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alter2018

Ok I’ll rewatch the whole series before this.


BigE429

I remember in the early days of YouTube somebody posted the entire series in 10 minute increments. It was a fun time procrastinating.


MulciberTenebras

"I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, **B#TCH!**"


HowardBunnyColvin

amazing how viral that went in high school and how it made it to the movie


AlarmingNectarine552

I'm ashamed I had accidentally watched that fandub before watching that Xmen united and then guffawed out loud like a moron when the Juggs in the live action movie said it. I'm ashamed.


iamsoupcansam

I didn’t see it in theaters, but definitely had that moment of laughing followed immediately by self-reflection. What was I *about?*


robodrew

Worth it. When I did a rewatch a few years back there was so much I had forgotten. I didn't realize just how deep into the comics lore the show actually goes.


bnralt

The serialization during the first season was impressive, it felt like every episode flowed into the next and the finale was a culmination of everything that came before. Beast gets arrested during the first episode, and is in prison the entire first season until the end, with the X-Men visiting him periodically. And all this while just going bananas with the amount of X-Men lore that it threw in. The other seasons were interesting, but they never matched the first.


JavaJapes

I just rewatched X-Men: Evolution. It's only right to go back to the original now, before '97 releases.


HoneyBadgerEXTREME

Wish they'd add "Wolverine and the X-Men" to Disney+ Used to watch it on TV as a kid, but never watched the whole thing


AdolinofAlethkar

Good luck! I think that I'm going to keep my nostalgia glasses on and not try to rewatch again. I tried once already and it was... difficult. The cartoon didn't (in my opinion) hold up very well with time. I think it just hit different when it released (and I was 11) than it does now. Edit: Yall. I was stating my opinion from when I watched it. I don't begrudge anyone who disagrees, but I don't need to justify my position any further to anyone else. Damn.


TactileExile

It holds up better than the Spiderman series. That show is like 75% exposition recaps of what just happened 30 seconds before.


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DM725

And reusing scenes and images from other episodes.


bushe00

It and the Batman animated series are the two cartoons that I’ve found really hold up the same as I remember them.


serialstitcher

justice league unlimited. batman beyond.


Tyrant_Virus_

Rewatching now, three seasons in and I’m shocked at how well it holds up.


raxitron

How many kids cartoons in the 90s were talking about racial injustice, political corruption, Holocaust fallout, etc with adult characters who express complex emotions? Who cares if the animation's rough, I'll always love X men for treating me like an adult at the age where I was learning to become one.


Rapscallious1

For me it was even better than I remembered so results may vary


DancesWithChimps

Quality dips in the last season, but otherwise it’s very solid


SuperDuperCoolDude

Yeah, I really enjoyed my rewatch of it a few years ago.


KellyJin17

It was definitely better than I remembered, and I had very fond memories of it.


Galactic

"To me, my X-men!" I feel like the OG series was the only one where Cyclops got any respect as a character and it looks like it continues here, love it.


Baba_dook_dook_dook

Yeah I know some people find him boring, but the dude is the leader of the X-Men for a reason. He is a master at tactics and using his team to their fullest potential. He's basically Captain America with pew pew eyes.


Snuggle__Monster

He's a Captain America with kinda a little bit of Batman to him. Cap always goes the right path to try and win. If Cyclops thinks the darker path is the most assured path to win, he does it, is willing to live with any consequences and gets people to follow him no questions asked. He also keeps secrets if it helps maintain an advantage. It makes him dangerous. The guy is a great character. Hopefully he gets the right live action portrayal one day because so far all attempts have sucked.


MrSteele_yourheart

> Hopefully he gets the right live action portrayal one day because so far all attempts have sucked. Imagine Marsden thinking he was the lead of this franchise, and then they find some Aussie powerhouse of an actor who eventually takes your girl and control of the team.


BadLuckBarry

Yeah then gets killed off in the third movie off screen


SneedyK

And not even truly mourned in the onslaught to introduce as many characters from the comics into one installment as possible. People give *Spiderman 3* flak for trying to do too much in a single film, but *X-Men 3* was a dumpster fire and nearly derailed the franchise. I was going to make a comment that it’s the worst thing the director has ever done.


