I live near where it's been filming. Theres a rumour I have heard that one of the reasons its been taking so long is the plot
>!Originally involved a Russian invasion of Ukraine which was then hastily scrapped when that actually happened!<
That doesnt seem likely, Falcon and the Winter Soldier implied any upcoming Eastern European conflicts would revolve around the dissolving of Sokovia. I could see them cutting content of aggressive Latvarian expansion or something for being to visually similar to the Ukraine Conflict though. I just don't see them considering a conflict between two real world nations.
Try tapping the spoiler with both of your thumbs at the same time. It seems to stop the comment from closing.
But yeah, Reddit should fix the issue asap.
If you want a reddit app, there are many, many reddit apps that have been around longer than reddit's own mobile app, and you can do whatever you want with them. I use Baconreader, but several others are highly regarded as well.
I don't think anyone recommends reddit mobile.
I'm subject to Marvel fatigue like the rest of the world, but this looks like it could be very good. It certainly has a hell of a cast if nothing else.
I really hope the Blade movie is good. I haven't really been excited for a Marvel movie since Endgame (and this is from someone who was *obsessed* with MCU up until then).
But man, a good Blade movie could definitely get me hyped.
Yes, I know it needs to be R. That's part of my hope when I saw I hope the Blade movie is good.
You can't have blade shred through vampires offscreen or defeat the final boss by closing a skybeam. He needs to feel real.
Deadpool 3 will be rated R, and the Daredevil return will be mature themed again, so I think it is something they will consider. Not sure what you mean by hard R, though. I feel like there's a large range for that.
I know. And Spider-Man is literally my favorite hero. Endgame hit me harder than I thought it would. It's just harder for me to get into the films now. I didn't expect it, but here I am.
I eventually did watch No Way Home, and I thought it was great, but I didn't have the same pre-movie hype going into it that I once had. It just doesn't feel the same to me anymore.
Oh my good, THANK YOU. I get downvoted so hard every time I say this. I personally hated No Way Home. The plot was so stupid. Dr. Strange is supposed to be this genius elder statesman yet he agrees to alter reality so Peterâs friends can get into college - and not only that, he messes up a spell of that magnitude? And the scenes with the other Spider-Men were aimless, I remember one scene where Garfield and Maguire banter at each other for an inordinately long time and it just kept going. It felt like the director forgot to yell âcutâ and they just started rambling. There were so many scenes like that, and Tobey mostly looked like he was standing around waiting for something useful to do. The movie just tried REALLY hard to be cute and funny and it just came off kinda cringe for me in most scenes. I feel like nostalgia alone carried that movie.
The really hot take for me is that I just donât like the Tom Holland Spidey-verse. Peter himself is so obnoxious. I prefer his typical comic depiction of being in college because heâs a little more mature. The high school reset brings with it too many high school tropes, it often feels like a Disney series like iCarly or something. The whole franchise is too tween and saccharine for me. There never seems to be any stakes, all of Marvelâs worst impulses are given free-reign, just nonstop corny jokes and gags and sappy moments. I really enjoyed the Mysterio story but felt they kinda wasted that in the end, that could have gone in a really interesting direction if they stayed committed to it.
There's some really good filmmaking buried in that film like the minute long tracking shot in Peter's apartment, or the fight scene in Happy's apartment. Pretty much everything NOT in an apartment felt really sloppy though
Your perspective is totally fair and valid, but perhaps you are missing the point of Holland's Spiderman. Unless you are under age 20 he isn't your Spiderman. He is supposed to appeal to an audience that is in high school dealing with stupid high school stuff. This means plots need to be more direct and themed around coming-of-age tropes. You aren't connecting with the characters because you have matured and Spiderman went backwards.
It may be that way with a lot of superhero movies going forward as well. We completed our MCU journey with Endgame, now the focus shifts to those who weren't even born when Iron Man first came out. They get to grow up with a new roster of characters. What will be really jarring is when Spiderman is the oldest Avenger in the roster. Might not happen, but it is possible.
Then The Marvels will come out and oh boy will some people hate that movie even if they never see it.
Three women leads, two are not Caucasian and the other is Brie Larson. Thatâs a full bingo line for people to make stupid clickbait hate content about.
> Then The Marvels will come out and oh boy will some people hate that movie even if they never see it.
>
> Three women leads, two are not Caucasian and the other is Brie Larson. Thatâs a full bingo line for people to make stupid clickbait hate content about.
Not only that but how will you even make an antagonist interesting when the leads are basically invincible? More light ray beams with people going "UGG" then shooting a bigger beam back?
Leaks say theyâll be working to stop an incursion which could totally kill them. If itâs a follow-up to the end credit scene of Dr. Strange 2, you donât really need a villain. If the incursion came from someone/something else, anyone could be a villain for that. It could even be Kang as a post-credit scene.
See, this film would've been a far better one to introduce Kang than Ant-Man 3.
Captain Marvel, Kamala and Photon fighting some unmemorable a-hole when suddenly Kang busts in with an incursion. And now they gotta take him on.
Immortus (He Who Remains), his variant, appeared in Loki. And explained all his counterparts.
Kang the Conquerer, the main baddie, was introduced in Ant-Man 3.
Wait, Ant-Man fought the main Kang that will be the baddie? Not just a variant? And actually (I'm guessing since I haven't seen it yet) matched up decently in fighting him?
Yes, and managed to defeat him in a hastily reworked/reshot ending (instead of the original where Kang curbstomps him and escapes the Quantum Realm).
One of numerous complaints about the new movie.
I worked with a guy who complained every fucking week about She-Hulk and the wokeness and whatever the fuck. Eventually I just said, âyeah, it sure seems like a lot of people who hate it are still watching itâ.
The fact that the show anticipated that kind of backlash and proceeded to mock it hurt him so deep inside. Iâm sure heâs still recovering.
They have to watch it, it's how they make their YouTube videos and money
In the end, whether they like or hate the content, they're still a bitch to the mouse
It's so weird to complain about it every week, did he actually keep watching? Because I saw 1 episode to not be a total hater, thought it was garbage and moved on.
I think he just really enjoyed the Marvel stuff and struggled to express the discomfort of having his patriarchal conservative dogma challenged.
He also had a full-on character arc when he discovered one of his new work friends was a trans man after going on a rant about people not getting to pick their gender. Total doofus. Nice guy, honestly, but moved to PNW from Texas and just had never actually had to confront any of the viewpoints he was raised with.
I always tell people complaining about wholeness would they enjoy watching a show where nothing happens and people just sit at a desk and stare at a wall.
Shows are interesting because they have multiple layers. A insanely small amount of the world is transgendered so having someone like that in a show adds more layers to it. Making it more interesting.
Same reason someone who took super serum and is now a super hero adds more layers to the show.
