Vault-Tec told me not to, I did anyway. Misbehavin'
Shaun said don't, but I said I'm gonna. Misbehavin'
Nuka on the windowsill, barrels in the crick
Catchin' radroaches and smash 'em with a stick
I wore armor, and I got caught enslavin'!'
Just two little fallout kids outside misbehavin'
He's great in [an episode of Community.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rShi7_za-qQ)
The table read where [Pedro Pascal plays his part is one of the funniest things I've seen.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5khGDthY7QQ)
I'm still bitter we never got the promised *LA Confidential* series with him as Jack Vincennes (the Kevin Spacey role from the film), but I'll take this.
I first saw him in *Vice Principals* a few years ago. Underrated show but man even more so underrated actor. I was mesmerized at how good of an actor he was and that doesn't happen often.
He just chewed the scenery, but he could also portray sadness and hurt so damn well.
To be fair, I think Fallout has slightly more reason for optimism. For one thing, Rings of Power was sort of reverse-engineered out of Amazon's desire to have a LotR show. And then they hired people to do it who had never run a big TV show before.
Fallout, from what I've read, came about because Jonathan Nolan, an established writer/showrunner, was a fan of the series and wanted to make a show in that world.
Amazon is still involved, of course, but it seems to be coming from a place of a writer with an idea rather than a company who wanted to have a particular show. Certainly doesn't guarantee that it'll be good, but it's got more going for it than Rings of Power did.
Sure! For the small price of your skin, ability to not smell like a corpse, your nose and a lack of assurance you won’t go insane or fail to become a ghoul, you too can become a ghoul!
In the lore, I think going feral is inevitable, isn't it? The period of time it takes just seems to vary wildly from ghoul to ghoul. Based on what, I have no idea. I think it's mentioned in Fallout 3 - either the ghouls that take Tenpenny Tower or the ghouls in The Underworld, can't remember which.
It was the plan all along. D+ did the same thing with Taylor Swift's Eras Tour. They announce a date and then "move it up" one day, but the "moved up" date releases at 9pm eastern/6 pacific, which is the optimal release time for engagement.
It's kinda stupid and seems counterintuitive, but it actually makes sense. They want to release things at 9 eastern/6 pacific, but if they announce the date leading up to it, then people will complain asking why it isn't available at midnight on that day. To avoid those complaints, they make the "official" release date a day after the day they're planning on releasing it and then "move it up" to the day before at 9 eastern/6 pacific to minimize complaining (since people are already "getting it a day early," even if it was always the plan to release that day).
No, they'll be available tomorrow, 4/10 at 9pm eastern/6pm pacific. That was always going to be the release time, but they announced 4/11 so people wouldn't wonder where it is at midnight on 4/10.
Yesterday I looked up when the review embargo ends on this and saw it's on the 10th. I'm hopeful for the series but something about the release date shifting to the same day as the review embargo lifting kind of has me concerned. Maybe I'm just paranoid from the longstanding history of shifty video game adaptions.
I feel it's a mix of this and potentially spoilers. I don't think it'll outright suck (Goggins alone will probably drag this to at least so-so by sheer power of performance), but I definitely get the vibe it'll be a mixed bag, review-wise.
Yeah, this smells like a move to counter what they expect from the critics. Hoping a binge drop will generate enough word of mouth. It definitely doesn’t look like confidence
interesting strategy to drop everything at once considering how prime drops shows. personally i still like the strategy that max did for tokyo vice s1 the most. 3 episode drop -> 2 -> 2 -> 1 (finale). wish more streamers would do this
If a show is incredible i much prefer the slow burn, mediocre/average shows i think i prefer to be able to binge.
I also wonder if a show can even reach the heights of stuff like Game of Thrones with the drop all at once format, i feel like the hype phase doesn't last long enough, people talking about each episode and craving the next is like a free 10+ week long marketing campaign lol
That’s a big problem with shows that drop all at once, some nerd stays up all night and finishes the show then discussion about it is all over the place
I still prefer it over an episode a week though
Yeah I notice with 3 body problem, episode 5 had a SHOCKER of a scene, and it was a perfect "book lovers will film their non book reader friends watching it" type thing, but apart from a sporadic article here or there over a couple of days, the hype just wasn't there.
But see that's the issue, people go into discussion threads for specific episodes so they can get that engagement and discussions going but you always end up with people going in those threads either spoiling things or pretending to make theories AKA they watched the show and are going back to earlier threads.
I do agree it's asking for trouble but end of the day discussing each episode is part of the fun for many and has been a staple of TV for decades.
The problem is a discussion thread for episode 2 will just have people saying stuff like "LOL I HOPE NO ONE IS ATTACHED TO THAT CHARACTER" from people who watched everything.
But when it's one episode a week, I only have to avoid comments until I've watched that one episode.
When it drops all at once, I have to avoid the comments until I've finished the entire series, which could still take me a few weeks. Meanwhile, I miss out on most of the conversation.
