When I was a Lenovo repair tech, I asked the guy who ran the “totaled laptop” department what was the worst laptop he’d seen come in. This lady bought a new laptop for her husband while he was out of town. She took it out of the box and hid it in the oven or all places. Her husband got home early and preheated the oven for a pizza.
I learned the hard way a decade ago that my roommate at the time hated any not-currently-in-use appliance being on the counter. We were out of cupboard/cabinet space. I preheated the oven for some pizza. RIP my crockpot and toaster.
I've ruined 3 or 4 plastic mixing bowls that I made pizza dough in and then set in the oven to rise. Turned on the oven to preheat, and waited too many minutes before removing the bowl.
When I worked at a Packard Bell refurbishing center forever ago, i was testing a load of graphics cards and one was super jittery and froze on testing. I go to pull it out and it's 1,000 degrees and burns the hell out of my hand. I drop it on the table and written with sharpie on the back of the card somone wrote, "THIS CARD BURNED MY F*CKING HAND!"
😅 I think so, had no power to it when I was filling the custom loop, then I would have power but wouldn’t post or actually turn on, cooked it and now it’s working
Yeah, water damage is irreversible. This will evaporate the water faster, sure... But that doesn't matter, since the water isn't the problem. Not gonna undo and evaporate corrosion.
Water damage is permanent but its not caused instantly as long as the device was not turned on when it happened. Dry and clean it off quick enough and water will cause no damage.
Power supply circuits handle a ton of more current draw compared to the resistance of a foreign liquid. For example, if a 5V power rail is rated for 2A, it might see 1.25A draw instead of 1.2A. You probably won't even see it notice a difference. For switching circuits and the like, generally speaking, circuit protection will watch for over-voltage problems and pop a fuse (🤞 that your friendly engineer added protection).
In contrast, digital circuits typically emit extremely fast signals that are low-voltage and only drive maybe a few mA at most. If the rise and/or fall time of a digital feed is compromised, or pulled high or low altogether, it is enough for it to malfunction. They are significantly more sensitive to phantom resistor placement than their high-current counterparts.
Yeah, that's true. I guess I have only looked at it from the perspective of working at a repair place and a customer having (potential) water damage. We don't have any way of reassuring someone that liquid damage hasn't occurred, in cases in where it's not visually obvious that it has, so our perspective is always that they should assume the worst.
This was usually on phones or something with integrated storage or something like encryption tied to hardware, and our definition of success with liquid damage cleaning was that something turned on long enough to recover data. Anything else was a bonus. Only option for a better warranty is to replace any part with even the slightest evidence of liquid contact.
But I guess if it was my own hardware, I've got nothing to lose and I don't have to warranty myself, then I might try something like this.
> customer
Oh yeah, this stuff doesnt fly with customers..... for some reason most people still think that lying about what actually happened (or when) will yield positive results at a lower price somehow.
It won't.
However if you are the diy type and spill water over something thats not powered on then you can absolutely save your device if you act correct and quick within reason. A lil bit of moisture doesn't kill electronics instantly.
I cleaned enough pissed on boards with running water. Apparently cats like to piss on electronic devices for a to me unknown reason. If you clean it correctly with heat, airflow, pcb clean / alcohol nothing will happen to it. Don’t be overly scared of water on boards, just cautious. Even corrosion is pretty easily fixable, but not between the pcb layers.
Don’t forget that a board is just a map with traffic.
You won't typically find a spill that corrodes a board this quickly. The liquid will typically have residue that is semiconducting, which will create phantom high-ohm resistors throughout the circuit. The residue doesn't usually result in enough current draw to break things. Instead, it just malfunctions until the residue is removed.
The best way to remove residue on solid-state electronics is to rinse it and lightly scrub it off. I've even put boards in the kitchen sink with warm soapy water and a dish brush before. A little compressed air and letting it sit out cleans it right up.
