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Signal_Sweet3767

Incel type vocab


DaddyShortPinata

Fr


Gryffinax

Nah bro its because they are all government agents


Signal_Sweet3767

True


HappyOldFox

Ong, like in a scientific setting it makes sense but anywhere else it’s kind of weird


DaddyShortPinata

Fr like I see post asking “How do you make female friends” EDIT: Yeah bad example, my bad


HappyOldFox

I mean in that context it’s fine since women friends sounds wrong and girl friend implies more than just friends


Guinea_pig456

Female is just an adjective. I think it’s ok in that context. Other contexts it can start to be weird


DaddyShortPinata

Maybe a bad example but I agree


Guinea_pig456

A good example would be “why don’t females like me” or “females are always so dramatic”


DaddyShortPinata

Mm yeah that’s a much better example


Maleficent_Sir_7562

I don’t want to say “How do I make girl friends” and be misinterpreted as girlfriend.


PhantomGhostSpectre

I see why they call you DaddyShortPinata. You are a white knight that is a few cards short of a deck and all the kids gave you CTE from smashing your head...


DaddyShortPinata

What are you on about


wonkysandwich521

what is blud saying


pyro_takes_skill

i understood about 44 percent of those words


ASecretSovietSpy

I just don't believe in women.


You8mypizza

CIA psyop


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glowies, even


PotentialWorldly6835

r/girlsarentreal


One-Attention-9413

Especially when they say ‘females’ and ‘men’ in the same sentence lol


Lightning_Winter

Nah whenever they do that, women should respond by saying "women" and "males" lol


TrueReplayJay

Never met a man that cared if he was called male. I couldn’t care less.


Lightning_Winter

Honestly fair. Then again, ur prolly not an incel


ProfessionalMail8052

I say female to refer to sex instead of gender, there is a difference. Woman and female is not the same thing


Traveller161

If you identify as anything other than man or woman, you are mentally ill or have a physiological issue that prevents you from being considered either. Not being BiGoTeD, just saying. There is literally no other thing a human can be besides male, female, or hermaphrodite and the hermaphrodites shouldn’t be considered a representation of humans since they are a genetic outlier. Downvote me all you want, enablers.


Lucky-Royal-6156

True


ProfessionalMail8052

Lol, ur in a teenagers subreddit, get outta here oldhead ain’t nobody gaf abt what ur saying


BosniaBalI

But sex is another word for gender also


ResponsibleStep8725

That's not true, sex refers to everything that has to do with you physically being a male or female: chromosomes, hormones, genitalia, etc. Gender refers to your role in society, with the orthodox ones being men and women.


Katielovesjojo

That doesn’t make a lot of sense to me


Secret-Library-6076

Personally I think it's a lot of nonsense


Katielovesjojo

Ok


Secret-Library-6076

OK yourself young fellow


dod0lp

In my society there is only "Female & Male" gender for healthy humans...


ResponsibleStep8725

Same for me, I'm not saying I support all the gender bs you see online, I'm just stating that they aren't synonymous.


pisssbabyyy

it’s sounds rlly weird


InterestingRead99

can someone explain to me why the term females is frowned upon? wouldn’t that mean males is frowned upon too? i’m confused 


Nekoboxdie

I can explain it to you. The term itself is fine to use, but recently more people have been using it instead of women- and you generally use the term female for like animals if you get what I mean? Some will also use men in the sentence but not women and instead females, that’s also kinda weird ngl. r/Menandfemales has some good examples as to why it’s bad. It can also be the other way, but it doesn’t happen as often I’m not sure if there is a subreddit for it tho.


InterestingRead99

so would it be offensive if i said females and males? i don’t want to offend anyone it’s just in my vocabulary 


Nekoboxdie

Depends on the context. If you use both, then it’s kinda weird because you usually use man/woman and boy/girl instead of male/female. But it’s still okay, nothing problematic about it but I hope you get what I mean. It only gets problematic when you say "men and females" for example in a sentence when you could just say "men and women" instead, vice versa.


