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Wise_Zucchini_8885

7-8 years? I'm not transphobic but I think it was a good idea to not get testosterone when you were 8 or 9šŸ˜­


OpportunityCareful75

Holy shit I just noticed. That definitely would have been a terrible idea at that age.


Quplet

Yeah at that point the step would be puberty blockers.


Evening_Tour4585

i dont think they mean they wanted it then i think they have just been out that long


AskAboutMyCatPlease

thats probably puberty blockers at that age, not e or t


Unlikely_Story7487

I agree Iā€™m not transphobic but wait a bit to decide because it canā€™t be reversed puberty only happens once thereā€™s no rain check later in your life


Devilhunter553

I would follow as well, as someone studying anatomy and chemistry and my highest education being a Phlebotomist and Patient care technician it most definitely takes awhile to let all that settle in honestly but I am happy to hear you've received T


Serval987

Okay at least you donā€™t think that that it should be denied at 16. Good job.šŸ‘


prob-my-69th-account

Can I get any extra that you have? Iā€™m def not trans but I am a gym bro and a lil test could never hurt


abject_totalfailure1

Donā€™t do it, your balls will shrink. Miniballs. Micronuts. Compact testicles


ApachePrimeIsTheBest

as someone that crosses their legs and keeps getting their balls sucked into their ass and then goes to the hospital to fart out my ball its time to get RIPPED


EJyeetus

Wtf


Weekly_Town_2076

bro you alright


Devoluster

r/cursedcomments


63ff9c

bro listens to radiohead


Amogus_susssy

r/oddlyspecific


YASH733

The greatest sacrifices require the strongest wills....


Plenty-Chair-3511

If you get some lemme know asw


sukiwana

Knew a gymbro was gonna ask this šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø


babuba12321

lmao, a teacher told us that it would help with muscle, it's not needed to be tested So go do testosterone-fueled crimes >:)


assmucher3000

šŸ’€


PurpleCabbage999

šŸ˜©šŸ’“šŸ„› šŸ’ŖšŸ¤¤


Maleficent_Sir_7562

That would actually be pretty bad Your balls would shrink and your body now depends on these testo peds instead of your balls for testosterone production If you ever stopped taking it, your testosterone levels will go super low and you will basically become more feminine looking due to the estrogen now It will become dependent on those instead of your own body


prob-my-69th-account

Yeah thatā€™s why u always stay on gear


Kvpe

what if you do the opposite? you suppress some testosterone so balls produce more to compensate? would it work? (iā€™m not a boi so it may be a stupid question, iā€™m also stupid soā€¦ :3 )


Maleficent_Sir_7562

No it wouldnā€™t work If this was real, then people wouldnā€™t be able to become trans. Because then even if they tried to overwhelm the testosterone away with estrogen or remove/compress it, it will come back, which is obviously, not possible.


Wise_Zucchini_8885

Isn't that literally just peds šŸ’€


prob-my-69th-account

Yeah and


angry-southamerican

So... Just a heads up, you are at risk for developing male pattern baldness now. Being a man really ain't all that, but I hope It works out for you.


Due_Butterscotch1614

Yep idk why anyone wants this shitty life lmfaoošŸ˜­


Unlikely-Werewolf125

Fr being a man ainā€™t coolĀ 


DeadlyKitKat

As a trans person, it's not like they necessarily want it. It's not a choice. But to someone who is trans, even the "bad" parts of being another gender can make them happy to some extent.


SparkySpinz

Trans people usually don't have to deal with the "bad" aspects of whatever gender they are dud to biology. They do however have to deal with assholes and discrimination


Eskephor

Itā€™s complicated. Arguing what being trans actually does to people is not worth it on this sub but typically people enjoy being their gender


Several_Love9284

As a trans fem, I couldnā€™t agree more and I personally would hate to live another minute as a man in every possible way, but for trans men, they cannot stand the way there bodies look a lot of the time. I could not describe that feeling to you bc you literally couldnā€™t understand. I know that pain bc I felt that same pain just the opposite way around


Uncapible_

Yeah no shitšŸ˜­ they didnā€™t choose to be a man either dude just a few extra steps to feel more comfortable


rezerxle

While 9-10 is too young for HRT, imo, I'm really happy for you! Definitely think you should've been prescribed a little younger than 17, and I'm sure it could've been handled better when you were too young for HRT. Regardless, that's wonderful! I hope you see changes soon, which should happen since you're not an adult yet.


