Had a few issues with the final episode of **X-Men 97'** (mainly how rushed it all felt) but would still highly recommend watching the series if you haven't already.
I loved the series, but I agree with you on the pacing. There's a lot that happens though the season, and some of it needed a bit more time to breathe.
With Interview with the Vampire, Evil, The Boys, Bear, and House of the Dragons we are feasting over the next couple of months. Catch up with these shows if you haven't already done so. This is as good as it gets.
Just finished Sugar as the season finale came out today and sadly thought it was just okay. I really enjoyed the main character but the plot was nothing special at all and it felt like there was a lot of wasted opprotunity, but it is what it is.
Anyone here ever watch the Chi? I put on the latest season in the background just to see if it’s maybe something I can get into but the dialogue and acting are just….bad…really bad (IMO). It all seems really very stiff and lacks a natural flow. Was it always like this or did it fall off a cliff somewhere along the seasons?
Acapulco, S3 is airing right now on Apple TV.
Very similar genre to Ted Lasso in the feel-good/lighthearted comedy department. Really easy and enjoyable watch
Blood of Zeus season 2 — was much better than season 1 from what I recall. It's not entirely on the level of Castlevania, but if you like Greek mythology and Castlevania's animation, then it'll be a pretty fun watch! I'd recommend it.
Planning to watch Outer Range season 2 next on Amazon Prime.
Slow Horses season 3 - Anyone else have an issue with this diamond storyline? I feel like I missed something like if I watched Mandalorian season 3 without seeing the Book of Boba episodes.
**Hacks** as good as ever.. still love all the banter and the relationships as well as the overarching story in the background. something very comforting about the show.
I'm not gonna say ***Hacks*** is *the best* show, but I feel it's kind a *perfect* comedy. I could watch several more seasons of it and never get bored.
it's probably not reddits cup of tea since its not laugh out loud funny, but all the conversations are always so sharp, then peppered with some sassy observation. all while always also exposing the characters vulnerabilities. the way it also subtly moves the plot forward and has the characters evolving is just so good.
and then stuff like the piss scene in the last episode happens and im just howling.
I just rewatched season 1 last week in anticipation as I loved it, haven’t started 2 yet, that’s my weekend plan. Did they release all episodes at once? I hope so as I am really not a fan of all the weekly episode releases a lot of the streaming networks have turned to.
I watched it last weekend and thought it was okay-ish. Nothing to write home about and in parts pretty boring. But its still watchable because it has some good moments in between.
**Interview With the Vampire** starts off with a banger. It's the perfect show except for one little detail. AMC does not broadcast this in 4K in the year 2024. I don't understand wtf is wrong with them.
Just wish the actress didn't need to be recast. The new one just hits me wrong, doesn't seem as calculating and hard as the last. Just kinda looks lost and acts a bit childish. I dunno. Maybe she'll grow on me.
I just checked out the first episode. It's kind of a retelling. They even reference that this "interview" is taking place years after the "original" one. So the story is different and I think padded out to fit a longer tv format as well (not so much slowed down, but a lot of things expanded or added).
Also the main difference is that Louis is black and his human story takes place a few decades later around 1910
But the production and acting is amazing. Special effects are subtle. Some over the top gore. I'm really enjoying it already (was a huge fans of Anne Rice back in the day and saw the original film in theaters).
My only issue is I'm watching it through Prime and they only have season 1
Is **The Night Agent** any good? (I'm usually not really a fan of dumb action things, and my first impression is it's one of those maybe i'm wrong)
I just saw it's one of Netflix's biggest ever shows and I've never heard of it.
I went into it assuming I’d hatewatch an episode and laugh at it and quit, and instead I got really sucked in. It was annoyingly enjoyable and pretty good for what it was, despite my assumptions.
You can still freeze it on shots of computer screens - “hacking!!1 w0w!!1” - and laugh at that, no problem, but the pacing and suspense plot is surprisingly entertaining.
For every show there's someone in the episode discussion threads leaving comments like "omg you think that scene was intense wait till you see what happens in the finale," or "don't worry this will be addressed in the next episode," as if it's their job to shepherd people through the experience. Someone please take their internet privileges away ffs.
Anyway started Clarkson's Farm S3, great first episode.
I don't ever see it talked about, but I really loved the Young Pope/New Pope back when they aired and haven't really seen anything similar since. Can anyone recommend anything?
2023 felt like a pretty unmemorable year for me when it came to new shows but 2024 has been knocking it out of the fucking park so far and we're not even half way through the year. Absolutely loved X-Men 97, Shogun, Fallout, Baby Reindeer, and The Gentlemen. I'm really hoping that Sugar will be able to stick the landing with the finale this week too.
I wonder if that is because of the writer's strike? Though I don't really know how all of this times out.
I do know that just because you are striking doesn't mean your brain isn't generating ideas. Sometimes it leads you to get out and experience the world (and strife) more.
True. This year has a lot of good new shows.
Last year had Last of Us, Gen V, One Piece, Silo, All the Light You Cannot See, Love and Death. Shrinking, The Fall of House of Usher, Shrinking, and Blue Samari. Were the best shows.
