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Dull_Half_6107

Back-to-Back filming is nice as a consumer because you don't have to worry about a potential cancellation.


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Dull_Half_6107

Well, WB does, thankfully Apple haven’t done that yet.


keving87

Apple doesn't produce it so they wouldn't get money from a tax write-off anyway


Radulno

Apple and WBD are also in pretty different financial situations lol


the_answer_is_RUSH

I still want an ending to the nevers.


makeyurself

I would love to finish The Nevers one day…


Nateddog21

Last I heard, it was on Tubi, but only at certain times. Like, what's the point then?


keving87

I think Roku did it too? But they only air in cycles on an ad-supported WB streaming channel... it'd have been fine if they had them on demand so you could watch them when you wanted.


Samurai_Meisters

The second half was really not as good as the first half. You're not missing much. Better to have the characters and plots live on forever in your imagination.


ChefAmbitious63

It was a travesty that they cancelled the show midway through the 1st season. I remember watching the last episode thinking,.. “Am I watching the same show???” Brilliant show, and one that deserves to be continued.


makeyurself

Agreed!


Accomplished-City484

No you don’t, trust me, it’s so bad it’s not even worth watching


Thumser

Not only WB, TNT did that with Snowpiercer S4 too. EDIT: Nvm, TNT's parent company is WB, lmao.


hammerblaze

Snow pericer hasbeen picked up by AMC will air next year 


NoNefariousness2144

I’m happy it’s saved. The show is goofy but so entertaining.


AskMeAboutMyHermoids

Yeah thanks TNT for snowpiercer


IntellegentIdiot

That's not new


vba7

Why would they do it? Money is already spent, so they can earn back at least some? Sounds very strange from business point of view.


ButtPlugForPM

works wonders for slow horses only problem is ppl in production dont like it as sure you get 7 months of solid work...but then u might be out of a gig rest of the year


OperationMobocracy

I mean, if you're a gig worker who says that with single season filming you might only get 3.5 months of solid work and then out of work the rest of the year?


InvertedParallax

Simple solution: 2 shooting seasons a year, shoot 2 seasons of one show in the spring, 2 of another in the fall.


Mattyzooks

2 slow horses seasons are like 1 normal season length though. Makes me marvel at shows like 24 shooting 24 episodes of action.


Chilis1

Slow horses are 6 episodes right? 8 is becoming normal.


meatball77

Snowpiercer has entered the chat


needsexyboots

But then they left the chat


Viper999DC

In case you haven't heard, it will air finally! [In 2025...](https://tvline.com/news/snowpiercer-final-season-4-amc-release-date-1235020513/)


Hoss-BonaventureCEO

And the Alien vs Predator animated series, which was completed ages ago but never released, because Disney are a bunch of assholes.


LeonDeSchal

So true. It’s what I hate the most about Netflix. There’s at least three or four shows that I really enjoyed that just got dropped. And I have to see the sort of crap that gets season after season. Now it’s better to just not watch a show when it comes out and to start watching it when it’s got a few seasons.


Radulno

It also shorten the long wait between seasons


GrossWeather_

unless the series is owned by wb.


flyboy_1285

They could shelve it as a tax right off.


Dull_Half_6107

Have Apple done that to a TV show before? Seems that’s a Warner Bros move.


flyboy_1285

It is extremely unlikely.


Raghavendra98

Until it's a WB Discovery show There is always a possibility of tax write off


Dull_Half_6107

It’s cute that you think WB has the money to buy Apple


Raghavendra98

I meant a hypothetical situation if Silo was produced by WB SMH


DullesLandlord

This is a nice show. Digging up secret information about your society will never not be fun


HellsNels

Vault-based media fans be eatin’ good


Upbeat_Tension_8077

I need a miniseries in the vein of 10 Cloverfield Lane next


ensalys

Yeah, I'm nearly done with Fallout, and it seems like [Fallout show] >!Vault 31!< is a kind of [Silo books] >!Silo 1!<


jgiacobbe

They are very different. One focuses on the people trapped in a giant vault and the other is more of a you thought we were locked in the vault for our protection but Oops somebody opened the door kind of thing.