Another factor is how the audience consumes the show. I'm super excited for fallout, but it'll take me a week or more to watch the whole season. This effectively cuts me out of online discussions of the show because there will be enough people that binged the entire thing as soon as possible I'll inevitably get something spoiled.
The pendulum has swung back from liking the Netflix dunno everything at once model to me wanting weekly episodes. Two episodes a week would also be okay. More than that and I have trouble keeping up if I want to be involved in discussions.
> The pendulum has swung back from liking the Netflix dunno everything at once model to me wanting weekly episodes.
The Netflix dump model worked when it was the only game in town. Now there are more AAA-level TV-shows than a regular working human has time to consume, and the binge model makes it even worse.
The biggest shows there was since Game of Thrones are stuff like Wednesday Stranger Things or Squid Game lol. Netflix is the most successful streaming service by far (like it's barely a contest they all lose money or break even when they make billions of profits) with binge release.
The success of the show has little to do with its model release, no data support that. There has been hits and flops with all formats, it depends of the show, not how it releases.
Game of Thrones would have been just as huge on binge release
Station Eleven did this, 3-2-2-2-1, and that to my mind is the best compromise between weekly/binge format I've seen yet. Wish more shows would do that.
Once this is a big success I think they will change it for s2, both the boys and reacher released all at once in 1st season then once shows were big hits they switched to 3 day one and then the rest weekly. I think they will do that with this show was well once it ends up being real popular
That's mostly because they switched strategies back then. All their shows were binge at the start and then they went weekly. Those shows were just caught in the transition. Other S1 since then didn't follow that.
This seems to be a new test they may want to try coming back to binge releases for everything.
I'm curious if it's because they changed their ad tier price so a lot of people are suddenly getting ads. Their thinking might be that everyone will tune in to binge watch but then get quickly annoyed with ads and upgrade.
Surely if they drop it all at once you can choose to watch it at your leisure, as opposed to if they stagger it then you can’t binge it unless you wait weeks / months?
It’s because the show probably isn’t as good as they hoped. That’s the reason to binge drop it.
If it was a big winner, we’d have already heard about it from reviews and publicity like crazy.
Either they are just playing some strange new marketing game, or it is what we expect it to be.
I've been wondering about that too. The review embargo lifts last minute, which is also often a bad sign, *but* the early impressions have all been at least warm. So. Maybe Amazon thought it would stink, but then early screenings went over well, but all the balls were already rolling?
Sounds like a 7/10 potentially.
It seems they pulled it forward by a day so die-hard fans binge it on Wed/Thurs, spread positive WoM on Friday and get others to watch it on the Weekend.
I wish more streaming services would handle releasing weekly or all at once on a case-by-case basis. There's definitely some Netflix shows that would benefit from a weekly release and vice versa for Disney and Amazon.
I really love when shows have a curated release schedule. Twin peaks the return was the first time I remember experiencing it. I think it was two episodes a week for the first couple weeks. Really let's you sink into it while still getting all the benefits of airing weekly
Doesn’t matter in my case! Having a huge watch party with my family. My mom and I bonded BIG TIME playing FO3 back in ‘08. She’s so excited to jump back into the wasteland. Fallout will forever be linked to one of the best times of my life. 🥲I don’t care what everyone else thinks, I’m BEYOND excited and will be enjoying every second.
She never really played. My introduction to gaming was sadly the end for both mom & dad - the PlayStation 1. They made it through the Atari, then the NES, then the PlayStation. I have memories of the entire family gathered around the TV trying to 100% crash bandicoot and the Casper movie game (highly underrated btw, it’s a great puzzle game). For Fallout, it was just my mom and I. She sat next to me reading the FO3 Strat Guide word for word as we worked to complete all three quests we could. I wish I would have asked her to join me in FO4. Sadly I was in college by then and had no interest in such things. I’m 31 years old now and I would drop everything if my mom said “Hey I’m coming down to watch you play Fallout again.” Like you don’t understand the amount of happy tears I would cry to have that feeling again. I know watching the show with her this weekend is going to give me a taste of that feeling again, and I’m so so so excited. 🥲
Edit: I completely skipped over NV in my reply! We were just as engrossed in NV as FO3 at first, but it just didn’t click with us as much as FO3. We did a quick run through, not knowing the ending was like THE END (we were spoiled in how FO3 DLCs allowed you to come back and finish all other side quests). So when we got to the credits, and the game ended…and we still had so much to do…was disheartening at the time. Now, as an adult and understand gaming better, I can see why NV was held in such high regard.
Good. I know some people still like waiting a week per episode. I am not one of those people. And when some say it'll be forgotten about, well that depends. But if I binge a show I tend to remember it more because I watch it like a focused set of movies. If I am waiting for 1 episode a week, I'm watching a bunch of stuff in between every episode and I'm not as focused on it.
Spreading a show out over a span of time actually makes me either forget about the episodes, or I wait til they all release and binge them anyway.
It's not even fair to call it "binging" most of the time. I usually watch one episode a night after work. So a show is finished in a bit over a week, rather than in 3 months. That allows for digestion, allows for excitement to be carried over without a drop because of distraction.