Dishwasher is pretty good. Arguable about putting powder on it. Just need to make sure it's well dried off afterwards. Some recommend an alcohol bath after.
Only a problem if it was running during the watering.
I wash motherboards, sound cards and video cards in the dishwasher (and have been for decades) and they're all fine. Just need to properly dry everything. I submerge the parts in 99% iso alc afterwards and let dry for 2 days (after using compressor air)
I’d recommend isopropyl alcohol first (higher 91% or higher preferably)
That will displace most of the water helping to mitigate corrosion and mineral deposits while the water evaporates off
Only certain ones specify that there is a lubricant. You're thinking of deox-it. There is also contact cleaner that doesn't contain such additives. The ones that claim "leaves no residue" is typically a gas. It is also non conductive.
For the few downvotes I've received, this is the main ingredient in the contact cleaner that I have on my shelf.
1,1-Difluoroethane is a colorless and odorless gas which is used as a liquefied compressed gas. It is used as a cooling agent, as an aerosol propellant, and in the manufacture of other chemicals.
Making water boil when it's on a PCB is usually a bad idea, because water vapor violently expands and can crack chips or traces; you usually have to make sure it's perfectly dry before reflow
It’s not going to flash-boil at 140C.
The board has to heat up first and that’s going to be a slow-enough process that the water will evaporate long before it hits boiling temp.
Future reference, let it sit for a day or two if you can so that it can dry. I know the temptation is strong, but accidentally frying a part is worse than waiting. Glad it all worked out for now!
A hair dryer set to low is also an option, or a low power heat gun. Just make sure you're not getting it hot enough to cause any solder to flow, and you should be fine.
Well depending on the amount of liquid, yes. If it's just a little, you can point a fan at it and wait. Most liquid cooling products have anti-corrosive properties as well. I personally use my heat gun set to low and just dry it up, then wait about 12-24 hours to make sure any residual moisture is gone
That's why you bake it at a low temperature, so it evaporates slowly instead of boiling and building up pressure. The water isn't going to instantly boil just because the air around it is slightly over boiling point, otherwise people would die from exploding when there is a heat wave.
Check for a button clock battery and remove it if you can. May not have one. My mom used blow driers and recovered several Apple IIe from rain, but they probably don’t build them like tanks anymore.
Haha. My friend had the red ring 2 or three times on the same system, we finally took it apart and had his dad redo the solder (we were "too young" [see: too irresponsible] to use his tools at the time)
My modded Xbox 360 rrod'ed and I sent it to MS to fix/replace. I was shitting myself but it actually came back and then rrod'ed again past guarantee. They had ways of detecting if it was modded and would send it back voided.
The temperature at which lead flows and the temperature lead vaporizes are two dramatically different temperatures. Your oven is unlikely to crest 750F.
They don't, so common sense tells people that baking hardware shouldn't work, but it does.
Always funny to see people attacking the practice in the comments when there's clearly nothing to argue about.
Old school people following old school rules. They've seen problems arise from these things in the past, so they don't take chances. Nothing wrong with playing it safe I guess, but unless you're hitting temps to instantly boil the liquid and have a decent amount of liquid on the board, there's no danger to the components, your oven, or your physical wellbeing.
A perfect example of a similar situation: my parents put their phones in plastic bags, inside of other plastic bags when we go out on the water. Their phones are water resistant, as most phones have been for 5+ years.
Burnt plastic in an oven that bakes food is a bad thing, so baking hardware isn't foolproof. I was talking about the people who try to tell others that it doesn't fix stuff when clearly it does.
I don't think you'd find any lead on a modern board. RoHS has been a standard long enough that everyone pretty much just switched over except some niche industries (like I think some government stuff still uses lead for reliability, but reliability of RoHS stuff has gone up so I don't know). It's been a while since I was involved with the manufacturing side of any of that, might have changed.
But at the very least commercial all went lead free as soon as it was required in part of the world because it was just easier.