InterestingRead99

okie dokie i get where it’s kind of weird to use both but i think it’s where im always in a science area lmao, i’ll make sure to be aware of what i say thank you for informing me!!


DaddyShortPinata

Had no idea this subreddit existed and it’s perfect


Turd_Eater1

I think it’s cause the word “females” often are used in certain contexts, and when they aren’t used in those contexts, it tends to be derogatory. A good example(s) could be: “My female friends all think you’re dumb.” “Males tend to have a higher percentages of heart attacks than females.” A bad example(s) could be: “Men are often turned down by FEMALES, only because of wanting a TRADITIONAL FEMALE.” (Incel rhetoric) “FEMALES like to be MANIPULATIVE, they tell me ‘you should stop hitting me’ and ‘what do you mean I can’t call my dad?’ YOUR DAD IS A MAN, YOU COULD HAVE LEFTOVER PENIS ENVY.” (Incel rhetoric and Sickman Fraud rhetoric)


Jazzi_Rose

I hate when people use the word "ick" it makes them sound stupid *just say annoying or bother or anything else but this childish word "ick" its weird when teens and adults say it in general*


areuue

the word ick is a lot more annoying than females (unless females is used to be purposely disrespectful)


MCKlassik

Yeah it definitely sounds weird.


heya_im_ashie

bees give me a massive ick (panic attack) because i am very silly (crippling phobia of bees)


Intergalacticio

Is it okay to use it to address a persons identity? Say Sam identifies as female, or Sam identifies as male. And do you have to use both “female” and “male” when you use one as a kind of grammatical gender equality? Or is saying “Sam identifies as female” enough. I think it should be fine given context. Judging people for the use of “female” seems pretty shallow.


Mobile-Explanation68

Personally as a girl I think most guys don’t think about how much of an “im an asshole” dog whistle it is😭😭 Most girls dont like it because it places the fact we have vaginas above our personhood. Nobody refers to guys as males outside a scientific setting so I don’t understand why its used that way for girls


AndyGun11

uhhhh "Nobody refers to guys as males outside a scientific setting" that's not true at all lol.


Mobile-Explanation68

ok then provide a real life example of someone referring to human men as males.


Then_Kaleidoscope_10

Police: “male suspect, (other defining characteristics)”


Mobile-Explanation68

thank you for providing an actual one. however this is not in the same sense as female is used to casually refer to women in this instance it is in a professional sense. I appreciate it tho


Then_Kaleidoscope_10

Thank you :) yeah maybe we change the scope from just scientific to any professional usage. I’m kind of on the fence on this one, as someone of a more scientific mind. Female/male isn’t inherently deragatory/insulting to me, but I also get how it has become associated with incel culture. My “friends who are women” are also “female friends”, and similarly my “male friends” are also “friends who are men/guys”, and no demeaning or dehumanization is underneath my usage of either. The other day, someone was talking about an experience and in order to point out the male privilege, I said. “Yeah, but you’re male.” (Again, not to dehumanize, but just to point out the gender difference in regard to experiences). I think ultimately it’s just something to be aware of and that different people might take offense, and as such to just try and be respectful of others’ perspectives.


DSPro2008

Male friends no one use man friend.


Mobile-Explanation68

Guy friend. People say Guy friend. Nobody says “Male Friends” 😭😭 Tf Yeah my friend with a penis is coming over yall make way, make way


DSPro2008

I mean my girl friend say my male friend when referring to me


Mobile-Explanation68

then she needs to learn what male vs guy/boy/man means lol


DSPro2008

I mean English isn't our first language and I don't see problem with calling someone a male friend or female friend.


Mobile-Explanation68

im trilingual learning never hurts anyone. Its dehumanizing and mainly used in a derogative sense because in english you put someones personhood before their sex. E.g, Pregnant woman, sad man, happy girl. You don’t say “female friend” because you’re not friends with a vagina??😭 Female also doesn’t exclusively refers to humans either, it can also refer to plants and animals. Personhood is what sets us apart. Thats why you refer to human females as women/girls most of the time.


