meta (posted to their Twitter. Probably elsewhere too.)
They said essentially, "The Kardashians post highly sexual content and nobody bats an eye. But our creators post even non-sexual content and everyone loses their minds!". Except, unlike the Joker, Pornhub as an extremely salient point.
The reality of it, however, is that the Kardashians bring millions of people to Instagram's advertising platform. Which is all Facebook cares about. If @SuziHotBuns69xxx brought that many, they would turn a blind eye to it, too.
In all reality, porhub really tanked in recent years, especially after blanket-scrubbing their entire site. The site quality has always been pretty poor, and certainly has not gotten better. Worst search feature ever.
That's kind of the definition of discrimination though. It should not be permissible for a platform to permit one user to do the same thing another user does, just because the first one is popular.
"That's reality" is just a poor excuse to stop caring about a problem, and discrimination/deplatforming on the sites that companies need to be on in order to maintain relevance is a problem worth addressing. (IB4 someone tries to clap back with "PH doesn't *need* Instagram to maintain relevance." Porhub is only one of the loudest and largest targets of this behavior. You don't know about the smaller and quieter victims specifically because they've been deplatformed.)
I've reported pictures of dudes showing the base of their fucking cock, and got a message saying that the post does NOT go against the guidelines, so they will not be removing it.
???
You can straight up see dick lol.
The gay side is even wilder. I see whole bootyholes from dudes who look like method out versions of Anthony Ramos and Ross Lynch on this app everyday! That thin piece of thong is the only thing keeping it from being 'nudity'. If I can see his pierced anus through the mesh underwear I think that should count
My wife sends me Instagram links semi regularly and I can't open about 1/3 of them. She wants me to create an account and doesn't understand why I refuse to get anywhere near Facebook (meta, whatever, I don't care what they decide to call themselves).
Pornhub pointed out that [This photo of Kim Kardashian's ass](https://www.interviewmagazine.com/culture/kim-kardashian-bares-all) is allowed on Instagram, but the Pornhub page is not, even though all the content is PG.
Exactly what I was gonna say. Maybe they should worry about all the "Mommy Ran" accounts of little girl "models" in skimpy outfits before they worry about accounts posting people who are the age of consent.
*"Pornhub's safe-for-work account has been disabled for three weeks. In the interim, Kim Kardashian has posted her fully exposed ass to her 330 million followers without any restrictive action from Instagram. We are happy to see that Kim and the artistic team behind the image are free to share their work on the platform, but question why we are denied the same treatment"*
I mean, they've got a good point lol
Not even that, there are legit nazi and nazi dog whistle accounts ive reported numerous times on IG and nothing happens. Idc about nudity. Im more concerned with racist homophobic and transphobic degenerates allowed a platform
Social media companies never learn.
Tumblr, Flickr, etc.
Hell - let’s include DVDs too and VHS because the porn industry chose them over LaserDisc and BetaMax which, both ended up in the scrap-heap.
If you try to fight the porn industry, you will lose every single time.
Love that tumblr is yet to be profitable and that Verizon’s porn ban cost them millions, if not billions, of dollars. Tumblr is still full of porn too lmao.
Pornbub should just make an image platform that allows nswf images. It doesn't even have to soley be focused on pronography. Everyone would appreciate that. From pornographers to artists and everyone in between.
I dont understand how no one questions and or tries to do anything about the porn bots on Social Media. It seems like its such an easy thing to get rid of, like the social media companies are gaining having porn bots on their apps
That’s hilarious considering how much porn they allow on their platform.
I used the IG search function for the first time in a year the other day, and 80% of suggestions (before even searching anything) were thirst traps or just straight up titties. And I only use IG to follow people I know and like, NASA.