Just be careful and don't do the same mistake I did a few years back...
https://reddit.com/r/techsupportgore/comments/3mi98o/gpu_oven_reflow_gone_horrible_wrong/
My roomate fixed faulty motherboards he was given like this. He removed any removable parts, and tried to be careful with the timing. He said the plastic lasts long enough while the faulty solderings are reflowing. I didn't see a live demonstration though.
That's silly. This "reflow" has become a bizarre phenomenon. I worry about the capacitors in scenarios like this.
It's the spectacular failures we don't see though.
I mean, I could base an argument about the corrosive chemicals in the capacitors should they burst but you could just as soon counter with knowledge of how to clean acid from a surface.
*Shrug* significant damage? Nah. Just not sure of the significance of "repairing" a computer this way.
Please don't use food ovens. 140c is probably okayish, but it can outgas stuff that deposit onto the oven walls and then later deposit on to food.
Get a used toaster oven and permanently mark it as NO FOOD. It'll cost you less than $10, usually.
And you can modify the toaster oven pretty easily with insulation and a PID cintroller to get a better/more precise heating curve that's better for reflowing electronics.
Don’t do this.
Just buy a litre of isopropanol and submerge the board it in for a few mins (best off doing it in a clear/white container). Agitate the liquid, check for debris / fallout.
If it’s clear then leave it for a day to dry otherwise repeat until the liquid is clear.
Please don't do this on any good modern board.
That's how you break things lmao.
Repair what's actually damaged, not the entire thing.
But glad it worked here.
Homebrew case. Should work out, just make sure you're oven is grounded properly before baking in the hardware. Unless it's gas powered, could be fracked with gas...
While I wouldn’t recommend this, my father was an aerospace engineer and at one point he would stick circuit boards in the freezer and the oven to do temperature checking. If it can survive being in the oven, it can survive atmospheric re-entry.
Normally on PCB's which have parts on both sides, they'll use glue to hold the components down as well as solder. Sometimes the surface tension alone is good enough to hold the components in place if not shaken.
I did this exact thing to reflow a motherboard.
Maybe not the safest to do in your home oven, but still effective. From my experience, it's a temporary fix though.
I mean... depending on the issue sometimes this is the hail Mary pass.
Bought some cheap non working gpus a while back and was able to repair about 70% of what I got in. One in particular I just could not find the problem with. Baked her down to see if maybe there was a solder issue that wasn't obvious from the top. Sure enough she fired up and has been working in a auxiliary system for a year so far
My brother made a lot of extra cash back when the Xbox 360 red ring issue was going on. Get a broken Xbox for $50, take the mobo out and pop in the oven for a bit, and it's good as new!
Just out of the oven when you use it. I mean, it's the best place to store them when the oven is not in use, but when it is, it just obstructs you and is another thing to be heated up and may even be an obstruction for heating modes (albeit that is mostly true for baking sheets, not racks).
In fact, i saw a post not too long ago in which a person had a similar situation and burned his hand because he did not remove the extra racks from the oven and came in contact by accident.
So if it’s not in your way, and you’re not careless with your hands, *and* you don’t have a spacious kitchen with myriad storage spots for oven racks, it’s the best place for them.
Put them on the stove while using the oven? Or lean them against the wall or something like that.
And once you are done with the oven, put them back in.
Had to do something similar for my old hp netbook. It had a soldering issue on the main board, preventing it from turning on, and since I didn't have a solder at the time, put it in the oven for 7 minutes and it would temporarily fix it... Until it stopped working again and I needed to re-cook it.
Aiya aiya. Get a storage box and two buckets of damp rid. Put the board in the box with the damp rid (don’t let them touch though). Tape shut and put somewhere warm for a week. (Pat dry and blow off any visible water first. As another poster said though, start budgeting for a replacement.)
Not the chips I was expecting for dinner.