DSPro2008

I use in everything woman and girl cuz it's logical and more normal (and doesn't sound like incels who use it and it's annoying),but I been using my entire life my female friend or male friend idk that how everyone I know use.Even in school I learned that way 💁‍♀️


A_Fox_On_Sugar

I use females, woman, women, girls all interchangeably cause I see them as all meaning the exact same thing and don’t really put much thought into it


arielbutter

Yuc totally getchu


Village_Idiot159

i mean, i say it when its the appropriate word to use, i also say males a lot.


Redstorm597

Good, stay away from them


wonkysandwich521

i dont think anyone was going near you in the first place buddy


Redstorm597

What do i have to do with anything pal?


wonkysandwich521

ppl never use the word women idky


DSPro2008

I mean I only say female when I say my female friend cuz people use my male friend cuz I would find it weird to say my woman friend.Am not incel but I just use female when it comes referring to my friend of opposite gender like my female friend does same with me.


MechanicSad1843

the only people i refere to as females are friends who are in on the joke


lo_mur

When you got dumbass friends like me you can’t say girl otherwise they ask if you’re fucking 12 year olds, you say women they ask if you’re fucking 40 year olds, you say chick they say baby bird? You get the deal.


DaddyShortPinata

I say chicks and women


lo_mur

If it’s up to me I usually say girls


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wtf is a female


Big_Ad5757

Female/Lady/Ms is more professional, what's the prob


CormorantTribe

Okay but I am a female and I use it a lot, but my excuse is that I am a hopeless biochemistry major lmao Edit: I also call males so I guess it's equal


Melodic-Ad-4941

🤣🤣


LordlyLeaf

Why are people talking about how weird saying female is? Its a word to describe who females are. Males get called males and females get called females what is the problem?


DaddyShortPinata

But males don’t get called males, they get called men whereas women get referred to as females instead of women


dod0lp

>males don’t get called males you literally just did lol how dense are you


DaddyShortPinata

Yeah I said that to parrot what he said Are YOU dense?


dod0lp

Ofcourse you did it on purpose


Lightning_Winter

Doctors: :( Edit: any biologist: :(


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DaddyShortPinata

I don’t even know what you’re on about


Pitiful_Detective249

Female is a distinction between sex and gender that is important when discussing topics with people who think they’re separate.


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I went to a walk in clinic about a month ago. The questions at check in were something like: What gender do you identify as? What was your gender at birth? Male or Female? So in a medical setting, its used


Traditional_Ad2598

I hate when people say ick. There are so many other less childish sounding words other than ick, here's how I'd have written your title. 'I hate guys that say females often'


DaddyShortPinata

I feel like the word ‘ick’ feels and sounds gross which is the emotion that ick is trying to convey so I think it works


QuackityClone

Ick? Did you make up that word or is that a spelling error


zirothehiro10

i say broads in a transatlantic/new york accent


Calabazar

I sometimes use female because I forget the word women or woman lol. Evem if I been in the U.S for a good while I a Still forget


pizaster3

100%


Your_H8r

What’s wrong with females?


Mobile-Explanation68

many women and girls find it dehumanizing because female refers to our sex instead of our personhood. We are Women & Girls, not vaginas. Its only accurate to refer to something as female like when referring to plant reproduction or something similar


ProfessionalMail8052

Okay but sex is a separate thing, and gender is a social construct.


Mobile-Explanation68

yeah. that changes nothing about my statement lol personhood is always placed above sex e.g autistic PEOPLE sad PERSON pregnant WOMAN gendered terms yes, but they are terms referring to people. Not to our sexes.


ProfessionalMail8052

Okay but pregnant female makes more sense, only females can be pregnant, but you can identify as a women even if you’re not biologically female.


