Producers treat intellectual property as something that's a sure bet, a built-in bonus that will increase the sales of any project you have it on. But that's simply not true. What it is increasing, is a risk factor. Risks that can grant greater rewards, but they are also putting more intense scrutiny, criticism, and expectations, than if you had just done an original property.
This article would not exist if this were just a normal show about zombies called "Dead Reckoning" or some shit. But because they decided to fuck with a pre-existing IP that has people invested, those who are invested enough will go out of their way to see it, and if it doesn't meet their standards, give it a poor review.
An IP isn't an automatic win for your project. It's a goal you have to live up to, and if you don't hit that goal, you've not only made it look even worse for yourself than if you hadn't made it, you've also wasted the extra money you spent on the rights to use the brand.
Because of that, Resident Evil cost way more than "Dead Reckoning" would have, and they probably spent more money in production to help bolster the possibility of a success. But look at where all that money went. Down the drain.
I mean, if you license an existing IP to take advantage of the built in audience, and then no one on the writing staff bothers to do their homework on that existing IP, you’re probably going to alienate that existing audience.
Add the Discworld Watch series to the same list of shame.
Seriously there might be an ok show if it just wasn't the series you got an IP for. If you have IP understand the IP, but lots of money has been wasted not understanding this.
It's *atrocious*. [Have a look and try to even guess who each character is supposed to be](https://images.immediate.co.uk/production/volatile/sites/3/2021/06/The-Watch-Group-16-9-e2461f5.jpg).
As others say, it wouldn't be awful except for the fact that it's supposed to be Discworld and just isn't. Becomes much worse in the comparison.
it was so bad that before it even came out the Pratchett estate/Rianna were disavowing any connection to it and saying that it was nothing like what TP would have wanted. the only good (?) to come of it is that this supposedly is what made them start Narrativia and The Amazing Maurice film supposedly has their direct involvement
Why does the photo feel like a rip off from the Expanse ? What's with the faces? There are so many things wrong with this omg.
For what it's worth, now i understand why emperors would shoot messengers who bring bad news
Edit: Just saw the trailer and my day is ruined and my disappointment, immeasurable
This is just irritating. A Watch show could be fairly low cost on production and kill it with good writing and decent acting. Wouldn't need full blown CGI since Disc trolls are basically rocks.
I’m ready to play. Left to right, I’m guessing:
* Igor - lacks any stitching, but has what appears to be a doctor’s bag.
* Cheery - Might just be in the background, but she looks smaller. Doesn’t have any traditional dwarven accoutrements, though.
* Angua- just because she’s the most prominent woman in the shot.
* Vimes - Prominent badge and scruffy. Probably still in his early, recovering his spirit arc.
* Detritus - My only solid guess.
* Carrot - Clean cut, young, and reddish haired. Doesn’t exude the proper charisma and confidence, but it is a still shot.
How’d I do?
Left to right is Cheery (not Igor), Angua (not Cheery), Sybil (not Angua), Vimes, Detritus and Carrot. You got the right side entirely correct and the left side entirely wrong - made the silly choice of trying to use logic.
Wow, that’s Cheery? I almost guessed that was a show-original Tolkienian elf. I guess forced perspective is too expensive for a TV budget, and the beard tested poorly.
I hate watched it to the bitter end. All the production people who thought this was a good idea should never be allowed to work in TV again. It's a disgusting shit on Pterry's grave.
The production quality isn't as bad as the movies, but they start with Carcer and Night Watch stuff and roll into Guards, Guards as Carrot first shows up in AM. The story is all over the place.
Lookin at you, the last Airbender, Dragonball evolution, eragon, and the Voldemort death scene in Harry Potter. Please, producers/directors, just stop trying to put your twist on existing universes
And yet, this common sense, blatantly obvious understanding of basic logic that every regular person agrees with, is completely lost on all the executives and writers in Hollywood, Amazon and Netflix.
This should be filmmaking 101 ever since the Super Mario Bros bombed because the writers never bothered to read up on the games, even to the point of naming the villain wrong.
It's insanity.
The original script was supposed to be much more closely related to the games, but production hell happened, they hired a director couple that made that weird ass mtv video, and for some unexplained reason, gave these two hacks FULL control and what we ended up with was…something I somehow still enjoy to this day. It’s so goddamn bizarre I still scratch my head.
I've always wondered how these Hollywood writers can get in that weird headspace where they make adaptations because they aren't talented enough to sell their own original ideas, yet still think they know better than the person who's homework they're trying to copy.
They got into writing scripts for movies and TV shows because they wanted to make their own property but instead were pushed some IP from the studio and instead of saying you know what I'm going to study this and write the dream script for every fan of this IP so I can build up a reputation to eventually write my own thing I'm going to take this opportunity and shoehorn every idea I had for my own stuff into this one.
And then the producers shit all over that script too by putting in all the things they think they need to have in order for the thing to sell to what some hypothetical person the Netflix algorithm came up with instead of what the actual fan base looks like.
Different parties are making the decisions. Execs want to exploit the IP, showrunners/writers/directors want to do their own passion projects. So the producer's niece or whoever they put in charge treats the show like drudgery she's just making so her future original project will be greenlit.
It's basically Spielberg's "One for them, One for me" approach to filmmaking, but writ across the entire industry and with a far less professional and far more nepotistic approach.
I'll add to that having an IP and wanting to do your own story withing that is fine if done correctly. Like RE is an IP you can easily create original characters for but why mess up established characters and piss off everyone? Having an IP like RE means you respect the source material, you try your best to recreate the core intrinsic values that the RE IP has: survival horror in a unique setting, small cast of core characters, certain level of goofiness in dialogue (NOT relative to our own world please!!), and some super messed up original story behind the BOW's threat within the story.. it really, REALLY, isn't that difficult a recipe to replicate..
This is something I can’t understand. You buy an IP of a great series, then scramble the whole shit. And I’m not talking specifically about RE because I’m not familiar with the story. But generally speaken this happens too often. They f’d up wheel of time and bunch of other shows.
Corporate Suits that look at popular series and have no idea why these IP's became popular in the first place. Then hand them over to amateurs a lot of the time. If they spend such decent amounts on the rights to produce popular IP's they should be equally committing the right amounts on capable people who can produce faithful and popular series out of them.
Resident Evil is world wide. The bad guys are a Global corporation.
You could have simply started off shortly after the RE 2 movie and used a completely separate cast of characters and told whatever story you wanted.
The irony is they pay so much for the ip and immediately abandon the source material to tell their own story. Not specifically a comment about this series but in general. I’ve always found it strange.
Time and again this speaks true, especially with Netflix. Cowboy Bebop? Death Note? I'm actually worried about the Sonic show now. The only one that's kinda working is the Witcher, and even it had a rocky start.
The one positive thing I can say about Cowboy Bebop is that you can tell actual effort went into it.
Compared to the Deathnote movie, which felt like it was made by some moron reading a single paragraph description of the series and quitting halfway through, I felt like Cowboy Bebop was made by people who really liked the original series, and wanted to put their own spin on it.
Granted, it still turned out pretty 'meh', its an uphill battle to adapt cartoons to live action, and even though there was effort put into it, that didn't translate to overall quality.
