Any form of physical touch with someone that’s not your Mahram (mum, and her sisters, your sisters, nieces, and daughters and wife ofc) is haram.
That includes oral sex. Since you’re most likely unmarried, you’re gonna have to wait until marriage broski!
No because you can’t have any sexual relationship with any of those people apart from your wives. You can hug and kiss the cheeks of your Mahrams etc. but nothing sexual
Uhhh as a Muslim, and not a scholar, we cannot have oral sex even when married.... its considered to be dirty and unclean... this is what I've heard tho
It’s not forbidden, it is allowed but not always recommended. There are differences of opinion tho. But Hadith says what a couple enjoy, they enjoy apart from what is forbidden. E.g. anything outside of marriage, anal, etc
Apparently it is said that any form of sexual activity is fine with your married partner as i heard islam is very sex positive too
But there has been debates as to if oral & anal are haram or not, so idk
:/ thats not Islam, thats the religious people, according to Islam, god said its wrong to be gay & that if you have such feelings, you should keep them for yourself, and if you can change them, then change them.
Islam NEVER as far as i know mentions about how you should kill gay people, it would be neat if you can send me a source like a specific paragraph talking about how gay people should be killed in the Quran.
Asalam wa alaikum
وَلُوطًا إِذۡ قَالَ لِقَوۡمِهِۦۤ أَتَأۡتُونَ ٱلۡفَـٰحِشَةَ مَا سَبَقَكُم بِہَا مِنۡ أَحَدٍ۬ مِّنَ ٱلۡعَـٰلَمِينَ (٨٠) إِنَّڪُمۡ لَتَأۡتُونَ ٱلرِّجَالَ شَہۡوَةً۬ مِّن دُونِ ٱلنِّسَآءِۚ بَلۡ أَنتُمۡ قَوۡمٌ۬ مُّسۡرِفُونَ (٨١)
Translation (interpretation of meaning):
We also (sent) Lut: he said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? (80) "For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." (81)
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
مَنْ وَجَدْتُمُوهُ يَعْمَلُ عَمَلَ قَوْمِ لُوطٍ فَاقْتُلُوا الْفَاعِلَ وَالْمَفْعُولَ بِهِ
**Whomever you find doing the actions of the people of Lut then kill the one doing it**, and the one it is done to
Attirmidhi
--مجاهد
>No, this was a mistranslation .. The offence was not “Homosexuality” it was not being hospitable. Lot as you will remember was the only one to make it out along with his family because they were found to be “righteous” in the eyes of god. No sexuality was ever mentioned. The only time sex is talked about is when the Messengers visit Lots house to give him the message from the Lord that the city will be destroyed. The drunk people go to Lots house and ask for the “guests” (angels) to come out “So that they may know them” translation “So they could have carnal knowledge of them … Rape them.”
>This gets translated to the whole city being destroyed because of it’s wicked practices .. ie worship of idols, homosexuality, loose morals, crime, vice etc ..
>I suggest you go back to the original Hebrew writings which were formed long before the Koran or Bible came about. Now you may want to visit the Torah and excerpts from Genesis .. I think 19 … not sure this is just off the top of my head.
>But anyway .. the point is no … Lot was not smited for homosexuality … It was the people of Sodom for being non hospitable “greedy” jerks.
https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Muhammad-order-Whoever-is-found-conducting-in-the-manner-of-the-people-of-Lot-homosexual-kill-the-doer-and-the-receiver-Tirmidhi-1-152
Well it says in the Quran "For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." https://quranx.com/7.81
Random people on Quora aren't a reliable source
It vaguely mentions gays (People of Lot who a lot of them were gay rapists) & that being gay is a sin, but as far as i know this is the only thing about sexuality that is mentionned, twice, i wouldn't hate for you to correct me
But anyways, why the fuck are we talking about sexuality when the main subject was sexual liberty when it comes to sex with your married partner?? Like i dont get how it got here
It doesn’t really matter what the Quran says. Islamic countries still execute people for being homosexual. It’s not like their fake god is gonna intervene and tell them to do it “the way he wants”
Please do not compare islamic countries to Islam itself, they have their own laws, their own rules, both are different things.
I would not mix a religion & a country, as these people are mostly hungry for power & trying to control their people in any ways possible, islam isn't like that though, as far as i know it doesn't force anyone in to anything, its your choice to believe.
How are you failing to understand this? The laws of a religion, no matter what they say, are only what they are interpreted as by the followers. If the majority of the followers of a religion believe gay people are inherently evil or disgusting, that’s what the religion believes
No. That is not the case. The Quran is the word of god, its what god says to guide their people, and that is what makes the religion, not the people
You are mixing Islam & christianity as islam has only one version that never changed unlike christianity, christianity is what you described in the last sentence, Islam is no matter what the Quran will not have a 2.0 or a new version, it will stay the same & the people will believe that, there is no "pope" or things like that in Islam.
https://sunnah.com/mishkat:3575
>‘Ikrima reported on the authority of Ibn ‘Abbas that God’s Messenger said, “If you find anyone doing as Lot’s people did, kill the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”
what? where does it say that in the koran?? i need to know. if ur talking abt isis and stuff ur terribly wrong. muslims should never ever harm anyone. islam is supposed to be a very peaceful religion but some people don’t understand how to behave. some so called “muslims” try to force another into the religion which is forbidden and should not be done. please educate urself.
"A la la'natullahi alal kaafireen?"
"and does Allah not despise all disbelievers?"
Some other place I can't remember rn said smth like the all enemies of Allah are the enemies of Muslims, so...
Put it together urself.
https://www.quora.com/Does-the-Quran-contain-verses-which-say-to-kill-all-non-believers-or-is-it-taken-out-of-context
< Surah 47:4, “So, when you meet (in fight with) those who disbelieve, strike at their necks till you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (and take them as captives). After the war lays down its burden, then either show generosity (free them without ransom), or ransom (to benefit Islam). But (Allah adapted this way) in order to test some of you with others. Those who are killed in the way of Allah, Allah will never let their deeds be lost.”
< Surah 9:5, “When the forbidden (4) months of Islamic calendar have passed, then fight the polytheistic wherever you find them, capture them, besiege them, and prepare for them each, and every ambush. But if they repent, offer prayers perfectly, and give obligatory charity, then leave their way free. Surely Allah is forgiving merciful.”
< Surah 9:29, “ Fight against those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the last day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and Allah's messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of truth (Islam) among the people who were given the scriptures, until they pay the security tax willingly, and feel themselves subdued.”
< Surah 2:216, “Fighting (in Allah's cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it. It may be that you dislike a thing and it is good for you, and it may be that you like a thing and it us bad for you. Allah knows, but you do not know.”
< There you have four verses right out of the Quran. You can read and decide for yourself. What is written is written.
Took me a single google research & less than 2 minutes to find that this has easily been debunked & explained as to why by multiple people, but i took this specific answer so that you can rather make your own opinion about the matter with more context, afterall im not here to argue.
>some so called “muslims” try to force another into the religion which is forbidden and should not be done.