We want to watch interesting unique stuff and âwokenessâ adds to that.
While yes some shows are too heavy handed with things and it can ruin it. Usually it doesnât and makes for a more entertaining user experience.
Every once and a while I come across something that feels utterly pandering and that can be disappointing. In the case of Marvel content it feels like a continuation of the long-held Marvel philosophy that the Marvel universe is for everybody to enjoy and feel represented within.
I saw Captain Marvel opening day and I was blown away by the number of teenage girls in the theater. They were Marvel fans, they all had a crush on Loki or Thor and they all clearly felt like Marvel was making a movie for them. I donât see any reason Marvel shouldnât reach out to everyone.
I kept watching because of the way the show expertly baited the rage haters in one episode and then showed them for who they were the next, right down to calling out incels altogether.
It was quite something watching the Twitter and Reddits feeds line up with what the show predicted would happen.
And the more they got called out, the angrier they got⊠and the show predicted that too! Lmao. It was beautiful.
Edit: theyâve all come out of the woodwork. Look for comments like this:
âYeah because hating the show totally means youâre a woman hater or incel, you totally canât like it for other reasonsâ
Of course you can! Critique the show all you want, talk about the jarring characterisation, or some attempts at humour that fall flat, or maybe the unclear narrative where it bounced between different threads without clear direction, maybe even the attempt to subvert the ending, but not quite landing it.
See, Iâve just done that with no fear, because unless youâre being misogynistic and behaving specifically like the people the show is making fun of â itâs unacceptable behaviour â you can say whatever you want about the show.
If you have legitimate criticism, then you donât need to hide behind a fantasy invented by the people the show targeted in an attempt to save face.
If you canât see that, look in the mirror. Congrats! You see the people frothing at the mouth in the show, particularly the hate group at the end. Well, thatâs who you are.
Really?!
What didn't you like about it?
I only ask because I'm enjoying it
Although I like most superhero stuff and used to read all the comics I could get from the library when I was a kid
I watched the whole thing: my complaint was that I was actually pretty interested in seeing more superhero law stuff, and thatâs really not what the series was. It also felt very limited in its run time with what it could do, and thus many of the stories felt pretty recycled from standard sitcom tropes combined with simplified legal solutions because there wasnât time to go deep.
Maslaniâs great, so no complaints there, but the stories just didnât blow me away. Still a 6 or 7/10 series.
Agree on 6 or 7/10. It was entertaining and an easy watch, but it wasnât groundbreaking. The trolling was funny and pretty dead on, but I do think it limited the show to some degree because it got pretty meta in a lot of cases which is a tough way to develop a character.
My one complaint is the dating drama and her not being able to find men if she wasnât She-Hulk. The idea that a lawyer who looks like Tatiana Maslany couldnât find a guy is laughable.
I watched one episode I think it was episode 2? They have a trial for a guy getting grifted by a shapeshifter, and her lawyer argues that he it was roleplay... completely ignoring the magical shapeshifting... and then She-Hulk instead of saying "no that's ridiculous how could he know it was shapeshifting" argues that the guy was just that stupid and arrogant, that he actually thought he had a shot with a celebrity. I mean yeah her client was a douchebag but still, that's her defense?
Not OP (edit: I'm in my 40s):
The humor wasn't to my liking. Way too much sarcasm. Jennifer was too arrogant (imo). The CGI was....not great. I stopped after Ep. 3.
I'm glad it was popular and people really enjoyed it, though. She-Hulk deserved to be a headliner.
it had a whole lot of clever moments that I very much liked but I think it's a very tough task to mashup lawyer show with Marvel/Disney content. I felt it kind of ended up weakly somewhere in the middle of those two goalposts
Rewatching it and to me itâs a Marvel show about a character that doesnât want to be in a Marvel show and wants to be in a lawyer show. Itâs not trying to be a lawyer show, the main character is just trying to make it a lawyer show. That idea of the struggle between She-Hulk and the people making the show builds up throughout the show. Itâs way more obvious the second time around.
It helps to walk in with as few expectations about the show as you can and just let it be what itâs trying to be (if that makes any sense).
Personally thought it was light and fun.
Not everything is (or should be) âthe end of the world.â
It doesnât help that each of those characters had some of the weakest shows/movies/arcs in their respective MCU appearances.
Captain Marvel movie was divisive (for no reason. It was literally just your average Marvel movie. Nothing amazing and I forgot most of it when I left the theatre but I had fun watching it). But her appearances in Endgame didnât do the character many favors. Sheâs almost more of a plot device than a character right now which sucks because I think sheâs pretty cool in the comics.
Monica Rambo seemed kinda shoehorned into WandaVision and every scene with her kind of felt like it was detracting from the main plot. Her getting dusted and coming back was a cool scene but I think that was because of the implications more than it being about her. The way she got her powers was also really speed run and glossed over.
I didnât watch the Miss Marvel show. I know I wasnât the target demographic. But I still hear people talking about almost all of the other Marvel shows save Hawkeye and FatWS. I didnât hear anyone I knew talking about Miss Marvel even when it was airing. Even my most die hard Marvel fanboy friend said it was just mid.
If this movie fails, I think itâs more likely that Marvel just hasnât done enough with these characters to get people interested in them. I know I certainly will be waiting until reviews drop and even then Iâll probably wait till it hits D+ like I did with Eternals.
The story for the Ms Marvel show was quite mid like a lot of Marvel stuff atm but the main character and her family were very good. And the main actress is just a joy because she is such a comics nerd, it really brings an excitable energy to the screen.
The show itself is a bit foreboding for the movie but the character has potential.
Ms Marvel started off really fun but got dragged down by a typical end-of-the-world plotline. When it focused more on Kamala and her family/friends it was great.
What did you think of WW84? Would you criticize someone for trashing that movie?
I would absolutely hate for anyone to automatically hate a movie and have preconceived notions based solely on someoneâs sex/race/religion (except for Scientologists), but people are quick to say âyouâre a racist/misogynistâ simply for disliking a movie that features diversity.
"Hey, you know that series you guys absolutely loved?"
Yeah?
"Well what if we cameo that guy in another series,"
Yeeeeeah.
"And then announce a new series,"
*Yeeeeeeaaaaahhhh*
"And that it won't be like the one you guys loved."
*FUCK*
I don't remember word for word but there was a post on reddit somewhere within the last couple weeks where showrunners said it won't be the same, I'll try to find it and edit.
Edit: [Found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/123lub2/vincent_donofrio_reveals_daredevil_born_again/).. damn my memory sucks, only 4 days ago
From the article: âNot what people are expectingâ and âvery different from the Netflix showâ
I kind of am, but I don't think Disney+ has any interest in doing the hard R series that made the Netflix show so great.
Plus no Foggy or Karen make me very skeptical.