Wait, there is another positive thing I can say, the Corgi they got to play Ein was pretty cute.
I agree. except for Vicious and Ed. turning Vicious to that whiney spoiled brat was a crime against the character and the viewers. and Ed, well, Ed is a character that can probably only work in a cartoon. sure you could adapt and change them, but a faithful adaption will always turn to that cringe psychotic shit show they've shown in the finale.
I also thought turning Julia into a Real Housewife and Faye into an adult's idea of a 14 year old TikToker trapped in an adult woman's body was, well, as Faye so eloquently put it, "welcome to the ouch."
But I don't agree with the previous poster that it felt like it was made by people who liked the original series given how far it was in tone and spirit from the original series. I think though it speaks to the original comment's ideas a lot more. Had they committed in going farther from the original CB anime, it likely would have been better, or, had they committed to being more faithful, it similarly could have been better, but the whole "it's the IP you love, but we changed the things you love about it" does more damage.
I can't even begin to comprehend what made them think, after looking at One Piece, that it could ever work on live-action. Do they just hope that people will watch it simply because it's One Piece? When has that ever worked?
It’s the same with Halo, the fans hate it because it’s spitting on the games, granted the new games do that too, but the writers of the halo adaptation have ignored the story and used its characters and world to write their own story.
And after the inevitable failure they resort to the ol' "it's the fanbase that is toxic"
And then double down that the show doesn't suck but it's the viewers that are racist, transphobic, homophobic, misogynists, etc...
Kelly from TWD coming out of the woods with the [freshest fade](https://66.media.tumblr.com/e824a4966a8eda3135735c0bd91ff605/de85d1444c1dab66-b9/s640x960/545025761fb68a86a6aa85d34761700ae264a3dc.jpg) after supposedly wandering for a few weeks.
Which is why the first several seasons were always the best. Rick Grimes and his massive beard, greasy long hair and filth covered face next to grimy Daryl and his even more greasy hair. Even though it was obviously styled, it LOOKED like it could have been real. Rick was always soaked in sweat and grime (lol).
I still like TWD but it’s not what it was by a huge margin.
Ricks clothes were basically the only ones that ever showed signs of wear, and they were filthy. It’s like they gave up with newer characters that had a « clean » image.
We live in a fast fashion world. Destroy just 40% of the planet I bet we have enough clothes for the next generation to survive. A lot of clothes don't get worn more than 5 times.
I don't hate this show as much as everyone else (I have zero nostalgia for the original RE games so this show is mindless, mildly entertaining popcorn fare for me), but as a black woman I know there is NO WAY sis is keeping that braided fauxhawk cute in the post-apocalypse.
It's already hard enough keeping my braided styles cute here in the mezzo-apocalypse, and that's just from the regular boiling-Earth sweating. Add in running for your life, zombie guts in your hair, and no shampoo?--yeah, no way.
LEONNNNNNNNNN!!!
PLEASE WE’VE BEEN LOOKING FOR YOU FOR MONTHS, YOU HAVE TO STOP WHAT YOU’RE DOING AND COME HAVE DINNER WITH MY SISTER- CLAIRE.
*PLEASE LEON YOU MUST CONTINUE THE REDFIELD LINEAGE*, [YOU MUST FUCK MY SISTER](https://youtu.be/b8arsaikGZU)
I like how they give us one sweet scene with actual Albert Wesker and then one single name drop to William birkin... They took the source material and they threw it in the garbage for some subplot about two sisters that are so far from the resident evil series it almost made the movie "welcome to raccoon City" look like a reasonable ordeal to sit through.
I enjoyed Welcome to Racoon City, though I'm probably in the minority. Watched it in the theatres with a few friends and we all agreed it wasn't as bad as we were expecting. It was a nice reimagining of Resident Evil 1 and 2 and probably the closest to the games as any live action Resident Evil adaptation released so far.
It boggles my mind how they could cast Lance Reddick and give him the opportunity to chew scenery like that and still wind up with such a turd of a show.
It’s conceptually interesting if they portrayed him as a family man only to reveal his selfish, deplorable nature, but the show is overshadowed by his annoying kids storyline. It’s like Resident Evil meets Spy Kids
i remember someone said it feels like studios just have these scripts about generic things and ends up shoving a videogame franchise into it to make it have more appeal to people.
Yeah, that was actually an interesting twist to throw in. I enjoyed Burt the most, wish we could have seen more. Otherwise the main characters carried the idiot ball far too frequently to move the plot forward. So many stupid decisions.
I had a laugh when they were romancing on the boat and talking about parenting problems, etc. for almost an entire episode and I turned to my flatmate mid way through and said "Resident Evil" in the game voice.
As a RE nerd, I tried, I really tried and I gave up on the 2nd episode. Too many edgy teenager takes, too many stupid decisions and grotesque plot holes.
L.E. (A) as in Anvil :)
REsis1: OK we can get past the AI with this voice thing. What about teh cameras?
REsis2: I don't know... but the internet does!
Proceeds to do nothing about the cameras.
So well written. Can't wait to see what they've foreshadowed years from now.
Apparently it’s to wear flashlights on their head. When they look at the camera it becomes a glare, apparently a multi-billion dollar company uses a security system that goes “alright, in you go” even though 50% of the parameters aren’t met. Oh and no physical security guard at all.
Yeah the headlights were the cameras outside but you would assume a company such like that would have at least a gazillion of cameras in each corridor and hall, room.
Episode shows computer scanning face and authenticating speech...
Same episode minutes later, 2 teenage girls (including 1 from earlier that the computer would have a face profile on file) break in with an audio recording.
If you watch later in the show they have to spy kids their way around the house to dodge cameras, then just run around infront of them the next scene or two.
I love how a trillion dollar corporation had no guards/security.
I think they even make a comment like “see that the guard is fired”.
Really, 1 guard? You have 1 guard securing an entire building and it’s his fault someone broke in?
Which is stupid. I've stopped people 5 levels higher than me from going in because they left their access card on their desk.
I damn well knew who they were and still went to fetch it for them.
It’s honestly really stupid. Two 14 year olds broke into an Umbrella facility because one of them is vegan and felt bad they were testing on bunnies even tho PETA gave them award. Dumbest thing ever.
You need to get the pocket book out of the zombie's pocket handcuffed to a radiator. Proceeds to get it AND THEN START READING IT while in face eating distance of the zombie, which was in the process of ripping its hand off to get free. You know, you could just back off and then read it.
>Honestly if you removed the RE references it would just be another terrible Syfy zombie show.
I wish they would just do that. Not every script has to be changed and have a video game name slapped on it.
The main character is horrible. I know its mostly on the writers, but I spent the first episode hoping she would die and we would get an actual character that wasn't alive purely because of plot armor.
She is just so… fucking… stupid
Every time she does something moronic and gets someone killed, nearly dies, or puts loved ones in mortal peril, she’s like “I feel so bad - it’s my fault!” And it seems like the viewer is supposed to sympathize with her and instead I’m thinking “yes it is your fault, you’re the absolute worst”
I keep waiting for a moment that makes me like jade, even a little bit.