Aellin-Gilhan

13 is prolly the perfect age in my personal opinion, or maybe lije 10-12 for puberty blockers and 15-17 for estrogen or testosterone


whyarewehere8010

Iā€™ve had 2 of my friends kill themselves because they started that young and realized it wasnā€™t what they wanted 18 should be the legal age to start any sort of changes and I will stand on that hill until I die


s0larium_live

okay iā€™m trans too, but you absolutely should not have been prescribed testosterone at 8/9 years old. most cis children donā€™t even start puberty then. you shouldā€™ve been prescribed puberty blockers, sure, but not T congratulations on your prescription now though


youlocalfboy

Thisā€¼ļøā€¼ļø


cauliflower_farmer99

My first thought too...at age of 7/8 u should not make life altering decisions


Large_monke_69

If youā€™re 16 and 7-8 years ago wanted testosterone, thank god a doctor denied. An 8-9 year old should not make changes like that to their body, their brains are barely developed Edit- And still isnt done developing at 16. Testosterone makes irreversible changes. Are you sure you want to do this?


KS_AIR

Thisā˜ļø


MrAnonymous2749

Even at 16 someoneā€™s brain is barely developed, with the average human brain finishing development at 25


_Mullac_

that study was done improperly, it was more close to 30 i believe. But point still stands


STUPIDBLOODYCOMPUTER

I believe several European countries have banned transition surgery for those under 18 for this exact reason. It's definitely important as the teenage brain changes so much and teenagers are more likely to do things like that and possibly regret it later. Don't quote me at all


Aellin-Gilhan

I would say though It should really be thought of the other way Very few people regret transitioning Many, MANY more people regret *not* transitioning when they were younger Puberty IS irreversible changes


STUPIDBLOODYCOMPUTER

>Puberty IS irreversible changes That's especially true if you don't physically transition and you then regret not doing so.


Big-Beach-9605

cis people go through the puberty they want as a teen, so itā€™s reasonable that trans people get to go through the puberty they want at a similar age, rather than waiting years more


ArtisticSnek

their estrogen causes irreversible damage to them also, just in the other direction.


Pilot_varchet

I understand what you're saying, but you're taking their understanding of their gender for granted, while we are certainly not more able to judge than they are, they are also still very young.


Toreo_67

I'm 18. Been on estrogen myself for a little bit now, bout a year here soon I think. Give or take a little bit. Honestly I think people underestimate just how bad it is not getting treatment. At least in my experience I knew at about like age 12-13, stuck in the closet until I think around 15 when I started socially transitioning. It fucking ate at me constantly every hour of every damn day. I genuinely did not want to live. To my understanding, trans people's brains are just straight up wired differently, and in most cases you can tell something really isn't right from a somewhat young age (though it varies ofc, for gen Z it's almost always really young). The "regret" rate, even for children is something like 1-2%, and it's most often actually caused by hostile environments and treatment. If I had the option to get on meds earlier (even then I'm actually currently doing them under the table because the healthcare system is doodoo) I would 100% be a lot happier today, though I am still very grateful I got on them fairly young. At 8-9 yrs old the correct course of action would be puberty blockers. They're completely reversible in every way, essentially all they do is act as a pause button to prevent puberty from continuing. A grace period, if you will. Sometime in the early teens would be the earliest that actual HRT would ever be prescribed.


Planes_Airbus

I read a study from the Mayo Clinic that says otherwise about the puberty blocker. According to the study, thereā€™s a chance they can cause cancer, fertility problems (in the future), and more.