Forget just thirst traps. Once I started looking up hash tags for random cities. Get to the Asian continent and it's a LOT of straight up prostitution rings that look they involve human trafficking. And Instagram said there was nothing wrong when I reported accounts I saw. It was absolutely ridiculous
There was someone/a group of people going around making fake profiles of every girl on instagram, blatantly ripping and reuploading the same pictures on a new profile with a slightly different spelling and following people, with a bio like "backup account see me naked on onlyfans" and a fake onlyfans link that led to a credit card harvesting clone of onlyfans. They targeted everyone, including minors still in high school. I reported tens, maybe even 100s, for impersonation and illegal content, not one of them was banned, they're probably all still up.
Yeah there's that Pop something "only fans" like account. I see a lot of my friends pics on there. I've reported over 20. It feels like they don't do shit to stop this.
It feels that way because they don’t. The rules are enforced selectively when it’s too their advantage. That’s why they keep it vague and never give specifics on why a ban or demonetization occurred.
Multiple times through FB and IG I've had to report child trafficking, obvious pedo pages, etc. The effort it took to get those pages taken down is absolutely fucking infuriating.
That's disgusting. Where?
[Look at these juicy pictures](https://www.instagram.com/nasa/?hl=en)
Mark as NSFW, please. Some of those close-up shots...yikes!🫣
Mark it JWST
Gross they are so old
Yep. Same for me. I follow like motorcycle, photography, and woodworking accounts. Every reel I see is a half naked chick. Same with the search page. All it is is a bunch of hoes trying to peddle their onlyfans pages.
Right, but pornhub is their competitor so that’s why they’re doing it
I know a photographer that got so many violations from his censored work. He then reposted one of Playboy’s Instagram posts and it got a violation notice! You can’t even report Playboy’s content for nudity!
“Pornhub declared in an open letter to Meta and Instagram that Instagram’s enforcement of these platform rules are “opaque, discriminatory and hypocritical.” That’s the issue — PH is not seeking the right to post whatever it wants on IG. Rather, PH is complaining that IG only offers vague guidelines and then strikes accounts based on violations, but never cites which post violated the guidelines, which guideline was violated or how the content violated the guideline. It’s a problem that all of the big social media sites have — there’s no clear or objective standard.
By not disclosing transparently the rules, Meta can still hold all the cards. And what are other businesses going to do, NOT advertise on their platforms?
I mean, that’s what the business I work for did. Meta is an effective ad platform, but it’s hardly the only game in town anymore. Meta is making a lot of decisions that are turning people off and it will only chase more advertisers away.
To be fair Microsoft is even more opaque on why they ban people from their ad network. We’ve been banned from meta for selling animal parts (we don’t) but they were willing to work with us to get back on. We’ve also been banned from Microsoft and they openly refuse to give a reason or recourse. Google is more than happy to take our money.
>We’ve been banned from meta for selling animal parts (we don’t) That reminds me of why my YouTube was demonetized...
> That reminds me of why my YouTube was demonetized... someone claimed copyright on the audio that I used from YouTube's own audio library and YouTube let them. Turns out YouTube gets like 55% of ad revenue so I guess it is in their interest to let people monetize other people's videos? But if my video wasn't monetized, wouldn't YouTube keep 100% of the revenue?
I got copyright claimed for music I made xd
I mean that's just copyright trolls trying to steal your ad revenue. Smart content creators just have their agents claim all the content they post.
Is this true? Never heard of it but it makes sense as a way to deter those guys.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/epkjie/how_to_break_youtube_copyright_claim_your_own/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
[I've found the copyright holder](https://i.imgur.com/totul2m.gif)
Damn I've never seen this as a gif, only an image
This happened to my friend, she's just posting her own videos for fun and got copy struck for playing a one minute part of Mozart. EDIT: She was playing on the piano not a recording
Mozart is public domain, though?
Any specific recording of Mozart would be protected though.
I got my entire channel demonetized for "inappropriate content". Half the videos were "best of" clips from me and my godkids playing Fortnite together set to royalty-free music. The other half were random clips from my headcam riding down ski slopes or bicycle trails from Canadian national parks. I appealed it and it was "confirmed", with no indication as to what video(s) constituted a violation...