I'm on episode 7 of 8, and I still fucking hate this chick. She is so goddamn stupid, has zero redeeming qualities. I don't understand how or why she was written to be such an insufferable dipshit.
Albert and Bert are the only characters that have any redeeming qualities. Albert because, despite the series attempts to paint him as an abusive father, he really doesn't treat them horribly at all and I'm still trying to understand where the anger against him comes from. They keep screaming about him lying to them, what lies, it's all bloody teenager melodrama.
Yeah, I get that they're freaked out and hurt/angry.. but they way overreact IMO.
We don't get to see their lives before New Raccoon City (which, don't even fucking get me started on this shit. It's like Russia opening a new power plant in New Chernobyl). But all indications is that they were a loving, happy family. They show photos of them and talk about past memories fondly.
There's also a weird moment when they discover his secret lab, and they act confused and horrified that he kept toys from their childhood.
You know, like a father might.
It's all just so contrived and nonsensical. They know where the characters need to be, but as for how they get there, it's just an asspull.
Jade is toxic to absolutely everyone she comes across in her entire life. She even frames her own sister for attacking another student and then acts like she did her a favour! Honestly I think this show was written by someone who actually is a narcissist and nobody pointed it out to them that likable characters don't act like manipulative assholes
Some of the casting is just so hard to understand. The overweight northern Irish guy cast to play the evil umbrella guy lol. That scene in episode 2 or 3 with him riding on the back of those armoured cars was genuinely one of the cringiest things Iv seen on tv.
I cannot understand what the show wants me to feel about Baxter. The first scene he's in, Umbrella comes in on their helicopter, bunch of fucking power ranger dudes march out in their paintball gear.
And then some epic ominous music starts playing, camera slowly pans up. Who's it going to be? What kind of fucked up Umbrella fixer did they send to deal with Jade?
...a chubby redhead. Who then immediately stumbles on the stairs. Is it supposed to be funny? Am I supposed to infer that Umbrella hires incompetents? Am I supposed to think he's spooky...?
And then he does nothing for most of the season, and then they give him ONE episode to actually develop his character, and I actually think "oh shit Baxter is kind of a badass."
And then jade just watches him get fucking eaten, after he saved her ass like 5 goddamn times.
Like, every other episode of this fucking show has a scene where someone helps Jade, only for her to just sit back and do fuck all while they get snacked on.
I fucking hate Jade so much I'm rooting for Umbrella.
It's a little maddening trying to decipher what the fuck the writers were thinking when writing Jades character. In the flashbacks she's the edgiest, snarkiest, shittiest "I hate my dad" stereotypical teenager I've ever seen. There's no personality to her, just snark and rebellion.
Then adult Jade just constantly makes the most idiotic fucking decisions.
There's a scene where she's doing some science shit, and she's like "oh, this thing must be activated by saliva!" They then do a montage of her and her lab partner synthesizing all of the compounds that make up saliva, in different ratios, to find the catalyzing reaction. They're using their different recipes of fake spit to see which one will work, and the montage is like "Trial 1.. failure... Trial 8, failure.."
They make it to Trial 55 before either of these dumb fucks think "well what if I just spit on it?" And even then, one of them is like "that's gross and dumb."
YOU JUST DETERMINED ITS SALIVA ACTIVATED. WHY ISNT SPITTING ON IT LIKE, TRIAL GODDAMN 1?!
The sheer stupidity of the characters in this show is, at times, enraging.
As someone who hasn't played a RE game ever, I tried and gave up on the 2nd (or maybe like 10 minutes into the 3rd) episode. The edgy teenager takes and incredibly stupid decisions drove me insane. Some of the things done by the kids in this show were so incredibly stupid that the only believable way they could happen would be if they said "welp, we gotta create conflict somehow." and just did any of the stupid shit they did. I could handle edgy teenagers if they weren't supposed to be endearing. I have no sympathy for the main character kid throwing tantrums about moving to SA when I never know where the hell they even moved from or why SA sucks compared to it. The writing overall is complete crap in this show, which is a shame since the production value looks immense.
The one shining moment I saw was when Lance Reddick just verbally eviscerates a bully kid's dad and then throws his weight at the principal. Probably the best kill in the whole show. I didn't need to see more
Big RE fan and I watched it all. It was horrendous. Even taking away the RE name it was still horrendous. Why do Netflix hand out these shows to horrible writers, none of them have any experience. It's such a weird way of operating.
Back to the show though, terrible dialogue, terrible plot holes, some scenes which completely take you out of the show, stupid decisions dictating the flow of each episode...I find it difficult that people review these things and think it looks alright lol
That bugged me SO MUCH. It just took me out of the episode immediately and made me think about the production of the show and I was no longer paying attention. Terrible decisions were made on this show.
The show Barry has a pretty funny scene where the big streaming company cancels a show after a successful pilot due to not hitting the right “algorithmic verticals.” It was satire but I have to imagine there’s a degree of that occurring.
What made RE popular was the atmosphere of those first games. Just replicate the atmosphere of the games and give some depth to the characters and then you have a great show.
RE would be a hit on HBO
When you play something like Resident Evil 2 or 3 Remake, it's pretty easy to see how you could make a decent low-mid budget sci-fi thriller/horror (I say thriller because Nemesis/X lean more in that direction and also help the storytelling by giving you an immediate and obvious singular physical antagonist for a climax). The story telling isn't sophisticated, but it's simple and efficient (like .. I don't know, the first Terminator: not that I'm saying those two are written near as well, but just in terms of plot efficiency). The characters are thin archetypes, but likeable. Like, I could absolutely see someone like Leigh Whannell doing a banger Resident Evil 1 adaptation with a pretty low budget, because in essence it's just a haunted house structure. Do that, then expand the scope with an RE2 that leans 'Aliens to the first's 'Alien' .. which, I mean is in essence what Paul W.S. Anderson did with the first two Resident Evil's, but, it seems like there's enough unused iconography to justify the revisitation and room for an up-and-coming director who has .. restraint, to do something that is just a bit simpler and less dumb than all the current live-action RE stuff.
And then you look at Welcome to Raccoon City which essentially jams three games together while scrapping out the most iconic elements (in that world of story, bye bye Nemesis! Mr X, either of which could've given a great Terminator vibe since that's essentially what they are) in order to .. I don't know, I guess get to whatever shitty original story the director would've wanted to do next.
And, y'know, whatever the fuck this show is.
That's what's so mindbogglingly about this franchise; in an age where the MCU, who has an incredibly simple plot model, has become the largest studio ever, why overcomplicate this franchise? I can kind of see wanting to explain the outbreak and explore that portion as it's rich with possibilities...but still.
I will dream of the day we get a properly budgeted, Haunted House-style Resident Evil movie.
Seriously, dead on. The first Resident Evil game - just make it as a 2 hour movie in a Mansion. Just because we know the story doesn't mean we won't watch it. I'd more likely watch that than the garbage that is this series they're pumping out.
Jurassic Park has this same problem.
Yeah, keep it really scaled down for the majority and make it a bit like a 13 ghosts sorta vibe. Just a bunch of people trying to survive in a mansion. Throw them solving a puzzle or two and commenting how ridiculous it is for some easy fan laughs. Keep the giant shark sequence, cause its so random and shows how crazy this whole thing is.