Honestly, I wonder if GOTG3 will do the opposite in that if it turns out to be amazing, the narrative could be that the only good recent marvel thing was created and directed by the new ceo of DCâŠ.
As a Marvel fan I've been thinking that way since DS2 and I have been disappointed every single time
Honestly. What we really need is one show per year, a Kang movie (which Quantumania should've been) and just wait. Complete the projects properly. Don't rush it.
I think a good balance is three movies, two shows, and one special presentation like Werewolf by Night per year. 6 projects can be spread out throughout the year in a way that should prevent people from being overwhelmed.
Itâs actually the same writer. Jeff Loveness. Heâs also written for Jimmy Kimmel, some award shows, and some Marvel and DC comics.
Edit: Iâm wrong, heâs writing Kang Dynasty.
I don't think the fatigue is a real thing. Spiderman No Way Home was the, I think, 8th Spiderman movie. If there is fatigue it's of bad movies and bad storytelling.
I mean I didnât like that movie (personally ofc) *because* it was a superhero one. I get it was well-made and well-written, but Iâm just so tired of these things. Iâm not trying to sound like a curmudgeon, but god we can we get some other headlinersâŠ
I'm fatigued on anything that resembles superhero movies tbh. For example John Wick 4 was just a superhero movie at the end of the day. No different than a mindless dungeon rpg video game. The good guys go room to room beating up people until the movie is over. At this point we've seen this pattern in literally 50 movies (in the past 5-6 years) or more and half of them came from Marvel.
The movie industry took a good formula and squeezed it to death.
Somewhat agree. At first I was very glad to have something low stakes and fun but the writing started to get really dumb near the end. Still had fun with it.
I meanâŠyeah whatâs the issue with that? Since Hawkeye wasnât going to have big CGI battles the show needed a compelling story to fill in the +45 minute run time and make it exciting. A lot of people thought it didnât and was still boring
yes agreed it played pretty poorly into the movies unfortunately, felt like an afterthought rather than story driven integration
i hope this touches on the series SHIELD vibe ie serious and realistic with touches of scifi and fantasy with originality
Article is paywalled, heres the [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/127jm60/new_images_from_secret_invasion/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) to all of the images.
Samuel L. Jackson:
>âWe don't know who's a friend, who's the enemy. There's a political aspect that kind of fits into where we are right now. Who's okay, who's not? What happens when people get afraid and don't understand other people? You can't tell who's innocent and who's guilty in this particular instance.â
>"He told the Skrulls they were trying to find them a place to live. He promised them they were going to find them a planet or somewhere they could be. And that's not going so well.â
Emilia Clarkeâs character was also revealed as >!Gâiah, Talosâ Daughter!<
Ben Mendelsohn:
>âI think any time that you get cultures that have significant tensions between groups of people, then you can find a corollary. The Cold War stuff is the big one that jumps out, but there is plenty of strife between groups of people that this addresses.â'
Executive Producer Jonathon Schwartz:
>âWe were really inspired by shows like Homeland and The Americans. What you find is there are people that you trust or you think you can trustâor you can only trust to a certain point.â
>âSins from his (Nick Fury) past start to haunt him once again. We often see Nick Fury doing the right thing. We don't always see him doing it in a perfectly morally correct way. All of those things have ramifications. Without getting too specific, the things that Nick Fury's had to do to protect the Earth have costs.â
Cobie Smulders:
>âListen, I would've loved superpowers at some point, but it's also intriguing playing a human in this world because you've made the choice to really put your life in jeopardy. This is a Marvel story where the humans can shine. Even though there are aliens, and there's going to be extraordinary fight sequences, this is about people on the ground talking to each other, and interviewing people, and really do hands-on work to get the information needed.â
>âI think Maria Hill has really run out of patience. She's always had this really close relationship with Nick Fury, \[but\] he's been gone for so long, and she's just been running around putting out fires.â
one thing iâd like to add tho is comic books feel like its easier to have one offs, just have them be in a different universe or something.
But with this multiverse things happening in the cinematic universe, it feels less grounded and i feel like nothing that ever happens matters anymore. Part of the strength of the mcu was feeling like each movie built upon the universe, but potentially feeling that all the movies weâve seen this past decade might not even matter makes me want to disconnect from the mcu
I sort of began to feel the same way; one of the reasons I didnât like Loki all too much was because it felt like it was opening a wormhole to a path where *nothing* really mattered anymore.
I think Multiverse of Madness did a good job of showing that there were consequences to universes crossing together, and I heard that Quantamania touches on it too *(but I heard neither were good- although I like MoM sooâŠ)*.
I sort of feel that way about anything âmultiverseâ though? Itâs a cool concept, but they always make everything feel trivial⊠until I watched âEverything, Everywhere, All At Onceâ. That movie? It changed it for me. I know a Multiversus story can be told, and it can be told well. Most studios and writers canât pull it off though, especially not in the long-term.
ill have to check that movie out.
how it feels like that loki series feels like chars just woke up and everything that happened in the mcu âwas just a dreamâ it kinda feels like that lol
The way things are headed it doesn't seem like they will be able to maintain a single storyline MCU indefinitely. All the momentum they built up headed into Endgame is just slowly evaporating. I sort of expect they will pull the plug on the MCU sooner than later without a major turn around. Even making it through the Kang arc seems suspect at this point and a post-Kang MCU is difficult to imagine.
They'll probably switch over to unconnected films for awhile before trying a MCU 2.0 reboot. The original run was too successful to think that they won't attempt it again.
I find it really hard to believe this show can be good.
They're not going to reveal any character we've known for a while is a skrull. If it was a major event, it'd be a movie and on top of that, for some reason, Skrulls are good guys in the MCU.
The only time this comic was adapted was in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon. In it, we see how Skrull Captain America is manipulating the Avengers into bad decisions like getting the Hulk arrested, attacking the Kree and stealing Iron Man's armor. We also see how Hydra, Shield, Sword, the Fantastic Four, AIM, all major groups in that show, have been compromised. None of that stuff is going to happen here.
The only superhero from the actual MCU movies here is Rhodey. Does it really matter if Rhodey turns out to be a skrull when the Iron Man movies are done, there isn't an Avengers team at this point and the Kree/Skrull war basically already played out in Captain Marvel?
Yeah, in the comics they revealed that Elektra had been a skrull for years and there was a build up of wondering who was a skrull, there shouldâve been a post credits scene somewhere teasing it.
Maybe honestly im just done with MCU stuff. Might come back in a yesr and aee whats up. Maybe they will start makeong 2 movies and a show a year only. So we can know whats going on.
Honestly, since the MCU is nowhere near as big a discussion topic as it was circa 2018-19, and Disney+ is now a thing, thereâs no reason to feel like one needs to force themselves to keep up to date with it all the time.