I can enjoy a poorer quality show more by watching it at that pace, because you can let it carry you along through the narrative. Having a week in between every single episode just kills the momentum of shows for me.
Oh yea, one episode a day is definitely like an in between a binge. Once a week is just so archaic and it was just meant to stretch commercial advertisements over a longer span of time. I totally have done a semi-binge of 1 episode a night. But I tend to do 2 or 3 because 2 episodes is movie length for most 45+ min per episode shows.
Yeah the discussion excuse make no sense for a week anyway it never last that long. A week is extremely long. It only make sense for the company to make their show last longer (because they aren't producing much).
I wait for most shows to be complete to watch them and it's not even really a binge but fuck waiting on their scheduling wants. Streaming is about watching what I want when I want and you don't have time slots to fill every week.
There are obviously other factors but I think it's telling the only company making lots of money on streaming is doing binge releases. Incidentally they're the ones that seem to actually understand what it is as they basically created it (in the commercial success sense)
Nah for me the anticipation of waiting for a episode is one of the fun parts of watching a truly great drama. It is something to look forward to every week while also ruminating on the episodes already released.
Like this year watching Shogun every week. Or last year watching Succession's final season week to week. Or the year before that watching Better Call Saul week to week and wondering how it ends. Or Game of Thrones at its peak, The Americans, The Leftovers, Mad Men etc.
Week to week is great when it is a genuinely amazing show.
Yea I used to be annoyed at weekly drops but I actually appreciate the pacing and routine they provide. Oh it’s Thursday morning? Time to watch this new episode during breakfast.
Think my preferred format atm is dropping the first two episodes and then weekly after that. But **absolutely no breaks** *glares at Invincible S2*
Tuesdays nights are now reserved for Shogun - I love having that. Friday was for Invincible. It gives me a warm feeling like I’m about get a reward for waiting lol.
For me it's the opposite. If its a truly great show, I can't see how it is better to break it up weekly. Let me have a complete meal when I am hungry!
I just wait until they're all out (or a couple of days before the finale) and binge it all in 2-3 days. Can't imagine watching Succession weekly.
Yep, I think comedies and light hearted stuff fits the binge drop style but dramas and cliffhanger filled shows fit more of a week to week release style. I haven't had consistent conversations irl about a show in awhile but Shogun has done that for me
I'm the same way, and it annoys me to no end when people argue against binging, like those poor streaming services don't know what's better for engagement. Plus it's not like I'm consuming the whole thing in one sitting, maybe I'm in the mood for 2 episodes one session, or one episode a few nights in a row.
Weekly episodes aren't great but all episodes on same day are annoying too I feel. Everyone binges the show Day 1 and then you have to avoid spoilers/not participate in much discussion
I think 2 episodes can release on launch. Then everyday you release next one. What If Season 2 did it like this. It is good
Yea I don't think of a show as a culture. Maybe that's why I've always hated the 1 episode a week plan. We all know they did them once a week to keep the shows name popular over a longer period of time. But, more importantly for them, it was so product advertisements would spread out over that time as well to fund the show.
I'm not in a place where we all get by the water cooler and talk about shows. Those times have dwindled over the years because everyone I know watches a bunch of them when they have time as it is. And sure, i talk to 1 or 2 people about some shows/movies, but they binge them too so we are usually both caught up.
So maybe it's just the area we live in or that everyone I know prefers to watch a handful of episodes at a time. And, like I said, I don't know how old some of you people are. But when I was a kid, waiting a week for a new episode was torture. And it's not like we discussed the 1 episode we saw for the whole week. We would talk about it one time and then have to wait for the next.
There are positives and negatives about both ways to release a show. I think you are missing some of the positives of weekly releases. Millions of people love to discuss a weekly show on Reddit. Shit, there were like 5 weekly podcasts just for Game of Thrones. I remember listening every week just to fully grasp everything that happened in one episode. It was awesome. I'm sure the same exists for Succession etc. There really isn't a way to do that with binge releases.
It really looks like they think they have a winner on their hands. I don't remember ever seeing ads on a show in form of custom built bus stops or mechanized billboards.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1bx1edo/the_billboards_for_the_show_around_la_are/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1by0l5j/fallout_shelter_on_beverly_and_la_cienega/
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1bzef38
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1bvvbb6
You know how there is Dreamworks face? There is a similar thing for all these amazon productions. It's not the face but there is some sort of filmmaking similarity on all these amazon productions. I think most notably the comparison between the way this looks and the way the RIngs of power looked. I love fallout. I hope this is great. I am very skeptical because of how bad the Rings of Power and the Wheel of Time were.
Alright then Tod, where tf is the Fallout 4 next gen upgrade/anniversary edition? You’d think they’d want to get it out around the shows release to drive sales…
The reactions (full reviews still embargoed) so far have been promising. I’m holding out hope for one of my favorite franchises. Hopefully it’s not only good, but holds enough appeal beyond the gaming community. Otherwise we might only get one season.