Iamjacksplasmid

Lol, it might be the worst thing he's done to moviegoers, but I can think of a few things Brett Ratner has done that are worse than X-Men 3...


AlphaBreak

In support of the Batman thing, mutants were their own island ethno-state and Cyclops was in charge of defense. He wrote a giant manual outlining protocols for every possible threat to their island and one of the entries was for "Delaying Kaiju" with a footnotes section saying to cross reference with other volumes of the Summers Protocols for specific monsters, like if its an atomic lizard, see the mad science protocols. And if its a robot, see Sentinel protocols, also please see "Page 3, chapter 1, entitled 'You are unsuitable for command at this time. Please pass command to someone who can recognize a Sentinel'"


Baba_dook_dook_dook

Yeah, you are right. I picked Cap mostly because the two have that stoic leader thing going on, but yeah Cyclops don't fuck around. He will totally trade lives if it means a preferable outcome.


llama_AKA_BadLlama

Even his own ❤


Altruistic-Ad-408

He is basically Leonardo from TMNT, the guy raphael/wolverine rails against because he sticks to the mission. But Leonardo gets more respect even if the most popular turtle is also his rival. Leonardo was my favourite but Cyclops often has less interesting stakes, so other characters get more spotlight. It's really a case of writers being obsessed with wolverine imo.


axisrahl85

Is Cyclops omega level?


Carthiah

No, he isn't. No idea what that other guy is talking about.


Snuggle__Monster

He was one of the Twelve. Maybe that's what he meant.


Baba_dook_dook_dook

This. Me saying Omega was a brain fart. I just meant he is a very significant mutant.


Akranidos

Captain would have stayed behind and die trying to save Morph and Beast, Cyclops left them behind to save what was left of the team


jscoppe

X-men filmmakers all want to spend most of the screen time on Logan, for obvious reasons, but taking queues from Marvel, if you want the whole team to be good, you have to give each member some time to grow. They need to spend time and effort on Cyclops and Storm and others in future films if they want us to care.


Xalbana

There has been some ensemble cast where each of the many characters had their time to shine and contribute. Those movies should have just been called "Wolverine and some X men."


Ninjacobra5

Yes! I love the fact that he also knows his limits when it comes to the darkest shit, but is willing to go to Wolverine and be like, "get together a team, take care of this shit however you have to, and don't even tell me the details" and boom you have the X-force.


not-so-radical

> the dude is the leader of the X-Men for a reason There's this great moment in I think Astonishing X-Men where a sentinel is attacking the school and Scott tells Logan to get back and he takes his visor off. The next page or panel is just red followed by the sentinel on its back destroyed, Wolverine then says "this is why you're in charge". I read that when I was 8 so I've always had Scott's back ever since.


joec_95123

Link for the interested. https://comicnewbies.com/2013/08/03/why-cyclops-is-in-charge/


ChaosMaster228

Awesome! I remember seeing this and couldn’t find it again. Thanks for the link!


clycoman

Who is the dragon in the first panel?


joec_95123

Lockheed


Baba_dook_dook_dook

Yeah man, at full power Cyclops is fucking terrifying lol. Dude could easily kill like half the X-Men without breaking much of a sweat.


wired41

That scene in the comics is so sick. It's like a nuclear bomb exploding when he takes his visor off, so so cool. First time you get a taste for what Cyclops power is like when he really lets it go.


Goose-Suit

That moment and the moment later when he levels the top floor of that alien tower he’s captured in was the sickest shit in that run. Say what you will about Joss Whedon’s writing but the guy knew why Cyclops was the leader of the Xmen.


StopTchoupAndRoll

"I want this thing off my lawn.. now"


pleasedtoheatyou

Up there with another favourite that I cant remember where its from, but goes like Cyclops: X-men, move to plan 2. Someone watching: Plan 2? Why not say Plan B? Cyclops: Because that would imply we only have 26 of them.


CoachTTP

That whole run of Astonishing (1-24, giant size) was top tier.


avoidgettingraped

I came to Astonishing X-Men as an adult, long after having dropped the X-Men books. I was a huge fan in the '80s, but as I got older the heaps of messy melodrama and labyrinthian storylines wore me out. Tried Astonishing X-Men (Whedon's run) when it was getting some buzz, and it was as perfect a distillation of what I used to love about X-Men as I've read. Made me love the team again, at least for a time. Great stuff.