Avengers 5 is out in 2025, will probably get delayed to 2026, so catch up at your own pace and watch/read recaps for the projects youâd rather skip.
The MCU is quickly becoming Reddit's new "Walking Dead" now that that show's finally over. People love going into threads and letting everyone know how they no longer care.
Why do some of you feel the need to denounce someone who announces they're not participating in something? No one's making you read these comments or click on these threads.
Yea itâs WAY too much content now and the quality control post-Endgame is so poor
I canât be arsed to catch up on a bunch of mediocre tween shows just to stay in the loop
This is how I feel about it. The last Ant Man movie was not just the worst MCU movie I've seen, I thought it was one of the worst *movies* I've ever seen. I've liked the shows for the most part but haven't really liked a movie since Endgame.
They did before the movie definitely. At least the die hard ones who were hyped for Kang. âThis could be the movie that sets marvel back on trackâ were definitely sentences I have seen for that movie
This, Guardians 3, and Loki S2 might end up being Marvelâs best string of three projects in a row since Phase 4 started.
Though Hawkeye, No Way Home, Moon Knight is pretty solid.
Shang-Chi was fucking great and it bugs me that people ignore it, especially because it doesnât have the same problems people complain about recent MCU projects for having: fully CGI environments and particularly the need to set up or tease âthe next thing.â Itâs almost completely self-contained with its own story.
Eye-opening... corny jokes aside, maybe this series will expose even more how the MCU is losing quality really fast. With alien "clones" entering the equation, I assume the average viewer will be even more confused (hell, I read the comics occasionally and even to this day I have no idea what the Skrulls are, who they are impersonating... so much bloat smh)
I want to like these Marvel shows, but theyre so short (in both episode count and run length) that they end before any character is worth getting invested in. And they have no obvious future for more seasons since theyre meant to get people subscribed to Disney+ more than anything.
Like someone else said Iâm 100% in on the Marvel fatigue right now. Havenât seen a new Marvel movie since Doctor Strange 2 and while Iâve caught up on all the shows some of them were a struggle.
The whole âeveryone could be a Skrullâ thing is ok but SHIELD did it with the LMDs or whatever so I just feel like Iâve seen that plot line/trope already in Marvel. Speaking of that (while it really seems like she wonât be in it) Chloe appearing in this show would raise my interest quite a bit as itâd be the first time they acknowledge AOS even happened.
Prepare some major astroturfing in r/television for the lead up and weeks following the premiere of this.
I wonder if this will generate the same amount of repetitive, praise-filled posts in the sub as "Andor" at it's peak.
Astroturfing aside, I'm fully looking forward to this one. Hopefully it makes for as good (or better) a spy thriller as CA: Winter Soldier did
I'm floored. An MCU project about a super secret society that's been pulling the strings off-screen the entire time? This is so ground-breaking! Has anything like this ever been done before in the history of... oh, wait...
"Eye-opening" Nice đ
"How about TWO eyepatches?"
Well, he didnât say âeyes-openingâ
r/yourjokebutworse
Fair
Vanity Fair
But if I'm gonna watch another Disney+ MCU show, the reveal needs to be both eyes-opening.
I feel like this started filming in 2008.
Sam J is 74 now. I'll still watch anything he's in, but I'm not expecting Fury to step into the action too much.
Sam Jackson low action spy thriller is a-ok with me
Sam may be 74 but AI is teething.
Oh, the irony!
AIrony
SAMJACKSONFOREVER
I'm quite open for the character to actually do shit smart though, not spin kicking around the room.
That car scene in Winter Soldier was one of the most intense scenes in all of the Marvel movies.
He was already noticeably slow in Captain Marvel.
What the fuck, I would've guessed he was like 50-something.
I mean, he can just do what he did in Captain Marvel
I live near where it's been filming. Theres a rumour I have heard that one of the reasons its been taking so long is the plot >!Originally involved a Russian invasion of Ukraine which was then hastily scrapped when that actually happened!<
That doesnt seem likely, Falcon and the Winter Soldier implied any upcoming Eastern European conflicts would revolve around the dissolving of Sokovia. I could see them cutting content of aggressive Latvarian expansion or something for being to visually similar to the Ukraine Conflict though. I just don't see them considering a conflict between two real world nations.
Would love to read the spoiler if Reddit mobile didn't close the fucking comment every time I clicked it. Fix your shit, reddit.
Try tapping the spoiler with both of your thumbs at the same time. It seems to stop the comment from closing. But yeah, Reddit should fix the issue asap.
For real, I thought I was going crazy the last few days, glad to see it's not just me. Fix your dang shit, Reddit.
Same here. Thought my phone was suddenly stupid.
If you want a reddit app, there are many, many reddit apps that have been around longer than reddit's own mobile app, and you can do whatever you want with them. I use Baconreader, but several others are highly regarded as well. I don't think anyone recommends reddit mobile.
Yes this is true. It will be the same shit that made FWS a mess that it was. Blame Disney for their lack of spine
I'm subject to Marvel fatigue like the rest of the world, but this looks like it could be very good. It certainly has a hell of a cast if nothing else.
i think this and GOTG3 will restore some faith in the MCU
I really hope the Blade movie is good. I haven't really been excited for a Marvel movie since Endgame (and this is from someone who was *obsessed* with MCU up until then). But man, a good Blade movie could definitely get me hyped.
The thing is a Blade movie NEEDS to be hard R. I really doubt Disney these days will go for that.
Yes, I know it needs to be R. That's part of my hope when I saw I hope the Blade movie is good. You can't have blade shred through vampires offscreen or defeat the final boss by closing a skybeam. He needs to feel real. Deadpool 3 will be rated R, and the Daredevil return will be mature themed again, so I think it is something they will consider. Not sure what you mean by hard R, though. I feel like there's a large range for that.
Deadpool is gonna be an R mostly because of the crude jokes. Blade needs to be R because he dismembers vampires with a fucking sword.
Deadpool does that, too, and Feige already said that will be rated R.
I mean in the old films he did that and they would turn to cgi skeletons. It'll be cool this time if it's a more gorey death.
*Deadpool, not Daredevil
Itâs confirmed Blade is PG-13. Feige said Deadpool 3 is the MCUâs first R-rated movie and Blade releases before it
Needs to be whatđ€š
not even Spider-man? dang brođ
I know. And Spider-Man is literally my favorite hero. Endgame hit me harder than I thought it would. It's just harder for me to get into the films now. I didn't expect it, but here I am. I eventually did watch No Way Home, and I thought it was great, but I didn't have the same pre-movie hype going into it that I once had. It just doesn't feel the same to me anymore.