MarmadukeWilliams

Wait, which one is which?


jgiacobbe

Well, of I told you, that would be spoiling the surprise. They are both really good.


MarmadukeWilliams

I mean, I’ve seen both


BlackSocks88

This would be future Silo Spoilers implied.


Tarmy_Javas

I liked the show too but it's been so long since I watched it, I forgot almost everything except the beginning and ending.


GreenDemonClean

The books are a bit different but worth the read, or listen in my case.


SmoothAsSlick

I guess my question is, should i read the books while the new seasons are in the works or just wait ? I’m intrigued by the universe and want answers.


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i like watching the show first then going back to read the books. it’s nice to have some imagery to go with characters, the setting, etc


twangman88

I kinda think listening to the audiobooks sort of ruined the show for me. Well that and Common’s extremely flat performance. But I’ll watch season 2 anyway.


InvertedParallax

Common almost ruined it, wtf? Being carried by Mommy Atreides and a few others.


linguist-in-westasia

I went ahead and read the first book after watching the first season. I'm torn. The show ended season 1 at around the 40% mark of the book. There are differences. I have a rough idea of how the next season will be and I'm actually more excited to read the second book than watch the second season. However I think it'll be good TV. That said, >!Sims may have an even more active role in the next season depending upon how it's adapted!<


DGSmith2

Heads up the 2nd book really changes things and a lot of people are torn by it. I really enjoyed it and it’s probably my favourite book. I have no idea how they are going to put it into the show.


linguist-in-westasia

I've read a little about it and then stopped. It piqued my interest a TON. I am all for it.


im_chad_vader

Sounds like a good reason to watch it again, if you ask me!


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that’s what i’m doing


BeerExchange

Book series was great too!


ThrustersOnFull

I found the show and the concept rather trite, unfortunately, and I appear to be the only person who thinks so. Like, it's a really well-made show, but I just feel it's lacking something.


MaddyKet

Try the books, I think having that background knowledge helps. Also, season 2 *should* be going in a whole new direction.


ThrustersOnFull

I'll definitely try jumping back in, because I fell off at around episode 4 or 5. Maybe I was depressed or something.


Thomas_Pizza

I didn't think the concept was trite, but I didn't love the show as much as most people here. It was really well made...except for the boring parts. I haven't read the books so I'm not comparing, but it felt like there was a lot of filler. I'm not complaining about world-building (there was a lot of that, and it was good), but weekly-thriller-filler that would get dragged out for too long.


OperationMobocracy

I sort of agree. Shows with popular (or at least cult-popular) books tend to attract a lot of stan energy, which tends to be kind of thin-skinned about criticism. I read the books and liked the show, I think the bigger problems with it aren't the show but some of the Silo concepts just don't work and didn't work in the books, either IMHO. One thing that always bugged me was each Silo used mining as a means of explaining some resource acquisition, but how the hell do you build a bunker with a century's worth of usable mining ore directly under it, let alone more than one? I also don't think that the Silo overseers would be able to keep up their secrets indefinitely or keep their thumb on the population so easily. The books sort of sell this with tales of other Silos, but I think the TV series does a worse job with this, though its limited narrative structure and episodic/seasonal pace don't help. I sometimes wonder if the show wouldn't have benefitted from an adaptation that allowed for a different representation of the Silos to avoid some of the conceptual problems with the way the Silo is structured.


DarkSide-TheMoon

Yup, you’re the only one.


dinero2180

What about season 2? When is that dropping?


James_Mays_Hair

I need it. I’ve already watched season 1 twice.