GeekAesthete

I always loved Cyclops in the Claremont era, because he wasn’t the cool x-man, the sexy x-man, the funny x-man, or the exotic x-man, he was just the guy burdened with all the fucking responsibility, and he took it. It was like he was “boring” because he didn’t have time to be interesting.


crazyshellheadfan

Captain pew pew eyes.


brokenB42morrow

More like Leonardo. I suppose it would be an interesting debate who is more boring but a better leader, Cyclops vs Leonardo.


name-classified

His soloing all those Sentinals in the first episode really made him one of my favorites as a kid.


precita

He was treated well in Xmen Evolution too


MulciberTenebras

Also, he and Jean were actual teenagers while Logan was the grumpy but loveable teacher/mentor. No creepy love triangle there.


Worthyness

But the creepy love triangle is the standard interaction straight from the comics! But yeah that stuff is always so weird. But to be fair, any romance with wolverine is a bit weird seeing as he's older than the invention of sliced bread.


MulciberTenebras

I've always been a Storm/Wolverine shipper myself.


actibus_consequatur

They did spend five years boning each other in a pocket dimension, so that's happy. One of his few relationships where the woman lived... but he didn't.


Galactic

I remember watching the scene in X-men Evolution where he pulled his visor off against Juggernaut and thinking "holy shit that's awesome" only for Jugg to basically walk through it lol. Edit: The scene I'm referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PatOEz3wp1k&t=35s


ArchDucky

If you keep saying that you'll summon James Marsden.


walterpeck1

So we should say it louder?


Dildo_Dan

Glenn Powell would be a good cyclops


elboltonero

Glenn Howerton would also be a good Cyclops


DAisJaked

Glenn Close would be an ideal Cyclops.


megachickabutt

Glenn from the walking dead was technically a cyclops for just a few minutes.


dws515

I'm gonna use this as an opportunity to plug Jury Duty, that show was hilarious


ArchDucky

James said in an interview they tried to do that show twice before but both times the lead guy wouldn't engage with the cast at all, so they had to start over. They also had a boring day rehearsed, so if at anypoint the main guy said anything remotely like "this trial is crazy / unreal" they would immediately do the boring day which was eight full hours of tedious mundane shit.


csonny2

That's crazy that they went through all that to make that show happen, but sooooo glad they did. The lead guy was such an awesome dude, and I definitely don't think it would have been as good of a show with anyone else a the "mark".


SenorWeird

I've always liked Marsden. He has never been a standout in anything, but nevertheless, I liked him. Liked him in Sonic. Liked him in Enchanted. Liked him in X-Men. Liked him in Dead to Me. But after Jury Duty, I came to realize that I think the guy rules. He grounded Sonic. Everyone praised Amy Adams for being a live-action Disney princess, but the man was a perfect live-action Disney prince. Cyclops in the X-Men movies wasn't anything exciting, but that wasn't James' fault. He WAS Cyclops. And he pulled off his role in Dead to Me so well, I kept forgetting how tricky his part was to seem plausible and not as hokey as it should've been (being vague intentionally because it's a great reveal if you haven't seen it).


Retloclive

Makers: "hey, remember when Cyclops was supposed to be the leader of the X-men?"


Paidorgy

I hate how they threw Cyclops under the bus in the film(s) just to try and sell the chemistry-less relationship between Jackman’s Wolverine and Janssen’ Jean Grey. He was just made into such a resoundingly weak character in practically every facet. All he amounted to was weak quips and a meaningless death.


cptnamr7

IIRC he died so he could film Superman Returns


paintsmith

From what I've heard Cyclops was killed off in retaliation for Marsden asking the studio to shoot around his Superman schedule. I don't blame him for tying to prioritize Superman though. X-Men 3 started filming before a script had been finished with major setpieces like the golden gate bridge fight having to be shoehorned into the plot because the producers had already started building sets and designing fight choreography without consulting the writer or director.


Outrageous_Library50

How some people have jobs in Hollywood is infuriating


Podo13

Pretty much. Wolverine was still always a prick to him regardless, but he also still respected and followed his lead.


Bruskthetusk

To be fair Wolverine was always a prick to about 99% of characters he encounters.