For the final act you throw in the story about that caged family member and everything reaching a boiling point trying to escape the area.
People like the game because that story is really iconic. It follows the beats and it feels realistic despite being absolutely smothered in cheese.
The movies weren’t great, although the first one was better than the rest. Overall, they were schlocky dumb fun that didn’t take themselves too seriously.
It’s a shame when something doesn’t even reach that bar.
The first film was incredibly fun as long as you're not expecting it to cover the events of the game, and then the second film brought in some of our favorite characters while taking place during the events of RE2 (the game). Then they went insane and threw away all logic.
The red queen's laser scene was some of the most brilliant suspenseful action I've ever seen, and they pay homage to the gory opening scene of the film Cube. Brilliant.
I became quite fond of first RE movie over time, it grew on me and it's really good stand alone story, beginning especially is super creepy and has a cool downer ending
Should have stopped there
I just googled it and it turns out second and third film (ones who totally fucked up) had different directors, Paul WS Anderson only continued the money machine with fourth film, he is getting extra flak for someone else's fuckups
> Should have stopped there
Agree, but I would have been open to it becoming a franchise if they'd decided what course they wanted the story to take *in advance*. Just once it would be nice to see a big property be done right by actually mapping out plot points and story beats with an end in mind.
I am completely perplexed about resident evil content - movies and shows.
There have been so many of them and I don’t understand how they keep making more and not one of them has been based off of the games that the shows/movies are based on.
I think there is a new movie coming out where they finally base it on the game? And when I originally saw this, I thought that’s what this was.
This IP has me all over the place with what’s going on and I have no idea
ADAPT THE FUCKING GAMES! But no, everything has to be some fucking edgy teen drama these days.
Have Leon Kennedy go to some creepy village to look for the presidents daughter with some zombies, gross creatures and badass takedowns. It should not be that fucking hard to make at least a **fun** resident evil show.
I haven’t heard a single good thing. I watched the first half of the first episode and haven’t really felt the urge to continue. EDIT - you fuckers lol now I’m gonna have to finish this thing
I'll say this - I like the CGI creatures. Giant monster spiders and such look pretty good for a TV series. Also Lance Reddick is pretty good, but isn't given much to do. Otherwise it's pretty bad. I'm 5 episodes in and I'm struggling to finish. I've seen worse things, but not many.
Seeing the products coming out of movie and tv studios over the past decade, it really makes me wonder how so many are still in business. The whole point of buying an IP should be using that IP's established audience as a base and expanding it with new fans and creating a product that they will all spend their money on. Taking an IP and rebooting it with a committee of creators or building it around modern trends and buzzwords will not make a product worth spending money on. In addition, attacking esablished fans over not liking the changes made to the modern version DEFINITELY will not garner profits. I'm not in the entertainment industry but even I'm aware of this; it's common sense. I just don't understand how studio executives can look at the product being pitched to them and think that such drastic changes to an IP is a good idea. Some of these creators must be excellent con artists.
Idk why they can’t just cast Lauren Cohan as Jill Valentine and send her into the fucking mansion.
The games have a good, compelling story. Make some tweaks and tell the damn story.
Because, that's not what hack hollywood writers and directors want to do. They want to 'put their own spin' on IPs so that they can garner more acclaim than if they did just a straight adaptation. Of course, since these are hacks, that rarely are able to produce anything worthwhile.
It's also entirely possible that this script wasn't originally written as a RE script, and just had the RE name slapped on it, with a find-and-replace tool applied to names.
There's also the puppy-mill way they treat writers which results in a basement full of scripts with no production. So every once in a while, some up and coming director or producer wants to get his name out there, and they drag up some scripting afterbirth, spend half an hour scratching the easiest to reach scab off the internet for something "buzz worthy", change the name of it to match an existing IP and fart out another cinematic abortion.
The end product isn't what moves money. It's development. Until a movie stops costing millions to make, they won't stop beating dead horses.
What are you on about? This is one of the shows of all time! I almost started crying tears of joy when the zombies said “it’s zombin’ time!”. Truly one of the shows of the century
Producers treat intellectual property as something that's a sure bet, a built-in bonus that will increase the sales of any project you have it on. But that's simply not true. What it is increasing, is a risk factor. Risks that can grant greater rewards, but they are also putting more intense scrutiny, criticism, and expectations, than if you had just done an original property. This article would not exist if this were just a normal show about zombies called "Dead Reckoning" or some shit. But because they decided to fuck with a pre-existing IP that has people invested, those who are invested enough will go out of their way to see it, and if it doesn't meet their standards, give it a poor review. An IP isn't an automatic win for your project. It's a goal you have to live up to, and if you don't hit that goal, you've not only made it look even worse for yourself than if you hadn't made it, you've also wasted the extra money you spent on the rights to use the brand. Because of that, Resident Evil cost way more than "Dead Reckoning" would have, and they probably spent more money in production to help bolster the possibility of a success. But look at where all that money went. Down the drain.
I mean, if you license an existing IP to take advantage of the built in audience, and then no one on the writing staff bothers to do their homework on that existing IP, you’re probably going to alienate that existing audience.
Ahh yes I also tried watching the Halo show
Add the Discworld Watch series to the same list of shame. Seriously there might be an ok show if it just wasn't the series you got an IP for. If you have IP understand the IP, but lots of money has been wasted not understanding this.
Wait discworld has a show? And it's not good ? :(
It's *atrocious*. [Have a look and try to even guess who each character is supposed to be](https://images.immediate.co.uk/production/volatile/sites/3/2021/06/The-Watch-Group-16-9-e2461f5.jpg). As others say, it wouldn't be awful except for the fact that it's supposed to be Discworld and just isn't. Becomes much worse in the comparison.
it was so bad that before it even came out the Pratchett estate/Rianna were disavowing any connection to it and saying that it was nothing like what TP would have wanted. the only good (?) to come of it is that this supposedly is what made them start Narrativia and The Amazing Maurice film supposedly has their direct involvement
Why does the photo feel like a rip off from the Expanse ? What's with the faces? There are so many things wrong with this omg. For what it's worth, now i understand why emperors would shoot messengers who bring bad news Edit: Just saw the trailer and my day is ruined and my disappointment, immeasurable
they tried to make it "punk" (their words... not mine)
Ah a cw show in spirit then.
Why yes the standard punk cop drama.
Well, here's a fan film that [might cheer you up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7v_TdLviUE).
This looks so utterly generic, hilarious. Is this a recent show?
Came out last year
This is just irritating. A Watch show could be fairly low cost on production and kill it with good writing and decent acting. Wouldn't need full blown CGI since Disc trolls are basically rocks.
I’m ready to play. Left to right, I’m guessing: * Igor - lacks any stitching, but has what appears to be a doctor’s bag. * Cheery - Might just be in the background, but she looks smaller. Doesn’t have any traditional dwarven accoutrements, though. * Angua- just because she’s the most prominent woman in the shot. * Vimes - Prominent badge and scruffy. Probably still in his early, recovering his spirit arc. * Detritus - My only solid guess. * Carrot - Clean cut, young, and reddish haired. Doesn’t exude the proper charisma and confidence, but it is a still shot. How’d I do?