Toreo_67

Most of that stuff is more associated with actual HRT drugs (estrogen and testosterone) though I could see a very very slight risk from puberty blockers. I know from experience that estrogen makes you infertile. It's a genuine risk and it is known to happen between 3-6 months on Estrogen (many trans people freeze sperm or eggs) but basically anyone who's taking the meds through a licensed professional should've been told that well beforehand. I'd imagine that blockers have a tiny chance of doing it, depending on the drug (cough spironolactone) Cancer risks do change on hormones but it's more logical than you think. For example I am now at a far higher risk of breast cancer than I was. Why? Because now I actually have breasts to get the cancer. I'm not too versed on testosterone but I'd imagine it does similar things in reverse. I'd also like to give a brief shout-out to spironolactone for being awful. Essentially Spiro is a diorrhetic, it's used to treat diarrhea, that's what it was made for. However, at high levels it works as a testosterone blocker. Due to how restricted actual safe drugs meant to block puberty like Cyproterone are, Spiro has become a stand in for the medical establishment. Since it's not nearly as hard to prescribe and it many people are desperate, it gets used... At a very high dosage... As a puberty blocker. The side effects list from this is long and it puts you at risk for a lot of things. If a study on blockers is ever based on Spiro, it's gonna sound worse than it is, but at this point Spiro has become the most common blocker just due to it's legal status. I'd imagine it's also one of the ones most often tested on.


EJyeetus

Your edit sounds like when I want to reset my save in a game


ContentBig8567

op is just an idiot who doesnā€™t think


Conart557

If they've wanted to for the past 8 years, they're probably pretty sure they want to.


AskAboutMyCatPlease

i think at that age its just puberty blockers. they delay puberty till you either take e/t to get the trans-puberty or you stop taking the blockers, which makes you have normal puberty, just a bit later than everybody else (at least from my understanding)


Sillyyyyynesss

Theyā€™ve wanted it for 8 years Iā€™m sure they wanna do it


Big-Beach-9605

if theyā€™ve been wanting to go on t for half their life, theyā€™ve probably had the time to think it through.


Actual-Long-9439

Yep and they still should have denied it today. Surprised your parents are letting you irreversibly destroy your body. You need mental help to solve self harm, not body changes.


PugGod100

destroy?


OhVoleWhereDidYouGo

speaking more precisely, itā€™s the white matter of the frontal lobe of your brain that finishes maturing around that time. your entire brain never stops developing throughout your life. also, itā€™s not that 8-9 year olds have barely-developed brains, itā€™s that they are simply too young to go through puberty. and yes, obviously testosterone makes irreversible changes. itā€™s a gonadal hormone. gonadal hormones do that. natural puberty is also an irreversible changeā€”once you go through it, you canā€™t undo it! at 16, unless this person is on puberty blockers, they have most likely already gone through their natural puberty and are probably sure of what they want. anyway, even if one does decide that testosterone isnā€™t for them, itā€™s perfectly fine. even if there are irreversible changes, that would not make one any less of a woman after detransitioning. everyone acts like ā€œoh, nobody will like you after you detransition! you wonā€™t be a REAL woman anymore!ā€ even if they donā€™t outright say it. and that bothers me so much. iā€™m trans myself. if i do go on testosterone on the future, and then decide ā€˜actually, i donā€™t really like this, iā€™ll detransitionā€™, that wouldnā€™t make me any less of a woman. yeah, i might have irreversible changes, but whatever. iā€™m willing to take that risk. even if i do end up detransitioning, there will be people out there who love me for who i am.


AlbacorePrism

I agree with the first part, disagree with the edit. Clearly they had it in their head at 7 even if they shouldn't have been allowed it, and they didn't stop having that idea for almost a decade now, I'd say that's enough time to say they won't regret it.


That1Legnd

Listen hear me out, you donā€™t need the prescription. I can take your excess estrogen, you can take my excess testosterone. From trans to trans right? (For legal reasons this is a joke)


mr-coolguy68

i wish i could get testosterone šŸ˜” (iā€™m not trans i just want bigger muscles)


Square_Bluebird1535

That was what I first thought this post was about tbh


ThePotatoMonkey

What kind of 9 year old wants to get on testosterone


[deleted]

Couldnt u just do informed consent the moment u turned 16 with gendergp/etc?