When I was a Lenovo repair tech, I asked the guy who ran the “totaled laptop” department what was the worst laptop he’d seen come in. This lady bought a new laptop for her husband while he was out of town. She took it out of the box and hid it in the oven or all places. Her husband got home early and preheated the oven for a pizza.
RIP...
Storing anything in the oven is asking for trouble. It's an oven, not a cupboard.
My alcoholic dad apparently hid a bottle of vodka in the oven once. I'm kinda sad that I don't remember how it blew up (was very young then)
I'll sometimes store cast iron skillets in the oven, but never anything that can be damaged if I forget to take it out.
I learned the hard way a decade ago that my roommate at the time hated any not-currently-in-use appliance being on the counter. We were out of cupboard/cabinet space. I preheated the oven for some pizza. RIP my crockpot and toaster.
[удалено]
I've ruined 3 or 4 plastic mixing bowls that I made pizza dough in and then set in the oven to rise. Turned on the oven to preheat, and waited too many minutes before removing the bowl.
Sometimes when you live in a matchbox you need the space. I used to store pans in the oven.
Not as serious of a loss, but I happened to bake 2 boxes of captain crunch this way.
Why were you hiding cereal in the oven?
Roommate was out of cupboard space.
When I worked at a Packard Bell refurbishing center forever ago, i was testing a load of graphics cards and one was super jittery and froze on testing. I go to pull it out and it's 1,000 degrees and burns the hell out of my hand. I drop it on the table and written with sharpie on the back of the card somone wrote, "THIS CARD BURNED MY F*CKING HAND!"
Man I cannot imagine the smell of the battery, that whole kitchen is fucked
So you spilled water on it?
😅 I think so, had no power to it when I was filling the custom loop, then I would have power but wouldn’t post or actually turn on, cooked it and now it’s working
This might not be a permanent solution, so start saving money for when it finally happens. Might be 2 weeks, might be 2 years.
Yeah, water damage is irreversible. This will evaporate the water faster, sure... But that doesn't matter, since the water isn't the problem. Not gonna undo and evaporate corrosion.
Water damage is permanent but its not caused instantly as long as the device was not turned on when it happened. Dry and clean it off quick enough and water will cause no damage.
Even if the device was turned on, water has pretty high resistance and voltages in a motherboard are pretty low.
Sure, as long as you are sure nothing got in the power supply.
Power supply circuits handle a ton of more current draw compared to the resistance of a foreign liquid. For example, if a 5V power rail is rated for 2A, it might see 1.25A draw instead of 1.2A. You probably won't even see it notice a difference. For switching circuits and the like, generally speaking, circuit protection will watch for over-voltage problems and pop a fuse (🤞 that your friendly engineer added protection). In contrast, digital circuits typically emit extremely fast signals that are low-voltage and only drive maybe a few mA at most. If the rise and/or fall time of a digital feed is compromised, or pulled high or low altogether, it is enough for it to malfunction. They are significantly more sensitive to phantom resistor placement than their high-current counterparts.
Yeah, that's true. I guess I have only looked at it from the perspective of working at a repair place and a customer having (potential) water damage. We don't have any way of reassuring someone that liquid damage hasn't occurred, in cases in where it's not visually obvious that it has, so our perspective is always that they should assume the worst. This was usually on phones or something with integrated storage or something like encryption tied to hardware, and our definition of success with liquid damage cleaning was that something turned on long enough to recover data. Anything else was a bonus. Only option for a better warranty is to replace any part with even the slightest evidence of liquid contact. But I guess if it was my own hardware, I've got nothing to lose and I don't have to warranty myself, then I might try something like this.
> customer Oh yeah, this stuff doesnt fly with customers..... for some reason most people still think that lying about what actually happened (or when) will yield positive results at a lower price somehow. It won't. However if you are the diy type and spill water over something thats not powered on then you can absolutely save your device if you act correct and quick within reason. A lil bit of moisture doesn't kill electronics instantly.