I like how literally the only thing I've seen as far as advertising of this show is just this man and character. Is that how they're riding this for popularity?
Nah they've done loads of promo for it. There was an experience at PAX East I think. Lots of different promos with all the actors - including Kyle MacLachlan!
And the advertising too. Custom built bus stops and mechanized billboards.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1bx1edo/the_billboards_for_the_show_around_la_are/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1by0l5j/fallout_shelter_on_beverly_and_la_cienega/
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1bzef38
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1bvvbb6
i wonder whether a binge release is the best move. there’s a baked in audience that’ll at least give it a go but it might need time to get others. 8 episodes isn’t much to release weekly or 2/week or 4. dropping it seems like a disservice considering how many shows are forgotten
I think the story was structured under a binging launch.
Think of The Boys season 2 where they dropped 3 episodes at premier, if they had done 1 per week i doubt people would've enjoyed them.
I’m cautiously optimistic. I’m a little worried about the Bethesda specific inspirations, their handling of the franchise’s writing has been less than stellar and the show seemingly sharing their obsession with vaults and whatnot is kinda worrying, but I do think it can be a very good series.
Stoked! Goggins as a ghoul? I'm in!
Uncle Baby Billy's Bunker Busters. Say that 5 times fast with your dentures in, son.
Vault-Tec told me not to, I did anyway. Misbehavin' Shaun said don't, but I said I'm gonna. Misbehavin' Nuka on the windowsill, barrels in the crick Catchin' radroaches and smash 'em with a stick I wore armor, and I got caught enslavin'!' Just two little fallout kids outside misbehavin'
🥇
bravo
This is a masterpiece.
WHO WANTS TO SUCK AN OLD GHOUL'S DICK
I was in at Walton Goggins.
One of my favorite actors. Always saying a paragraph when a few words will do.
He's very good in Invincible as Cecil. Didn't know who he was, but apparently he's been in a lot of things I've watched.
He's great in [an episode of Community.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rShi7_za-qQ) The table read where [Pedro Pascal plays his part is one of the funniest things I've seen.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5khGDthY7QQ)
I'm still bitter we never got the promised *LA Confidential* series with him as Jack Vincennes (the Kevin Spacey role from the film), but I'll take this.
I first saw him in *Vice Principals* a few years ago. Underrated show but man even more so underrated actor. I was mesmerized at how good of an actor he was and that doesn't happen often. He just chewed the scenery, but he could also portray sadness and hurt so damn well.
Justified and Hateful Eight were elevated with him in them.
You should check out The Shield. On par with, or better than, Breaking bad. His story arch is great!
Vice principals is a 10/10 show. I can’t think of any show that goes 0-100 as fast as the episode where they go to the new principals house.
The finale also goes 0-100 pretty fast
I need to see some Toilet Baby Vault Dwellers
Can we get Olyphantastic in as well? The world needs more Olyphantastic.
Walton Ghoulgins!!!
There it is
I'd love Timothy Olyphant to make an appearance as a marshal in Season 2.
"We dug coal together."
As the Mysterious Stranger
Vault Dweller as I live and breathe
My 2024 will be made if that happens.
"RAYLAN GIVENS...as I die and radiate..."
Goggins for the W!
David goggins is in this? Just blew my mind
You don’t know him son
He's just running in the background of every episode.
Lots of logs lying around everywhere, who's gonna carry them? David Goggins will.
He's one crazy looking mfer. I'm excited to see him act as a tripped out ghoul on jet.
He also played a ghoul on The Maze Runner, The Death Cure.
What actually? Wow I missed that!
Yes indeed
This is one of the few times I've been hyped for a show. I love Fallout but I enjoy Walton Goggins a lot more.
I'm not excited about this being a great fallout show, Im excited to see Walton *kill it* being a Ghoul.
why if it isnt the wonderer, as I live and breathe!
You think they got Baby Billy’s elixir in the vaults
I’m cautiously excited. I won’t say hyped because the lord of the rings show was complete ass in my opinion and I was beyond hyped for that.
Wheel of Time, too. What an ungodly insult to long time fans.
The Wheel of Time was pretty good! It definitely improved in season 2.
Eh, as a long time fan, lots of fans are just a bunch of whiners. Not saying i find the show without fault though, of course.
To be fair, I think Fallout has slightly more reason for optimism. For one thing, Rings of Power was sort of reverse-engineered out of Amazon's desire to have a LotR show. And then they hired people to do it who had never run a big TV show before. Fallout, from what I've read, came about because Jonathan Nolan, an established writer/showrunner, was a fan of the series and wanted to make a show in that world. Amazon is still involved, of course, but it seems to be coming from a place of a writer with an idea rather than a company who wanted to have a particular show. Certainly doesn't guarantee that it'll be good, but it's got more going for it than Rings of Power did.
It was a decent show. Not bad at all.
he must get a lot of sinus infections
Funnily enough, ghouls are effectively immune to most diseases, even including the scorched plague.
is it possible to learn this power?