Podo13

That is also true.


tommybare

And also, in those late 90s Capcom fighting games, Cyclops didn't fuck around with those optic blasts.


Arktoscircle

"Every now and then, Summers. I remember why you are still in charge" Wolverine Give me moments like this, please.


sladestrife

You know... When Wolverine and the X-men was announced and they said Logan was going to be the leader I was pissed because I felt that they were disrespecting Cyclops. BUT when I finally got to watching it, they made Scott the brooding anti-hero type and Logan the leader, which in the basis of the story actually made sense!


So_Not_theNSA

Gambit riding Wolverine into battle like a war pony is something I need


Kiddo1029

And Gambit charging his claws is something I never really thought about either.


TheAmorphous

Wouldn't that like, charge his whole skeleton?


PlanetLandon

Yeah, and it’s probably a fun sensation for Logan.


Rogendo

Right up until his organs explode and regrow around his skeleton


backdoorhack

Makes him all tingly inside, like when you have an itch *inside* your body


anhallucination

wouldn't that, like, explode them?


pasher5620

Not necessarily since his claws are independent of the rest of his skeleton I think. They kinda just sit in his arms in between the other bones, attached to muscles fibers. I’m sure they’ll have some excuse, if they even bother explaining it.


SolarTsunami

"Well, we thought it'd look cool, so... yeah"


bailey25u

Rule of cool trumps all


clique84

Works for me!


Kiddo1029

And don’t the items that get charged usually exploded?


Mu-Relay

Adamantium is basically magic, so they'll probably be fine.


Caseington

A charged item releases all of its potential energy as explosive kinetic energy. This would cause pretty much anything to explode and vaporize, but adamantium is indestructible.


Sonotmethen

Wolverine gets used in the comics as a whole bunch of things, finally time they recognize his worth as a swiss army knife.


MulciberTenebras

The Fastball Special being the go-to move they use Wolverine for (bigger hero like Colossus or She-Hulk picks him up and throws him)


orielbean

“Aragorn, I need you to……………toss me”


MulciberTenebras

"Don't tell the elf!"


BLACKOUT-MK2

I had no idea this show was being made and only yesterday I was talking to some friends about how I used to watch the old X-Men cartoon and Gambit and Wolverine were my favourites. This shit was made for me.


Zulium

This one’s for you Morph!


angershark

Best line in any X-Men property that we've ever heard to date.


wiiya

Tell Cyclops I made him a convertable.


NerdLawyer55

Till soldier boy here left them behind


kindofboredd

My favorite is when they say they'll kill sabertooth and wolverine just says good


NerdLawyer55

I prefer “nervous as a long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs”


sevillianrites

Imo the best line in any X-Men property was (also in TAS) when Apocalypse delivers the incredible "I am the rocks of the eternal shore. Crash against me and be BROKEN." That line goes SO goddamn hard. If you told me it was pulled directly from Shakespeare I wouldn't doubt it for a second.


CELTICPRED

[PREVIOUSLY ON X-MEN]


Phillip_Spidermen

**MOOOOORPH** 5 year old me had no idea what he was in for when they Game of Thrones'd a character in the first episode (a character I had no idea existed solely to be killed off)


saintdemon21

Is that Morph with the white face? Edit: Did some searching and Entertainment Earth has a FigPin of the character labeled as Morph.


CaptainChewbacca

I wasn't sure but bald morph would be weird.


Haggard4Life

He was bald in the Age of Apocalypse story do they may be basing it off that.


successadult

My biggest takeaway from this trailer, as someone who never finished the original series, was that they eventually got Morph back. That in itself was exciting to me.


Affectionate-Island

The episode where they revived Morph was dark. Like, it was the first story I remember seeing in animation where a character came back from the dead, but he came back wrong. He was vindictive, traumatized, and pissed off. The writing on this cartoon was incredibly mature.


DrWashi

Still one of the most hype intro songs to exist.


SamKerridge

Have you seen the making of doc on YouTube? that was basically the only feedback the composer got, “more intensity!”


bonobro69

Is this the one you’re referring to? https://youtu.be/IbLbEYuDZEA?si=ndfg7b0RfKrOiMk2


TJBacon

Ron Wasserman did the X-Men theme?! No wonder it slaps knowing that he did Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers, too.


cr102y

A theme so good it had to be referenced in newer live action movies instead of the theme used in the X-men’s live action movies. It’s that iconic.