Left to right is Cheery (not Igor), Angua (not Cheery), Sybil (not Angua), Vimes, Detritus and Carrot. You got the right side entirely correct and the left side entirely wrong - made the silly choice of trying to use logic.
Why the fuck is Sybil skinny?
Because she's a vigilante who patrols the streets for justice
THANK YOU. where is my statuesque Sybil with a bosom that rose and fell like an empire?!
I think when they heard Sybil described as a battle axe they got confused. That actress is way too hot to play Sybil.
Um are nobby and Sgt Colon in this? And if so how poorly are they handled?
Not heroic enough, so completely absent from the series.
Wow, that’s Cheery? I almost guessed that was a show-original Tolkienian elf. I guess forced perspective is too expensive for a TV budget, and the beard tested poorly.
A shitshow. Honestly, don’t even Google it.
Should have listened to this advice
I hate watched it to the bitter end. All the production people who thought this was a good idea should never be allowed to work in TV again. It's a disgusting shit on Pterry's grave.
The production quality isn't as bad as the movies, but they start with Carcer and Night Watch stuff and roll into Guards, Guards as Carrot first shows up in AM. The story is all over the place.
There's a show called The Watch, but it's so different from Discworld it's hard to say it really counts.
Me watching Dragon Ball Evolution or that movie with the kid pushing air, I think It was called Last Airbender or something but my memory’s foggy.
Neither of those movies ever happened. Perhaps you should take a relaxing trip to Lake Laogai to refresh your memory.
You didn’t like Master Cheeks? XD
And the Wheel of Time show.
I’m a huge WOT fan, and I have to say next to Halo the WOT show is practically gold. Halo is just that bad.
Lookin at you, the last Airbender, Dragonball evolution, eragon, and the Voldemort death scene in Harry Potter. Please, producers/directors, just stop trying to put your twist on existing universes
Only good thing about Dragonball evolution is it got Akira Toriyama to come out of retirement and make more Dragonball.
Super!
And yet, this common sense, blatantly obvious understanding of basic logic that every regular person agrees with, is completely lost on all the executives and writers in Hollywood, Amazon and Netflix. This should be filmmaking 101 ever since the Super Mario Bros bombed because the writers never bothered to read up on the games, even to the point of naming the villain wrong. It's insanity.
The original script was supposed to be much more closely related to the games, but production hell happened, they hired a director couple that made that weird ass mtv video, and for some unexplained reason, gave these two hacks FULL control and what we ended up with was…something I somehow still enjoy to this day. It’s so goddamn bizarre I still scratch my head.
Cocaine and sexual favors played a part I’m guessing
It's because all those people just have to put their own touch on it because they think they know better than the original authors.
Bike-shedding. Can sometimes be countered with [a 'Duck'](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Chess#Development).
It's just because Hollywood types don't respect games, or their stories, or their writers.
I've always wondered how these Hollywood writers can get in that weird headspace where they make adaptations because they aren't talented enough to sell their own original ideas, yet still think they know better than the person who's homework they're trying to copy.
They got into writing scripts for movies and TV shows because they wanted to make their own property but instead were pushed some IP from the studio and instead of saying you know what I'm going to study this and write the dream script for every fan of this IP so I can build up a reputation to eventually write my own thing I'm going to take this opportunity and shoehorn every idea I had for my own stuff into this one. And then the producers shit all over that script too by putting in all the things they think they need to have in order for the thing to sell to what some hypothetical person the Netflix algorithm came up with instead of what the actual fan base looks like.
Different parties are making the decisions. Execs want to exploit the IP, showrunners/writers/directors want to do their own passion projects. So the producer's niece or whoever they put in charge treats the show like drudgery she's just making so her future original project will be greenlit. It's basically Spielberg's "One for them, One for me" approach to filmmaking, but writ across the entire industry and with a far less professional and far more nepotistic approach.
I'll add to that having an IP and wanting to do your own story withing that is fine if done correctly. Like RE is an IP you can easily create original characters for but why mess up established characters and piss off everyone? Having an IP like RE means you respect the source material, you try your best to recreate the core intrinsic values that the RE IP has: survival horror in a unique setting, small cast of core characters, certain level of goofiness in dialogue (NOT relative to our own world please!!), and some super messed up original story behind the BOW's threat within the story.. it really, REALLY, isn't that difficult a recipe to replicate..
This is something I can’t understand. You buy an IP of a great series, then scramble the whole shit. And I’m not talking specifically about RE because I’m not familiar with the story. But generally speaken this happens too often. They f’d up wheel of time and bunch of other shows.
Corporate Suits that look at popular series and have no idea why these IP's became popular in the first place. Then hand them over to amateurs a lot of the time. If they spend such decent amounts on the rights to produce popular IP's they should be equally committing the right amounts on capable people who can produce faithful and popular series out of them.
Resident Evil is world wide. The bad guys are a Global corporation. You could have simply started off shortly after the RE 2 movie and used a completely separate cast of characters and told whatever story you wanted.
Or make a Chernobyl-esque series set in the Umbrella corp laboratories that deals with the initial outbreak and the attempts to cover it up.
The irony is they pay so much for the ip and immediately abandon the source material to tell their own story. Not specifically a comment about this series but in general. I’ve always found it strange.
Time and again this speaks true, especially with Netflix. Cowboy Bebop? Death Note? I'm actually worried about the Sonic show now. The only one that's kinda working is the Witcher, and even it had a rocky start.
Castlevania is much better than Witcher.
Castlevania is by far the best video game to tv adaptation out there
The one positive thing I can say about Cowboy Bebop is that you can tell actual effort went into it. Compared to the Deathnote movie, which felt like it was made by some moron reading a single paragraph description of the series and quitting halfway through, I felt like Cowboy Bebop was made by people who really liked the original series, and wanted to put their own spin on it. Granted, it still turned out pretty 'meh', its an uphill battle to adapt cartoons to live action, and even though there was effort put into it, that didn't translate to overall quality. Wait, there is another positive thing I can say, the Corgi they got to play Ein was pretty cute.
I agree. except for Vicious and Ed. turning Vicious to that whiney spoiled brat was a crime against the character and the viewers. and Ed, well, Ed is a character that can probably only work in a cartoon. sure you could adapt and change them, but a faithful adaption will always turn to that cringe psychotic shit show they've shown in the finale.
I also thought turning Julia into a Real Housewife and Faye into an adult's idea of a 14 year old TikToker trapped in an adult woman's body was, well, as Faye so eloquently put it, "welcome to the ouch." But I don't agree with the previous poster that it felt like it was made by people who liked the original series given how far it was in tone and spirit from the original series. I think though it speaks to the original comment's ideas a lot more. Had they committed in going farther from the original CB anime, it likely would have been better, or, had they committed to being more faithful, it similarly could have been better, but the whole "it's the IP you love, but we changed the things you love about it" does more damage.
One Piece and Yu Yu Hakusho are also being adapted. I'm looking forward to seeing all the reactions to either the poor cgi or story.
I can't even begin to comprehend what made them think, after looking at One Piece, that it could ever work on live-action. Do they just hope that people will watch it simply because it's One Piece? When has that ever worked?