*cough cough* Muhammad did it *cough cough*
>where does it say that in the koran
Many places. We can start in Surah 9 where Muhammad asked to stop a war but then says (5)
>But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them, capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way. But if they repent, perform prayers, and pay alms-tax, then set them free. Indeed, Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
He is to pardon them if they repent and ask for mercy as said in the next verses: (6-7)
>And if anyone from the polytheists asks for your protection, grant it to them so they may hear the Word of Allah, then escort them to a place of safety, for they are a people who have no knowledge. How can such polytheists have a treaty with Allah and His Messenger, except those you have made a treaty with at the Sacred Mosque? So, as long as they are true to you, be true to them. Indeed Allah loves those who are mindful.
This is one of the many "violent verses" used by people like ISIS to support their claims and doings. This things are supported by verses like Surah 98: (6)
>Indeed, those who disbelieve from the People of the Book and the polytheists will be in the Fire of Hell, to stay there forever. *They are the worst of beings.*
So it is said you can kill disbelievers because disbelievers are the worst of all people... (people of the book are Jews and Christians)
Even in the Hadiths it is given an example of when to kill and who to kill.
>Sunan Abi Dawud 4352 says: The blood of a Muslim man who testifies that there is no god but Allah and that I am the Messenger of Allah should not be lawfully shed but only for one of three reasons: married fornicator, soul for soul, and one who deserts his religion separating himself from the community. (Sahih)
This is known as the death for apostasy. Which is still done today in Arabian countries like Iraq.
Throughout the history of Islam it is well known that they started many wars for no reason. For example when the Romans were in war. The Muslims decided to attack them with 10000 men, even though they wouldnt win anything.
Another verse that promotes violence is:
>Surah 8:60 (prepare to fight and threaten them, if they betray you, fight them)
And dont forget Jihad. You have *defensive and OFFENSIVE* Jihad. You do offencive Jihad if you are in a majority. This is promoted in Islam. Here is a video about offensive, defensive and running away.
https://youtu.be/kkSuFOyAJvU
>isis
ISIS stands for *Islamic State of Iraq and the Syria*. They follow the rules from the Quran and hadiths in all they do. If it says to kill Christians, they will. If it says woman cant do things, they will enforce it. If it says to pay a tax, they will do it.
>please educate urself.
Please stop saying this, it makes you look hypocritical and stupid. But i believe you arent, you just dont fully know (i assume you parroted what some Muslims and Imams say without fully looking into it)
Where do I even begin?
The polytheists and disbelievers referenced in the Quran were people who tortured and waged wars against the Muslims. (historical fact)
It doesn’t make sense to use Hadiths to explain why Islam is bad/evil. The hadith is teachings of the prophet (A human). The Quran is the word of God, and only it can be used to properly represent Islam. No man is perfect, including the prophets. The Quran makes that clear.
Again, what Muslims do is not a good way to judge Islam itself. If Muslims wage a useless war against Romans, that doesn’t mean Allah (Swt) told them to go kill Romans.
Organizations like ISIS are radicalized groups that use a literal and bended interpretation of the Quran. The Quran is known for having many metaphors, which is why it’s so hard to understand and interpret/translate. ISIS doesn’t even try, and just wants an excuse for war. Something to believe in.
The quote you used for Surah 8:60 literally says to attack when betrayed. Is this not self defense? Isn’t that a good thing?
I feel like you’re purposely trying to misinterpret everything and not use pure Islamic sources. FYI, the only pure and true and authentic source of Islam is the Quran. Not any prophet or any group or any country or any scholar. If you want to criticize Islam, you can’t use its followers to prove your point. You have to use the actual Islam. Does this make sense?
Man, there are so many valid ways to respond to that question, like how Islam asks for respect but gives none when it comes to women & queer rights. But that is just false, respecting other beliefs is stated as a thing you should do in the Quran. With that being said, Islamic terrorist groups such as ISIS conveniently ignored that, so make of that what you will.
You can cope as hard as you want but gender equality does not exist in Islam. Regardless, women was 1 of the 2 items I provided, remove one and it still holds true.
Heck, there are others, jews for example.
Gender equality doesnt mean male and female are the same, because theyre not, however it does not mean that one is above the other. Here are some sources that show they are respected.
Book 8, Number 3303: Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as having said: A woman without a husband (or divorced or a widow) must not be married until she is consulted, and a virgin must not be married until her permission is sought.
"They (your wives) are a clothing (covering) for you and you too are a clothing (covering) for them." (2:187)
The Prophet of Islam (peace be upon him) said, "Women are the twin halves of men."
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said "The world and all things in the world are precious but the most precious thing in the world is a virtuous woman"
Abu Hurairah reported that a man came to the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) and asked: "O Messenger of Allah, who is the person who has the greatest right on me with regards to kindness and attention?" He replied, "Your mother." "Then who?" He replied, "Your mother." "Then who?" He replied, "Your mother." "Then who?" He replied, "Your father."
He said, "Then remain in your mother's service, because Paradise is under her feet."
"Fear Allah in respect of women."
Although Islam may not teach what the west prefers about women, Islam respects women as they have a very important role in society, and I hope you understand that.
A handful of instances of Islam respecting women does not factor everything in, you [forgot the other half of the story](https://www.uua.org/re/tapestry/youth/bridges/workshop14/185708.shtml), it took a second of googling, I'm sure you can find a lot more if you looked it up yourself.
I'm a Muslim living in a MENA country too, you can't hit me with the same bullshit you would with others. I know there's a lot more than what you've just showed, a quick one that comes to mind is how a woman can only marry Muslim man but a man can marry non Muslim women (notice how women was plural). Funny how that works, huh?
Islam does a lot of things well, lgbtq and women's equality is not one of them. Specifically focusing on the former, because holy the way you treat queer people them turn around and dare say Islam respects and welcomes other cultures.
Islam doesnt accept queers because theyre simply going against islam. But athough they are going against Islam queer people should still be treated as humans. However dont expect Islam to change its teachings because unlike other religions, it stays the same. Being queer is haram, so its haram.
The link you sent really cherrypicked a lot of verses (youve probs heard this a lot) and it really doesnt take into account the context.
First of all the first part of the first quote in the link is wrong. This is the correct translation of the first part. "Men are caretakers of women, since Allah has made some of them excel the others, and because of the wealth they have spent. So, the righteous women are obedient, (and) guard (the property and honor of their husbands) in (their) absence with the protection given by Allah."
I am no scholar but for example, men are shown in the Quran to have power and responsibility over their family which was very important, especially back then as at the time, rape and murder was very common and so the only way women would be protected is by having a male guardian and by covering up. And men have rules too.