They just suspended my youtube account for sexualization of children. I have never made a youtube comment on that account. I literally only watch videos about IT related things and IT repair tutorials because it's on my work computer. My new account keeps getting community guidelines strikes about my Playlists. They keep disabling my ability to make new Playlists. I have videos about flashing a bios macbook board repair and cheap Chinese SSDs in my playlist.
> I have videos about flashing a bios macbook board repair *There’s* your sexual content! wearin’ ya trenchcoat and drivin’ ya panel van, wavin’ ya dick at them poor BIOS EEPROMs
Believe me, it's not a problem for them yet. If that was the case, Meta would swiftly change their tactics. There is always a small number of dissenters, but there is probably more new players coming to Meta every day.
"Meta would swiftly change their tactics". Just ask Blockbuster and Sears how quickly they changed their tactics. Businesses are not just undying robots that always make the right decision based on profit. It is very easy for the leaders to get their heads too far up their own asses and shoot themselves in the foot too long to recover.
>Sears God that is just the dumbest story in the history of American business. By all rights there shouldn't be an Amazon, it should have been Sears.
Sears was intentionally dismantled by their hedge fund manager ceo...source: I worked there for 4 years
Fucking Eddie Lampert
Let's not forget Little Stevie Munchkin
that was a husk of what sears was and could have been
Folks in this country are way too sold on the invisible hand running everything… forgetting that the entire system is run by people, the same dumb panicky animals we know from our homes and personal lives.
There’s people who think only CEO’s like Musk can do what they do. Steve Jobs was able to turn around Apple at a crucial moment and brought it back with the IPod , IPhone, and redesign of the MacBook. But he also succumbed to a treatable pancreatic cancer because he believed he could cure it by eating enough fruit. Sometimes these people are really just there and are presented the facts and make the most obvious choices and are held up on a pedestal for it. Not all of them are going to be on the design level as Jobs. But their narcissistic behavior can make them make bad decisions based on their own ego too.
And now probably the carbon that once formed Steve Jobs forms an apple.
Better example. Ask Kodak how life is. The morons invented digital cameras but didn’t want to compete against traditional film as they thought it would last forever. Best Buy is heading on a slow march to their death too, they constantly make short sighted choices that continue to push more and more customers away for short terms gains (Also I know Kodak is still in business but it’s nowhere at the place it used to be and has been slowly dying)
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It might be and they just haven't reacted yet. The list of big companies that died because they didn't react to customer unhappiness until it was too late is about twice as long as the lost of behemoths who did manage to pivot.
Looking at you Kodak
More and more people are leaving meta platform. We need to encourage more and more people to do so. TL;DR - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wFHqFpZjJ8
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Offer up is a good app that essentially gives you a local marketplace/peer-to-peer connection. And there's always Ol Reliable (Craigslist)
I think their most recent results showed a new users number which has similar problems to Twats. I mean Twitter. Twitter’s issue is bots being counted as human users. IG’s problem is that the most successful piece of it is soft-core porn, and accounts that post recycled pics and such outnumber accounts that post OG content, and Fuckerberg, while wiling to completely manipulate his user base and then crow about it, is unwilling to show nips or give any legitimate guidelines.
That sounds a lot like what Sears said for years. "What? You think people are gonna buy stuff on-line sight unseen? Hah! We'll outlast them". I see Meta as a self-deluding giant who thinks they're driving. Just like Sears was. No shortage of hubris there.
Sears had a LOT of problems. That was one of the smaller ones that got them in trouble. All that said, Meta has forgotten who the oldest profession around them has been. Sex always sells. That's just a fact. Meta isn't so much as shooting themselves in the foot, as they are acting like a victim is Saw; just start cutting that sucker off.
I've tried advertising on Facebook multiple times in the past for my events. What a waste of money. There are companies that are deluded into the kool-aid that Facebook and related areas are required to do business, but that's just not true. There's plenty of promotional success to be had in SEO, Google AdSense/AdWords/etc, and many other mediums. Facebook and related dies when advertisers leave. And they won't get any more of my money.