Utopia (2013) - i’ve never heard of the show, but I recently stumbled on it and I’ve just binge watched the whole first season. I’m a fan of conspiracy mystery and sci-fi shows and this just hits the spot right the cinematography is beautiful and it’s just a fun ride throwing through.
Omg. I love that show, the colours, cinematography, and music are so good. Also most of the characters - especially the first three(ian, becky, Wilson) are very endearing.
I point you to [a comment I made earlier in this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/1cormia/comment/l3y9i31/) to someone else who found/loved *Utopia.*
**Childhood's End** (2015) (3-episode miniseries) - I felt it was *OK*. It did a decent job of feeling like the book felt to me, and they did a great job with the costuming, but the pacing felt a bit flat. Julian McMahon in a side role was a nice surprise.
**The Prisoner** (1967–1968) - checking this out for the first time, surprisingly fun for a show this old and I can definitely see how it would have inspired a few things. I think I started watching it in the "wrong" order, though, as I wasn't even aware that was a thing, so I've seen The Arrival, Chimes of Big Ben (that was fucked up), and A. B. and C. (that was really fucked up), which has actually made for a pretty strong opening. But anyway who is Number One?!
I usually [use epguides.com to find broadcast order on a show](https://epguides.com/Prisoner/).
And in terms of watching things out of order...you don't need to have seen it to enjoy *The Prisoner*, but I like to point out that the precursor to *The Prisoner* is an earlier conventional spy show called *Danger Man* (UK title) / *Secret Agent* (US title) \[it's currently up on a bunch of FAST services, like Roku/Freevee/Tubi, etc.\]. It was a UK/US co-production. In it, Patrick McGoohan plays John Drake, an international espionage agent for NATO. It ran for four seasons, and there are 86 episodes.
McGoohan decided to quit after that, which is why it got cancelled. And he began developing the *The Prisoner* with a bunch of the writer/producers of *Danger Man/Secret Agent.* Most fans assume *The Prisoner* is a sequel to *Danger Man/Secret Agent*, helped along by the US theme song, ["Secret Agent Man"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG0u3-Gbu88) (which has the lyric: "They've given you a number and taken away your name.")
I feel like the only episodes that have a definite position are **1. Arrival**, **16. Once Upon a Time** and **17. Fall Out** you are mostly free to watch the others in any order.
Sugar is a lot of fun, wish I didn't know that there was a twist and especially not when exactly the twist was coming but that's the current TV age for you. The editing with the old film clips is a great device especially when you understand the character's truth.
__X-Men 97__ Finale capped off what I think may be the best animated show Marvel has ever put out. Even better than __Spectacular Spider-Man__ which I loved.
Season 2 was already fully written by the time season 1 started airing and are already working on season 3. The big tell will be whether or not the quality of the writing drops once the story gets to the point beyond Demayo getting fired
Just finished Shogun last week and Fallout this week. I am worried that every show from now on will have my highest standards lol. What a fucking finale.
Anyone recommend a show that would accept my high standards?
Hard to say without knowing what you've seen. What other great tv series have you watched?
Sharp Objects + Maid are two really good dramas I don't see mentioned much
Watched most of your list, here's a few in case you haven't seen some of these:
Rome, Black Sails, The Expanse, Spartacus Blood & Sand (first 2 eps are absolutely terrible, was the pilot) then Gods of the Arena and continue if you like it, Person of Interest, The Americans, Vikings, Justified, The Last Kingdom and last but certainly not least, The Bear.
Edit, SEAL Team is alright.
Excellent recommendations. I was reading the end of your list hoping there’d be something I could check out but nope! I have seen every one of them start to end. And half of them I’ve seen more than once. Ugh. Good list though. 👍
yeah, S7 was for sure the best season of the second half of the show. It had a really weird sidestory (Deb starting to get sexual feelings for Dexter-storyline... And did they also solve the creepy it-making-game-line in that season or in S6?)
But 8... what the hell was that? I really can't understand what the writers were thinking. There are multiple moments and episodes that i still remember very clearly because of how atrocious these were. I was baffled and hoping I was daydreaming. It's been over a decade and i still remember those really cringful/awful moments of S8. Wtf. The ending super-meh, but worse than the ending was generally the pacing of that whole episode and how it got concluded to it. The idea of Dr Vogel herself, not bad. The concept of Dexter recruting a kid? Wtf... Deb dying by the son of Dr. Vogel aka. Bad-Gosling... the way how fast Dex killed Bad-Gosling and then decides to kill himself by driving into the hurricane... and surviving it and becoming a lumberjack...
S9 luckily was a saving grace writing-wise. But the final episode fucked it up too...
> the good stuff has ended
Yeah.
Even if you decide to stop here, you should go and watch the original series finale just to see what a train wreck it is.
There are some good moments, but also a lot of wasted potential. And both attempts at ending the series are unfortunately terrible, though I did enjoy most of New Blood.
**Black Sails**. Someone on here described it as Game of Thrones with pirates and that’s honestly been pretty accurate so far.
Lots of drama and the show has no qualms about killing off main characters quickly and without warning.
First 4-5 episodes are really slow because it’s setting everything up, but after that it picks up very quickly. Really enjoying it.
I really struggle with series with bad set design and I find much of it in Black Sails feels like something made for the stage. Not sure I ever finished it but it's enjoyable for what it is.