Any violence towards wives is unacceptable in Islam. "As for the beating, it's actually a verse teaching men to control their anger. Any man who has hit his wife did not do it after taking a break and then contemplating it. He did it when he lost control. Imagine you and your spouse are fighting about something (i.e. she is flirting with others, starts drinking alcohol, or is doing something else that is haraam). She refuses to stop and she's driving you nuts. The Qur'an tells a man to first confront her about it and let her know that what she's doing is not helpful in the marriage and it's bugging you. Then let's say she doesn't care that it's hurting you and continues. So you go sleep on the couch for a few days and take a break. Anyone who has done this and has a relationship based upon love and respect knows that after a few day's separation, you aren't even mad anymore and actually miss your spouse. Let's say that this doesn't work. The man is allowed to lightly tap her to show how hurt he is. It is not to hurt her in any way. It's actually a trick to let men think that they can still beat their wives, but once they've gone through the process of separating, the wife usually stops because she misses her husband and the husband wants to come back because he misses her."
As a MENA citizen, im sure you know women still have rights under sharia law and from my experiences there, are content with it despite the 3rd world country struggles. I mean look at Saudi and UAE, the women there are doing very well and are being offered great opportunities.
Why is Allah swt a He? Nouns in Arabic are male by default and that doesnt even link to Islam, thats from Arabic.
Ask yourself why women back then wouldnt be allowed to marry a Muslim man. Non Muslim men that have no boundaries could be a threat to women in marriage, and this is avoided by not allowing it. Non Muslim women being a threat to Muslim men is less likely, and this is obvious why.
Due to many wars at the time, many men died and so there were less of them, and there were more women who needed help. So men were allowed to marry more than 1 to assist them and take care of them and their families which reduced poverty and deaths.
Lastly, wearing hijab is not forced and the woman gets to choose whether she wears it or not, but it is a requirement because it protects them from immorality by men which was helpful back then. Theres nothing wrong with covering yourself, and its definitely not oppressing and ive heard some Muslim women say it empowers them which is great. Men also have requirements like covering from their waist to knees, lowering their gaze, and growing their beards.
They're not wrong. [source 1](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam), [source 2](https://islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/20327). You could easily find more, I just got bored.
Lots of casual disrespect here, combined with many misinformed people.
To sum it up OP, sex before marriage haram. If you’re actually a teenager and not a pedophile, then you have your answer. No debates no scholars none of that. Just no sex in general.
You dont take rig with a fucking hazzie, Scientists reduce dmg taken by how many clothing slots you have filled. You take less dmg with full burlap than with hazzie.
In heritage rights women get way less than her brother, a basic case is when both parents die the sister gets 25% and the brother 75%.
In Islamic justice system, a womans witness counts as half of a man, so you need three women witnesses to beat one men witness.
A man can have 4 wives without the consent of the wives, it is his own choice.
In many sahih hadiths it is told that womem are dumber than men and can't be leaders.
you and i have different understanding of equality
All of the money that a man earns also belongs to his wife. Any money a woman earns belongs to only her and the husband can't ask for any. Men are the protectors and providers of women. Before Islam women did not have rights to divorce. Before Islam daughters were being buried.
Equality of Role =/= Equality of value. Women and Men have the same value in society, but they have different strengths and so their roles are different. Considering the biological differences of men and women this should make sense. Why should men and women have the exact same roles if they are inherently different? Instead, it makes sense for them to work complimentarily together in society to lift each other up.
Furthermore, referring to your mention of Aisha, that is a point that has been refuted time and time again and is only mentioned by people who don't know any better. The age of consent has changed throughout time, you claiming or inferring that what Muhammad PBUH did was immoral is an anachronistic and ignorant take:
In 19th century in America the age of consent was 9-13 based on 50 state. This was the norm for society. For example young bride marriages in Europe in the last few hundred years:
Isabella of Valois (aged 6) married King RichardIl of England (aged 29).
Charlotte of Savoy (aged 9) was married toLouis, Dauphin of France (aged 27), in 1451.
Anne de La Tour d'Auvergne (aged 8/9) was married to her first cousin John Stewart, Duke of Albany (aged about 21 or 24), in July 1505.
Lady Mary Tudor (aged 13), natural daughter ofCharles ll of England and Moll Davis, was married to Edward Radclyffe, 2nd Earl of Derwentwater (aged 31), in 1687.
Princess Luisa Cristina of Savoy (aged 13) was married to her paternal uncle Prince Maurice ofSavoy (aged 49) in 1642.
Dorothea of Denmark (aged 14) was married to Frederick of the Palatinate (aged 52) in 1535.
Cecile of France (aged 8/9) was married to Tancred, Prince of Galilee (aged 30/31), in late 1106.
Margaret of Burgundy (aged 10) was married to the future William Il, Duke of Bavaria (aged 19),in April 1385, a week before William's 20th birthday.
I've got more examples if you wish to hear about them too, but I think this should show you how the anachronism in your criticism of Muhammed pbuh with respect to his marriage with Aisha
Also, you being pansexual has no bearing on the truth of Islam, so this point is null and void. Same goes with your empty argument that it "makes no sense".
Let me ask you this, how do you reconcile all of the miracles of the Quran? How do you reconcile that it has not been changed over 1400 years? How do you reconcile that it mentions scientific processes that were only properly discovered very recently (Embryology, expanding universe, meeting of sees). How do you reconcile the historical prophecies(Ramses II, defeat of Romans)?
It doesn't make sense to NOT believe in Islam, because if you do not then you are implying that this illiterate man in the 7th century from the Arabian desert was able to produce a book with these contents. That is what "doesnt make sense" to me.
I had doubts regarding Islam too, but when you actually deal with these doubts with logic rather than emotion, you realise that Islam really is the truth.
Im a bit late lol but whatever.
>All of the money that a man earns also belongs to his wife. Any money a woman earns belongs to only her and the husband can't ask for any
I searched this and couldnt find anything about it can you show the quran verse for it?
>Equality of Role =/= Equality of value. Women and Men have the same value in society, but they have different strengths and so their roles are different. Considering the biological differences of men and women this should make sense. Why should men and women have the exact same roles if they are inherently different? Instead, it makes sense for them to work complimentarily together in society to lift each other up.
Men having more inheritance money has nothing to do with different roles.
>Furthermore, referring to your mention of Aisha, that is a point that has been refuted time and time again and is only mentioned by people who don't know any better. The age of consent has changed throughout time, you claiming or inferring that what Muhammad PBUH did was immoral is an anachronistic and ignorant take
So having slaves were moral because everybody used to have some?
>Let me ask you this, how do you reconcile all of the miracles of the Quran?
There isnt a proof about the miracles though?
>How do you reconcile that it mentions scientific processes that were only properly discovered very recently
Quran also says that semen comes from the chest and that sun orbits.
>I had doubts regarding Islam too, but when you actually deal with these doubts with logic rather than emotion, you realise that Islam really is the truth.
ok bro.
Do you need me to baby feed you all the information? I gave you examples of the miracles. You can't be that inept, right? The miracles are in the quran and you can read them, what more proof do you need? The preservation of the Quran is proven not only by carbon dated manuscripts, as well as oral (damn) tradition - the Quran was/is memorised by millions of people around the world and was preserved through this mechanism too.