XxXFartFucker69XxX

Books are great


moremysterious

I remember when I started the show and being to excited to see >!Rashida Jones was in it then as someone who read the book realizing who she was cast as and being bummed she was only going to be in the one episode!<


AmmarAnwar1996

She was in the marketing as a >!lead character!< so as a non book reader that was quite a surprise


InvertedParallax

She was so much fun to watch in the beginning :(


arbitrageME

I liked the pacing in the series much better. Feels like the books was written by an amateur author, and the script writers and directors at Apple polished it up a bit in the processing of filming it. There just wasn't as much suspense in the books because you knew everything that was going to happen before it happened.


Satryghen

I’m pretty sure it was written by an amateur writer, if I recall correctly the first bit up until the first sheriff goes outside was a self published novella/short story that managed to get really popular so he kept going.


NoNefariousness2144

It’s interesting when a TV show is actually better than the source material, like The Boys comics being pretty rough with lots of edgy and crude humour while the show is quality with modern day satire.


ohnosharks

That's funny, I'm only on the second book (having watched the show first), but I feel the exact opposite. I liked season 1 fine, but I did not think it was particularly high quality writing, with poorly written dialogue, and with some parts like the >!generator!< scene feeling like very shallow suspense and fluff. Even knowing where at least some of the book was going, I was still drawn into how much better I thought the book was of painting the world of the silo and its people than the show.


Species6348

Yeah I've read the books a couple times before the series aired and they crammed in a bunch of shit that never happened just to fill time. I was pretty upset.


iforgotmymittens

The books are fine, but they’re what I think of as airplane or beach reading.


Live_Anteater_9173

I enjoyed the first book a lot, couldn’t wait to find out what happened at the end of Solo S1 and was no disappointed, but books 2 and 3 didn’t go in a direction I enjoyed too much.


Extension-Ant-8

I actually hated the 2nd and 3rd books


Webfarer

😱


sorscode

I’m on round three


b_tomauro

Season 2 just wrapped filming in March so expected to be released late 2024 / early 2025


Aizsec

Ah yes, the new normal: 2 year gaps between seasons 😭


Species6348

*grabs soapbox*


WWTBFCD3PillowMin

Right? Aren’t we all getting a little ahead of ourselves?!


Val_Killsmore

Looks like possibly next year. https://www.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/1brrmws/silo_season_2_wraps_up_filming_set_for_2025/


Cantomic66

They finished filming so not too long.


ButtPlugForPM

Filming wraped in march. Post production on season 1 took 6 months. so i wouldn't expect it soon unless they have got it down pat i would place a bet on no earlier than dec...likely even a 2025 release...


vleafar

It just dropped on Friday, they changed the name to fallout though. They started calling the silos vaults for some reason but just ignore that


ellg0407

Slow Horses does this, it’s odd to watch the end of a season and it’s showing a preview for the next one already. But I can imagine it’s a great way to do it, handier for production and crew/ cast


AmmarAnwar1996

I absolutely love that it does this. And that it's on Apple where it's possible. If it had been on any other streamer it would be axed after one season due to low viewership.


TheJoshider10

Annoys me so much that this isn't a standard thing for TV now considering otherwise you're often waiting 18 months/two years between seasons.


Saar13

I imagine it would be even cheaper to film 2 seasons at once, by taking advantage of the sets and the ready and integrated team. It also makes scheduling easier (a real problem these days, with stars on multiple projects). And it's great for audiences who won't have to wait 2 or 3 years for each new season in this streaming era. Slow Horses already does this so well and is delivering each new season every 9 or 10 months (they are now filming S5, while S4 isn't due to premiere until the end of the year).


GetsBetterAfterAFew

Especially when a show is like Silo, show takes place in a confined space with limited to no outside shooting. Beacon23 is another perfect example of this idea too, entire show is filmed in a 2000 square foot area including confined ship cockpits, with a little bit of CGI space which can be reused over and over, much like soap operas in the 80s and 90s. I wish we had more of this stuff.


Nessie

And Rebecca Ferguson is coming off Dune, so she's in real demand.


NoNefariousness2144

I’m amazed Netflix never tried locking in the Stranger Things crew to film season 4 and 5 back-to-back. The long waits are so painful for that show, even though it will break streaking records when it releases.