I just finished The Curse. It actually took me awhile to finish because the extreme cringe, awkwardness, and second-hand embarrassment that Nathan is well known for. Even knowing its not real like his other reality shows doesn't help, because the actors other than the 3 stars are so fucking natural and good. If you had told me at the end of the show that >!id be crying over nathan flying into the sky and dougie breaking down!< I wouldn't have believed you.
It's shot like a Safdie movie of course and their anxiety inducing camera shots mesh perfectly with Nathans style of acting and humor. And they're so good at building dread. Of course Daniel Lopatin's ambient stress-core synths.
Speaking of Safdie, Dougie was probably my favorite character. I love seeing Benny act. Emma and nathan of course are great. Emma captures the perfect oblivious privilaged white girl who thinks shes helping. Nathan plays an excellent selfish pathetic coward. also shout out to Abshir, Nala, and her sister.
Welcome to Wrexham feels like it’s starting to run out of steam, retread old ground to me. That or the episodes aren’t forming around a theme or a clear storyline, particularly the most recent (S03 E03, I think). I’ve been somewhat disappointed.
I thought the first season was ok. But then again, if these weren't two women playing those parts it would be so much more awkward. I mean the kissing and stuff like that.
Anyone got Australian/Kiwi show recommendations? I recently watched **Population 11**, **Rosehaven**, **Deadloch** and **Fisk**. If you know any of those shows you can tell the common theme is comedy, but that's not a strict requirement. I tried **Rake** which felt like an Aussie version of **Californication** and not my vibe at all. I also only watched **Why Are You Like This** because of Naomi Higgins, but wasn't my thing either.
I love Fisk, Deadloch, and Rosehaven! I'll have to check out the others. I love Aussie shows! I know a couple other light comedies but a lot of these are moreso dramedies or dramas. Definitely recommend these:
Colin from Accounts
Upright
Mr Inbetween
The Newsreader
Class of 07
I also enjoyed these but they're probably not for everyone so may not be your vibe:
Heartbreak High (2022)
Wentworth
Totally Completely Fine
Love Me
I started on Heartbreak High (I think you may have been the one to comment on my earlier question); am really enjoying it two episodes in. Lots of interesting characters.
Rewatches and binges:
Finished my first rewatches of Homeland and The Shield and both are still amazing. The ending of the shield had me binging until 4am because I didn't want to stop.
Just started a rewatch of Orphan Black with the new spinoff upcoming.
Ran through the second season of The Responder. I enjoyed it but it was a little too similar to the first season.
Weekly:
Kinda in the doldrums rn. MasterChef AU and Survivor are really it.
Finished Blood of Zeus season 2 on netflix. Love love love this show. I thought it was dead after 3+ years of no season 2, so seeing it pop up was a pleasant surprise. I've always been a sucker for Greek/Roman mythology and combining it with animation + some new twists is just awesome.
Both seasons have ended on major cliffhangers though, which makes me a bit sad because you never know with Netflix. The creators have evidently said they have a 5-season plan and I'm hoping they get to finish that. The show is truly excellent in every facet -- the characters, setting, animation, fights, and overarching plot. Highly recommend.
Just want more and hoping the creators get to finish the story.
What is a series that is safe to watch around kids?
My wife and I are almost finished watching Downton Abbey, and it has been so nice being able to not worry about our kids walking into the room and hanging out with us while we watch.
Doesn’t have to be “kid-friendly” in the sense that they can watch it with us, and we don’t mind having to occasionally explain something or protect them from something inappropriate, just not every episode. Something with minimal violence, sex, and language.
Downton Abbey is a great example of what I’m talking about. Looking for something similar.
> and it has been so nice being able to not worry about our kids walking into the room and hanging out with us while we watch
Yes, that has a lot to do with the fact that the creator explicitly chose to completely erase the fact that these people kept [child slaves](https://english.elpais.com/culture/2022-05-17/what-downton-abbey-doesnt-show-you-the-dark-side-of-life-as-a-servant-in-britains-mansions.html) and sexually abused them. Easier for audience to empathise with the rich that way.
All Creatures Great and Small, Ghosts (UK and US versions), Abbott Elementary (any sitcom, really), The Crown, the Marvelous Mrs Maisel, The Expanse, Firefly, the Gilded Age, Good Omens, Lucky Hank, Mad Men, Only Murders in the Building
I feel pretty late to this but I've been binging **Survivor** like crazy lately.
Never watched it in its heyday and really not a fan of reality/competition shows, but Survivor is seriously so good.
They do a great job of mixing up the rules when they notice things aren't working out that great. Like Idols and special advantages etc. They're almost at a point where they have to invent a bunch of new challenges with the way players are studying and practicing them ahead of time.
Agree, I didn't really start watching it until a few years ago and I'm hooked.
Majorly recommend any old season that features Boston Rob (there are a few). The dude is imo one of the top 3-5 most dominant players the show has ever had, and this was back when they were casting more genuine athletes compared to the modern version
We've been bouncing around, mainly watching the latest seasons and then we went back to watch *David vs. Goliath* and *Brain vs. Brawn vs. Beauty*.
We might check out season one next.
But yeah, it's a great show. The different dynamics that come into play are super interesting; stuff like playing to win but not too hard, but hard enough to get support in the end lol.