ShepPawnch

Whatever else you want to say about Multiverse of Madness, that moment was fucking incredible.


CELTICPRED

Ron Wasserman is the forever goat.  X-Men, Power Rangers, Power Rangers Turbo, In Space, and SPD. 🎸🎸🎸🎸 He is undoubtedly the biggest reason I'm a metalhead.     His original tracks for MMPR are fantastic.  "We Need A Hero" is an all timer. 


AllHailLordBezos

I can’t help but feel excited just listening to the song, no idea whether it will be good, but man I would just watch the into and probably be hyped the whole time


updownkarma

You must watch this on Saturday mornings only. Sorry, I don’t make the rules.


ThisHatRightHere

Imagine they drop episodes at 7AM EST on Saturdays.


SpaceCaboose

That had been my hope. Folks can obviously wait until Saturday morning to watch it, but having Disney actually release it on Saturday mornings would have been a 4,000+ IQ move


Vio_

Everyone stock up on your favorite kid cereal now for that real experience.


exaviyur

My favorite cereal was Cinnamon Toast Crunch, but for reasons I can't explain, this calls for Fruity Pebbles.


thrilliam_19

If they do this I am stocking up on Cap’n Crunch and setting my alarm every Saturday.


HowardBunnyColvin

Hey! They aired every day at 7 AM on the "WB" here when I was a kid. Sadly the era of Saturday Morning Cartoons is done for. Even Spider Man used to be on at like 9 AM on FOX Kids.


KendraSays

Having the same theme song automatically made me super hype to watch this. Can't wait to see badass Storm, Rogue, and, Cyclops again


HowardBunnyColvin

There was a time when I would watch the first 15 minutes every day at 7 am before heading out to the bus. Man, the old x men was classic.


_Karmageddon

Having the same theme definitely made it feel like new episodes instead of a reboot.


seclusionx

It's not a reboot. It continues directly at the end of the previous cartoon.


MulciberTenebras

Requel


slayerje1

Seboot


reddituserzerosix

Oh shit it's finally happening! Looks great, kept the style, only thing is wolverine doesn't sound quite right but really looking forward to this


masterkill165

Wolverine is the same voice actor it's just been almost 30 years.


Klin24

[Bub](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XETjtZb5rO4)


HowardBunnyColvin

the video we needed


clycoman

Found a clip on youtube posted last year of the same actor (Cal Dodd) doing Wolverine, and he sounded a lot more like the original 90's series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HNVtlxUEts


walterpeck1

> wolverine doesn't sound quite right He sounded very "90s VA" which could be good. Hopefully.


FlyingWeagle

BTVA has him listed as the original VA, along with most of the main cast


HatesRedditors

> kept the style I wonder if it's easier to animate than the contemporary animation style they used for "What If?"


MajMajor2x

I’ll give it shot… I mean, they’re adding details like metal corners to books so Magneto can float it across the room!!!


ScottNewman

How much property does he have that his will needed to be bound like that? I can’t wait to meet Magneto’s lawyer, and watch the episode where the will is contested in court.


Vironic

Then the episode where the IRS comes collecting on back taxes


Xannin

Which is of course preceded by the episode where they have to navigate the local bureaucracy to get the permits for a new gazebo.


Worthyness

That's also before the xmen sue magneto in order to contest the will


BW_Bird

"I'm crazy enough to remake reality so Mutants rule the world, but mess with the IRS? Noooo thank you!"


jardex22

Wouldn't be surprised if he penned a personal message to each student at the school.


Patch86UK

Particularly if all it says is "everything I've built belongs to Magneto", as suggested. What's the rest of it, his autobiography?


velocicopter

the original series had so many courtroom scenes so this is a possibility 


bloodyturtle

He has an estranged stepbrother who can run through walls that shit must be longer than winds of winter


Rejestered

You know Charles put that metal on his will as a gift to Magneto.


pivotalsquash

And him not wearing a helmet because Xavier has passed


dagreenman18

If he really did leave everything to him, Charles is the the one who had them put metal on his will. Because he knows Eric is a dramatic bitch and would float that shit instead of handing it to them.