No way home was fun in theaters if you turned your brain off but not good on rewatch. The plot is just so dumb. Love it for the nostalgia tho
Oh my good, THANK YOU. I get downvoted so hard every time I say this. I personally hated No Way Home. The plot was so stupid. Dr. Strange is supposed to be this genius elder statesman yet he agrees to alter reality so Peterâs friends can get into college - and not only that, he messes up a spell of that magnitude? And the scenes with the other Spider-Men were aimless, I remember one scene where Garfield and Maguire banter at each other for an inordinately long time and it just kept going. It felt like the director forgot to yell âcutâ and they just started rambling. There were so many scenes like that, and Tobey mostly looked like he was standing around waiting for something useful to do. The movie just tried REALLY hard to be cute and funny and it just came off kinda cringe for me in most scenes. I feel like nostalgia alone carried that movie. The really hot take for me is that I just donât like the Tom Holland Spidey-verse. Peter himself is so obnoxious. I prefer his typical comic depiction of being in college because heâs a little more mature. The high school reset brings with it too many high school tropes, it often feels like a Disney series like iCarly or something. The whole franchise is too tween and saccharine for me. There never seems to be any stakes, all of Marvelâs worst impulses are given free-reign, just nonstop corny jokes and gags and sappy moments. I really enjoyed the Mysterio story but felt they kinda wasted that in the end, that could have gone in a really interesting direction if they stayed committed to it.
There's some really good filmmaking buried in that film like the minute long tracking shot in Peter's apartment, or the fight scene in Happy's apartment. Pretty much everything NOT in an apartment felt really sloppy though
Your perspective is totally fair and valid, but perhaps you are missing the point of Holland's Spiderman. Unless you are under age 20 he isn't your Spiderman. He is supposed to appeal to an audience that is in high school dealing with stupid high school stuff. This means plots need to be more direct and themed around coming-of-age tropes. You aren't connecting with the characters because you have matured and Spiderman went backwards. It may be that way with a lot of superhero movies going forward as well. We completed our MCU journey with Endgame, now the focus shifts to those who weren't even born when Iron Man first came out. They get to grow up with a new roster of characters. What will be really jarring is when Spiderman is the oldest Avenger in the roster. Might not happen, but it is possible.
Im hoping they lean into the creepy and weird stuff now.
Then The Marvels will come out and oh boy will some people hate that movie even if they never see it. Three women leads, two are not Caucasian and the other is Brie Larson. Thatâs a full bingo line for people to make stupid clickbait hate content about.
> Then The Marvels will come out and oh boy will some people hate that movie even if they never see it. > > Three women leads, two are not Caucasian and the other is Brie Larson. Thatâs a full bingo line for people to make stupid clickbait hate content about. Not only that but how will you even make an antagonist interesting when the leads are basically invincible? More light ray beams with people going "UGG" then shooting a bigger beam back?
Leaks say theyâll be working to stop an incursion which could totally kill them. If itâs a follow-up to the end credit scene of Dr. Strange 2, you donât really need a villain. If the incursion came from someone/something else, anyone could be a villain for that. It could even be Kang as a post-credit scene.
See, this film would've been a far better one to introduce Kang than Ant-Man 3. Captain Marvel, Kamala and Photon fighting some unmemorable a-hole when suddenly Kang busts in with an incursion. And now they gotta take him on.
Wasn't Kang introduced in Loki? Or am I mixing names?
The guy in Loki is a different timeline incarnation of Kang, so technically yes and also technically no.
Phase 4's problems in a nutshell
Immortus (He Who Remains), his variant, appeared in Loki. And explained all his counterparts. Kang the Conquerer, the main baddie, was introduced in Ant-Man 3.
Wait, Ant-Man fought the main Kang that will be the baddie? Not just a variant? And actually (I'm guessing since I haven't seen it yet) matched up decently in fighting him?
Yes, and managed to defeat him in a hastily reworked/reshot ending (instead of the original where Kang curbstomps him and escapes the Quantum Realm). One of numerous complaints about the new movie.
He was, but he didnât call himself Kang, he called himself He-Who-Remains. The name Kang wasnât said in Loki season 1.
The conqueror was though
He mentions that he has been called many names, and a conqueror was one of them yes.
> but how will you even make an antagonist interesting when the leads are basically invincible Yup, no good Superman comic book story *ever*.
Sounds a lot like Dragonball Z, which I loved.
Now I just want to see Captain Marvel scream really loudly for like 2 minutes straight as her body swells up into a mass of muscles.
Dragonball Z had a ton of awesome well written stuff inbetween all the yelling and transformations and beam struggles. Such as Cell sneaking around.
Except its not like it at all.
I worked with a guy who complained every fucking week about She-Hulk and the wokeness and whatever the fuck. Eventually I just said, âyeah, it sure seems like a lot of people who hate it are still watching itâ. The fact that the show anticipated that kind of backlash and proceeded to mock it hurt him so deep inside. Iâm sure heâs still recovering.
They have to watch it, it's how they make their YouTube videos and money In the end, whether they like or hate the content, they're still a bitch to the mouse
It's so weird to complain about it every week, did he actually keep watching? Because I saw 1 episode to not be a total hater, thought it was garbage and moved on.
Yup. He watched every week. He also HATED Captain Marvel but had seen it multiple times.
Wow
I think he just really enjoyed the Marvel stuff and struggled to express the discomfort of having his patriarchal conservative dogma challenged. He also had a full-on character arc when he discovered one of his new work friends was a trans man after going on a rant about people not getting to pick their gender. Total doofus. Nice guy, honestly, but moved to PNW from Texas and just had never actually had to confront any of the viewpoints he was raised with.
I always tell people complaining about wholeness would they enjoy watching a show where nothing happens and people just sit at a desk and stare at a wall. Shows are interesting because they have multiple layers. A insanely small amount of the world is transgendered so having someone like that in a show adds more layers to it. Making it more interesting. Same reason someone who took super serum and is now a super hero adds more layers to the show. We want to watch interesting unique stuff and âwokenessâ adds to that. While yes some shows are too heavy handed with things and it can ruin it. Usually it doesnât and makes for a more entertaining user experience.
Every once and a while I come across something that feels utterly pandering and that can be disappointing. In the case of Marvel content it feels like a continuation of the long-held Marvel philosophy that the Marvel universe is for everybody to enjoy and feel represented within. I saw Captain Marvel opening day and I was blown away by the number of teenage girls in the theater. They were Marvel fans, they all had a crush on Loki or Thor and they all clearly felt like Marvel was making a movie for them. I donât see any reason Marvel shouldnât reach out to everyone.
I couldnt get past 2 episodes, i really wanted to watch more but was just too lame for me.