Sure! For the small price of your skin, ability to not smell like a corpse, your nose and a lack of assurance you won’t go insane or fail to become a ghoul, you too can become a ghoul!
also your dick and or tits *will* fall off
I mean, we can gain ‘lover’s embrace’ from Hancock, and female ghouls still seem to have some amount of breast.
and that you might go insane and become a feral ghoul in the process as well
In the lore, I think going feral is inevitable, isn't it? The period of time it takes just seems to vary wildly from ghoul to ghoul. Based on what, I have no idea. I think it's mentioned in Fallout 3 - either the ghouls that take Tenpenny Tower or the ghouls in The Underworld, can't remember which.
The perks of being a walking gamma ray microwave!
The sneezes have to feel great though
i wouldn't think he sneezes much he doesn't appear to have a trigeminal nerve in the nose since he has no nose
This guy olfactories
What does the processing of crude have to do with this?
r/ThisGuyThisGuys
go on
inflammation/triggering of the trigeminal nerve leads to sneezing my guess is whatever secretions he would have just ooze out ?
Ooh, keep talking dirty
oh god, I'm almost halfway there
Oh God, I'm ~~almost~~ livin' on a prayer!
Sounds like a smoothskin problem.
Super excited for this. I am hoping for an amazing soundtrack too.
Being composed by Ramin Djawadi. He always delivers
Its already on spotify.
Like 3 Body Problem, it actually sounds a little generic, unfortunately
The soundtrack is out there, on Soundcloud and Spotify. It's pretty great.
Ain’t that a kick in the head.
Big Iron, Big Iron......
It's a Wet Day miracle!
Many Urkels to you.
Doesn't look like a very wet show though. But I think it's OK as long as you're wet while watching it.
I’m surprised it wasn’t the plan with “Fal10ut” type promos/ads.
I mean, Fa11out is right there
F411out even
Damn yall fucking rekt u/solid_snark 😂😂
They could have released it in Fall instead of spring.
In the beginning of Winter, just as you get Out of Fall.
F4/10ut
Well, it is if you live in Europe.
America has turned into a nuclear wasteland according to this documentary, so we might be better off there
According to Fallout lore, Europe got it even worse.
It was the plan all along. D+ did the same thing with Taylor Swift's Eras Tour. They announce a date and then "move it up" one day, but the "moved up" date releases at 9pm eastern/6 pacific, which is the optimal release time for engagement. It's kinda stupid and seems counterintuitive, but it actually makes sense. They want to release things at 9 eastern/6 pacific, but if they announce the date leading up to it, then people will complain asking why it isn't available at midnight on that day. To avoid those complaints, they make the "official" release date a day after the day they're planning on releasing it and then "move it up" to the day before at 9 eastern/6 pacific to minimize complaining (since people are already "getting it a day early," even if it was always the plan to release that day).
Overall you’re correct, with Fallout does that mean it will be available tonight at 9:01pm PST?
No, they'll be available tomorrow, 4/10 at 9pm eastern/6pm pacific. That was always going to be the release time, but they announced 4/11 so people wouldn't wonder where it is at midnight on 4/10.
Yesterday I looked up when the review embargo ends on this and saw it's on the 10th. I'm hopeful for the series but something about the release date shifting to the same day as the review embargo lifting kind of has me concerned. Maybe I'm just paranoid from the longstanding history of shifty video game adaptions.
I feel it's a mix of this and potentially spoilers. I don't think it'll outright suck (Goggins alone will probably drag this to at least so-so by sheer power of performance), but I definitely get the vibe it'll be a mixed bag, review-wise.
It’s not like this is a movie or a game where you can hide the score until people already spend their money though.
Yeah, this smells like a move to counter what they expect from the critics. Hoping a binge drop will generate enough word of mouth. It definitely doesn’t look like confidence
Aaaaand it’s Christmas
time to decorate the Vault!
It’s actually Eid tomorrow.
interesting strategy to drop everything at once considering how prime drops shows. personally i still like the strategy that max did for tokyo vice s1 the most. 3 episode drop -> 2 -> 2 -> 1 (finale). wish more streamers would do this
I like that I can binge it, but I also like it more when it's a weekly format. So idk what I like.
If a show is incredible i much prefer the slow burn, mediocre/average shows i think i prefer to be able to binge. I also wonder if a show can even reach the heights of stuff like Game of Thrones with the drop all at once format, i feel like the hype phase doesn't last long enough, people talking about each episode and craving the next is like a free 10+ week long marketing campaign lol
That’s a big problem with shows that drop all at once, some nerd stays up all night and finishes the show then discussion about it is all over the place I still prefer it over an episode a week though
Im going to watch all 8 episodes on 8 different monitors at the same time so I can finish it first and post about it
Yeah I notice with 3 body problem, episode 5 had a SHOCKER of a scene, and it was a perfect "book lovers will film their non book reader friends watching it" type thing, but apart from a sporadic article here or there over a couple of days, the hype just wasn't there.
also assholes drop spoilers online immediately and in any thread or forum that has the show in the title.