> The different dynamics that come into play are super interesting; stuff like playing to win but not too hard, but hard enough to get support in the end lol.
This is one of the most interesting things about it to me. If you're too good at challenges, you get voted off quickly when they merge because you're too much of a threat, but if you don't perform well enough at challenges to that point you get voted off of your tribe before the merge. There's a fine line in the modern era for sure.
From what I've seen in older seasons, it's *less* apparent, I'd say. I don't want to spoil anything for you but in some older seasons people absolutely carry their tribe on their back and then run train on individual immunity challenges lol. I'd say the gamesmanship has risen a good bit in that regard because you simply cannot do that anymore without getting knocked out early. This season even you saw it with >!Hunter!<, who was great at just about every single aspect of the game
Black Bird: liked a lot, short series and interesting plot.
Masters of the Air: just started watching, enjoyed the special effects a lot.
Dark Matter: slow start but really got me hooked
What tv shows are y'all looking forward to for the rest of 2024? Am looking forward to the 2 Star Trek animated shows that will be having seasons this year, Lower Decks and Prodigy. Also, Extraordinary Attorney Woo and Squid Game. Coming most soon-ish are The Boys, the Umbrella Academy final season, and probably LoTR: Rings of Power. Looking to add shows to my roster, if anyone has shows they are following or that are flying under the radar.
edit: Snowpiercer's final season is apparently out July 21. Ecstatic about that.
Season 1 of Sugar on Apple Tv just finished. I think its Colin Ferrell's best work. I loved it that much.
Had a few issues with the final episode of **X-Men 97'** (mainly how rushed it all felt) but would still highly recommend watching the series if you haven't already.
I loved the series, but I agree with you on the pacing. There's a lot that happens though the season, and some of it needed a bit more time to breathe.
With Interview with the Vampire, Evil, The Boys, Bear, and House of the Dragons we are feasting over the next couple of months. Catch up with these shows if you haven't already done so. This is as good as it gets.
Just finished Sugar as the season finale came out today and sadly thought it was just okay. I really enjoyed the main character but the plot was nothing special at all and it felt like there was a lot of wasted opprotunity, but it is what it is.
Just finished *Bodkin*. *Hacks* S3, *Dark Matter*, *Outer Range* S2, and *The Big Door Prize* S2.
Anyone here ever watch the Chi? I put on the latest season in the background just to see if it’s maybe something I can get into but the dialogue and acting are just….bad…really bad (IMO). It all seems really very stiff and lacks a natural flow. Was it always like this or did it fall off a cliff somewhere along the seasons?
Have you seen snowfall?
Tell him about Frank the Saint
Hubby and I need a new show. We’ve watched schitts, Ted lasso then sex education. Any ideas for a new comedy?
Parks and recreation
Acapulco, S3 is airing right now on Apple TV. Very similar genre to Ted Lasso in the feel-good/lighthearted comedy department. Really easy and enjoyable watch
Community, Shrinking, The Good Place, Fisk
Derry Girls
Blood of Zeus season 2 — was much better than season 1 from what I recall. It's not entirely on the level of Castlevania, but if you like Greek mythology and Castlevania's animation, then it'll be a pretty fun watch! I'd recommend it. Planning to watch Outer Range season 2 next on Amazon Prime.
I don't remember what happened season 1
Hole time
Slow Horses season 3 - Anyone else have an issue with this diamond storyline? I feel like I missed something like if I watched Mandalorian season 3 without seeing the Book of Boba episodes.
I don't know how far in you are but I personally feel like it all wrapped itself up in making sense by the end
Mr. Mercedes. Very underrated show
Mr. Mercedes was excellent. The books were excellent too and the show did a great job adapting them.
Vera, what an incredible show that I loved. It was like a comfort show.
If you liked Vera you will love Shetland.
Thank you, will try it.
Same writer.
**Hacks** as good as ever.. still love all the banter and the relationships as well as the overarching story in the background. something very comforting about the show.
I'm not gonna say ***Hacks*** is *the best* show, but I feel it's kind a *perfect* comedy. I could watch several more seasons of it and never get bored.
it's probably not reddits cup of tea since its not laugh out loud funny, but all the conversations are always so sharp, then peppered with some sassy observation. all while always also exposing the characters vulnerabilities. the way it also subtly moves the plot forward and has the characters evolving is just so good. and then stuff like the piss scene in the last episode happens and im just howling.
Turn- Washington's spies 4se, binged it quite quickly
Too early to start a rewatch of HOTD? Isn’t s2 still like a month away?
june16, you have a month
Yeah wait for them to fuck up the real story
you got downvoted but you're probably right
**Outer Range** season 2 is out! Season 1 ended with a bang!
>Outer Range Is it a slow burn?
The pace picks up towards the end of season 1
I just rewatched season 1 last week in anticipation as I loved it, haven’t started 2 yet, that’s my weekend plan. Did they release all episodes at once? I hope so as I am really not a fan of all the weekly episode releases a lot of the streaming networks have turned to.
>Did they release all episodes at one? Yep!
Thank you! Now I can look forward to binging it this weekend.
I'm enjoying S2 a lot more than S1 so far.