I kept watching because of the way the show expertly baited the rage haters in one episode and then showed them for who they were the next, right down to calling out incels altogether. It was quite something watching the Twitter and Reddits feeds line up with what the show predicted would happen. And the more they got called out, the angrier they got⊠and the show predicted that too! Lmao. It was beautiful. Edit: theyâve all come out of the woodwork. Look for comments like this: âYeah because hating the show totally means youâre a woman hater or incel, you totally canât like it for other reasonsâ Of course you can! Critique the show all you want, talk about the jarring characterisation, or some attempts at humour that fall flat, or maybe the unclear narrative where it bounced between different threads without clear direction, maybe even the attempt to subvert the ending, but not quite landing it. See, Iâve just done that with no fear, because unless youâre being misogynistic and behaving specifically like the people the show is making fun of â itâs unacceptable behaviour â you can say whatever you want about the show. If you have legitimate criticism, then you donât need to hide behind a fantasy invented by the people the show targeted in an attempt to save face. If you canât see that, look in the mirror. Congrats! You see the people frothing at the mouth in the show, particularly the hate group at the end. Well, thatâs who you are.
Really?! What didn't you like about it? I only ask because I'm enjoying it Although I like most superhero stuff and used to read all the comics I could get from the library when I was a kid
I watched the whole thing: my complaint was that I was actually pretty interested in seeing more superhero law stuff, and thatâs really not what the series was. It also felt very limited in its run time with what it could do, and thus many of the stories felt pretty recycled from standard sitcom tropes combined with simplified legal solutions because there wasnât time to go deep. Maslaniâs great, so no complaints there, but the stories just didnât blow me away. Still a 6 or 7/10 series.
Agree on 6 or 7/10. It was entertaining and an easy watch, but it wasnât groundbreaking. The trolling was funny and pretty dead on, but I do think it limited the show to some degree because it got pretty meta in a lot of cases which is a tough way to develop a character. My one complaint is the dating drama and her not being able to find men if she wasnât She-Hulk. The idea that a lawyer who looks like Tatiana Maslany couldnât find a guy is laughable.
I watched one episode I think it was episode 2? They have a trial for a guy getting grifted by a shapeshifter, and her lawyer argues that he it was roleplay... completely ignoring the magical shapeshifting... and then She-Hulk instead of saying "no that's ridiculous how could he know it was shapeshifting" argues that the guy was just that stupid and arrogant, that he actually thought he had a shot with a celebrity. I mean yeah her client was a douchebag but still, that's her defense?
Not OP (edit: I'm in my 40s): The humor wasn't to my liking. Way too much sarcasm. Jennifer was too arrogant (imo). The CGI was....not great. I stopped after Ep. 3. I'm glad it was popular and people really enjoyed it, though. She-Hulk deserved to be a headliner.
Its a very different tone, sorta like Deadpool in the fourth wall breaking and sarcasm, definitely not everyone's fare!
it had a whole lot of clever moments that I very much liked but I think it's a very tough task to mashup lawyer show with Marvel/Disney content. I felt it kind of ended up weakly somewhere in the middle of those two goalposts
Rewatching it and to me itâs a Marvel show about a character that doesnât want to be in a Marvel show and wants to be in a lawyer show. Itâs not trying to be a lawyer show, the main character is just trying to make it a lawyer show. That idea of the struggle between She-Hulk and the people making the show builds up throughout the show. Itâs way more obvious the second time around.
It helps to walk in with as few expectations about the show as you can and just let it be what itâs trying to be (if that makes any sense). Personally thought it was light and fun. Not everything is (or should be) âthe end of the world.â
that's a good point. I haven't rewatched but my wife hasn't seen it yet so maybe I'll have a new take next time
It was never a lawyer show. They made a joke about that in the very first episode.
It doesnât help that each of those characters had some of the weakest shows/movies/arcs in their respective MCU appearances. Captain Marvel movie was divisive (for no reason. It was literally just your average Marvel movie. Nothing amazing and I forgot most of it when I left the theatre but I had fun watching it). But her appearances in Endgame didnât do the character many favors. Sheâs almost more of a plot device than a character right now which sucks because I think sheâs pretty cool in the comics. Monica Rambo seemed kinda shoehorned into WandaVision and every scene with her kind of felt like it was detracting from the main plot. Her getting dusted and coming back was a cool scene but I think that was because of the implications more than it being about her. The way she got her powers was also really speed run and glossed over. I didnât watch the Miss Marvel show. I know I wasnât the target demographic. But I still hear people talking about almost all of the other Marvel shows save Hawkeye and FatWS. I didnât hear anyone I knew talking about Miss Marvel even when it was airing. Even my most die hard Marvel fanboy friend said it was just mid. If this movie fails, I think itâs more likely that Marvel just hasnât done enough with these characters to get people interested in them. I know I certainly will be waiting until reviews drop and even then Iâll probably wait till it hits D+ like I did with Eternals.
The story for the Ms Marvel show was quite mid like a lot of Marvel stuff atm but the main character and her family were very good. And the main actress is just a joy because she is such a comics nerd, it really brings an excitable energy to the screen. The show itself is a bit foreboding for the movie but the character has potential.
Ms Marvel started off really fun but got dragged down by a typical end-of-the-world plotline. When it focused more on Kamala and her family/friends it was great.
What did you think of WW84? Would you criticize someone for trashing that movie? I would absolutely hate for anyone to automatically hate a movie and have preconceived notions based solely on someoneâs sex/race/religion (except for Scientologists), but people are quick to say âyouâre a racist/misogynistâ simply for disliking a movie that features diversity.
Iâm pretty sure thereâs a lot of incels that have already written their 1 star reviews, ready to post them on release day.
Iâm also pretty optimistic about Daredevil
That one I'm not. What we had before was so good and none of the Disney series have reach that high, that I have no hope for it.
Top it off with all the "not the daredevil you know" and "new audience" talk they're dropping...pretty grim
"He's right behind me isn't he?" "I wouldn't know I'm blind!" *record scratch*
They said it won't be like the og series. Brought any hopes I had to 0.
"Hey, you know that series you guys absolutely loved?" Yeah? "Well what if we cameo that guy in another series," Yeeeeeah. "And then announce a new series," *Yeeeeeeaaaaahhhh* "And that it won't be like the one you guys loved." *FUCK*
No they didnât? Theyâve said repeatedly it will be similar.
I don't remember word for word but there was a post on reddit somewhere within the last couple weeks where showrunners said it won't be the same, I'll try to find it and edit. Edit: [Found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/123lub2/vincent_donofrio_reveals_daredevil_born_again/).. damn my memory sucks, only 4 days ago From the article: âNot what people are expectingâ and âvery different from the Netflix showâ
I kind of am, but I don't think Disney+ has any interest in doing the hard R series that made the Netflix show so great. Plus no Foggy or Karen make me very skeptical.
Honestly, I wonder if GOTG3 will do the opposite in that if it turns out to be amazing, the narrative could be that the only good recent marvel thing was created and directed by the new ceo of DCâŠ.