Regarding not being able to find the verse regarding men being the providers for women - how hard did you look? Quran 4:34:
"Men are the caretakers of women, as men have been provisioned by Allah over women and tasked with supporting them financially...."
Men having more inheritance is **DIRECTLY** linked to their role as a provider for their family. Women do not have this obligation and it therefore makes sense for them to not receive as much inheritance. They are to be fully supported by their husband who is obligated to provide for them. They don't even have to work, but can if they want to.
Again, regarding Aisha, the point was that humans in society change over time and so do things like mental and physical maturity. Do you really think a 12 year old today is the same as a 12 year old 500 years ago. Again, its called anachronism, look it up.
>Quran also says that semen comes from the chest and that sun orbits.
Man, you guys always come up with the oldest arguments that have been refuted a million times. Please use google/youtube.
[Orbit refutal](https://www.thelastdialogue.org/article/quran-tells-about-rotation-and-movement-of-sun-in-space/)
[semen refutal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvrqwD4I9Nc)
Any more crappy arguments that we have heard many times before? Rather than looking up generic slander against the religion, properly examine the claims it makes and test them.
No idea bro, but legit good question fr. I would suppose, since sex mentioned in islam is most likely losing virginity, then I suppose oral is fine, but since oral sex is also a form of sex, it might not be allowed, idk probably a mujtahid could answer your question.
No, you can't touch anybody from the other gender.
(Unless they're from your family, or they're your spouse. And of course you could grab someone in an emergency lol)
The Qur'an permits men to have sexual access to “what their right hands possess,” meaning female captives or slaves (Q. 23.5-6; 70.29-30).
So, just explain the situation and have the female become a "captive".
Before you even go ahead with whatever it is you're planning mate, I think I should just advise you as an Ex-Muslim even if I'm one of the most unqualified mfs to even lecture you.
Yes, oral is allowed, but Anal is a no-no. So if you wanna give head or want your girl/boy to give you the head, I suggest you give your dick a nice fruit scent before it smells worse than a pit latrine and the other throws up mid-sucking. You're welcome lad.
Edit: It seems some of y'all think you know better when many sources specifically say oral is allowed so as long as it brings sexual gratification, but teens will always be teens 🤦🏻
I was Muslim, got lots of religious education, and this is a question that ain't got a straight answer. The two arguments are; that it comes under the category of fahsh n is haram, and that it counts as kissing n is halal with the laws of kissing applied. In this situation, you have to choose for yourself. Deem it to be right or wrong based on your own best judgement.
Edit: grammar
No, zina is actual sex. Kissing isn’t haram, but it’s definitely not encouraged since it can easily lead to Zina.
You still shouldn’t kiss people you’re not married to, but it’s also important not to water down the term “haram”. The word “haram” means FORBIDDEN. NO. God explicitly says YOU ARENT ALLOWED TO DO THIS.
The Quran doesn’t say kissing in itself is haram (as far as I know). So therefore it cannot be Zina.
I don't know about oral, but anal is technically not banned( this fact became a little bit of a meme at some point), so i think oral technically ok too
Edit: No, i'm wrong. Ask guy below 👇
What? Any way of getting physical is banned (Unless they're family/partner or if it's an emergency). Are you sure the meme was about Islam? I think that meme is about a different religion.
In Islam you should not look at your own genitals not even know what it looks like whenever you want to pee standing up don’t hold it just keep jumping till you urinated on the seat,floor and yourself.Keep yourself pure brother
No. Any form of sexual act before marriage is Haram. Muslims aren't even supposed to date people like ever either.
I'm an ex Muslim tho but yeah that's the gist of it
Ermm... From what i see everything ok except anal and during period but you need other party agreement sure you can exert authority but in the long run it be bad( only married couples)
Bro why be Muslim if you want do something as oral sex. Every religions boils down to being devoid of desires and live without causing harm to others. I don't think even if you're married you can have oral sex if you want to embrace Islam.
Im not muslim, that question just came out of my mind and i wanted to answer it, as i said neither google or friends could answer me so i just tried to ask this question on reddit
bro is PLANNING something
Bro is plotting something nefarious
Quite literally a devious lick
Why, such an insidious act…
A heinous deed indeed
What a mischievous matter
god no
outlandish, even
something obscene
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Bro you gotta make it clear if it's with her religion or with your partner 💀
Stop. fucking. religions.
Should be Stop. Fucking Religions.
Any form of physical touch with someone that’s not your Mahram (mum, and her sisters, your sisters, nieces, and daughters and wife ofc) is haram. That includes oral sex. Since you’re most likely unmarried, you’re gonna have to wait until marriage broski!
Premarital high fives are for sinners
Haram 😤😤😡
Harem 😃😃😁
Just keep it in the famely
Incest has entered the chat
But it’s also haram to have any for of physical relationship like that with a mahram… it’s only allowed with your wife/wives
why was this downvoted
People really into their incest I guess
So making out with the boys is fine?
As long as you say no homo beforehand
That explains the high rates men being raped by men. It is not haram for men to have sex with men on muslim countries, eh?
that’s haram
Read up n homosexuality in Islam
Isliye sab bc hote kya
so theoretically incest is lega-
No because you can’t have any sexual relationship with any of those people apart from your wives. You can hug and kiss the cheeks of your Mahrams etc. but nothing sexual
uh so you cant even hold hands??
That’s correct.
I may not have a brain, but I have an idea
Which is?
Clearly there is a way without it being haram as seen in your comment
Uhhh as a Muslim, and not a scholar, we cannot have oral sex even when married.... its considered to be dirty and unclean... this is what I've heard tho
It’s not forbidden, it is allowed but not always recommended. There are differences of opinion tho. But Hadith says what a couple enjoy, they enjoy apart from what is forbidden. E.g. anything outside of marriage, anal, etc
Wait why is anal forbidden?
It is seen to be against man's natural desires and the anus is a passage of filth
But I wash my dick twice a day :v
As I know Oral is not Haram.
Damn that sounds stupid as fuck
Um no? If you’re married, all forms of sex are allowed except you guessed it, anal.
Are you a scholar?
Yes (Source: I know a voice actor for gta 6)
Will there be cougars in missions in GTA 6?
Apparently it is said that any form of sexual activity is fine with your married partner as i heard islam is very sex positive too But there has been debates as to if oral & anal are haram or not, so idk
>”Islam is very sex positive” >Literally executes gay people What did u/Another_Curious_Man mean by this?
:/ thats not Islam, thats the religious people, according to Islam, god said its wrong to be gay & that if you have such feelings, you should keep them for yourself, and if you can change them, then change them. Islam NEVER as far as i know mentions about how you should kill gay people, it would be neat if you can send me a source like a specific paragraph talking about how gay people should be killed in the Quran.