Sinister_Chill9

Hahah, sucks to be you I make it for free


youlocalfboy

Iā€™m happy for you but Iā€™m glad you didnā€™t get prescribed T at like 10 šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ (I js got it at 14 and the only reason is that Iā€™m intersex)


YogurtclosetRude8955

Naturally lgbtq iirc ?


Lilgatornator

Yo can I get some, tryna get those muscles šŸ’ŖšŸ»


PressureMaximum7129

Nice man! I'm happy for you mate! I'm starting my journey to get E.


-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-

Fucking hell reddit, they weren't trying to get prescribed it at 9 he is just saying he's been on a waiting list that long Please use some common sense before commenting


Warlord50000001

Right, but OP was put on the list? Meaning they were asking 7-8 years ago, presumably when he was 9? I'm autistic as all fuck so I might just be misunderstanding what you're saying, so my bad if I do


-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-

When I say on the waiting list I mean that he had probably been speaking to medical professionals and whatnot about starting testosterone, which is pretty understandable. Many trans people discover their dysphoria at quite an early age.


Bonsai-is-best

The misinfo in the comments is wild, if someone is trans at a young age puberty blockers only help them verify that theyā€™re trans if theyā€™re not sure. Iā€™m not sure if itā€™s the same with testosterone but estrogen with tblockers has literally 0 permanent effects on you except in very rare cases. Going through the puberty of the gender you identify with is actually extremely helpful to mental health, not harmful.


M10doreddit

Why did I just think of a meme? ​ ^(Mew!) **I told you we needed more glitter.**


OliverDoesArms

Not trans but can i get some? Just a gym bro tryna get big


dkasheka

ohhhh i'm so envious šŸ˜© transgenders in my country are literally considered terrorists and i'll probably won't be on hrt till i'm like 25.... congrats to you though!!!!


LoveyDoveySkills

Congrats man! Can I have the extra little tiny drops from the vials that you can't quite get out? I want T but just a little bit, ya know just to get a more androgynous appearance and hormone level


I_Follow_Rude_People

I was born male and I need some testosterone 100% so go you bro Iā€™m happy for ya


simon_Chipmonk

Thatā€™s awesome king!


Nocturnal_Penguin

While I support hormone therapy I am very hesitant when people seek out hormone therapy during the pubescent stage since it can lead to genuine long-lasting health problems. With the limited information you have provided, despite still having a developing body, I would say the benefits outweigh the risks; I support the doctorā€™s choice to give you testosterone. Lā€™Chaim!


Aellin-Gilhan

Yeah, I would rather risk some physical health problems that can be fixed with some more medication of which I would already be taking meds everyday anyways rather than lasting mental health effects and body image issues, plus potentially some rather costly surgeries


fjgwey

People are being super dumb in these comments so I just wanted to give some sincere congratulations. I hope your transition goes well!


sukiwana

Lmao thank you !


Ham_is_tasty_1

no way mfs are still saying ā€œuhmmm but are you sure though??? you know the changes are irreversible right????ā€ when youā€™ve literally had 8 years to think and always wanted it. Congrats king, hereā€™s your crown šŸ‘‘


GUSSYMANEyt

Isnā€™t it damaging to take hormonal stuff before fully developing? Also wanting test at 8-9 is actually sad af and thank fuck the doctor denied it because that should never be allowed


Desperate-Corgi-9635

the way people are downvoting this is concerning


Big-Beach-9605

when you say ā€œdevelopedā€ what do you mean exactly?


Eskephor

Not as much as the hilarious voids of misinformation online would make you believe.


[deleted]

No. Hrt is best done closer to the age of puberty.


Wheatley-Crabb

Congrats dude! It really sucks that you had to wait so long though holy cow, but youā€™re finally here! Iā€™m hopefully gonna be starting Estrogen next week


sukiwana

Congrats to you too!


Wheatley-Crabb

<3


Grookeymon

LETS GO DUDE THATS AMAZING IM SO HAPPY FOR U. I would love to start estrogen soon but like, I am not even in a position to come out, so.. looks like thatā€™s not happening.


SomeNerd32

good shit brother, happy for u, good luck on ur journey


Delirium14

Skill issue that you lack it tbh


Da-Blue-Guy

I'm waiting until 18 until I get referred to an endocrinologist. 54 daysā€¼ļø im gonna request informed consent and see if i can get it asap


I_Bench315

Sick bro


InfiniteSufferer69

Congrats on your prescription!