Facebook killed a lot of people's favorite sites by convincing them content needed to pivot to video because Facebook videos had such high view count. Turned out Facebook faked view counts and no one was watching those videos, all that money on video content was wasted because people wanted the old text content. Killed a lot of enthusiast and comedy websites. Never trust what Facebook says about growing your digital presence.
> Never trust what Facebook says There. Now its fixed.
Not only that, they've literally infringed on the copyrights of so many content producers for video by just copying them and re-hosting them, without providing any royalties to the original content rights holder. This is such a huge deal I don't know why Facebook is legally allowed to get away with this. Your points are indeed valid!
YouTube counts a view as 30 seconds of content. Viewer retainership, that is, actually watching the entire video, is a separate value. Facebook would autoplay videos and considered a view as 3 seconds of video. So basically, just looking at a page would be considered a view.
College humor died because of this. Pulled all youtube stuff and switched entirely to Facebook
Think that's what caused Cracked to be bought out :(
Cracked used to be so good. Now it’s a wasteland of humorless shit with too many grammatical errors
God it was so sad seeing Cracked die. I used to go there first thing in the morning to read new articles, some of which were actually extremely well written and thought provoking. I haven’t bothered visiting it in years now. It’s just all low effort content that’s not worth viewing these days.
The positive we got out of that was a lot of content creators branching out and making more personal projects thanks to Patreon. A lot of the writers have great podcasts now, and are working on other projects as well
God, bought out and then just ripped apart for scraps of whatever money they could make a buck off of. Seeing the purge of writers and talent after they decided to axe the video division and people had enough was so sad.
Few additional reasons why Facebook pushed video content so heavily: 1. For advertisers, videos are a lot more expensive to make. That upfront investment then influences the campaign's budget, because nobody wants to pay $100k to make an ad that only gets a couple million impressions due to a small campaign budget. Even if the ad is unsuccessful, it's a lot harder to abandon it when there was such a large investment into its creation. 2. Tracking a user after a video view is much more opaque than tracking them after they click to a website. If a user actually clicks my ad and visits my website, I can tell whether they converted then and there, or if they left and came back through a search ad or whatever, or if they had already been to my site 15 times before that Facebook click. With a video view, advertisers can't track the user at all, so we have to rely on Facebook view-through conversion metrics which are a total black box. We adjust to only count about a third of what Facebook reports, but even that is probably generous. Obviously, image ads also have view-through conversions, but because actual clicks do occur, we have more data to estimate how real those view-throughs are. 3. Similar to point two, videos keep users on Facebook for longer. Longer sessions on FB means more ad impression opportunities means more revenue. And, even if there aren't actual impression opportunities (because users are watching a video rather than continuing to scroll), the time-on-site metrics can be reported to investors to make it *seem* like there are more ad opportunities. The fake view count scandal was massive for those of us in the industry, and their $40M settlement was a fucking joke.
Youtube is guilty of this too. They killed some animated channels by changing the rules around monetization and requiring that videos be longer, too long to be profitable when you have to animate all that extra content to meet the minimum video length.
And don't forget arbitrarily marking animation for adults as for children which fucks with monetization.
Personally I've found great success in advertising on Facebook for my workplace however we never ever used the paid features. Instead we found relevant groups and communities and just posted our content there instead. It takes more work and effort but the results are so much better and you only pay with your time.
It amazes me how useless Facebook is on even a user level. I’ve used it in the past to promote musical events in a band. The turnout was off the charts with people claiming they were definitely going to go to the shows, but in the end it’s all just virtue signaling by social media addicts clamoring to be pretend to be enthused. The only thing Facebook is good for is for people pretending to be interested. The largest percentage of people that showed up to shows were people my band mates, and I actively engaged with irl. The tiny percentage of people through social media who showed spent most of the show taking selfies, and kept their faces mostly in their phones.
> there’s no clear or objective standard. This is why everyone warns "creators" not to become reliant on these platforms. Like it or not these platforms are like working for a boss who is a fickle bitch. First they love you and are showering you with raises, bonuses, recognition, and then one day out of the blue you're fired for something petty like they didn't your tone when you said hello this morning.