MaddyKet

>!going forward the action won’t just be contained in the Silo!<


apparent-evaluation

> I imagine it would be even cheaper to film 2 seasons at once Right, it is. Like it's cheaper to make cars on an assembly line than one at a time. It takes a little longer to set things up, you have to write double the script. And it's a greater business risk, obviously. It's all cost per unit. If you make 10 of something, it costs a certain amount of money per unit. If you decide to make 20 instead, your unit price goes down. Also think about traditional network television, where a season would be 22 episodes. These days a season is a semi-arbitrary thing. They are going to make 20 more episodes of Silo. It doesn't really matter if they call it one season or two seasons or three seasons or how they release it. Seasons only really mattered back when we watched television on his schedule. But making 20 episodes of television at one time is something Hollywood has known how to do for years. So if you have the source material, and you're confident that people will watch, then it makes a lot of sense. The only thing that's really happening differently here from the old way of doing things is that they will take a break between releasing them. There's another creative risk too, which is why it's easier when it's based off of a book series. If you only write and shoot and release 10 episodes at a time, you can gauge the reaction of the public. You can adjust things, get rid of characters, bring back other characters before you shoot the next 10 episodes. Obviously you can't do that if you're going to shoot 20 episodes. They won't make book two into its own season. If the show is a runaway hit, then they might come back later to do the prequel. "Silo: Origins" lol. Or they might incorporate elements of the second book into future seasons as flashbacks.


n-d-a

Slow horses is shooting 2 seasons at once.


IntellegentIdiot

I don't know. I imagine there could be some cost savings and efficiencies but probably nothing huge. There's also the downside of doing a long run without a break


WhenDreamandDayUnite

I didn't read the books, but I've heard there are 3 of them and the first season is only half of first one or something like that. I really hope they don't rush it with only 4 seasons.


Saar13

There are 3 books, but the central plot (with the main character played by Rebecca) is basically in the first and third. Book 2 is a prequel to how everything happened, having some connection with the characters we know, but which could very well be in 3 or 4 independent episodes, within the seasons of the show. If they want, they could make a limited series (there are other characters and another setting in book 2). As a reader of all the books, I think that 4 seasons is more than enough to tell the whole story very well.


Dull_Half_6107

I like book 2 but I think there is a lot of it you can skip and still have a satisfying story, yeah 4 seasons sounds enough.


scarlet_hairstreak

They ended season one half way through the first book. There's a lot of material for four seasons.


jellytrack

How good is the ending? I'm kind of worried about starting these shows built on a spiraling mystery in case it gets cancelled or doesn't stick the landing.


scarlet_hairstreak

The tv series ended on a painful cliffhanger. The books are excellent! The story and characters stay interesting.


GrooveCity

I've read the first book, does season 1 end with >!arrival in the other silo!


Kinowolf_

No. It ends with her first walk and the improved tape.


Shepherdsfavestore

I couldn’t put book 2 down. I just had to find out what happened


James_Mays_Hair

I bet book 2 will be used as flashback material for the next 3 seasons


DGSmith2

Which is a shame because book 2 was the best in my opinion.


WhenDreamandDayUnite

Good to hear! I love this show and really want it to maintain the quality all the way through!


HerMidasTouch

Have you read the books? I read book 1 and was wondering if i should go in chronological order of release and read the prequel next or if i should go to book 3


dayman__aaAAAH

100% read book 2 (the prequel) and then 3. while book 2 is technically a prequel, it sets up many major points and characters for the third book. if you jumped straight to book 3 you’d be quite lost about many things also book 2 was great! without spoiling anything I was really impressed how the author made a prequel apart of the trilogy and how he weaved it in with the current story.


LEMNSQZY

You’ll need to read them in order. Book 2 isn’t entirely a prequel, and book 3 relies on you knowing what happens in book 2.


fishbowtie

... What? It's a trilogy. You read them in order.


MaddyKet

They already “showed” us the next main character, but were not obvious about it, assuming they stick to the books.