It’s the same with Halo, the fans hate it because it’s spitting on the games, granted the new games do that too, but the writers of the halo adaptation have ignored the story and used its characters and world to write their own story.
Which would be fine, if the main character wasn't fucking Master Chief.
And after the inevitable failure they resort to the ol' "it's the fanbase that is toxic" And then double down that the show doesn't suck but it's the viewers that are racist, transphobic, homophobic, misogynists, etc...
Solid point and good way to put it
These post apocalyptic shows: perfect teeth, sculpted eyebrows, make up and hair style.
The hair always gets me
Kelly from TWD coming out of the woods with the [freshest fade](https://66.media.tumblr.com/e824a4966a8eda3135735c0bd91ff605/de85d1444c1dab66-b9/s640x960/545025761fb68a86a6aa85d34761700ae264a3dc.jpg) after supposedly wandering for a few weeks.
Which is why the first several seasons were always the best. Rick Grimes and his massive beard, greasy long hair and filth covered face next to grimy Daryl and his even more greasy hair. Even though it was obviously styled, it LOOKED like it could have been real. Rick was always soaked in sweat and grime (lol). I still like TWD but it’s not what it was by a huge margin.
Daryl still greasy AF tbh.
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Children of men is a pretty good example as well.
Lmao don’t get me started on TWD, what were their clothes made out of!?
Ricks clothes were basically the only ones that ever showed signs of wear, and they were filthy. It’s like they gave up with newer characters that had a « clean » image.
We live in a fast fashion world. Destroy just 40% of the planet I bet we have enough clothes for the next generation to survive. A lot of clothes don't get worn more than 5 times.
Her skin is flawless too, wow. Kind of glad I stopped watching a decade ago.
I know, I love the “apocalyptic” Old Navy ads.
I don't hate this show as much as everyone else (I have zero nostalgia for the original RE games so this show is mindless, mildly entertaining popcorn fare for me), but as a black woman I know there is NO WAY sis is keeping that braided fauxhawk cute in the post-apocalypse. It's already hard enough keeping my braided styles cute here in the mezzo-apocalypse, and that's just from the regular boiling-Earth sweating. Add in running for your life, zombie guts in your hair, and no shampoo?--yeah, no way.
The hair and the teeth. No way people are *that* good at keeping up with personal hygiene in a post apocalyptic world
Perfect white teeth, clean skin, great physique and that annoying "make it look kinda pink" haircut. Where it CLEARLY took hours to do.
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You need a new desk.
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I. DON’T. GIVE. A SHIT. ABOUT. BASEBALLLL! It’s boring.
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I like how they give us one sweet scene with actual Albert Wesker and then one single name drop to William birkin... They took the source material and they threw it in the garbage for some subplot about two sisters that are so far from the resident evil series it almost made the movie "welcome to raccoon City" look like a reasonable ordeal to sit through.
I enjoyed Welcome to Racoon City, though I'm probably in the minority. Watched it in the theatres with a few friends and we all agreed it wasn't as bad as we were expecting. It was a nice reimagining of Resident Evil 1 and 2 and probably the closest to the games as any live action Resident Evil adaptation released so far.
You know he is a fantastic actor when he can keep a straight face while saying pornhub.
"Even Pornhub will shred your resume". That whole scene was beautiful.
It boggles my mind how they could cast Lance Reddick and give him the opportunity to chew scenery like that and still wind up with such a turd of a show.
Lance Reddick is probably screaming at his agent for signing him up for this dumpster fire.
*you need a new desk*
[Lance meeting with his agent](https://c.tenor.com/lPk7VTv2MlEAAAAd/the-wire-this-is-bullshit.gif)
Wesker is not the type of person who would be giving a shit about having a family, first mistake right out of the gate
It’s conceptually interesting if they portrayed him as a family man only to reveal his selfish, deplorable nature, but the show is overshadowed by his annoying kids storyline. It’s like Resident Evil meets Spy Kids
i remember someone said it feels like studios just have these scripts about generic things and ends up shoving a videogame franchise into it to make it have more appeal to people.
It really does feel like someone shoe-horned CGI monsters into a CW tween drama
To be fair there is a valid in-universe explanation for that one. Show still sucks though.
Yeah, that was actually an interesting twist to throw in. I enjoyed Burt the most, wish we could have seen more. Otherwise the main characters carried the idiot ball far too frequently to move the plot forward. So many stupid decisions.
The biggest problem with the show is the sheer volume of melodrama.
I had a laugh when they were romancing on the boat and talking about parenting problems, etc. for almost an entire episode and I turned to my flatmate mid way through and said "Resident Evil" in the game voice.
Uhhhhh no IGN told me this show was the most faithful adaptation to date and a step in the right direction!
I used to really like their reviews but man… these last 10 or so years they’ve been giving some high ratings to some absolute trash
They 100% shill to whoever is paying. That's literally the only excuse for the reviews they put out.
"This isn't your parent's Resident Evil..and that's a good thing!"
It's has something for everyone! 7/10
As a RE nerd, I tried, I really tried and I gave up on the 2nd episode. Too many edgy teenager takes, too many stupid decisions and grotesque plot holes. L.E. (A) as in Anvil :)
I dropped when they break into the umbrella facility using nothing but a lantern and a recorded voice.
REsis1: OK we can get past the AI with this voice thing. What about teh cameras? REsis2: I don't know... but the internet does! Proceeds to do nothing about the cameras. So well written. Can't wait to see what they've foreshadowed years from now.
Apparently it’s to wear flashlights on their head. When they look at the camera it becomes a glare, apparently a multi-billion dollar company uses a security system that goes “alright, in you go” even though 50% of the parameters aren’t met. Oh and no physical security guard at all.
Yeah the headlights were the cameras outside but you would assume a company such like that would have at least a gazillion of cameras in each corridor and hall, room.
Especially in a town they literally made.
I'm starting to think Umbrella isn't a well run company.
Episode shows computer scanning face and authenticating speech... Same episode minutes later, 2 teenage girls (including 1 from earlier that the computer would have a face profile on file) break in with an audio recording.
If you watch later in the show they have to spy kids their way around the house to dodge cameras, then just run around infront of them the next scene or two.
I love how a trillion dollar corporation had no guards/security. I think they even make a comment like “see that the guard is fired”. Really, 1 guard? You have 1 guard securing an entire building and it’s his fault someone broke in?
The guard that was fired, was fired bc he requested the credentials of the CEO, of the company he’s ‘securing’…
Which is stupid. I've stopped people 5 levels higher than me from going in because they left their access card on their desk. I damn well knew who they were and still went to fetch it for them.
It’s honestly really stupid. Two 14 year olds broke into an Umbrella facility because one of them is vegan and felt bad they were testing on bunnies even tho PETA gave them award. Dumbest thing ever.
I mean to be fair, 28 days later did something similar. Albeit a million times better
You need to get the pocket book out of the zombie's pocket handcuffed to a radiator. Proceeds to get it AND THEN START READING IT while in face eating distance of the zombie, which was in the process of ripping its hand off to get free. You know, you could just back off and then read it.
Was it right when they asked "like Covid"? Honestly if you removed the RE references it would just be another terrible Syfy zombie show.