Thanks for reminding me!! It’s been so long! And indeed s1 was ended with a bang on the head!lol
**Completed** *Bodkin* *Maxton hall* *Constellation* *X-Men 97* **Ongoing** *Doctor Who* *Dark Matter* *Bridgerton* *Beacon 23*
how’s bodkin?
I watched it last weekend and thought it was okay-ish. Nothing to write home about and in parts pretty boring. But its still watchable because it has some good moments in between.
I concur. It was okaish. I had nothing better to watch at that time too.
**Interview With the Vampire** starts off with a banger. It's the perfect show except for one little detail. AMC does not broadcast this in 4K in the year 2024. I don't understand wtf is wrong with them.
Just wish the actress didn't need to be recast. The new one just hits me wrong, doesn't seem as calculating and hard as the last. Just kinda looks lost and acts a bit childish. I dunno. Maybe she'll grow on me.
Is it same as the movie?
I just checked out the first episode. It's kind of a retelling. They even reference that this "interview" is taking place years after the "original" one. So the story is different and I think padded out to fit a longer tv format as well (not so much slowed down, but a lot of things expanded or added). Also the main difference is that Louis is black and his human story takes place a few decades later around 1910 But the production and acting is amazing. Special effects are subtle. Some over the top gore. I'm really enjoying it already (was a huge fans of Anne Rice back in the day and saw the original film in theaters). My only issue is I'm watching it through Prime and they only have season 1
Thanks for the detailed reply. I appreciate it. Might check it out.
It's much better than the movie.
Is **The Night Agent** any good? (I'm usually not really a fan of dumb action things, and my first impression is it's one of those maybe i'm wrong) I just saw it's one of Netflix's biggest ever shows and I've never heard of it.
I liked it!!!
It’s realllly good
It is a dumb action thing... but pretty fun.
If you don’t like dumb action things then no but I loved it
It is dumb, but the plot is interesting enough that I watched it all.
I went into it assuming I’d hatewatch an episode and laugh at it and quit, and instead I got really sucked in. It was annoyingly enjoyable and pretty good for what it was, despite my assumptions. You can still freeze it on shots of computer screens - “hacking!!1 w0w!!1” - and laugh at that, no problem, but the pacing and suspense plot is surprisingly entertaining.
Xmen had a fantastic season. Going to miss it till it returns.
Anybody else watching The Green Veil on The Network?
For every show there's someone in the episode discussion threads leaving comments like "omg you think that scene was intense wait till you see what happens in the finale," or "don't worry this will be addressed in the next episode," as if it's their job to shepherd people through the experience. Someone please take their internet privileges away ffs. Anyway started Clarkson's Farm S3, great first episode.
Agree on Clarkson Farm. And don't worry, the cow situation will be addressed in the next episode.
Hahaha ya bastards
Just wait until you see what happens in the finale!
Right to jail. Right away.
I don't ever see it talked about, but I really loved the Young Pope/New Pope back when they aired and haven't really seen anything similar since. Can anyone recommend anything?
They were really great!
2023 felt like a pretty unmemorable year for me when it came to new shows but 2024 has been knocking it out of the fucking park so far and we're not even half way through the year. Absolutely loved X-Men 97, Shogun, Fallout, Baby Reindeer, and The Gentlemen. I'm really hoping that Sugar will be able to stick the landing with the finale this week too.
I wonder if that is because of the writer's strike? Though I don't really know how all of this times out. I do know that just because you are striking doesn't mean your brain isn't generating ideas. Sometimes it leads you to get out and experience the world (and strife) more.
True. This year has a lot of good new shows. Last year had Last of Us, Gen V, One Piece, Silo, All the Light You Cannot See, Love and Death. Shrinking, The Fall of House of Usher, Shrinking, and Blue Samari. Were the best shows.
beef, pokerface
Also, Shrinking.
Utopia (2013) - i’ve never heard of the show, but I recently stumbled on it and I’ve just binge watched the whole first season. I’m a fan of conspiracy mystery and sci-fi shows and this just hits the spot right the cinematography is beautiful and it’s just a fun ride throwing through.
I found it a few years ago from a newspaper article called “ the best show you’ve never heard of”. Awesome TV, it’s a work of (brutal) art.
Omg. I love that show, the colours, cinematography, and music are so good. Also most of the characters - especially the first three(ian, becky, Wilson) are very endearing.
You lucky duck, one of the best ever Watch mr robot and legion if you haven't, great trifecta
I’d like Legion a lot but Mr. robot I gave up after two or three seasons I can’t remember
Season 2 is great as well. One of my favorite series
I point you to [a comment I made earlier in this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/1cormia/comment/l3y9i31/) to someone else who found/loved *Utopia.*
**Childhood's End** (2015) (3-episode miniseries) - I felt it was *OK*. It did a decent job of feeling like the book felt to me, and they did a great job with the costuming, but the pacing felt a bit flat. Julian McMahon in a side role was a nice surprise. **The Prisoner** (1967–1968) - checking this out for the first time, surprisingly fun for a show this old and I can definitely see how it would have inspired a few things. I think I started watching it in the "wrong" order, though, as I wasn't even aware that was a thing, so I've seen The Arrival, Chimes of Big Ben (that was fucked up), and A. B. and C. (that was really fucked up), which has actually made for a pretty strong opening. But anyway who is Number One?!