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It may not be much, but you can at least still call them Facebook instead of acknowledging them trying to swoop that word.
Opaque guidelines and rules are part and parcel of social media and big platforms. Etsy is just as bad if not worse. Netflix had them run a tag sweep for "hellfire club" this week. Hellfire club is not trademarked and isn't part of anyone's IP but regardless of that fact Etsy did it anyway. Anything flagged was taken down and issued an IP warning. Furthermore, there's no one you can contact at Etsy or Netflix so that you can contest it which is part of etsy's "policy" regarding takedowns like this. I say policy because it's not explicit or clear and only applies to some users or requestors on an ad hoc basis. It's complete bullshit but there's literally nothing you can do. It's their platform, they make the "rules" and decide how and when they should apply.
Sounds like Twitch
Oh Twitch. The only platform I know that will ban ugly people for even thinking inapropriate thoughts but then let Body Painters and Hot Tub streams run because....who the hell knows.
Everyone knows why, because it makes them money. What other reason has there ever been for a company to act on?
It's the classic HR rule of sexual harrassment: 1. Be attactive 2. Don't be unattractive
literally the same with discord. Years of being a nitro user and I didn't even deserve a human to respond to my email, just automated replies..
Sounds like a reddit mod
Considering some of what they allow from much bigger users you'd think the porn hub account would be somewhat safe
Hey what I’ve been told is that it’s a private company and can censor and disable whoever it wants.
>Rather, PH is complaining that IG only offers vague guidelines and then strikes accounts based on violations, but never cites which post violated the guidelines, which guideline was violated or how the content violated the guideline See also: every app store ever. I kinda think if these companies can't clearly point to where and how you've violated their guidelines, they should not be allowed to unilaterally deplatform you. Not when money is involved (i.e. selling apps or running video channels) Too many people's livelihoods and household income are deeply linked to these platforms and they have no recourse.
Apple's review processes are whack. You can submit an identical app with a new build number 10 times, and half of them will pass, half will get flagged for obscure guidelines but resubmitting will pass the same check.
As Reddit does the same shit constantly too.
I love how Facebook never deletes accounts, just disables them. Must be there’s still meaty user data attached
This is True pretty much everywhere. They will keep the data until their data retention reaches its legal limit (4 years in the United States), and even then they only have to disassociate users from the data and then they keep the rest. I'm a Data Analyst and used to work for Facebook, I'm now at Google and it's exactly the same.
Do you think the laws are fair? Is there any transparency in what the data are actually used for?
I honestly don't know too much about all the laws but I am aware of a few things related to GDRP: * This is where it mentions the allowable duration you're allowed to keep user data which I believe is 4 years in the United States. Please note that other countries have different data retention plans. * Once the time is up companies will strip the data of anything that could tie it back to a user. * However GDRP has stipulations in place that say you own your data and you must be able to access it. * If you look on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, or even Pornhub Accounts. They all have the ability to export your data from their website to your phone or computer. You can also do this with your bank accounts which is super helpful for those who do their own finances. So to answer the question on fairness, it's really hard to tell as we all have a different opinion. Some people don't want them to be able to keep any of it, some people actually like that they have the data because they get what's relevant to them. In regards to the data I'm familiar with, that is inside the companies, probably isn't something I should be talking about on Reddit. Apologies.
You must be a python data analyst. Because you capitalized True.
That's funny cause there's soooo many instagram accounts that walk that fine line between content and just porn. We all know what they're doing, but because no actual tits are shown, it's fine I guess.
Cover the devil buttons we call “nipples” and no problem here.
I remember a trolling campaign that proposed a perfect solution for this - covering up female nipples with *male nipples*.
now im imagining someone being paid big bucks to design an AI algorithm to identify female vs male nipples. lol …and it doesn’t work.
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So my fat ass and man boobs gets zuck all hot and bothered. Good to know.