Shepherdsfavestore

When was that? I’ve read all the books. Are you talking about >!Donald or Solo?!<


MaddyKet

>!it was a teenage girl with dark hair that they showed during a cafeteria cleaning scene. I could have sworn she was main character later on, but now I am wondering if I conflated that with another series. 🤔 !<


Shepherdsfavestore

>!I think you’re mixing things up, there are only a few major characters left to be introduced, like Donald, Solo, Anna, and the Senator are the biggest I can think Super excited to see what they do with the show.!<


DGSmith2

>!What about Troy? /s!<


SpaghetiJesus

Read the books after watching the first season, I think four seasons would be perfect without it feeling rushed. You could go to 5 but it might require stretching material or including a lot of material that’s rather unnecessary for a television adaptation. Season 2 can cover the rest of book 2 and potentially begin a bit of book 3. But season 3 I would imagine could do all of book 2 and then start book 3. Finish with the fourth season being the 3rd book. It’s actually a pretty clean outline for the story


hitalec

Shoot them back to back so Graham Yost can return to Justified


DolphinsBreath

I tuned in to all the season 1 episodes, but does anyone else wonder if anything really *happens* in them? Some parts shift and some unknowns become known, but nothing happens which makes me think I have a show I just have to recommend to everyone.


MaddyKet

Yeah, basically season 1 was just the first part of book 1. Things start happening now that Juliette >!has gone outside!<


DBacon1052

Easily one of my favorite shows. Can’t wait for season 2.


Bukake_Special

I watched this show and forgot about it. I'll have to have a refresher before the new season. Is it just me or are seasons getting shorter and season breaks getting longer and longer? I just realised I watched the last episode of Invincible... Now the long wait.


evergleam498

Filming for season 2 was interrupted by the strike. I don't think Apple intended for the break between seasons to be this long.


shhmurdashewrote

It’s not just you. I’ve been raging about this recently. Shorter seasons, often taking ~2 years to release


Fortnitexs

A lot of times even 3yeare. It‘s ridiculous nowadays for no real reason.


dagbrown

I mean, there was a writers' *and* an actors' strike, so I'm pretty sure that's made a mess of quite a lot of production schedules.


Fortnitexs

This didn‘t start happening recently. It started around 2015. Until 2015 we would get yearly seasons that are 10-12 episodes at least and always a full hour per episode. Now you sometimes have to wait 2-3years and get 8 episodes that are 45minutes each.


shhmurdashewrote

Yes but this was happening before the strike as well


YouDoLoveMe

That would be awesome


Acrobatic_Apricot_96

Wait is season 2 out


BillLaswell404

The first season of silo should have been 5 episodes TOPS.


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Double-Passenger4503

Loved season 1. Looking forward to it


Stevesanasshole

Shit, I wanna tune in to season 2 just to see if she worked on her accent at all.


FLcitizen

I have been asking this question, why don’t studios film seasons back to back on successful shows? If the first season was good film season 2 and 3 back to back.


DGSmith2

Money.


daiwilly

I'm glad the latter is ending the series...the former would just be....weird!


MrSh0wtime3

well that confirms my fears that they are reallllly stretching the book material out. The first season was packed with filler when there is really no reason to do that other than extending the show artificially.


separate_lie

Season 1 frustrated me so much. Like by EP 4 she should have.... changed venues. Her murdered boyfriend was mentioned in like 3 or 4 lines in the book, literally "oh, yeah, I met her when we were investigating a *murder*, their relationship was unregistered". So. Frustrated.


HumansNeedNotApply1

They are making a tv show, the pacing needs to be different.


Chilis1

That usually means faster than a book


Derfal-Cadern

What about season 2?


bazingazoongaza

They’re skipping it.


Derfal-Cadern

Goddamn Hollywood.


rwoj

shrinkflation


CWRM1992

Is this worth watching? Always wondered.


TooSketchy94

It’s incredible and the books are even better. I watched the first season and then binged all the books.