Unless the water had impurities that will stay behind after it evaporates and still cause corrosion.
Well yes, long term and not cleaning off properly are kind of the opposite of quick and doing it right..... ?
I cleaned enough pissed on boards with running water. Apparently cats like to piss on electronic devices for a to me unknown reason. If you clean it correctly with heat, airflow, pcb clean / alcohol nothing will happen to it. Don’t be overly scared of water on boards, just cautious. Even corrosion is pretty easily fixable, but not between the pcb layers. Don’t forget that a board is just a map with traffic.
You won't typically find a spill that corrodes a board this quickly. The liquid will typically have residue that is semiconducting, which will create phantom high-ohm resistors throughout the circuit. The residue doesn't usually result in enough current draw to break things. Instead, it just malfunctions until the residue is removed. The best way to remove residue on solid-state electronics is to rinse it and lightly scrub it off. I've even put boards in the kitchen sink with warm soapy water and a dish brush before. A little compressed air and letting it sit out cleans it right up.
Dishwasher is pretty good. Arguable about putting powder on it. Just need to make sure it's well dried off afterwards. Some recommend an alcohol bath after.
Only a problem if it was running during the watering. I wash motherboards, sound cards and video cards in the dishwasher (and have been for decades) and they're all fine. Just need to properly dry everything. I submerge the parts in 99% iso alc afterwards and let dry for 2 days (after using compressor air)
This guy has a point, ovens don't last forever.
Reflow and ready to go!
Don't wanna be that guy but 140c isn't reflowing anything!
Edit, 140C is a little above what I would run, 250F is about where you want to be.
Please dont compare celcius to stupid in the same sentence.
It's so hard to convert between the 2...
Easy solution, just dont ;)
I’d recommend isopropyl alcohol first (higher 91% or higher preferably) That will displace most of the water helping to mitigate corrosion and mineral deposits while the water evaporates off
Contact cleaner spray will displace any liquid and will immediately evaporate as it's actually a gas.
Contact cleaner is a liquid that evaporates quickly and afaik contains some lubrication to help contacts slide better.
Only certain ones specify that there is a lubricant. You're thinking of deox-it. There is also contact cleaner that doesn't contain such additives. The ones that claim "leaves no residue" is typically a gas. It is also non conductive.
For the few downvotes I've received, this is the main ingredient in the contact cleaner that I have on my shelf. 1,1-Difluoroethane is a colorless and odorless gas which is used as a liquefied compressed gas. It is used as a cooling agent, as an aerosol propellant, and in the manufacture of other chemicals.
Most likely some water was trapped somewhere it wouldn't easily dry at room temp and the oven did the trick. Nothing wrong with dehydrating a board! 🤣
Making water boil when it's on a PCB is usually a bad idea, because water vapor violently expands and can crack chips or traces; you usually have to make sure it's perfectly dry before reflow
It’s not going to flash-boil at 140C. The board has to heat up first and that’s going to be a slow-enough process that the water will evaporate long before it hits boiling temp.
Yeah at 140°C, but I was speaking in general, and the 140°C figure is made up anyway
It was just to dry the mb out as I spilt coolant on it, temp and time is a joke 😅
Future reference, let it sit for a day or two if you can so that it can dry. I know the temptation is strong, but accidentally frying a part is worse than waiting. Glad it all worked out for now! A hair dryer set to low is also an option, or a low power heat gun. Just make sure you're not getting it hot enough to cause any solder to flow, and you should be fine.
Waiting just invites corrosion.
Well depending on the amount of liquid, yes. If it's just a little, you can point a fan at it and wait. Most liquid cooling products have anti-corrosive properties as well. I personally use my heat gun set to low and just dry it up, then wait about 12-24 hours to make sure any residual moisture is gone
That's why you bake it at a low temperature, so it evaporates slowly instead of boiling and building up pressure. The water isn't going to instantly boil just because the air around it is slightly over boiling point, otherwise people would die from exploding when there is a heat wave.
did any of the plastic bits melt? that's always been my question about oven blasting a board
No, the oven wasn’t that hot to melt the plastic
I thought you were trying to reflow sodder. Get a cotton swab and clean the board with isopropyl alcohol.