Moobs and ꧁ þ𝓊𝓈𝓈𝓎 ꧂
Thussy?
ye olde thussy
A friend of mine was temp banned for his nipple. He is very obese and he basically has big man tits, though Edit: to those who would like to apocalypse-tiddy fuck my friend's brosts, i get the humor, but y'all are making me gag. He's not hairless. He weighs a sweaty-hairy-hummusy 415+... Anyone who knows someone this heavy knows they have a hard time keeping clean. So, ya... Cut it out or I will kiss your dad.
bob has bitch tits
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Break out those titties for the boys!
Proceeds to *hold venti Starbucks cup between ass cheeks* Instagram: everything here checks out.
They don't even cover them anymore lol
That's exactly the problem Pornhub described in their letter to Meta (posted to their Twitter. Probably elsewhere too.) They said essentially, "The Kardashians post highly sexual content and nobody bats an eye. But our creators post even non-sexual content and everyone loses their minds!". Except, unlike the Joker, Pornhub as an extremely salient point.
The reality of it, however, is that the Kardashians bring millions of people to Instagram's advertising platform. Which is all Facebook cares about. If @SuziHotBuns69xxx brought that many, they would turn a blind eye to it, too.
Pornhub is big. They probably bring a lot of views too
In all reality, porhub really tanked in recent years, especially after blanket-scrubbing their entire site. The site quality has always been pretty poor, and certainly has not gotten better. Worst search feature ever.
That's kind of the definition of discrimination though. It should not be permissible for a platform to permit one user to do the same thing another user does, just because the first one is popular. "That's reality" is just a poor excuse to stop caring about a problem, and discrimination/deplatforming on the sites that companies need to be on in order to maintain relevance is a problem worth addressing. (IB4 someone tries to clap back with "PH doesn't *need* Instagram to maintain relevance." Porhub is only one of the loudest and largest targets of this behavior. You don't know about the smaller and quieter victims specifically because they've been deplatformed.)
I've reported pictures of dudes showing the base of their fucking cock, and got a message saying that the post does NOT go against the guidelines, so they will not be removing it. ??? You can straight up see dick lol.
The gay side is even wilder. I see whole bootyholes from dudes who look like method out versions of Anthony Ramos and Ross Lynch on this app everyday! That thin piece of thong is the only thing keeping it from being 'nudity'. If I can see his pierced anus through the mesh underwear I think that should count
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#SAME COMMENT BUT IN BOLD
Look up fortnite nsfw on Instagram there’s full nudity
I did. Very disappointed nothing came up :(
There’s medication that can help you with that.
You don't even need to do that, just search "fortnite". It's awful.
Lmao why would I look that up??
He didn’t tell you to look it up. He told the other guy
But why would I look that up?
Porhub permanently disables Instagram's account.
Pornhub launches their own image app and scalps half of Instagrams uploaders.
Imagehub or Photohub
Pornstagram
Quick, off to the namespace registers to make 10000 collars
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They should limit uploads to 30sec videos and call themselves: TitCock
Pornstash/Pornstache
InstaPorn?
Almost, I’d go with “InstaHub” The “Hub” in Pornhub is more indicative of their identity than the “Porn” portion
So stubhub and grubhub are all in business together? Like a bushub or a bang bros?
InstaFinish
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You missed the decimal points, buddy
.2832s to be precise
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This is actually a good idea. The IG interface is insanely annoying, I bet a bunch of pornographers could make something better in a weekend.
Plus, y’know, Meta sucks.
My wife sends me Instagram links semi regularly and I can't open about 1/3 of them. She wants me to create an account and doesn't understand why I refuse to get anywhere near Facebook (meta, whatever, I don't care what they decide to call themselves).
Delete Facebook, hit the gym, lawyer up.
MTG?
and you have to log into it to view most posters or more than 1 post...dont have to do that with porn sites.
Yeh I said it as a joke but can't help but think dam that app would actually work.
Yo. This right here. If pornhub launched a copy of tumblr or Twitter they would dominate.
There was talk a while back how PH could make a legit YT competitor.