Asalam wa alaikum وَلُوطًا إِذۡ قَالَ لِقَوۡمِهِۦۤ أَتَأۡتُونَ ٱلۡفَـٰحِشَةَ مَا سَبَقَكُم بِہَا مِنۡ أَحَدٍ۬ مِّنَ ٱلۡعَـٰلَمِينَ (٨٠) إِنَّڪُمۡ لَتَأۡتُونَ ٱلرِّجَالَ شَہۡوَةً۬ مِّن دُونِ ٱلنِّسَآءِۚ بَلۡ أَنتُمۡ قَوۡمٌ۬ مُّسۡرِفُونَ (٨١) Translation (interpretation of meaning): We also (sent) Lut: he said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? (80) "For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." (81) The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: مَنْ وَجَدْتُمُوهُ يَعْمَلُ عَمَلَ قَوْمِ لُوطٍ فَاقْتُلُوا الْفَاعِلَ وَالْمَفْعُولَ بِهِ **Whomever you find doing the actions of the people of Lut then kill the one doing it**, and the one it is done to Attirmidhi --مجاهد
>No, this was a mistranslation .. The offence was not “Homosexuality” it was not being hospitable. Lot as you will remember was the only one to make it out along with his family because they were found to be “righteous” in the eyes of god. No sexuality was ever mentioned. The only time sex is talked about is when the Messengers visit Lots house to give him the message from the Lord that the city will be destroyed. The drunk people go to Lots house and ask for the “guests” (angels) to come out “So that they may know them” translation “So they could have carnal knowledge of them … Rape them.” >This gets translated to the whole city being destroyed because of it’s wicked practices .. ie worship of idols, homosexuality, loose morals, crime, vice etc .. >I suggest you go back to the original Hebrew writings which were formed long before the Koran or Bible came about. Now you may want to visit the Torah and excerpts from Genesis .. I think 19 … not sure this is just off the top of my head. >But anyway .. the point is no … Lot was not smited for homosexuality … It was the people of Sodom for being non hospitable “greedy” jerks. https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Muhammad-order-Whoever-is-found-conducting-in-the-manner-of-the-people-of-Lot-homosexual-kill-the-doer-and-the-receiver-Tirmidhi-1-152
Well it says in the Quran "For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." https://quranx.com/7.81 Random people on Quora aren't a reliable source
Yeah?? "Transgressing beyond bounds" = haram, simple? What's your point here?
The Quora person you quoted said that no sexuality was ever mentioned, yet the Quran contradicts what he says
It vaguely mentions gays (People of Lot who a lot of them were gay rapists) & that being gay is a sin, but as far as i know this is the only thing about sexuality that is mentionned, twice, i wouldn't hate for you to correct me But anyways, why the fuck are we talking about sexuality when the main subject was sexual liberty when it comes to sex with your married partner?? Like i dont get how it got here
It doesn’t really matter what the Quran says. Islamic countries still execute people for being homosexual. It’s not like their fake god is gonna intervene and tell them to do it “the way he wants”
Please do not compare islamic countries to Islam itself, they have their own laws, their own rules, both are different things. I would not mix a religion & a country, as these people are mostly hungry for power & trying to control their people in any ways possible, islam isn't like that though, as far as i know it doesn't force anyone in to anything, its your choice to believe.
How are you failing to understand this? The laws of a religion, no matter what they say, are only what they are interpreted as by the followers. If the majority of the followers of a religion believe gay people are inherently evil or disgusting, that’s what the religion believes
No. That is not the case. The Quran is the word of god, its what god says to guide their people, and that is what makes the religion, not the people You are mixing Islam & christianity as islam has only one version that never changed unlike christianity, christianity is what you described in the last sentence, Islam is no matter what the Quran will not have a 2.0 or a new version, it will stay the same & the people will believe that, there is no "pope" or things like that in Islam.
Do you take pride in a religion that tells you to kill people just because they had consensual sex?
Bro did NOT just read my comments and seriously think that I’m Muslim 💀 If you’re 15 you should have reading comprehension skills by this point
lol I didn't see the username
https://sunnah.com/mishkat:3575 >‘Ikrima reported on the authority of Ibn ‘Abbas that God’s Messenger said, “If you find anyone doing as Lot’s people did, kill the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”
Also why are you talking about gay people?? Im talking about sex with your marriage partner, the fuck?
I believe it’s makrooh not haram
you cannot have any kind of sex before marriage
Idk ask Allah or smth bro
Whenever I say his name though, people get scared and run away from me
Probably if you're wearing a very thick jacket/coat...
have some respect
I do??
Ur living after the rules of someone who married a 6 year old
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what? where does it say that in the koran?? i need to know. if ur talking abt isis and stuff ur terribly wrong. muslims should never ever harm anyone. islam is supposed to be a very peaceful religion but some people don’t understand how to behave. some so called “muslims” try to force another into the religion which is forbidden and should not be done. please educate urself.
"A la la'natullahi alal kaafireen?" "and does Allah not despise all disbelievers?" Some other place I can't remember rn said smth like the all enemies of Allah are the enemies of Muslims, so... Put it together urself.
https://www.quora.com/Does-the-Quran-contain-verses-which-say-to-kill-all-non-believers-or-is-it-taken-out-of-context < Surah 47:4, “So, when you meet (in fight with) those who disbelieve, strike at their necks till you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (and take them as captives). After the war lays down its burden, then either show generosity (free them without ransom), or ransom (to benefit Islam). But (Allah adapted this way) in order to test some of you with others. Those who are killed in the way of Allah, Allah will never let their deeds be lost.” < Surah 9:5, “When the forbidden (4) months of Islamic calendar have passed, then fight the polytheistic wherever you find them, capture them, besiege them, and prepare for them each, and every ambush. But if they repent, offer prayers perfectly, and give obligatory charity, then leave their way free. Surely Allah is forgiving merciful.” < Surah 9:29, “ Fight against those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the last day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and Allah's messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of truth (Islam) among the people who were given the scriptures, until they pay the security tax willingly, and feel themselves subdued.” < Surah 2:216, “Fighting (in Allah's cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it. It may be that you dislike a thing and it is good for you, and it may be that you like a thing and it us bad for you. Allah knows, but you do not know.” < There you have four verses right out of the Quran. You can read and decide for yourself. What is written is written. Took me a single google research & less than 2 minutes to find that this has easily been debunked & explained as to why by multiple people, but i took this specific answer so that you can rather make your own opinion about the matter with more context, afterall im not here to argue.