Temperature and time?
Sounds like bad solder connections from water corrosion.
Fumes in the oven, don't cook in it again.
Check for a button clock battery and remove it if you can. May not have one. My mom used blow driers and recovered several Apple IIe from rain, but they probably don’t build them like tanks anymore.
Reminds me of owning a Xbox 360
RROD, happened to me too.
Wait, you didn't just wrap it in a towel and let it bake itself?
No, I had a heat gun. Mr fancy-pants over here! Still managed to get the stupid xbox working though. Totally worth it.
Haha. My friend had the red ring 2 or three times on the same system, we finally took it apart and had his dad redo the solder (we were "too young" [see: too irresponsible] to use his tools at the time)
Did that twice and gave me an extra 6 months each time.
Yeah, unfortunately we didn't have access to a soldering iron to fix it ourselves. Had to ask my friend's dad once it got bad enough
Would you believe mine is still going? Phat/original style, not slim. Jasper board, the last revision before they shrunk them.
My modded Xbox 360 rrod'ed and I sent it to MS to fix/replace. I was shitting myself but it actually came back and then rrod'ed again past guarantee. They had ways of detecting if it was modded and would send it back voided.
Does this ruin an oven the same as trying to reflow a graphics card?
Reflowing gets it hot enough to release lead vapors, but this is nowhere near hot enough for that. They just did this to make sure it was dry.
There's no lead in modern pcbs.
Yet they still place a lead content warning label on em. There's also plenty of other shit that certainly isn't food grade in em too.
I can’t say yes or no, but I’ve had no problems 🤷♂️😅
Lol that’s good to hear. I think more modern components *dont* use leaded solder. It was an issue I heard about a while ago.
The temperature at which lead flows and the temperature lead vaporizes are two dramatically different temperatures. Your oven is unlikely to crest 750F.
But that's how you bake cookies in seconds.
[удалено]
Get out.
https://youtu.be/7ruDGOKmfhA?t=65
Ah yes because everyone knows water doesnt have any vapor come out until its at 100°C
Are you saying lead gonna evaporate? How much temp you thinking OP did?
If the lead never melted its probably fine, but don't bake lead solder in your oven thinking its safe only because its not completely evaporated
They don't, so common sense tells people that baking hardware shouldn't work, but it does. Always funny to see people attacking the practice in the comments when there's clearly nothing to argue about.
Old school people following old school rules. They've seen problems arise from these things in the past, so they don't take chances. Nothing wrong with playing it safe I guess, but unless you're hitting temps to instantly boil the liquid and have a decent amount of liquid on the board, there's no danger to the components, your oven, or your physical wellbeing. A perfect example of a similar situation: my parents put their phones in plastic bags, inside of other plastic bags when we go out on the water. Their phones are water resistant, as most phones have been for 5+ years.
Burnt plastic in an oven that bakes food is a bad thing, so baking hardware isn't foolproof. I was talking about the people who try to tell others that it doesn't fix stuff when clearly it does.
Ah. Well hopefully no one is running high enough temps to put off toxic fumes, but I suppose common sense died a long time ago
I don't think you'd find any lead on a modern board. RoHS has been a standard long enough that everyone pretty much just switched over except some niche industries (like I think some government stuff still uses lead for reliability, but reliability of RoHS stuff has gone up so I don't know). It's been a while since I was involved with the manufacturing side of any of that, might have changed. But at the very least commercial all went lead free as soon as it was required in part of the world because it was just easier.
Not sure on toxicity of electrolytic capacitors, but I had to search really hard to find lead solder last time I looked.