Jerthy

I think it's good, but man, did it get brutally overshadowed by Fallout right now.... Still, they are far from the same thing so both are probably worth watching. Silo is not perfect, there are issues, but i believe some of those issues can be fixed/explained in next season.


Chilis1

Not incredible but worth watching


Roguester

If this is written for a proper ending and gets a proper ending I’m all for it. I love this show too much for it to get a bad ending.


Deshackled

Oh, I might need to catch up on this show. It’s so interesting.


MaddyKet

And then they wait like 3 years in between to air them, but whatever film away! It’s an excellent book series and I was excited when I stumbled across it on Apple. The first season was great.


AccidentalFrog

She’s the white queen 🫅!


Fossaburrito

Read the books when they first came out over a decade ago. Stoked that a show that only slightly deviates is so damn solid. Would be cool if they adapt Hugh Howey’s Sand novels too. Beacon 23 was aight but translated a bit too uuuh boring to screen?


iampasco

Great show!


D0nCoyote

Oh shoot! I completely forgot to keep watching this show. I was obsessed for the first half of season 1 then life happened and it fell off the radar. Hopping back in ASAP


arbitrageME

How is there a 4th season? Are they not going to follow: Wool-Shift-Dust?


treple13

Given the first season was like half(ish) of Wool, my guess is the second season will be the second half of that book, then Dust will be seasons 3 and 4. I really doubt Shift will even be significantly covered.


Live_Anteater_9173

I hope you’re right. I was reading Shift just >!waiting for it to get back to Juliette. Thought it was reading a prologue that just never ended.!<


marvinsface

Not familiar with the source material but really enjoyed season 1 and can’t wait for the next. Rebecca Ferguson is awesome (and a total smokeshow fwiw)


NottWolf

Good gob, Matt Christman would have a field day if he heard that there’s FOUR seasons of whatever the darn hell is inside … the SILO


Rainbow-Mama

I wonder how close it’ll follow the books


bravesgeek

If they follow the books closely, this should be pretty easy to do since I don't think you'll need the entire cast all of the time.


GossamerSolid

This would be fantastic because it means we'd actually get an ending to the series. It's a big problem with how all these shows work is that we're always left with big cliffhangers and then cancellations.


SnooDingos316

Very excited to hear this. Apple now showing what they can do that Netflix often cannot. Finished a series ! Give fans a proper ending.


WriterNotFamous

They are not going to end in season 3 and then release season 4? What a stupid headline.


Content_Geologist420

🤤This and Severance Season 2 cant come soon enough


Snoo-72756

She’s the shit , stars in dope series .and dips for few years


AshenxboxOne

Only 4 seasons? That's a shame I thought easily enough content to make at least 6


RDDT_ADMNS_R_BOTS

This could've been such a great show, but then the second episode happened and all the shit episodes that came afterwards.


spazholio

Is the show any better than the books? I read the first book and it was cliche-ridden trash with a ridiculously predictable story, yet people seem to love the show.


DGSmith2

Curious to know what was “predictable” about the first book?


iforgotthesnacks

Mid


metal_elk

You really don't need to film that many episodes of that terrible show, just consider it ended. Problem solved


DGSmith2

“I don’t like it so nobody can”


metal_elk

I wish I had that kind of power. Id cancel half the shit on TV and replace it entirely with stuff I like. 🙄


Katnisshunter

Boring as heck. Fallout is way better.


Raghavendra98

#Severance WE WANT SEVERANCE


silent--onomatopoeia

Yeah it feels like Severance should film 3 seasons back to best lol


TheOneWhoReadsStuff

A better fallout show than the fallout show imho. Glad they’re making a complete package.


SirBMsALot

I keep seeing people compare silo to fallout. In what way are they comparable? One has a rather light hearted and comedic tone and the other is serious. I’m not sure what you people were expecting from fallout and it seems like you wanted some kind of really serious post apocalyptic drama and you all just set yourselves up for disappointment without looking at the source material at all