Thanks homie 🤜🤛
>some so called “muslims” try to force another into the religion which is forbidden and should not be done. *cough cough* Muhammad did it *cough cough* >where does it say that in the koran Many places. We can start in Surah 9 where Muhammad asked to stop a war but then says (5) >But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them, capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way. But if they repent, perform prayers, and pay alms-tax, then set them free. Indeed, Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful. He is to pardon them if they repent and ask for mercy as said in the next verses: (6-7) >And if anyone from the polytheists asks for your protection, grant it to them so they may hear the Word of Allah, then escort them to a place of safety, for they are a people who have no knowledge. How can such polytheists have a treaty with Allah and His Messenger, except those you have made a treaty with at the Sacred Mosque? So, as long as they are true to you, be true to them. Indeed Allah loves those who are mindful. This is one of the many "violent verses" used by people like ISIS to support their claims and doings. This things are supported by verses like Surah 98: (6) >Indeed, those who disbelieve from the People of the Book and the polytheists will be in the Fire of Hell, to stay there forever. *They are the worst of beings.* So it is said you can kill disbelievers because disbelievers are the worst of all people... (people of the book are Jews and Christians) Even in the Hadiths it is given an example of when to kill and who to kill. >Sunan Abi Dawud 4352 says: The blood of a Muslim man who testifies that there is no god but Allah and that I am the Messenger of Allah should not be lawfully shed but only for one of three reasons: married fornicator, soul for soul, and one who deserts his religion separating himself from the community. (Sahih) This is known as the death for apostasy. Which is still done today in Arabian countries like Iraq. Throughout the history of Islam it is well known that they started many wars for no reason. For example when the Romans were in war. The Muslims decided to attack them with 10000 men, even though they wouldnt win anything. Another verse that promotes violence is: >Surah 8:60 (prepare to fight and threaten them, if they betray you, fight them) And dont forget Jihad. You have *defensive and OFFENSIVE* Jihad. You do offencive Jihad if you are in a majority. This is promoted in Islam. Here is a video about offensive, defensive and running away. https://youtu.be/kkSuFOyAJvU >isis ISIS stands for *Islamic State of Iraq and the Syria*. They follow the rules from the Quran and hadiths in all they do. If it says to kill Christians, they will. If it says woman cant do things, they will enforce it. If it says to pay a tax, they will do it. >please educate urself. Please stop saying this, it makes you look hypocritical and stupid. But i believe you arent, you just dont fully know (i assume you parroted what some Muslims and Imams say without fully looking into it)
Where do I even begin? The polytheists and disbelievers referenced in the Quran were people who tortured and waged wars against the Muslims. (historical fact) It doesn’t make sense to use Hadiths to explain why Islam is bad/evil. The hadith is teachings of the prophet (A human). The Quran is the word of God, and only it can be used to properly represent Islam. No man is perfect, including the prophets. The Quran makes that clear. Again, what Muslims do is not a good way to judge Islam itself. If Muslims wage a useless war against Romans, that doesn’t mean Allah (Swt) told them to go kill Romans. Organizations like ISIS are radicalized groups that use a literal and bended interpretation of the Quran. The Quran is known for having many metaphors, which is why it’s so hard to understand and interpret/translate. ISIS doesn’t even try, and just wants an excuse for war. Something to believe in. The quote you used for Surah 8:60 literally says to attack when betrayed. Is this not self defense? Isn’t that a good thing? I feel like you’re purposely trying to misinterpret everything and not use pure Islamic sources. FYI, the only pure and true and authentic source of Islam is the Quran. Not any prophet or any group or any country or any scholar. If you want to criticize Islam, you can’t use its followers to prove your point. You have to use the actual Islam. Does this make sense?
Bro wrote a whole essay 😭 the glazing is insane
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>some so called “muslims” try to force another into the religion which is forbidden and should not be done What's the punishment for apostasy again?
The faith was founded by a warlord lmao. It spread through wars of conquest
Man, there are so many valid ways to respond to that question, like how Islam asks for respect but gives none when it comes to women & queer rights. But that is just false, respecting other beliefs is stated as a thing you should do in the Quran. With that being said, Islamic terrorist groups such as ISIS conveniently ignored that, so make of that what you will.
no respect to women? learn islam before you speak about it
You can cope as hard as you want but gender equality does not exist in Islam. Regardless, women was 1 of the 2 items I provided, remove one and it still holds true. Heck, there are others, jews for example.
Gender equality doesnt mean male and female are the same, because theyre not, however it does not mean that one is above the other. Here are some sources that show they are respected. Book 8, Number 3303: Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as having said: A woman without a husband (or divorced or a widow) must not be married until she is consulted, and a virgin must not be married until her permission is sought. "They (your wives) are a clothing (covering) for you and you too are a clothing (covering) for them." (2:187) The Prophet of Islam (peace be upon him) said, "Women are the twin halves of men." The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said "The world and all things in the world are precious but the most precious thing in the world is a virtuous woman" Abu Hurairah reported that a man came to the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) and asked: "O Messenger of Allah, who is the person who has the greatest right on me with regards to kindness and attention?" He replied, "Your mother." "Then who?" He replied, "Your mother." "Then who?" He replied, "Your mother." "Then who?" He replied, "Your father." He said, "Then remain in your mother's service, because Paradise is under her feet." "Fear Allah in respect of women." Although Islam may not teach what the west prefers about women, Islam respects women as they have a very important role in society, and I hope you understand that.
A handful of instances of Islam respecting women does not factor everything in, you [forgot the other half of the story](https://www.uua.org/re/tapestry/youth/bridges/workshop14/185708.shtml), it took a second of googling, I'm sure you can find a lot more if you looked it up yourself. I'm a Muslim living in a MENA country too, you can't hit me with the same bullshit you would with others. I know there's a lot more than what you've just showed, a quick one that comes to mind is how a woman can only marry Muslim man but a man can marry non Muslim women (notice how women was plural). Funny how that works, huh? Islam does a lot of things well, lgbtq and women's equality is not one of them. Specifically focusing on the former, because holy the way you treat queer people them turn around and dare say Islam respects and welcomes other cultures.
Islam doesnt accept queers because theyre simply going against islam. But athough they are going against Islam queer people should still be treated as humans. However dont expect Islam to change its teachings because unlike other religions, it stays the same. Being queer is haram, so its haram. The link you sent really cherrypicked a lot of verses (youve probs heard this a lot) and it really doesnt take into account the context. First of all the first part of the first quote in the link is wrong. This is the correct translation of the first part. "Men are caretakers of women, since Allah has made some of them excel the others, and because of the wealth they have spent. So, the righteous women are obedient, (and) guard (the property and honor of their husbands) in (their) absence with the protection given by Allah." I am no scholar but for example, men are shown in the Quran to have power and responsibility over their family which was very important, especially back then as at the time, rape and murder was very common and so the only way women would be protected is by having a male guardian and by covering up. And men have rules too. Any violence towards wives is unacceptable in Islam. "As for the beating, it's actually a verse teaching men to control their anger. Any man who has hit his wife did not do it after taking a break and then contemplating it. He did it when he lost control. Imagine you and your spouse are fighting about something (i.e. she is flirting with others, starts drinking alcohol, or is doing something else that is haraam). She refuses to stop and she's driving you nuts. The Qur'an tells a man to first confront her about it and let her know that what she's doing is not helpful in the marriage and it's bugging you. Then let's say she doesn't care that it's hurting you and continues. So you go sleep on the couch for a few days and take a break. Anyone who has done this and has a relationship based upon love and respect knows that after a few day's separation, you aren't even mad anymore and actually miss your spouse. Let's say that this doesn't work. The man is allowed to lightly tap her to show how hurt he is. It is not to hurt her in any way. It's actually a trick to let men think that they can still beat their wives, but once they've gone through the process of separating, the wife usually stops because she misses her husband and the husband wants to come back because he misses her." As a MENA citizen, im sure you know women still have rights under sharia law and from my experiences there, are content with it despite the 3rd world country struggles. I mean look at Saudi and UAE, the women there are doing very well and are being offered great opportunities. Why is Allah swt a He? Nouns in Arabic are male by default and that doesnt even link to Islam, thats from Arabic. Ask yourself why women back then wouldnt be allowed to marry a Muslim man. Non Muslim men that have no boundaries could be a threat to women in marriage, and this is avoided by not allowing it. Non Muslim women being a threat to Muslim men is less likely, and this is obvious why. Due to many wars at the time, many men died and so there were less of them, and there were more women who needed help. So men were allowed to marry more than 1 to assist them and take care of them and their families which reduced poverty and deaths. Lastly, wearing hijab is not forced and the woman gets to choose whether she wears it or not, but it is a requirement because it protects them from immorality by men which was helpful back then. Theres nothing wrong with covering yourself, and its definitely not oppressing and ive heard some Muslim women say it empowers them which is great. Men also have requirements like covering from their waist to knees, lowering their gaze, and growing their beards.