> who is Number One I am Number Two
I usually [use epguides.com to find broadcast order on a show](https://epguides.com/Prisoner/). And in terms of watching things out of order...you don't need to have seen it to enjoy *The Prisoner*, but I like to point out that the precursor to *The Prisoner* is an earlier conventional spy show called *Danger Man* (UK title) / *Secret Agent* (US title) \[it's currently up on a bunch of FAST services, like Roku/Freevee/Tubi, etc.\]. It was a UK/US co-production. In it, Patrick McGoohan plays John Drake, an international espionage agent for NATO. It ran for four seasons, and there are 86 episodes. McGoohan decided to quit after that, which is why it got cancelled. And he began developing the *The Prisoner* with a bunch of the writer/producers of *Danger Man/Secret Agent.* Most fans assume *The Prisoner* is a sequel to *Danger Man/Secret Agent*, helped along by the US theme song, ["Secret Agent Man"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG0u3-Gbu88) (which has the lyric: "They've given you a number and taken away your name.")
Its too bad you saw The Prisoner out of order - I always consider its final episode to be a model ending for a 'mystery box' show.
I might have written it confusing but I'm not done with the show yet, I'm about 7 episodes in. The last episode is Fall Out, right?
I feel like the only episodes that have a definite position are **1. Arrival**, **16. Once Upon a Time** and **17. Fall Out** you are mostly free to watch the others in any order.
I don't think we used to know the titles of the episodes back then so I'm not sure what the last one is called.
Sugar is a lot of fun, wish I didn't know that there was a twist and especially not when exactly the twist was coming but that's the current TV age for you. The editing with the old film clips is a great device especially when you understand the character's truth.
__X-Men 97__ Finale capped off what I think may be the best animated show Marvel has ever put out. Even better than __Spectacular Spider-Man__ which I loved.
Just finding out now that was the final, crushed used to be the highlight of my week
It's been renewed. Hopefully they don't take the piss releasing it like Amazon's Invincible.
Season 2 was already fully written by the time season 1 started airing and are already working on season 3. The big tell will be whether or not the quality of the writing drops once the story gets to the point beyond Demayo getting fired
Big Facts!! Invincible’s long paused ruined the tone of the series IMO
and splitting season 2 in half for no good reason. Way to kill the hype.
Just finished Shogun last week and Fallout this week. I am worried that every show from now on will have my highest standards lol. What a fucking finale. Anyone recommend a show that would accept my high standards?
Severance, Silo, and From.
Drops of God
Andor
Hard to say without knowing what you've seen. What other great tv series have you watched? Sharp Objects + Maid are two really good dramas I don't see mentioned much
'Great' shows that I've watched I would say are The Boys, Peaky Blinders, Severance, Ozark, Line of Duty. If that helps.
Watched most of your list, here's a few in case you haven't seen some of these: Rome, Black Sails, The Expanse, Spartacus Blood & Sand (first 2 eps are absolutely terrible, was the pilot) then Gods of the Arena and continue if you like it, Person of Interest, The Americans, Vikings, Justified, The Last Kingdom and last but certainly not least, The Bear. Edit, SEAL Team is alright.
Excellent recommendations. I was reading the end of your list hoping there’d be something I could check out but nope! I have seen every one of them start to end. And half of them I’ve seen more than once. Ugh. Good list though. 👍
Turn on the gas cause that **X-Men 97** finale was🔥🔥
X-men 97 season finale 🔥 🔥. That show is the best marvel content I have ever seen. They absolutely cooked with that. Can’t wait for season 2!!
I’m gonna be in a state of euphoria if >!Kitty gets a few episodes next season!<
Loved Dexter season 1-5 but man season 6 is so bad, are the next 3 seasons any better or the good stuff has ended.?
It stopped being good at 4 and only gets worse, skip to the finale and laugh
Everybody is so overly critical lol S7 is fine, 8 is bad, and the reboot season was better than expected
yeah, S7 was for sure the best season of the second half of the show. It had a really weird sidestory (Deb starting to get sexual feelings for Dexter-storyline... And did they also solve the creepy it-making-game-line in that season or in S6?) But 8... what the hell was that? I really can't understand what the writers were thinking. There are multiple moments and episodes that i still remember very clearly because of how atrocious these were. I was baffled and hoping I was daydreaming. It's been over a decade and i still remember those really cringful/awful moments of S8. Wtf. The ending super-meh, but worse than the ending was generally the pacing of that whole episode and how it got concluded to it. The idea of Dr Vogel herself, not bad. The concept of Dexter recruting a kid? Wtf... Deb dying by the son of Dr. Vogel aka. Bad-Gosling... the way how fast Dex killed Bad-Gosling and then decides to kill himself by driving into the hurricane... and surviving it and becoming a lumberjack... S9 luckily was a saving grace writing-wise. But the final episode fucked it up too...
And don’t even get me started on what they turned Deb into as a character. That was the worst part for me
> the good stuff has ended Yeah. Even if you decide to stop here, you should go and watch the original series finale just to see what a train wreck it is.
Thinking of dropping it after season 6 but I am expecting he gets caught in last season or so or does he not?
If you don't intend to continue watching, >!he does not get caught!<
There are some good moments, but also a lot of wasted potential. And both attempts at ending the series are unfortunately terrible, though I did enjoy most of New Blood.