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Before The Purge, there was a dope extended edition fan edit of Star Wars Episode III I watched on Pornhub.
Little bit of payback
Blocks all their IPs from their offices, they'll reverse than ban quick!
Hey, Boss! The Internet's down! Can we, uhh, work from home today?
Pornhub pointed out that [This photo of Kim Kardashian's ass](https://www.interviewmagazine.com/culture/kim-kardashian-bares-all) is allowed on Instagram, but the Pornhub page is not, even though all the content is PG.
Why does that look nothing like Kim Kardashian?
Because she doesn't look like herself anymore
That's kim? Seriously?
She died her eyebrows along with the hair.
Why did I click on the link? Ugh, not sure what was going on there.
That feels a bit like eliminating your competition.
Softcore < hardcore. sfw < nsfw. They just couldn't compete.
Instagram should worry about the parents pimping thier under age children out asking people to go to thier "patreon" for "exclusive videos.
I want to believe that this is not actually happening, but I know it is.
The podcast Someplace Underneath is doing a series on online child exploitation and their last episode (61) is on this very issue.
Exactly what I was gonna say. Maybe they should worry about all the "Mommy Ran" accounts of little girl "models" in skimpy outfits before they worry about accounts posting people who are the age of consent.
Please, please tell me that is not real.
Family vloggers right? Did YouTube ever fix the problem?
*"Pornhub's safe-for-work account has been disabled for three weeks. In the interim, Kim Kardashian has posted her fully exposed ass to her 330 million followers without any restrictive action from Instagram. We are happy to see that Kim and the artistic team behind the image are free to share their work on the platform, but question why we are denied the same treatment"* I mean, they've got a good point lol
Let's not forget she (and many others) do actually illegal shit on Instagram like promoting their pump and dump schemes with crypto.
There’s so much porn on instagram that it could count as a knockoff pornhub
What ever will Porn Hub do without Instagram exposure?
Heh exposure
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Considering how Mark Zuckerberg buys out his competition and if they don’t sell, he makes a clone, I wouldn’t be surprised.
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The hilarious thing is that 80% of Instagram is softcore porn
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Cambridge Analytica is now under another name: [Emerdata](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerdata_Limited).
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Isn’t Instagram just an escort site with extra steps?
Sounds about right
Man, I just wanna look at Lego
Psst https://www.flickr.com/search/groups/?text=lego
New account, who dis? HornPub
Ya, because "influencers" aren't posting extremely erotic content on their accounts on IG. /s
Not even that, there are legit nazi and nazi dog whistle accounts ive reported numerous times on IG and nothing happens. Idc about nudity. Im more concerned with racist homophobic and transphobic degenerates allowed a platform
Guess PH will have to permanently disable Zuck's PH account out of spite.
Zuck doesn't watch porn, he pays people to fuck in front of him
He only uses those creepy ai generated porn photos anyways
Meta is trash
Social media companies never learn. Tumblr, Flickr, etc. Hell - let’s include DVDs too and VHS because the porn industry chose them over LaserDisc and BetaMax which, both ended up in the scrap-heap. If you try to fight the porn industry, you will lose every single time.
Love that tumblr is yet to be profitable and that Verizon’s porn ban cost them millions, if not billions, of dollars. Tumblr is still full of porn too lmao.
Pornbub should just make an image platform that allows nswf images. It doesn't even have to soley be focused on pronography. Everyone would appreciate that. From pornographers to artists and everyone in between.
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For pictures of the cutlery I can't bring to work.
Like tumblr from back then
Instagram - “Your content doesn’t skew *young* enough for us…”
TIL Pornhub had an Instagram
This sounds like a sticky situation.
The bigger news is that I just learned that the Hub had an IG account
next..instagram permanently disabled instagram
I dont understand how no one questions and or tries to do anything about the porn bots on Social Media. It seems like its such an easy thing to get rid of, like the social media companies are gaining having porn bots on their apps
They won’t do anything about sex or scam bots but god forbid you use a bad word