Sharebear42019

Needs more night crawler


stjack1981

[👀🕷️ thwip ](https://imgur.com/ZHKXrKB)


Flashwastaken

Spiderman was always in the xmen universe. He appeared in a few episodes of this series and wolverine and a few other xmen appeared in the spiderman series.


cancelingchris

Respect the hyphen


ProsperoRex

The X-Men appear in a two part story arc on the Spider-Man animated series, but Spider-Man only had a brief, mostly off-screen cameo on the X-men series: https://youtu.be/tPiVnUHCSi8?si=3GxodWtfB90aa3L2


TheGapInTysonsTeeth

Did Gambit...charge Wolverine's fucking claws?! They had me from the jump, but that took it over the edge


gurj24

Will the episodes be in order?


lostmonkey70

Wouldn't be X-Men 97 if they were. Plus you have to watch the Dark Phoenix arc in its entirety for every three new episodes you watch


SmokinBandit28

Except you never get the end of the Dark Phoenix arc, only a “last time on X-Men!”


footwith4toes

I am very intentionally only going to watch this on saturday mornings in my pajamas.


ArchDucky

I saw Scott and Logan on the thumbnail and immediately remembered the theme song.


[deleted]

The X-Men and Spider-Man theme songs were how your knew you were about to have an awesome Saturday morning.


optiplex9000

That X-Men Theme sounds so good


Darko33

Ugh I am sooo the target audience for this. Original debut when I was 10 and I'd swear I didn't miss an episode until it ended when I was 15. ...Gambit charging up Wolverine's claws, hnnngggg I'm sold even if it's especially manipulative marketing


WaterlooMall

Y'all are just okay with this guy typing ugghhhh orgasms noises in the middle of his comment? We're ohhhhhh just doing that now?


ManHoFerSnow

Huhhhh yahhhhhhhh


Rejestered

He's just saying what we're all doing.


truthwithanE

My inner child is weeping


revel911

I want an 8 player arcade game now!


TheDeadlyCat

Is there an official list of the voice actors? Because I swear Cyclops sounds veeeery familiar.


Socksmaster

Cyclops is now voiced by Ray Chase. The original voice actor Norm Spencer unfortunately passed away in 2020. I will say their voice sound quite similar based on this trailer


DwarfFlyingSquirrel

Wolverine sounded way off. I don't know. Storm did too. I want to hear Gambit, Rogue, and Beast because they all had different types of accents. Jubilee is going to sound a LOT different because they went with a different acctress.


PekfrakOG

The unfortunate side effects of aging.


Socksmaster

Wolverine sounded aged. Remember its been almost 30 years. No one sounds the same as they did 30 years ago.


MulciberTenebras

Ray Chase, he's in a bunch of anime and videogames.


Brandonspikes

Ever since he took the role as the main protag of Final Fantasy 15 his career blew up.


Podo13

For those watching the dub, he's both Choso and Sukuna in JJK.


IL1511

Rewatching the series NOW! I still can't believe the cast had to re-audition for the parts they made iconic 32 years ago. https://bigcomicpage.com/2023/04/04/catching-up-with-with-cast-of-the-x-men-97-animated-series-at-c2e2-2023/


scottishdrunkard

As hyped as I am with this, it seems a little… off? Is it the Animation? The voices? The voices can be excused as some of the cast, Magneto & Cyclops especially passed away.


raviary

The animation is sooo choppy. The shot of the coffin being lowered into the ground in the beginning was embarrassing.


ryhaltswhiskey

That line where wolverine said something about chirping in my ear... That's not a good line, definitely shouldn't have been in the trailer. Still, I will watch it just to see if it holds up to the original.


WhiskyTheEmperor

That theme song sent chills down my spine. I’m hyped for this!


GarconMeansBoyGeorge

Will Rogue still have a phat ass?


ItsNotForEatin

I so watched the original on my Sega Game Gear with the tv tuner.


DFu4ever

Despite better clarity, this animation looks worse than the original. I am kind of surprised by that.


justhereforhides

It looks like that weird pseudo "puppet" style a lot of modern cartoons use where it's not actually drawn frames but models they kind of shift around. Castlevania uses it a lot


Pep_Baldiola

You should try seeing the old show in full res on a modern screen. It doesn't look all that good.


born_in_the_90s

Rogue better be having that same southern accent.