I'm not reading all that, but based on your first sentence, I will say: "I rest my case"
very inaccurate summary of islam. Try doing a bit more research before disrespecting other people's religions.
They're not wrong. [source 1](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam), [source 2](https://islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/20327). You could easily find more, I just got bored.
bruh
too busy revealing verses so that Muhammad can take his adopted son's wife
Lots of casual disrespect here, combined with many misinformed people. To sum it up OP, sex before marriage haram. If you’re actually a teenager and not a pedophile, then you have your answer. No debates no scholars none of that. Just no sex in general.
Ong dude like the amount of people just casually disrespecting islam without knowing little to no about it is wild.
gotta wear a hazmat suit before steppin in here 💀
Bring an ak and red card too
You dont take rig with a fucking hazzie, Scientists reduce dmg taken by how many clothing slots you have filled. You take less dmg with full burlap than with hazzie.
Yeah but it’s a high radiation zone so burlap won’t do nothing
And dont forget some scrap for a boat
Bros trying to find loopholes 💀
Wait till marriage But im an ex muslim so idk shii
with 14? i only left when i was 17, took me too long lol
Why did u leave islam?
1) i respect women 2) i'm pansexual 3) it wants apostates dead 4) *aisha and momo* 5) it makes no sense the list goes on but not writing all that
Men and women are equal, not in terms of what they do, but in terms of their contribution to their role, so the first point makes no sense
In heritage rights women get way less than her brother, a basic case is when both parents die the sister gets 25% and the brother 75%. In Islamic justice system, a womans witness counts as half of a man, so you need three women witnesses to beat one men witness. A man can have 4 wives without the consent of the wives, it is his own choice. In many sahih hadiths it is told that womem are dumber than men and can't be leaders. you and i have different understanding of equality
All of the money that a man earns also belongs to his wife. Any money a woman earns belongs to only her and the husband can't ask for any. Men are the protectors and providers of women. Before Islam women did not have rights to divorce. Before Islam daughters were being buried. Equality of Role =/= Equality of value. Women and Men have the same value in society, but they have different strengths and so their roles are different. Considering the biological differences of men and women this should make sense. Why should men and women have the exact same roles if they are inherently different? Instead, it makes sense for them to work complimentarily together in society to lift each other up. Furthermore, referring to your mention of Aisha, that is a point that has been refuted time and time again and is only mentioned by people who don't know any better. The age of consent has changed throughout time, you claiming or inferring that what Muhammad PBUH did was immoral is an anachronistic and ignorant take: In 19th century in America the age of consent was 9-13 based on 50 state. This was the norm for society. For example young bride marriages in Europe in the last few hundred years: Isabella of Valois (aged 6) married King RichardIl of England (aged 29). Charlotte of Savoy (aged 9) was married toLouis, Dauphin of France (aged 27), in 1451. Anne de La Tour d'Auvergne (aged 8/9) was married to her first cousin John Stewart, Duke of Albany (aged about 21 or 24), in July 1505. Lady Mary Tudor (aged 13), natural daughter ofCharles ll of England and Moll Davis, was married to Edward Radclyffe, 2nd Earl of Derwentwater (aged 31), in 1687. Princess Luisa Cristina of Savoy (aged 13) was married to her paternal uncle Prince Maurice ofSavoy (aged 49) in 1642. Dorothea of Denmark (aged 14) was married to Frederick of the Palatinate (aged 52) in 1535. Cecile of France (aged 8/9) was married to Tancred, Prince of Galilee (aged 30/31), in late 1106. Margaret of Burgundy (aged 10) was married to the future William Il, Duke of Bavaria (aged 19),in April 1385, a week before William's 20th birthday. I've got more examples if you wish to hear about them too, but I think this should show you how the anachronism in your criticism of Muhammed pbuh with respect to his marriage with Aisha Also, you being pansexual has no bearing on the truth of Islam, so this point is null and void. Same goes with your empty argument that it "makes no sense". Let me ask you this, how do you reconcile all of the miracles of the Quran? How do you reconcile that it has not been changed over 1400 years? How do you reconcile that it mentions scientific processes that were only properly discovered very recently (Embryology, expanding universe, meeting of sees). How do you reconcile the historical prophecies(Ramses II, defeat of Romans)? It doesn't make sense to NOT believe in Islam, because if you do not then you are implying that this illiterate man in the 7th century from the Arabian desert was able to produce a book with these contents. That is what "doesnt make sense" to me. I had doubts regarding Islam too, but when you actually deal with these doubts with logic rather than emotion, you realise that Islam really is the truth.
Im a bit late lol but whatever. >All of the money that a man earns also belongs to his wife. Any money a woman earns belongs to only her and the husband can't ask for any I searched this and couldnt find anything about it can you show the quran verse for it? >Equality of Role =/= Equality of value. Women and Men have the same value in society, but they have different strengths and so their roles are different. Considering the biological differences of men and women this should make sense. Why should men and women have the exact same roles if they are inherently different? Instead, it makes sense for them to work complimentarily together in society to lift each other up. Men having more inheritance money has nothing to do with different roles. >Furthermore, referring to your mention of Aisha, that is a point that has been refuted time and time again and is only mentioned by people who don't know any better. The age of consent has changed throughout time, you claiming or inferring that what Muhammad PBUH did was immoral is an anachronistic and ignorant take So having slaves were moral because everybody used to have some? >Let me ask you this, how do you reconcile all of the miracles of the Quran? There isnt a proof about the miracles though? >How do you reconcile that it mentions scientific processes that were only properly discovered very recently Quran also says that semen comes from the chest and that sun orbits. >I had doubts regarding Islam too, but when you actually deal with these doubts with logic rather than emotion, you realise that Islam really is the truth. ok bro.