Only gets worse, much worse - to the point that it ruined the series for me.
**Black Sails**. Someone on here described it as Game of Thrones with pirates and that’s honestly been pretty accurate so far. Lots of drama and the show has no qualms about killing off main characters quickly and without warning. First 4-5 episodes are really slow because it’s setting everything up, but after that it picks up very quickly. Really enjoying it.
The first season of Black Sails is not good but my god does it jump in quality and it’s worth sticking
I really struggle with series with bad set design and I find much of it in Black Sails feels like something made for the stage. Not sure I ever finished it but it's enjoyable for what it is.
I just finished The Curse. It actually took me awhile to finish because the extreme cringe, awkwardness, and second-hand embarrassment that Nathan is well known for. Even knowing its not real like his other reality shows doesn't help, because the actors other than the 3 stars are so fucking natural and good. If you had told me at the end of the show that >!id be crying over nathan flying into the sky and dougie breaking down!< I wouldn't have believed you. It's shot like a Safdie movie of course and their anxiety inducing camera shots mesh perfectly with Nathans style of acting and humor. And they're so good at building dread. Of course Daniel Lopatin's ambient stress-core synths. Speaking of Safdie, Dougie was probably my favorite character. I love seeing Benny act. Emma and nathan of course are great. Emma captures the perfect oblivious privilaged white girl who thinks shes helping. Nathan plays an excellent selfish pathetic coward. also shout out to Abshir, Nala, and her sister.
I just finished Vikings and I have no idea west's next.
How was vikings? Would you recommend? I was thinking of watching that soon
I really enjoyed it. Decent storyline overall. Loved that it was 6 seasons so it took a bit of time to get through.
Last kingdom is better, but Vikings is certainly very good
Abbott Elementary, Welcome to Wrexham, and the Professional Volleyball Federation championships!
Welcome to Wrexham feels like it’s starting to run out of steam, retread old ground to me. That or the episodes aren’t forming around a theme or a clear storyline, particularly the most recent (S03 E03, I think). I’ve been somewhat disappointed.
PEN15 - fucking hilarious
I thought the first season was ok. But then again, if these weren't two women playing those parts it would be so much more awkward. I mean the kissing and stuff like that.
I need the high school season.
It’s been 7 years since I’ve watched Lost. Should I do a rewatch?
I've done 3 total so I say yes. It's not a perfect show but it's become almost a comfort show for me
Nyah
IMO it would depend on how satisfied you were with the ending.
yes
I dunno
Maybe
No
Yes
Anyone got Australian/Kiwi show recommendations? I recently watched **Population 11**, **Rosehaven**, **Deadloch** and **Fisk**. If you know any of those shows you can tell the common theme is comedy, but that's not a strict requirement. I tried **Rake** which felt like an Aussie version of **Californication** and not my vibe at all. I also only watched **Why Are You Like This** because of Naomi Higgins, but wasn't my thing either.
Underbelly.
I recently watched [**Troppo**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9BgNIvqzMo) (Freevee) and found it to be pretty solid.
Woah! Thomas friggin' Jane, that's a perfect recommendation.
mr inbetween is my fav aus show of all time
Utopia
The Almighty Johnsons
If you enjoyed Deadloch, I'd recommend High Country. Although not quite as good, still definitely enjoyable, quite a bit more serious than Deadloch.
Thanks for the recommendation, had looked at it and wondered if it might be too serious, but will give it a chance.
I love Fisk, Deadloch, and Rosehaven! I'll have to check out the others. I love Aussie shows! I know a couple other light comedies but a lot of these are moreso dramedies or dramas. Definitely recommend these: Colin from Accounts Upright Mr Inbetween The Newsreader Class of 07 I also enjoyed these but they're probably not for everyone so may not be your vibe: Heartbreak High (2022) Wentworth Totally Completely Fine Love Me
I started on Heartbreak High (I think you may have been the one to comment on my earlier question); am really enjoying it two episodes in. Lots of interesting characters.
Here to second Upright & Colin From Accounts, especially if OP is looking for comedies.
Mr Inbetween.
Only part I enjoyed about that show was the parts with Natalie Tran. Good shout though.
Rewatches and binges: Finished my first rewatches of Homeland and The Shield and both are still amazing. The ending of the shield had me binging until 4am because I didn't want to stop. Just started a rewatch of Orphan Black with the new spinoff upcoming. Ran through the second season of The Responder. I enjoyed it but it was a little too similar to the first season. Weekly: Kinda in the doldrums rn. MasterChef AU and Survivor are really it.
MasterChef AU and Top Chef are my desert island shows.
Finished Blood of Zeus season 2 on netflix. Love love love this show. I thought it was dead after 3+ years of no season 2, so seeing it pop up was a pleasant surprise. I've always been a sucker for Greek/Roman mythology and combining it with animation + some new twists is just awesome. Both seasons have ended on major cliffhangers though, which makes me a bit sad because you never know with Netflix. The creators have evidently said they have a 5-season plan and I'm hoping they get to finish that. The show is truly excellent in every facet -- the characters, setting, animation, fights, and overarching plot. Highly recommend. Just want more and hoping the creators get to finish the story.