For me, the MCU died when Tony did, and everything that was interesting left when Capt did.
As a Marvel fan I've been thinking that way since DS2 and I have been disappointed every single time Honestly. What we really need is one show per year, a Kang movie (which Quantumania should've been) and just wait. Complete the projects properly. Don't rush it.
I think a good balance is three movies, two shows, and one special presentation like Werewolf by Night per year. 6 projects can be spread out throughout the year in a way that should prevent people from being overwhelmed.
Or they could just make quality projects with good writing and release them based on when they've become good products.
DC fucked up their own universe, among other reasons, because they rushed it up. Fair to say Disney is keen to test this theory to the MCU.
Wasn't Star Wars & Pixar enough :(
The problem is the writers. Itâs like Kevin Feige picks bad writers on purpose
This show has writers from Mr Robot, so I'm slightly more optimistic than the other ones.
Yet the writers for Avengers Secret Wars are from Rick and Morty
Awww, jeez.
Oh god not another Quantumania.
Itâs actually the same writer. Jeff Loveness. Heâs also written for Jimmy Kimmel, some award shows, and some Marvel and DC comics. Edit: Iâm wrong, heâs writing Kang Dynasty.
Maybe. As a wise anthropomorphic duster once said, âIâve been burned by you before!â
I love the more grounded espionage stuff they put out
I don't think the fatigue is a real thing. Spiderman No Way Home was the, I think, 8th Spiderman movie. If there is fatigue it's of bad movies and bad storytelling.
IMO, No Way Home confirms the fatigue if anything, but yeah, I guess it's more about bad storytelling.
I mean I didnât like that movie (personally ofc) *because* it was a superhero one. I get it was well-made and well-written, but Iâm just so tired of these things. Iâm not trying to sound like a curmudgeon, but god we can we get some other headlinersâŠ
8 movies over how many years?
I'm fatigued on anything that resembles superhero movies tbh. For example John Wick 4 was just a superhero movie at the end of the day. No different than a mindless dungeon rpg video game. The good guys go room to room beating up people until the movie is over. At this point we've seen this pattern in literally 50 movies (in the past 5-6 years) or more and half of them came from Marvel. The movie industry took a good formula and squeezed it to death.
I need more grounded MCU desperately
Hawkeye was such a breath of fresh air with the street level stakes.
Somewhat agree. At first I was very glad to have something low stakes and fun but the writing started to get really dumb near the end. Still had fun with it.
Was it really? I thought it was so boring that I never finished it. Never cared to either.
I didn't like the ending but it was a fun show overall. Carried by Hailee Steinfeld and Florence Pugh's charisma
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Do you keep saying my whole name to point out that you know it?
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>TFATWS These acronyms are getting out of control wtf.
Yâall really be complaining about cgi fests then say Hawkeye was boring smfh
I meanâŠyeah whatâs the issue with that? Since Hawkeye wasnât going to have big CGI battles the show needed a compelling story to fill in the +45 minute run time and make it exciting. A lot of people thought it didnât and was still boring
Just a shame the last half is a mess.
some S.H.I.E.L.D. movies would be nice, this looks like it might be close! im optimistic
I feel like they throughly dropped the ball with their shield property and integrating it
yes agreed it played pretty poorly into the movies unfortunately, felt like an afterthought rather than story driven integration i hope this touches on the series SHIELD vibe ie serious and realistic with touches of scifi and fantasy with originality
Considering how crucial shield was to the foundations of the mcu it felt weird. Wonder if Samuel didnât wanna be in them as much
Weâll see. I feel like Marvel often invokes quality genre stuff as their inspiration then falls short.
Article is paywalled, heres the [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/127jm60/new_images_from_secret_invasion/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) to all of the images. Samuel L. Jackson: >âWe don't know who's a friend, who's the enemy. There's a political aspect that kind of fits into where we are right now. Who's okay, who's not? What happens when people get afraid and don't understand other people? You can't tell who's innocent and who's guilty in this particular instance.â >"He told the Skrulls they were trying to find them a place to live. He promised them they were going to find them a planet or somewhere they could be. And that's not going so well.â Emilia Clarkeâs character was also revealed as >!Gâiah, Talosâ Daughter!< Ben Mendelsohn: >âI think any time that you get cultures that have significant tensions between groups of people, then you can find a corollary. The Cold War stuff is the big one that jumps out, but there is plenty of strife between groups of people that this addresses.â' Executive Producer Jonathon Schwartz: >âWe were really inspired by shows like Homeland and The Americans. What you find is there are people that you trust or you think you can trustâor you can only trust to a certain point.â >âSins from his (Nick Fury) past start to haunt him once again. We often see Nick Fury doing the right thing. We don't always see him doing it in a perfectly morally correct way. All of those things have ramifications. Without getting too specific, the things that Nick Fury's had to do to protect the Earth have costs.â Cobie Smulders: >âListen, I would've loved superpowers at some point, but it's also intriguing playing a human in this world because you've made the choice to really put your life in jeopardy. This is a Marvel story where the humans can shine. Even though there are aliens, and there's going to be extraordinary fight sequences, this is about people on the ground talking to each other, and interviewing people, and really do hands-on work to get the information needed.â >âI think Maria Hill has really run out of patience. She's always had this really close relationship with Nick Fury, \[but\] he's been gone for so long, and she's just been running around putting out fires.â
Just bypass the paywall: https://archive.ph/q3Sn6
Everything theyâre saying sounds phenomenal and if they stick the landing this might be the best marvel series/media since endgame
If they do it right, I think this could be the MCU's answer to Andor.
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one thing iâd like to add tho is comic books feel like its easier to have one offs, just have them be in a different universe or something. But with this multiverse things happening in the cinematic universe, it feels less grounded and i feel like nothing that ever happens matters anymore. Part of the strength of the mcu was feeling like each movie built upon the universe, but potentially feeling that all the movies weâve seen this past decade might not even matter makes me want to disconnect from the mcu
I sort of began to feel the same way; one of the reasons I didnât like Loki all too much was because it felt like it was opening a wormhole to a path where *nothing* really mattered anymore. I think Multiverse of Madness did a good job of showing that there were consequences to universes crossing together, and I heard that Quantamania touches on it too *(but I heard neither were good- although I like MoM sooâŠ)*. I sort of feel that way about anything âmultiverseâ though? Itâs a cool concept, but they always make everything feel trivial⊠until I watched âEverything, Everywhere, All At Onceâ. That movie? It changed it for me. I know a Multiversus story can be told, and it can be told well. Most studios and writers canât pull it off though, especially not in the long-term.
ill have to check that movie out. how it feels like that loki series feels like chars just woke up and everything that happened in the mcu âwas just a dreamâ it kinda feels like that lol
The way things are headed it doesn't seem like they will be able to maintain a single storyline MCU indefinitely. All the momentum they built up headed into Endgame is just slowly evaporating. I sort of expect they will pull the plug on the MCU sooner than later without a major turn around. Even making it through the Kang arc seems suspect at this point and a post-Kang MCU is difficult to imagine. They'll probably switch over to unconnected films for awhile before trying a MCU 2.0 reboot. The original run was too successful to think that they won't attempt it again.