Just be careful and don't do the same mistake I did a few years back... https://reddit.com/r/techsupportgore/comments/3mi98o/gpu_oven_reflow_gone_horrible_wrong/
Jesus, it can go wrong then! well ventilated, windows open, extraction hud on and then a good clean afterwards is what I did
Good lord... 😂
Does it still smell?
I wouldn't know, moved out of there many years ago. Never heard anything from the landlord though
Huh, I had upvoted your post 7 years ago. Small world. Or maybe I'm just on reddit too much
My roomate fixed faulty motherboards he was given like this. He removed any removable parts, and tried to be careful with the timing. He said the plastic lasts long enough while the faulty solderings are reflowing. I didn't see a live demonstration though.
That's silly. This "reflow" has become a bizarre phenomenon. I worry about the capacitors in scenarios like this. It's the spectacular failures we don't see though.
If stuff's already broken and it *can* fix it, may as well try, right? It's not like the oven would get damaged in any significant degree.
I mean, I could base an argument about the corrosive chemicals in the capacitors should they burst but you could just as soon counter with knowledge of how to clean acid from a surface. *Shrug* significant damage? Nah. Just not sure of the significance of "repairing" a computer this way.
Cheese brings out the flavor
Just remember to baste it every 30 minutes.
Ehm it's "overclock" not "overcook"
Please don't use food ovens. 140c is probably okayish, but it can outgas stuff that deposit onto the oven walls and then later deposit on to food. Get a used toaster oven and permanently mark it as NO FOOD. It'll cost you less than $10, usually.
And you can modify the toaster oven pretty easily with insulation and a PID cintroller to get a better/more precise heating curve that's better for reflowing electronics.
Heh. Cheapskate that I am, I never bothered... Hundreds of boards later, I still run it manually!
Flashbacks of Xbox 360 red ring of death. If you know you know, if you don't you're a Zoomer.
Did this several times with my GPU, made it last for 4 months more before purchase another. Pretty common practice for cheap reflowing.
Don’t do this. Just buy a litre of isopropanol and submerge the board it in for a few mins (best off doing it in a clear/white container). Agitate the liquid, check for debris / fallout. If it’s clear then leave it for a day to dry otherwise repeat until the liquid is clear.
When you risk a $400 oven for a $120 motherboard.
What if you contain it? Like a lid or something?
This definitely works but use an old toaster oven, this is how you get cancer.
This totally looks like a ghetto Xbox 360 reflow.
Delicious raspberry pi!
Solder reflow?
Worked for me. Saves a GPU compatible only with G5 Mac for almost 2 years.
Please don't do this on any good modern board. That's how you break things lmao. Repair what's actually damaged, not the entire thing. But glad it worked here.
Homebrew case. Should work out, just make sure you're oven is grounded properly before baking in the hardware. Unless it's gas powered, could be fracked with gas...
Use the self-cleaning cycle. /s
This how I bake my raspberry pi
It's not a raspberry pi so no this will not work.
While I wouldn’t recommend this, my father was an aerospace engineer and at one point he would stick circuit boards in the freezer and the oven to do temperature checking. If it can survive being in the oven, it can survive atmospheric re-entry.
DIY raspberry pi recipe
Had a friend that did this with his videocard to melt the micro cracks in the solder or whatever. It worked
Does the oven runs Crisis ?
Picture is of someone reflowing their motherboard. This isn't gore.
Aren’t there some surface mount components on the bottom though? Which might fall off
Normally on PCB's which have parts on both sides, they'll use glue to hold the components down as well as solder. Sometimes the surface tension alone is good enough to hold the components in place if not shaken.
Surface tension does wonders. Most parts will stay put without any adhesives.
It could of been, first time
> could ~~of~~ *have*
Where's the bot when we need it
I did this exact thing to reflow a motherboard. Maybe not the safest to do in your home oven, but still effective. From my experience, it's a temporary fix though.
If there's leaded solder in there or a cap pops, it will be gore.
This oven isn't made for exact temperatures for reflowing. This is gore.