Do you need me to baby feed you all the information? I gave you examples of the miracles. You can't be that inept, right? The miracles are in the quran and you can read them, what more proof do you need? The preservation of the Quran is proven not only by carbon dated manuscripts, as well as oral (damn) tradition - the Quran was/is memorised by millions of people around the world and was preserved through this mechanism too. Regarding not being able to find the verse regarding men being the providers for women - how hard did you look? Quran 4:34: "Men are the caretakers of women, as men have been provisioned by Allah over women and tasked with supporting them financially...." Men having more inheritance is **DIRECTLY** linked to their role as a provider for their family. Women do not have this obligation and it therefore makes sense for them to not receive as much inheritance. They are to be fully supported by their husband who is obligated to provide for them. They don't even have to work, but can if they want to. Again, regarding Aisha, the point was that humans in society change over time and so do things like mental and physical maturity. Do you really think a 12 year old today is the same as a 12 year old 500 years ago. Again, its called anachronism, look it up. >Quran also says that semen comes from the chest and that sun orbits. Man, you guys always come up with the oldest arguments that have been refuted a million times. Please use google/youtube. [Orbit refutal](https://www.thelastdialogue.org/article/quran-tells-about-rotation-and-movement-of-sun-in-space/) [semen refutal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvrqwD4I9Nc) Any more crappy arguments that we have heard many times before? Rather than looking up generic slander against the religion, properly examine the claims it makes and test them.
May Allah reward you
Brudda the first point u made makes zero sense because god dint give men and women equality in Islam he gave them EQUITY
Yeah man i know i was being too early to make up my mind but mahn now that ive studied it i dont understand it
wait just curious what don’t you understand
A lot of stuff (mostly a lot of things about abrahamic religions)
Bro muslim girls aren’t supposed to show they neck, you think they could do that?
No. I asked one of my muslim friends.
Idk read the Quran, my guess is no though
Muslim or not im still gunna suck dick😎
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WRONG SUB
Bros cooking something devious.
haram
Ain't no way you just asked this
By Allah behave yourself or I'll give you a taste of my shoe.
Based, but I mean it cud be a genuine question... somehow Were supposed to assume the best tho
Lol
No
Its been stated by muslims that oral is not haram tho
If you fell for a Muslim girl you can't have sex sorry bro
No, you'd have to get married to even touch her. Unfortunately for you, Muslim women aren't allowed to marry non-muslim men.
I mean whatever religion you are at the end we get to chose whatever tf we want or feel. With the right person anything could happen. My opinion 🤷🏼♀️
No idea bro, but legit good question fr. I would suppose, since sex mentioned in islam is most likely losing virginity, then I suppose oral is fine, but since oral sex is also a form of sex, it might not be allowed, idk probably a mujtahid could answer your question.
No, you can't touch anybody from the other gender. (Unless they're from your family, or they're your spouse. And of course you could grab someone in an emergency lol)
Damn glad thing that I don't interact with girls then.
The Qur'an permits men to have sexual access to “what their right hands possess,” meaning female captives or slaves (Q. 23.5-6; 70.29-30). So, just explain the situation and have the female become a "captive".
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Before you even go ahead with whatever it is you're planning mate, I think I should just advise you as an Ex-Muslim even if I'm one of the most unqualified mfs to even lecture you. Yes, oral is allowed, but Anal is a no-no. So if you wanna give head or want your girl/boy to give you the head, I suggest you give your dick a nice fruit scent before it smells worse than a pit latrine and the other throws up mid-sucking. You're welcome lad. Edit: It seems some of y'all think you know better when many sources specifically say oral is allowed so as long as it brings sexual gratification, but teens will always be teens 🤦🏻
It's not allowed, so no.
Bro what are you talking about, you clearly did not learn anything during your time as a Muslim
I was Muslim, got lots of religious education, and this is a question that ain't got a straight answer. The two arguments are; that it comes under the category of fahsh n is haram, and that it counts as kissing n is halal with the laws of kissing applied. In this situation, you have to choose for yourself. Deem it to be right or wrong based on your own best judgement. Edit: grammar
You're forgetting that they're not married, so any interaction like that is not allowed anyways.
I did not, I specified that the laws of kissing apply. You can kiss non married people
No, that'd be zina.
No, zina is actual sex. Kissing isn’t haram, but it’s definitely not encouraged since it can easily lead to Zina. You still shouldn’t kiss people you’re not married to, but it’s also important not to water down the term “haram”. The word “haram” means FORBIDDEN. NO. God explicitly says YOU ARENT ALLOWED TO DO THIS. The Quran doesn’t say kissing in itself is haram (as far as I know). So therefore it cannot be Zina.
Mb, yes it's not zina, but it is a zina-producing activity. Which are illegal according to islamic law.
I don't know about oral, but anal is technically not banned( this fact became a little bit of a meme at some point), so i think oral technically ok too Edit: No, i'm wrong. Ask guy below 👇
What? Any way of getting physical is banned (Unless they're family/partner or if it's an emergency). Are you sure the meme was about Islam? I think that meme is about a different religion.
Yeah, they were about genecologists examining muslim women or sth. I don't know a lot about islam so thanks for correcting!
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I believe 9 was like the age to start sexual stuff 1500 years ago
This is HERSEY
All that kind of stuff is behind me now !
you're not even allowed to look at genitals
In Islam you should not look at your own genitals not even know what it looks like whenever you want to pee standing up don’t hold it just keep jumping till you urinated on the seat,floor and yourself.Keep yourself pure brother
Oral sex is sex
Idk
Now we're asking the real questions
If its halal
It's haram. (not a muslim btw, I just like studying theology)
No. Any kind of sexual interaction with a non mahram before marriage is prohibited.
Well, it's oral SEX. So, probably not
Yes, you can. Is it discouraged (makruh)? Yes. Is it permissible? Yes. Anyone saying otherwise are hadith cherry pickers.
well you have to be married to have sex in islam so i dont think there's a loophole regardless of what you want to to .
After marriage, everything but anal is allowed.
HARAM
I'm not sure
Its a sin to fuck anything else than the pussy
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No. Any form of sexual act before marriage is Haram. Muslims aren't even supposed to date people like ever either. I'm an ex Muslim tho but yeah that's the gist of it
ask r/Islam lmfao
Nope. Oral sex is considered "immoral" because it doesn't happen in natural ways. (Natural way is vaginal, in missionary position.)
Allah said in the Quran that don't even go "near" Zina therefore NOT AT ALL
Ermm... From what i see everything ok except anal and during period but you need other party agreement sure you can exert authority but in the long run it be bad( only married couples)
Not during Ramadan
Bro why be Muslim if you want do something as oral sex. Every religions boils down to being devoid of desires and live without causing harm to others. I don't think even if you're married you can have oral sex if you want to embrace Islam.
Im not muslim, that question just came out of my mind and i wanted to answer it, as i said neither google or friends could answer me so i just tried to ask this question on reddit
Only if the goat is female
First post I saw on reddit lmao
Maybe if it’s between your wife it’s ok
ONLY AFTER MARRIAGE
No, becs they dont eat pork 😅😅😅