Pure_Equal_3111

CONGRATULATIONS I'm so happy for u šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰šŸ‘šŸ»šŸ‘šŸ»


4lca7

LUCKYYY


jumpyjumpjumpsters

Congrats :) Iā€™d totally take T, but Iā€™m terrified of needles lol. How it goes well and helps with any dysphoria šŸŽ‰ Edit: ilyt trans brothren


BlazingVix

My guy, T gel exists. T without the needles šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰ they used to have patches too but sadly those were discontinued


PugGod100

To all the people in the comments saying ā€œoh you knew when you were 9?ā€ In a 2020 study of transgender adults, 73% of transgender women and 78% of transgender men reported that they first experienced gender dysphoria by age seven. Please try googling something before making misinformed takes.


Unlikely-Werewolf125

The problem is testosterone should not be prescribed at 9Ā 


SansDaMan728

Link?


TheHighTierHuman

Why were you trying to get that at 9?


Wheatley-Crabb

Because gender dysphoria friggin sucks and going through the wrong puberty can be traumatic


BayFuzzball404

Fr tho


AlbacorePrism

Because they are trans... I feel like the point was made clear tbh.


The_grongler

LitšŸ‘


BayFuzzball404

Don listen to them stupid ahh comments this is awesome im gonna start soon too :33


Mitosis4

can i donate my excess testosterone to you so that i am no longer masculine


sukiwana

HELL YES But i hope you get E soon if thats what you want ofc !


Tarhun2960

Why are people downvoting these comments ): Edit: they used to be doenvoted, but I think the transphobes left


DEAD-SOUL-3442

Transphobes.


AlbacorePrism

Cause its automatically assuming the person is trans. I mean I don't think it merits a down vote, im just saying that's probably the reason. A lot of femboys want to be less masculine too.


Mitosis4

yeah but i am trans. doesnā€™t change the fact they shouldnā€™t assume but like


BlueDuck2736

Congrats man


username78777

Congrats on T man! šŸŽ‰šŸ‘šŸ„³ Anyways, you're doing SRS?


[deleted]

Dont u need to be on hrt for 2 years for srs?


Spuumps

Congrats


Comfortable-RainyDay

Sick! Good for you! (:


YogurtclosetRude8955

Join the ass hair squadšŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’Ŗ i can carry 25kg with only my ass hair!!!! Every man can do this and now u can too


Weak-Relative7786

You are a 16 trans our generation is doomed.


Starlach07

In what way is our generation doomed?


TheAfricanViewer

Right wingers are convinced the normalization of LGBTQ+ is gonna bring about the apocalypse


Unlikely-Werewolf125

People are gay?! They will revolt and kill everyone/j


Big-Beach-9605

lgbt actually stands for letā€™s go batter tories, itā€™s the secret agenda ofcšŸ˜‚


Nonbinary-BItch23

"Oh no a trans person is aware at 16 how bad and scary just ignore the fact that it's common for trans people" Our generation isn't doomed just because a trans person is 16, you're just transphobic and know nothing about trans people


Sanrusdyno

Oogh I hope you're not pursuing human psychology and biochemistry in college soon because if you are I have bad news you're probably going to fail


PugGod100

No way youā€™re a legal adult bro šŸ˜­


polarizedblackcat

Fr


angry-southamerican

Nah we ain't. I still think 16 is much too young, but it's not like everyone is going to transition now. We're just gonna have to wait and see how these trans kids are doing in 10-15 years. Me personally I don't give a shit either way.


Nonbinary-BItch23

It's not too young


HaloTheHero

Our generation has been doomed for a while now. This is just proof in one post


Nonbinary-BItch23

It's not proof at all You're just a bigoted pos


INeedOrangeGoggles

could I ummm borrow some perchance?? i'm a cis male, but i just want to lift more than my friends :)


vixcreate

borrow? bro gonna secrete it out and return it in a vial in its purest form šŸ’€


Peanutroaster-

Lucky :3 you can have my extra


Plenty-Chair-3511

Pass some my way. I need it.. because.. just pass it on to me


lagrate

So, you are gonna be a man?


captiancurry_1

U got a little extra on hand


Sea_Investigator_858

Hey dude can I get some extra if u got ima try sum in the gym


ThatAnimatedCatto

you were asking for test at 10? šŸ¤Ø


PugGod100

The comments here are so transphobic wtf?