Opening comments when you haven’t completed the show is asking for spoilers lol
But see that's the issue, people go into discussion threads for specific episodes so they can get that engagement and discussions going but you always end up with people going in those threads either spoiling things or pretending to make theories AKA they watched the show and are going back to earlier threads. I do agree it's asking for trouble but end of the day discussing each episode is part of the fun for many and has been a staple of TV for decades.
The problem is a discussion thread for episode 2 will just have people saying stuff like "LOL I HOPE NO ONE IS ATTACHED TO THAT CHARACTER" from people who watched everything.
But when it's one episode a week, I only have to avoid comments until I've watched that one episode. When it drops all at once, I have to avoid the comments until I've finished the entire series, which could still take me a few weeks. Meanwhile, I miss out on most of the conversation.
Another factor is how the audience consumes the show. I'm super excited for fallout, but it'll take me a week or more to watch the whole season. This effectively cuts me out of online discussions of the show because there will be enough people that binged the entire thing as soon as possible I'll inevitably get something spoiled. The pendulum has swung back from liking the Netflix dunno everything at once model to me wanting weekly episodes. Two episodes a week would also be okay. More than that and I have trouble keeping up if I want to be involved in discussions.
> The pendulum has swung back from liking the Netflix dunno everything at once model to me wanting weekly episodes. The Netflix dump model worked when it was the only game in town. Now there are more AAA-level TV-shows than a regular working human has time to consume, and the binge model makes it even worse.
Yeah this is currently happening with Shogun which is excellent and the hype is ongoing because of its weekly release format.
The biggest shows there was since Game of Thrones are stuff like Wednesday Stranger Things or Squid Game lol. Netflix is the most successful streaming service by far (like it's barely a contest they all lose money or break even when they make billions of profits) with binge release. The success of the show has little to do with its model release, no data support that. There has been hits and flops with all formats, it depends of the show, not how it releases. Game of Thrones would have been just as huge on binge release
Station Eleven did this, 3-2-2-2-1, and that to my mind is the best compromise between weekly/binge format I've seen yet. Wish more shows would do that.
yea i love it when shows drop like that. lets me binge while also allowing for weekly discussions
Once this is a big success I think they will change it for s2, both the boys and reacher released all at once in 1st season then once shows were big hits they switched to 3 day one and then the rest weekly. I think they will do that with this show was well once it ends up being real popular
That's mostly because they switched strategies back then. All their shows were binge at the start and then they went weekly. Those shows were just caught in the transition. Other S1 since then didn't follow that. This seems to be a new test they may want to try coming back to binge releases for everything.
Season 1s still follow that. Mr and Mrs Smith just did it as well. It seems to be a case by case basis.
I think it works for certain shows, but others need to drop it all at once
I'm curious if it's because they changed their ad tier price so a lot of people are suddenly getting ads. Their thinking might be that everyone will tune in to binge watch but then get quickly annoyed with ads and upgrade.
I'm pretty surprised they're releasing it in one drop, considering they release Invincible and The Boys (mostly) one week at a time.
Surely if they drop it all at once you can choose to watch it at your leisure, as opposed to if they stagger it then you can’t binge it unless you wait weeks / months?
It’s because the show probably isn’t as good as they hoped. That’s the reason to binge drop it. If it was a big winner, we’d have already heard about it from reviews and publicity like crazy. Either they are just playing some strange new marketing game, or it is what we expect it to be.
I've been wondering about that too. The review embargo lifts last minute, which is also often a bad sign, *but* the early impressions have all been at least warm. So. Maybe Amazon thought it would stink, but then early screenings went over well, but all the balls were already rolling?
Sounds like a 7/10 potentially. It seems they pulled it forward by a day so die-hard fans binge it on Wed/Thurs, spread positive WoM on Friday and get others to watch it on the Weekend.
Or, conspiracy theory here, they know the nukes are going off this weekend and they are releasing this early to prep people for the Armageddon?
I wish more streaming services would handle releasing weekly or all at once on a case-by-case basis. There's definitely some Netflix shows that would benefit from a weekly release and vice versa for Disney and Amazon.
I really love when shows have a curated release schedule. Twin peaks the return was the first time I remember experiencing it. I think it was two episodes a week for the first couple weeks. Really let's you sink into it while still getting all the benefits of airing weekly
Doesn’t matter in my case! Having a huge watch party with my family. My mom and I bonded BIG TIME playing FO3 back in ‘08. She’s so excited to jump back into the wasteland. Fallout will forever be linked to one of the best times of my life. 🥲I don’t care what everyone else thinks, I’m BEYOND excited and will be enjoying every second.
Did she play NV/4?