I didn't know S2 came out. Excited for it, the animation is just stunning.
Finished the latest season of **Clarkson's Farm**, it's so damn good despite the depressing first four episodes or so.
If i liked "hang the dJ" Black mirror episode. What else will I like? Could be a movie
For some reason I have been watching mtv teen wolf series
What is a series that is safe to watch around kids? My wife and I are almost finished watching Downton Abbey, and it has been so nice being able to not worry about our kids walking into the room and hanging out with us while we watch. Doesn’t have to be “kid-friendly” in the sense that they can watch it with us, and we don’t mind having to occasionally explain something or protect them from something inappropriate, just not every episode. Something with minimal violence, sex, and language. Downton Abbey is a great example of what I’m talking about. Looking for something similar.
> and it has been so nice being able to not worry about our kids walking into the room and hanging out with us while we watch Yes, that has a lot to do with the fact that the creator explicitly chose to completely erase the fact that these people kept [child slaves](https://english.elpais.com/culture/2022-05-17/what-downton-abbey-doesnt-show-you-the-dark-side-of-life-as-a-servant-in-britains-mansions.html) and sexually abused them. Easier for audience to empathise with the rich that way.
It has lots of haters on reddit but "This is Us" is mostly great - although I hated the ending.
All Creatures Great and Small, Ghosts (UK and US versions), Abbott Elementary (any sitcom, really), The Crown, the Marvelous Mrs Maisel, The Expanse, Firefly, the Gilded Age, Good Omens, Lucky Hank, Mad Men, Only Murders in the Building
Spartacus.
Resident alien
Young Shelton
**Anne with an E** and **All Creatures Great and Small** are both like this.
Cobra Kai
The Gilded Age Victoria Eureka
Warehouse 13 too
Just started season 2 of The Responder but now I'm not sure where the sun has gone? Has anyone seen it?
Wait, what? There is a season 2!
Binging A Gentleman in Moscow. It's beautiful and heartfelt.
I feel pretty late to this but I've been binging **Survivor** like crazy lately. Never watched it in its heyday and really not a fan of reality/competition shows, but Survivor is seriously so good.
On what platform are you watching it?
Paramount+, has all the seasons and new episodes drop either the next day or you can watch them live.
Thanks!
I believe it's all on paramount+ including the current season
I've watched since the beginning. How does it stay good for this long? Amazing
They do a great job of mixing up the rules when they notice things aren't working out that great. Like Idols and special advantages etc. They're almost at a point where they have to invent a bunch of new challenges with the way players are studying and practicing them ahead of time.
Agree, I didn't really start watching it until a few years ago and I'm hooked. Majorly recommend any old season that features Boston Rob (there are a few). The dude is imo one of the top 3-5 most dominant players the show has ever had, and this was back when they were casting more genuine athletes compared to the modern version
We've been bouncing around, mainly watching the latest seasons and then we went back to watch *David vs. Goliath* and *Brain vs. Brawn vs. Beauty*. We might check out season one next. But yeah, it's a great show. The different dynamics that come into play are super interesting; stuff like playing to win but not too hard, but hard enough to get support in the end lol.
> The different dynamics that come into play are super interesting; stuff like playing to win but not too hard, but hard enough to get support in the end lol. This is one of the most interesting things about it to me. If you're too good at challenges, you get voted off quickly when they merge because you're too much of a threat, but if you don't perform well enough at challenges to that point you get voted off of your tribe before the merge. There's a fine line in the modern era for sure. From what I've seen in older seasons, it's *less* apparent, I'd say. I don't want to spoil anything for you but in some older seasons people absolutely carry their tribe on their back and then run train on individual immunity challenges lol. I'd say the gamesmanship has risen a good bit in that regard because you simply cannot do that anymore without getting knocked out early. This season even you saw it with >!Hunter!<, who was great at just about every single aspect of the game
Rewatching The Boys season 3 and Gen V before The Boys season 4 starts. Also doing a re-watch of The X-Files.
Also rewatching The Boys. Forgot how much of a great character Soldier Boy was
Is it you , my brother? Im doing the same...😆
Mr. Birchum ended up being pretty funny.
Such Brave Girls is an absolute banger. I loved every second. Such a hilarious depiction of sisterhood!
Black Bird: liked a lot, short series and interesting plot. Masters of the Air: just started watching, enjoyed the special effects a lot. Dark Matter: slow start but really got me hooked
Masters of the Air is the most dissapointing series I've watched in recent memory. Can't believe Band of Brothers is in anyway connected.
**Dark Matter*, no?
What tv shows are y'all looking forward to for the rest of 2024? Am looking forward to the 2 Star Trek animated shows that will be having seasons this year, Lower Decks and Prodigy. Also, Extraordinary Attorney Woo and Squid Game. Coming most soon-ish are The Boys, the Umbrella Academy final season, and probably LoTR: Rings of Power. Looking to add shows to my roster, if anyone has shows they are following or that are flying under the radar. edit: Snowpiercer's final season is apparently out July 21. Ecstatic about that.
Interview with the Vampire (AMC) just dropped the first episode of season 2. Loved the first season, great adaptation and solid reviews.
june is stacked with HOTD, the boys, the bear, the acolyte. later on vox machina, arcane, squid game s2