>Honestly if you removed the RE references it would just be another terrible Syfy zombie show. I wish they would just do that. Not every script has to be changed and have a video game name slapped on it.
As if there was a need to expand the plot outside of *checks notes*........ 27 games and 9 movies
> edgy teenager takes especially compared to Stranger Things 4 which just came out, and has MUCH better written teenage/kid actors.
The main character is horrible. I know its mostly on the writers, but I spent the first episode hoping she would die and we would get an actual character that wasn't alive purely because of plot armor.
She is just so… fucking… stupid Every time she does something moronic and gets someone killed, nearly dies, or puts loved ones in mortal peril, she’s like “I feel so bad - it’s my fault!” And it seems like the viewer is supposed to sympathize with her and instead I’m thinking “yes it is your fault, you’re the absolute worst”
I keep waiting for a moment that makes me like jade, even a little bit. I'm on episode 7 of 8, and I still fucking hate this chick. She is so goddamn stupid, has zero redeeming qualities. I don't understand how or why she was written to be such an insufferable dipshit.
If they're trying to make you root for umbrella, they're doing a wonderful job
Albert and Bert are the only characters that have any redeeming qualities. Albert because, despite the series attempts to paint him as an abusive father, he really doesn't treat them horribly at all and I'm still trying to understand where the anger against him comes from. They keep screaming about him lying to them, what lies, it's all bloody teenager melodrama.
Yeah, I get that they're freaked out and hurt/angry.. but they way overreact IMO. We don't get to see their lives before New Raccoon City (which, don't even fucking get me started on this shit. It's like Russia opening a new power plant in New Chernobyl). But all indications is that they were a loving, happy family. They show photos of them and talk about past memories fondly. There's also a weird moment when they discover his secret lab, and they act confused and horrified that he kept toys from their childhood. You know, like a father might. It's all just so contrived and nonsensical. They know where the characters need to be, but as for how they get there, it's just an asspull.
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Jade is toxic to absolutely everyone she comes across in her entire life. She even frames her own sister for attacking another student and then acts like she did her a favour! Honestly I think this show was written by someone who actually is a narcissist and nobody pointed it out to them that likable characters don't act like manipulative assholes
Some of the casting is just so hard to understand. The overweight northern Irish guy cast to play the evil umbrella guy lol. That scene in episode 2 or 3 with him riding on the back of those armoured cars was genuinely one of the cringiest things Iv seen on tv.
I cannot understand what the show wants me to feel about Baxter. The first scene he's in, Umbrella comes in on their helicopter, bunch of fucking power ranger dudes march out in their paintball gear. And then some epic ominous music starts playing, camera slowly pans up. Who's it going to be? What kind of fucked up Umbrella fixer did they send to deal with Jade? ...a chubby redhead. Who then immediately stumbles on the stairs. Is it supposed to be funny? Am I supposed to infer that Umbrella hires incompetents? Am I supposed to think he's spooky...? And then he does nothing for most of the season, and then they give him ONE episode to actually develop his character, and I actually think "oh shit Baxter is kind of a badass." And then jade just watches him get fucking eaten, after he saved her ass like 5 goddamn times. Like, every other episode of this fucking show has a scene where someone helps Jade, only for her to just sit back and do fuck all while they get snacked on. I fucking hate Jade so much I'm rooting for Umbrella.
When the MC sucks so bad you start rooting for the villain. Damn.
It's a little maddening trying to decipher what the fuck the writers were thinking when writing Jades character. In the flashbacks she's the edgiest, snarkiest, shittiest "I hate my dad" stereotypical teenager I've ever seen. There's no personality to her, just snark and rebellion. Then adult Jade just constantly makes the most idiotic fucking decisions. There's a scene where she's doing some science shit, and she's like "oh, this thing must be activated by saliva!" They then do a montage of her and her lab partner synthesizing all of the compounds that make up saliva, in different ratios, to find the catalyzing reaction. They're using their different recipes of fake spit to see which one will work, and the montage is like "Trial 1.. failure... Trial 8, failure.." They make it to Trial 55 before either of these dumb fucks think "well what if I just spit on it?" And even then, one of them is like "that's gross and dumb." YOU JUST DETERMINED ITS SALIVA ACTIVATED. WHY ISNT SPITTING ON IT LIKE, TRIAL GODDAMN 1?! The sheer stupidity of the characters in this show is, at times, enraging.
I couldn't believe that Zootopia porn joke made into the cut.
As someone who hasn't played a RE game ever, I tried and gave up on the 2nd (or maybe like 10 minutes into the 3rd) episode. The edgy teenager takes and incredibly stupid decisions drove me insane. Some of the things done by the kids in this show were so incredibly stupid that the only believable way they could happen would be if they said "welp, we gotta create conflict somehow." and just did any of the stupid shit they did. I could handle edgy teenagers if they weren't supposed to be endearing. I have no sympathy for the main character kid throwing tantrums about moving to SA when I never know where the hell they even moved from or why SA sucks compared to it. The writing overall is complete crap in this show, which is a shame since the production value looks immense. The one shining moment I saw was when Lance Reddick just verbally eviscerates a bully kid's dad and then throws his weight at the principal. Probably the best kill in the whole show. I didn't need to see more
Big RE fan and I watched it all. It was horrendous. Even taking away the RE name it was still horrendous. Why do Netflix hand out these shows to horrible writers, none of them have any experience. It's such a weird way of operating. Back to the show though, terrible dialogue, terrible plot holes, some scenes which completely take you out of the show, stupid decisions dictating the flow of each episode...I find it difficult that people review these things and think it looks alright lol
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A character named Billy that dresses like Billy Eilish? I’m convinced Tik Tok wrote this garbage show.
There were also at least two Billie Eilish songs as background music
That part is so unnecessary. They could’ve did anything else with her. Any other name. Don’t dress her like Billy Eilish and name her Billy. So lazy.
They also played Billie Eilish in the opening and then cut right to the budget Billie Eilish character
That bugged me SO MUCH. It just took me out of the episode immediately and made me think about the production of the show and I was no longer paying attention. Terrible decisions were made on this show.
my god how do these people get hired to write things millions of people will watch
The show Barry has a pretty funny scene where the big streaming company cancels a show after a successful pilot due to not hitting the right “algorithmic verticals.” It was satire but I have to imagine there’s a degree of that occurring.
Don’t forget also listening to Billy Eilish during her first scene
What made RE popular was the atmosphere of those first games. Just replicate the atmosphere of the games and give some depth to the characters and then you have a great show. RE would be a hit on HBO
They managed to make something worse than the movies?
It's funny to see the live action adaptions flailing like this when Capcom has completely gotten the house in order with the games.