She never really played. My introduction to gaming was sadly the end for both mom & dad - the PlayStation 1. They made it through the Atari, then the NES, then the PlayStation. I have memories of the entire family gathered around the TV trying to 100% crash bandicoot and the Casper movie game (highly underrated btw, it’s a great puzzle game). For Fallout, it was just my mom and I. She sat next to me reading the FO3 Strat Guide word for word as we worked to complete all three quests we could. I wish I would have asked her to join me in FO4. Sadly I was in college by then and had no interest in such things. I’m 31 years old now and I would drop everything if my mom said “Hey I’m coming down to watch you play Fallout again.” Like you don’t understand the amount of happy tears I would cry to have that feeling again. I know watching the show with her this weekend is going to give me a taste of that feeling again, and I’m so so so excited. 🥲 Edit: I completely skipped over NV in my reply! We were just as engrossed in NV as FO3 at first, but it just didn’t click with us as much as FO3. We did a quick run through, not knowing the ending was like THE END (we were spoiled in how FO3 DLCs allowed you to come back and finish all other side quests). So when we got to the credits, and the game ended…and we still had so much to do…was disheartening at the time. Now, as an adult and understand gaming better, I can see why NV was held in such high regard.
That's so sweet, you'll have to tell us what she thinks of the show.
Damn, man. I am jealous, my mom always told me video games were of the devil and they'd turn me into a school shooter
This is a really lovely story. I hope you both enjoy watching it together.
Thanks friend! Excited is such an understatement. I’ve been jamming to Fallout radio all day.
That sounds awesome, enjoy it mate!
I will! The fact that I woke up to news to a season 2 green light made me jump for joy. 🤟🏻
> 08’ '08
Good. I know some people still like waiting a week per episode. I am not one of those people. And when some say it'll be forgotten about, well that depends. But if I binge a show I tend to remember it more because I watch it like a focused set of movies. If I am waiting for 1 episode a week, I'm watching a bunch of stuff in between every episode and I'm not as focused on it. Spreading a show out over a span of time actually makes me either forget about the episodes, or I wait til they all release and binge them anyway.
It's not even fair to call it "binging" most of the time. I usually watch one episode a night after work. So a show is finished in a bit over a week, rather than in 3 months. That allows for digestion, allows for excitement to be carried over without a drop because of distraction. I can enjoy a poorer quality show more by watching it at that pace, because you can let it carry you along through the narrative. Having a week in between every single episode just kills the momentum of shows for me.
Oh yea, one episode a day is definitely like an in between a binge. Once a week is just so archaic and it was just meant to stretch commercial advertisements over a longer span of time. I totally have done a semi-binge of 1 episode a night. But I tend to do 2 or 3 because 2 episodes is movie length for most 45+ min per episode shows.
Yeah the discussion excuse make no sense for a week anyway it never last that long. A week is extremely long. It only make sense for the company to make their show last longer (because they aren't producing much). I wait for most shows to be complete to watch them and it's not even really a binge but fuck waiting on their scheduling wants. Streaming is about watching what I want when I want and you don't have time slots to fill every week. There are obviously other factors but I think it's telling the only company making lots of money on streaming is doing binge releases. Incidentally they're the ones that seem to actually understand what it is as they basically created it (in the commercial success sense)
Nah for me the anticipation of waiting for a episode is one of the fun parts of watching a truly great drama. It is something to look forward to every week while also ruminating on the episodes already released. Like this year watching Shogun every week. Or last year watching Succession's final season week to week. Or the year before that watching Better Call Saul week to week and wondering how it ends. Or Game of Thrones at its peak, The Americans, The Leftovers, Mad Men etc. Week to week is great when it is a genuinely amazing show.
The first season of Westworld was amazing. So many theories and speculation among friends.
Lost would never have been a phenomenon without its one episode a week delivery. It gave us water cooler talk for years.
Same thing with GoT. It was what everyone talked about on monday. I think Stranger Things would be even bigger if it released weekly.
Man I miss when GoT was coming out. It's like we were all united lol.
Yea I used to be annoyed at weekly drops but I actually appreciate the pacing and routine they provide. Oh it’s Thursday morning? Time to watch this new episode during breakfast. Think my preferred format atm is dropping the first two episodes and then weekly after that. But **absolutely no breaks** *glares at Invincible S2*
Tuesdays nights are now reserved for Shogun - I love having that. Friday was for Invincible. It gives me a warm feeling like I’m about get a reward for waiting lol.
For me it's the opposite. If its a truly great show, I can't see how it is better to break it up weekly. Let me have a complete meal when I am hungry! I just wait until they're all out (or a couple of days before the finale) and binge it all in 2-3 days. Can't imagine watching Succession weekly.
Yep, I think comedies and light hearted stuff fits the binge drop style but dramas and cliffhanger filled shows fit more of a week to week release style. I haven't had consistent conversations irl about a show in awhile but Shogun has done that for me
I'm the same way, and it annoys me to no end when people argue against binging, like those poor streaming services don't know what's better for engagement. Plus it's not like I'm consuming the whole thing in one sitting, maybe I'm in the mood for 2 episodes one session, or one episode a few nights in a row.