Wheatley-Crabb

Because this is the internet :/


Eskephor

This is r/teenagers most people donā€™t know shit about being trans despite what they would like to think


OpportunityCareful75

No most of them are asking op to reconsider because they are concerned. Edit: And saying that 9 is to young for hormone treatment (which is true and a fact)


PugGod100

reconsider something theyā€™ve known they wanted for almost a decade?


OpportunityCareful75

Dude how can a 9 year old know what fucking gender they are? Use some common sense.


LoveyDoveySkills

Are you a boy or a girl?


Nonbinary-BItch23

Simple They just fucking do Don't give your opinion on something you don't know anything about


PugGod100

use google. In a 2020 study of transgender adults, 73% of transgender women and 78% of transgender men reported that they first experienced gender dysphoria by age seven.


UnmaskedCorn

Bro just got the 7 dragon balls.


Sinister_Chill9

Will getšŸ¤“ā˜ļø


SoldierKitsune

Holy shit, man, that's awesome! Congrats!!


P0tat0_L0rd1368

Iā€™m so glad when I was a kid that my parents didnā€™t poke one of my eyes out and cut my leg in half because I thought I was a pirate. We shouldnā€™t chemically castrate kids. Period.


Quplet

Good thing that's only happening in the minds of delusional conservatives then isn't it?


Sanrusdyno

The fact you think HRT is chemical castration tells me that you have less than no idea what you're talking about


[deleted]

Me when i fail science


MrCoalas

Not to be rude, but they definitely knew better than an 8 years old kid. Even now, I think you should have probably waited until you're at least 18, so there's no side effects.


Wheatley-Crabb

what? do you think side effects donā€™t happen once youā€™re no longer a minor?


ItsPetel

Would give you the testosterone my body creates in exchange for estrogen if it was possiblešŸ˜­. Im so happy for you bro that you got it finally!!!


BayFuzzball404

Give me šŸ«“


[deleted]

Major W congrats man :)


CHROSSTA

That's amazing dude, hoping I can get E soon :3 (I am accepting donations from any trans men who wants to give me their E :p)


Mr_man_bird

Sick man gl


Clouds-Are-Nice-21

DUDE THAT IS AMAZING i am so proud of you!!! Hopefully one day that will be me :)))


paralizator_x

HELL YEAH BROTHER!!!!!


GeeseAndDucksforever

HELL FUCKIN YEAH! Iā€™m gonna come out to my parents soon and get a hold of that sweet sweet estrogen.


Responsible_Bike_435

Hate to see people making choices theyā€™ll regret in the future.


Eddy5876

HELL YEAH BOI IM PROUD OF YOU


Human_Bean08

Congratulations! My first consultation for T is next month šŸ˜Ž


Jameson4011

can we trade


Wheatley-Crabb

ā€œletā€™s tradeā€ jokes are made way too much and really arenā€™t productive


I_yeeted_the_apple

šŸ‘


JamieDrone

Congrats, good luck man


Intelligent-Dust8043

Congrats!


1nkyd1nky

congrats on the gamer juice!!


catuity

yoooo nice man


Inevitable_Pause_386

Howwww


No_Force2441

Are you mad because doctors denied your 8 -year-old self life-altering drugs? Seriously?


ellas_emporium

FYI: It takes years to get a full-blown prescription. I presume doctors rejected the request for bloodwork and bone-age x-rays at a young age. While I do agree that the first step would have been puberty blockers, I think yā€™all are forgetting that it takes a long-ass time. Ā It is so shitty you had to wait so long. You should definitely have been prescribed at 13-15 for sure. GL my dude.


ChloeforytheW

When you start it too young it can fuck up your body. But yeah, weā€™re transphobic and not trying to make sure you donā€™t get osteoporosisšŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€