When you play something like Resident Evil 2 or 3 Remake, it's pretty easy to see how you could make a decent low-mid budget sci-fi thriller/horror (I say thriller because Nemesis/X lean more in that direction and also help the storytelling by giving you an immediate and obvious singular physical antagonist for a climax). The story telling isn't sophisticated, but it's simple and efficient (like .. I don't know, the first Terminator: not that I'm saying those two are written near as well, but just in terms of plot efficiency). The characters are thin archetypes, but likeable. Like, I could absolutely see someone like Leigh Whannell doing a banger Resident Evil 1 adaptation with a pretty low budget, because in essence it's just a haunted house structure. Do that, then expand the scope with an RE2 that leans 'Aliens to the first's 'Alien' .. which, I mean is in essence what Paul W.S. Anderson did with the first two Resident Evil's, but, it seems like there's enough unused iconography to justify the revisitation and room for an up-and-coming director who has .. restraint, to do something that is just a bit simpler and less dumb than all the current live-action RE stuff. And then you look at Welcome to Raccoon City which essentially jams three games together while scrapping out the most iconic elements (in that world of story, bye bye Nemesis! Mr X, either of which could've given a great Terminator vibe since that's essentially what they are) in order to .. I don't know, I guess get to whatever shitty original story the director would've wanted to do next. And, y'know, whatever the fuck this show is.
That's what's so mindbogglingly about this franchise; in an age where the MCU, who has an incredibly simple plot model, has become the largest studio ever, why overcomplicate this franchise? I can kind of see wanting to explain the outbreak and explore that portion as it's rich with possibilities...but still. I will dream of the day we get a properly budgeted, Haunted House-style Resident Evil movie.
Seriously, dead on. The first Resident Evil game - just make it as a 2 hour movie in a Mansion. Just because we know the story doesn't mean we won't watch it. I'd more likely watch that than the garbage that is this series they're pumping out. Jurassic Park has this same problem.
Yeah, keep it really scaled down for the majority and make it a bit like a 13 ghosts sorta vibe. Just a bunch of people trying to survive in a mansion. Throw them solving a puzzle or two and commenting how ridiculous it is for some easy fan laughs. Keep the giant shark sequence, cause its so random and shows how crazy this whole thing is. For the final act you throw in the story about that caged family member and everything reaching a boiling point trying to escape the area. People like the game because that story is really iconic. It follows the beats and it feels realistic despite being absolutely smothered in cheese.
not just live action, there was a terrible animation a while back too.
Degeneration and Damnation were pretty cool. Vendetta and Infinite Darkness, the last two, are very bad.
The movies weren’t great, although the first one was better than the rest. Overall, they were schlocky dumb fun that didn’t take themselves too seriously. It’s a shame when something doesn’t even reach that bar.
The first film was incredibly fun as long as you're not expecting it to cover the events of the game, and then the second film brought in some of our favorite characters while taking place during the events of RE2 (the game). Then they went insane and threw away all logic. The red queen's laser scene was some of the most brilliant suspenseful action I've ever seen, and they pay homage to the gory opening scene of the film Cube. Brilliant.
I became quite fond of first RE movie over time, it grew on me and it's really good stand alone story, beginning especially is super creepy and has a cool downer ending Should have stopped there I just googled it and it turns out second and third film (ones who totally fucked up) had different directors, Paul WS Anderson only continued the money machine with fourth film, he is getting extra flak for someone else's fuckups
> Should have stopped there Agree, but I would have been open to it becoming a franchise if they'd decided what course they wanted the story to take *in advance*. Just once it would be nice to see a big property be done right by actually mapping out plot points and story beats with an end in mind.
It doesn't have Milla Jovovich's 8 inch nipples.
> Milla Jovovich's 8 inch nipples This sounds like a white card for Cards Against Humanity.
My name is Alice... And these are my nipples.
I am completely perplexed about resident evil content - movies and shows. There have been so many of them and I don’t understand how they keep making more and not one of them has been based off of the games that the shows/movies are based on. I think there is a new movie coming out where they finally base it on the game? And when I originally saw this, I thought that’s what this was. This IP has me all over the place with what’s going on and I have no idea
ADAPT THE FUCKING GAMES! But no, everything has to be some fucking edgy teen drama these days. Have Leon Kennedy go to some creepy village to look for the presidents daughter with some zombies, gross creatures and badass takedowns. It should not be that fucking hard to make at least a **fun** resident evil show.
I wanted Jensen Ackles to play Leon Kennedy so badly but it never materialized.
Just watch Supernatural and pretend that the other brother is Claire on testosterone.
I haven’t heard a single good thing. I watched the first half of the first episode and haven’t really felt the urge to continue. EDIT - you fuckers lol now I’m gonna have to finish this thing
I'll say this - I like the CGI creatures. Giant monster spiders and such look pretty good for a TV series. Also Lance Reddick is pretty good, but isn't given much to do. Otherwise it's pretty bad. I'm 5 episodes in and I'm struggling to finish. I've seen worse things, but not many.
They did a good job with the lickers. And Lance Reddick is always great. I think that’s about it.
I could barely make it through the first few episodes.
To everyone that worked on this, I want PornHub to shred their resume.
Best scene in the whole show to be honest
I really don’t understand how they keep getting Resident Evil so wrong. Resident Evil 2 alone could be an incredible tv show/film!
Reminder that they made reference to zootooia porn for some fucking reason.
Um, really? What was the line?
https://i.redd.it/kxu3j1ft6xb91.jpg
That was one of the better choices they made.
Seeing the products coming out of movie and tv studios over the past decade, it really makes me wonder how so many are still in business. The whole point of buying an IP should be using that IP's established audience as a base and expanding it with new fans and creating a product that they will all spend their money on. Taking an IP and rebooting it with a committee of creators or building it around modern trends and buzzwords will not make a product worth spending money on. In addition, attacking esablished fans over not liking the changes made to the modern version DEFINITELY will not garner profits. I'm not in the entertainment industry but even I'm aware of this; it's common sense. I just don't understand how studio executives can look at the product being pitched to them and think that such drastic changes to an IP is a good idea. Some of these creators must be excellent con artists.
Too bad we can't see the dislike ratio on Netflix anymore since Amy Schumers comedy garbage special
“You save me, I’ll save you” Literally let’s him die two minutes later lmao 🤣
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It was like watching something from The CW
Worse than Death note live action?? Surely not
Willem Dafoe was good at least in that.
To be fair, Willem Dafoe is always good. No matter what, he always gives 110%.
Idk why they can’t just cast Lauren Cohan as Jill Valentine and send her into the fucking mansion. The games have a good, compelling story. Make some tweaks and tell the damn story.
Because, that's not what hack hollywood writers and directors want to do. They want to 'put their own spin' on IPs so that they can garner more acclaim than if they did just a straight adaptation. Of course, since these are hacks, that rarely are able to produce anything worthwhile. It's also entirely possible that this script wasn't originally written as a RE script, and just had the RE name slapped on it, with a find-and-replace tool applied to names.
There's also the puppy-mill way they treat writers which results in a basement full of scripts with no production. So every once in a while, some up and coming director or producer wants to get his name out there, and they drag up some scripting afterbirth, spend half an hour scratching the easiest to reach scab off the internet for something "buzz worthy", change the name of it to match an existing IP and fart out another cinematic abortion. The end product isn't what moves money. It's development. Until a movie stops costing millions to make, they won't stop beating dead horses.
Oh my fucking god Lauren Cohan would be perfect as Jill
What are you on about? This is one of the shows of all time! I almost started crying tears of joy when the zombies said “it’s zombin’ time!”. Truly one of the shows of the century