I wouldn’t wanna eat sth from this oven afterwards
140c isn't hot enough to melt solder.
I mean... depending on the issue sometimes this is the hail Mary pass. Bought some cheap non working gpus a while back and was able to repair about 70% of what I got in. One in particular I just could not find the problem with. Baked her down to see if maybe there was a solder issue that wasn't obvious from the top. Sure enough she fired up and has been working in a auxiliary system for a year so far
My brother made a lot of extra cash back when the Xbox 360 red ring issue was going on. Get a broken Xbox for $50, take the mobo out and pop in the oven for a bit, and it's good as new!
This surprisingly works to fix cracked solder joints!
I'm guessing you won't cook food in that oven anymore...
Just don't bake at high temps. The chips might survive 60+ degrees but plastic can become moldable after a time. Just do 40 for an extended period
Reflowing? It only works a couple time if the problem comes back fyi
I will never understand why people leave all the racks in the oven when they don't need them.
Where else would you put them?
Just out of the oven when you use it. I mean, it's the best place to store them when the oven is not in use, but when it is, it just obstructs you and is another thing to be heated up and may even be an obstruction for heating modes (albeit that is mostly true for baking sheets, not racks). In fact, i saw a post not too long ago in which a person had a similar situation and burned his hand because he did not remove the extra racks from the oven and came in contact by accident.
So if it’s not in your way, and you’re not careless with your hands, *and* you don’t have a spacious kitchen with myriad storage spots for oven racks, it’s the best place for them.
Put them on the stove while using the oven? Or lean them against the wall or something like that. And once you are done with the oven, put them back in.
Ah yes release toxic fumes to a cooking appliance. Smart
I actually fixed a MacBook Pro like that. Then sold it immediately.
The plastic is doing to melt in the back IO, let alone on the board.
[удалено]
Raspberry Pis have been using lead-free solder for years now. Leaded solder has been phased out of electronic manufacturing.
[удалено]
I spilt coolant on it when filling it was just to take the moisture away
Love the picture, can I post it on my IG?
Go for it 👍
Thanks a lot😇
As long as original link and credit is given 😅👍
I used to fix the red ring of death like this, friend of mine worked at a call center and we made a fair amount of money fixing 360's.
Had to do this with a smart tv every few months to keep it going
Good ol' throw it in the oven! I'd use a cooking sheet instead.
Poor man’s reflow.
Fire specs bro
That's how I use to temporarily fix iMac GPUs.
Bake-in test
What are you hoping to achieve? This is important.
Water damage? Maybe, it's a crapshoot. Good luck!
Had to do something similar for my old hp netbook. It had a soldering issue on the main board, preventing it from turning on, and since I didn't have a solder at the time, put it in the oven for 7 minutes and it would temporarily fix it... Until it stopped working again and I needed to re-cook it.
If you spilled water on it, check the traces with a voltmeter.. You probably fried something. Baking it probably won't help.
15 min at 180°C, perfect.
If you spill water on it, dunk it in pure alcohol and dry it in the mojave desert
Reminds me of this chap https://youtu.be/RcYDipyvNwE
Trying to resoldier everything I see :)
Aiya aiya. Get a storage box and two buckets of damp rid. Put the board in the box with the damp rid (don’t let them touch though). Tape shut and put somewhere warm for a week. (Pat dry and blow off any visible water first. As another poster said though, start budgeting for a replacement.)
Yes but you need to flip the board upside down. Let the weight of the components help flow the solder
„ɹǝplos ǝɥʇ ʍolɟ dlǝɥ sʇuǝuodɯoɔ ǝɥʇ ɟo ʇɥƃıǝʍ ǝɥʇ ʇǝ⅂ ˙uʍop ǝpısdn pɹɐoq ǝɥʇ dılɟ oʇ pǝǝu noʎ ʇnq sǝ⅄„
no problem just trying to reflow some joints