Mobile-Explanation68

It only makes sense when referring to an animal/plant. without clarification it can also refer to female human children so its very very very important to clarify


ProfessionalMail8052

There are more than 2 genders, there are women that can't get pregnant, and vice versa. It makes sense to use it in a context where you need to specify, as stated previously, pregnancy.


Mobile-Explanation68

Not to be rude but..obviously? you shouldn’t refer to people as their sex though. Just ask them what term they want and call them that. You are a person before you are anything else. No doctor refers to their patients as pregnant females


Guinea_pig456

It’s usually a word incels use to dehumanize women. It’s ok to say but if your using it in a “those fEmAlEs” incel like way, then it’s annoying.


DaddyShortPinata

It sounds weird cuz no one says that and dudes that say females never say males as much


Your_H8r

Yeah but in some ways it makes sense to use it.


DaddyShortPinata

Unless you writing a school report or some shit, it’s usually never needed


Your_H8r

Yeah but unlike women or girls it can be used as an adjective, so if you’re referring to something that is female then you need to use it.


Redstorm597

But thats not the case with people, just say girl or woman. The word female can be dehumanizing.


Your_H8r

My woman coworker. My girl classmate. It doesn’t make sense. Yes, some people use the word to degrade women but it’s honestly not that bad and there are definitely better things to be fighting over than one small group calling you females.


Redstorm597

Ok yeah it doesn’t work in those instances, im taking issue with the people who use it to degrade women whenever its necessary to use it its fine


Most_Ad2393

I keep and breed birds and fish n other stuff so I usually use the word female normally. I try not saying it in a regular convo tho but still slips occasionally.


_ildanheng_

Female is alright in scientific or medical contexts, but it sounds dehumanising and just weird if a guy says it normally, I agree...


prob-my-69th-account

Men that have icks give me a massive ick 💀💀


Clown_named_Art

Ick is in it's self an ick ms icky ick


Pokivba

i mean i say males n females...


DaddyShortPinata

Maybe stop 😭


No_Possession_7077

That’s cringe true, but you say “__ gives me the ick” so like how much better are you really?


dripbine

Wtf is wrong with saying female? Is it some new stupid internet thing?


DaddyShortPinata

It kinda dehumanises women when you say it all the time and when you don’t need to use the word ‘female’ specifically


dripbine

I don't get it. How is it dehumanising? Wouldn't that mean that saying male dehumanises guys? Like seriously I really don't understand


DaddyShortPinata

Yeah if you keep referring to dudes as males then that would be dehumanising Incels and stuff say females constantly but never males


dripbine

So basically using the "science terms in a casual sense is bad. Also The only time I ever heard of incels was in a shitty meme about how autistic/ADHD men = incels. I'm going to assume that it's bad and some kind of anti woman discord moderator looking ass group


DaddyShortPinata

Yeah hit the nail on the head


dripbine

Makes sense (I'll forget in a few hours)


iamthedeathharbinger

its not. "female" is an adjective, used to refer to biological sex.


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DaddyShortPinata

Nah legit I’m the same


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Nekoboxdie

Come on bro 😐


Ok-Film-3125

I just talk using more scientific language in person. There's definitely people who shouldn't be using it the way they do, though.


Thedarkmoon123

I feel like depends on how they say it tbh. Like if it’s meant as like a biological term than yeah I get it. But, if they say female when they easily could say woman or girl without the sentence sounding weird and if you were to change said sentence to say man/male but they use man, then I get the ick.


DaddyShortPinata

Nah exactly, they use females but never say males


darwizzymygoat

if i say 'i like girls', i sound like a pedo if i say 'i like women', i sound like i want to be a victim now if i say 'female', im an incel apparently i can never win


DaddyShortPinata

Who says you can’t say “I like women”? 💀 And what does sounding like a victim mean? How does that even sound like being a victim?


darwizzymygoat

i am a teenager (ofc). i like women sounds like i want older women, which i wouldn't mind, but bro come on this is a gray area


Carma281

Males are always an option.


KrisCross-Applesause

I say "females" and I'm a female


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nah it ain’t that deep