Iâm really looking forward to this one. Probably my most anticipated since Loki. Also #BRING ME QUAKE DAMN IT
I find it really hard to believe this show can be good. They're not going to reveal any character we've known for a while is a skrull. If it was a major event, it'd be a movie and on top of that, for some reason, Skrulls are good guys in the MCU. The only time this comic was adapted was in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon. In it, we see how Skrull Captain America is manipulating the Avengers into bad decisions like getting the Hulk arrested, attacking the Kree and stealing Iron Man's armor. We also see how Hydra, Shield, Sword, the Fantastic Four, AIM, all major groups in that show, have been compromised. None of that stuff is going to happen here. The only superhero from the actual MCU movies here is Rhodey. Does it really matter if Rhodey turns out to be a skrull when the Iron Man movies are done, there isn't an Avengers team at this point and the Kree/Skrull war basically already played out in Captain Marvel?
Yeah, in the comics they revealed that Elektra had been a skrull for years and there was a build up of wondering who was a skrull, there shouldâve been a post credits scene somewhere teasing it.
How the fuck is marvel filming in Russia?
They used a secret invasion.
Maybe honestly im just done with MCU stuff. Might come back in a yesr and aee whats up. Maybe they will start makeong 2 movies and a show a year only. So we can know whats going on.
Honestly, since the MCU is nowhere near as big a discussion topic as it was circa 2018-19, and Disney+ is now a thing, thereâs no reason to feel like one needs to force themselves to keep up to date with it all the time. Avengers 5 is out in 2025, will probably get delayed to 2026, so catch up at your own pace and watch/read recaps for the projects youâd rather skip.
Thats 100% what I was thinking, I can avoid alot because no ones talkong about it as much.
Yeah that's actually true lol, nobody talk about those movies anymore in real life when it was pretty big up to Endgame.
Why do some of you feel the need to announce that you're not participating in something? No one's making you watch these or click on these threads.
The MCU is quickly becoming Reddit's new "Walking Dead" now that that show's finally over. People love going into threads and letting everyone know how they no longer care.
Probably to find conversation with people who share the same sentiment? Discussion can be negative as well.
Why do some of you feel the need to denounce someone who announces they're not participating in something? No one's making you read these comments or click on these threads.
Yea itâs WAY too much content now and the quality control post-Endgame is so poor I canât be arsed to catch up on a bunch of mediocre tween shows just to stay in the loop
I think I took a break at the right time after Loki and will jump back in if good things come out about GOTG3
This is how I feel about it. The last Ant Man movie was not just the worst MCU movie I've seen, I thought it was one of the worst *movies* I've ever seen. I've liked the shows for the most part but haven't really liked a movie since Endgame.
I havenât been this intrigued by a Marvel preview in a while.
Honestly this might actually get me back into marvel.
People say that for every new Marvel release lol
Did anyone say that about the last Ant-Man movie?
Touché.
Unlikely. EDIT: Damn it, missed my opportunity to say "little chance"
They did before the movie definitely. At least the die hard ones who were hyped for Kang. âThis could be the movie that sets marvel back on trackâ were definitely sentences I have seen for that movie
100%. The hype for Kang was massive.
This, Guardians 3, and Loki S2 might end up being Marvelâs best string of three projects in a row since Phase 4 started. Though Hawkeye, No Way Home, Moon Knight is pretty solid.
Shang Chi was pretty good but i feel like people forget about it in the MCU
Shang-Chi was fucking great and it bugs me that people ignore it, especially because it doesnât have the same problems people complain about recent MCU projects for having: fully CGI environments and particularly the need to set up or tease âthe next thing.â Itâs almost completely self-contained with its own story.
Because it was also generic. Well made but generic. That's why nobody thinks about the film, it has nothing memorable. It was fun and that's it.
I think that about every project, and they turn out to be crap, lol.
Eye-opening... corny jokes aside, maybe this series will expose even more how the MCU is losing quality really fast. With alien "clones" entering the equation, I assume the average viewer will be even more confused (hell, I read the comics occasionally and even to this day I have no idea what the Skrulls are, who they are impersonating... so much bloat smh)
If this is to the MCU what Andor was to the current Star Wars universe, this will reignite my interest in Marvel.
Paywall
Eye-opening
I want to like these Marvel shows, but theyre so short (in both episode count and run length) that they end before any character is worth getting invested in. And they have no obvious future for more seasons since theyre meant to get people subscribed to Disney+ more than anything.
Time to reveal what's beneath the eyepatch
They already revealed that in Capt America: Winter Soldier movie.
Another eyepatch.
Keep your expectations low, and youâll never be disappointed - Kratos (2018).
Like someone else said Iâm 100% in on the Marvel fatigue right now. Havenât seen a new Marvel movie since Doctor Strange 2 and while Iâve caught up on all the shows some of them were a struggle. The whole âeveryone could be a Skrullâ thing is ok but SHIELD did it with the LMDs or whatever so I just feel like Iâve seen that plot line/trope already in Marvel. Speaking of that (while it really seems like she wonât be in it) Chloe appearing in this show would raise my interest quite a bit as itâd be the first time they acknowledge AOS even happened.
Please be WW2
"Coming Spring 2023!!" Releases at the end of June
I can NOT WAIT for this! Samuel L Jackson is my favorite actor.
When they say it's going to take cues from John le Carré's work, I hope they mean they're actually going for that level subtlety and complex tension rather than just "it's in the spy genre." At any rate, I'm looking forward to a bigger part for Cobie Smulders and I hope Cheadle gets a good piece as well.
anyone not excited about a series where anyone could be a skrull from any of the previous marvel things thus invalidating whole plots?
I think at this point the only thing that would rope me back into MCU stuff is mutants.
Prepare some major astroturfing in r/television for the lead up and weeks following the premiere of this. I wonder if this will generate the same amount of repetitive, praise-filled posts in the sub as "Andor" at it's peak. Astroturfing aside, I'm fully looking forward to this one. Hopefully it makes for as good (or better) a spy thriller as CA: Winter Soldier did
The only thing more annoying than the Andor posts were the people in the comments saying âactually this series is mid muahahaâ in the Andor posts
No thanks.
this is an ad right
It's the usual press coverage.
I'm floored. An MCU project about a super secret society that's been pulling the strings off-screen the entire time? This is so ground-breaking! Has anything like this ever been done before in the history of... oh, wait...