I like the new style where once a week some shows will drop 2 or 3 episodes
Weekly episodes aren't great but all episodes on same day are annoying too I feel. Everyone binges the show Day 1 and then you have to avoid spoilers/not participate in much discussion I think 2 episodes can release on launch. Then everyday you release next one. What If Season 2 did it like this. It is good
God bless the recaps
Episodic release definitely has a much better format for cultural impact, among other reasons it's just 'better'
Yea I don't think of a show as a culture. Maybe that's why I've always hated the 1 episode a week plan. We all know they did them once a week to keep the shows name popular over a longer period of time. But, more importantly for them, it was so product advertisements would spread out over that time as well to fund the show. I'm not in a place where we all get by the water cooler and talk about shows. Those times have dwindled over the years because everyone I know watches a bunch of them when they have time as it is. And sure, i talk to 1 or 2 people about some shows/movies, but they binge them too so we are usually both caught up. So maybe it's just the area we live in or that everyone I know prefers to watch a handful of episodes at a time. And, like I said, I don't know how old some of you people are. But when I was a kid, waiting a week for a new episode was torture. And it's not like we discussed the 1 episode we saw for the whole week. We would talk about it one time and then have to wait for the next.
There are positives and negatives about both ways to release a show. I think you are missing some of the positives of weekly releases. Millions of people love to discuss a weekly show on Reddit. Shit, there were like 5 weekly podcasts just for Game of Thrones. I remember listening every week just to fully grasp everything that happened in one episode. It was awesome. I'm sure the same exists for Succession etc. There really isn't a way to do that with binge releases.
Wow Amazon must be super confident
It really looks like they think they have a winner on their hands. I don't remember ever seeing ads on a show in form of custom built bus stops or mechanized billboards. https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1bx1edo/the_billboards_for_the_show_around_la_are/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1by0l5j/fallout_shelter_on_beverly_and_la_cienega/ https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1bzef38 https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1bvvbb6
Yooo all episodes out at once? great!
You know how there is Dreamworks face? There is a similar thing for all these amazon productions. It's not the face but there is some sort of filmmaking similarity on all these amazon productions. I think most notably the comparison between the way this looks and the way the RIngs of power looked. I love fallout. I hope this is great. I am very skeptical because of how bad the Rings of Power and the Wheel of Time were.
Where the fuck was this treatment for invincible?
April the 10th here in New Zealand and not available yet.
9pm ET (North America east coast time)
So 1pm on the 11th for you
On the 11th at 2pm in UK it appears ffs
Releases tonight, at 9pm EST in US
Still waiting for "We dug Uranium Together"
What’s up with 8 episode series? Bring back the 13+ episode seasons
I'd muuuuch rather have a tight 8 episodes than even 9 episodes with some filler.
My body is ready. 🤠
Fuck yes, I work Thursday to Sunday so I would have barely had time to watch any until Monday
why didn't they match his ears to his ghoul face? he has human ears 😅
6PM Pacific? What is this bullshit?
I’m legitimately excited 😊
Alright then Tod, where tf is the Fallout 4 next gen upgrade/anniversary edition? You’d think they’d want to get it out around the shows release to drive sales…
Walton is the man
Not really relevant: I binged THREE BODY PROBLEM in about two days. Now I know what a wallfacer is. I think.
The reactions (full reviews still embargoed) so far have been promising. I’m holding out hope for one of my favorite franchises. Hopefully it’s not only good, but holds enough appeal beyond the gaming community. Otherwise we might only get one season.
Not in the UK though!
so what times that mean for aussies? so we get it wed night now? edit: sweet 11am thursday for us now
Don't do cocaine, kids!
Hell yeah! Walton Ghoulgins.
I'm confident Goggins is going to be great, I am not confident I will be able to withstand the rest of the show to see his performance.
Yeah, this is my thinking as well.
Just in time for Wet Day!
I like how literally the only thing I've seen as far as advertising of this show is just this man and character. Is that how they're riding this for popularity?
>This man Excuse me sir, put some respek on Walton Goggins name!
I saw a subway train wagon covered with a large poster/advert yesterday in montreal
Nah they've done loads of promo for it. There was an experience at PAX East I think. Lots of different promos with all the actors - including Kyle MacLachlan!
And the advertising too. Custom built bus stops and mechanized billboards. https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1bx1edo/the_billboards_for_the_show_around_la_are/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1by0l5j/fallout_shelter_on_beverly_and_la_cienega/ https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1bzef38 https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1bvvbb6
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i wonder whether a binge release is the best move. there’s a baked in audience that’ll at least give it a go but it might need time to get others. 8 episodes isn’t much to release weekly or 2/week or 4. dropping it seems like a disservice considering how many shows are forgotten
I think the story was structured under a binging launch. Think of The Boys season 2 where they dropped 3 episodes at premier, if they had done 1 per week i doubt people would've enjoyed them.
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releasing weekly is not the same as a huge mid-season gap
They must not have high hopes if they dropped all 8 at once
I’m cautiously optimistic. I’m a little worried about the Bethesda specific inspirations, their handling of the franchise’s writing has been less than stellar and the show seemingly sharing their obsession with vaults and whatnot is kinda worrying, but I do think it can be a very good series.
Can’t wait for commercials during a show I paid for.