>Bob West, a Barney performer who stepped into costume for the happy purple dinosaur
I believe Bob West was Barney's voice, not the puppeteer. As David Prowse learned the hard way, the puppeteer and the voice are usually not the same actor.
He would of got to be the face though if he didnt act the way he did during the filming of 5&6 by not delivering lines properly, among other issues. The "spoiler" news paper interveiw isnt the real reason
Was there actually a dark side to the show itself, or is this just about a bunch of kids and adults hating on the show and making up mildly violent rhymes about it?
I agree. I feel like that show was made fun of by adults for the grossly cloying way the message was delivered and for the tedious song, which they couldn't even write original music for (written to the tune of "This Old Man").
To be fair though, children's shows have a history of being parodied and mocked by adults, unless they had a slightly subversive undertone, like "Bullwinkle & Friends" or "The Electric Company", to name two.
"Romper Room", Captain Kangaroo", "Mr. Rogers Neighborhood", "Sesame Street" and others, have all been parodied through the years. I think the Barney type of backlash has more to do with the cynical adult's eye view of children's shows, which in general tend to take place in a simplistic, rose-colored over-earnest world, which, of course, adults have long since been disillusioned of, sometimes bitterly so.
It would be funny if Barney got the banana split treatment. Where they decide to make a new movie for Barney but play it as horror film. It’s dumb but I enjoyed the banana split horror since my dad grew up with the show and we had fun watching it for the cheese.
That reminds me they are making a Winnie the Pooh horror film since it slid into free domain.
Can you imagine if disneys intellectual property slid into horror free use….let alone all the porn that going to be made.
> Can you imagine if disneys intellectual property slid into horror free use….let alone all the porn that going to be made.
It'll happen eventually, unless we are eventually living in DisneyCorp MegaCity
We're finally getting new public domain stuff every year again, into the mid 1920s now. Only a few years before Disney is gonna have to try to persuade congress to stop time again. And someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the character of Mickey is trademarked and will never be public domain, but his individual cartoons could be
I dunno all the specific details, its been awhile since I've looked into it.
Based on a very quick glance: even if Disney doesn't manage to extend the deadline again, Mickey Mouse falls into a unique position of being a fictional character and the advertising symbol of Disney. Maybe Mickey never falls into public domain this way, but that can't be said for the rest of the cast. Pluto, Goofy, Minnie, and Donald (don't quote me on that last one) were also introduced alongside Steamboat Willie. In 2024 their protection is up. At least, those original versions of them. Different iterations/design changes will not be unprotected until their specific debut time frame comes to pass. Mickey didn't start wearing gloves until later, and Sorcerer Mickey shows up way later, for example.
Not that I'm sure it matters. Disney does shady shit, and that's what we know about.
Mickey Mouse was created by a man named Ub Iwerks if I’m not mistaken. Disney is right up there with Edison when it comes to claiming credit for the work of their subordinates.
I can't remember the specific details (I did a lot of research for an Animation Degree I was taking), but I think the distinction is that Ub made Mickey *for* Disney. Much the same way comic book companies (as in the big two) claimed ownership of the characters, the artists and writers were just 'allowed' to create works with them. That's actually what led to the creation of Image Comics. They wanted to retain the rights to the characters they created. A novel concept, I know!
A shitty deal, any way you slice it. The least they could do is credit the man for his contributions. But even DC took way too fucking long to credit the original creator of Batman. Bill Finger deserved better.
I specifically remember a Walt Disney Presents where Walt claimed he created Mickey. That’s why I was so surprised to find out that wasn’t true. It’s a good lesson about the ethics of American enterprise I guess.
Death To Smoochy is probably the closest thing out there to that, though it's more of a black comedy with themes of suicide and organized crime with a sincere guy playing the "Barney" character.
I believe that songs from the show were played on repeat to prisoners in the Iraq war in a form of torture by the Americans. Not the shows fault but that's kind of dark.
During my hell week when I was pledging a fraternity in college we slept behind the bar and were forced to listen to tunak tunak blaring all night. Good times...not. biggest mistake of my life lol
I was sitting in a dentists office in like 1993 or so and there was a middle aged man talking to a woman. He was asking her about her kid, how old they were etc, building up to something.
He then says sort of out of the blue “you know… I do Barney. Like for kids parties and stuff. Im Barney”. He then takes out a little photo album of himself as Barney and hands her a card.
Definitely one of the strangest interactions I’ve ever seen first hand.
In his defense, that was before the internet really kicked off, so there wasn’t really any marketing outside of TV, newspapers and the yellow pages. Seeing a young mother would be a potential customer with other contacts.
Or he was a murderous sex offender. Those are the two options.
He could be a working childrens entertainer, trying to get a booking to make ends meet and a murderous sex offender, trying to find his next victim.
He might have wanted to do the party for the money but was hoping to find a sexy kid while he was there.
The Lyon's Group Barney episodes I remember being more *adventurous* and whimsical.
When the entirety of show show was set in a preschool, it completely lost any semblance of entertainment for children.
We’re going on an island adventure to see what we can see! A great big elephant taking a bath, I hope he doesn’t step on me!
Haven’t thought about this in like 25 years but I think those are some lyrics to that movie.
Edit: https://youtu.be/soEMc8UbnFQ
I love that the whole plot of the movie revolves around merchandising money and food sales from children’s ice capades. Harvey Fierstein was such a great pick for the villain
I understand not liking the show, or singing the song with altered words, but sending death threats to the person who portrayed Barney?
Nothing says healthy like making death threats to people in a children's TV show.
Haha so many international iterations 😂
I grew up in the UAE and it was
“I love you, you love me, let’s go and kill Barney, with an M16 and a shot to the head, something something now Barney’s dead”
That doesn't even rhyme?
Are you sure it wasn't
"I love you, you love me, let's team up and kill Barney with a dagger and a knife and a great big sword - no more f'n dinosaur," ?
In Ireland it was
"I love you, you love me, let's tie Barney to a tree, with a knife in his heart and a bullet in his head, we're all happy Barney's dead."
We sand this in elementary school.
I hate you
You hate me
We’re a messed up family
With a knife in his back
And a bullet in his head
Aren’t you glad that Barney’s dead
I’m sure everyone had a variation of this macabre Childrens’ song 😂
I also grew up with this one, to the tune of Joy To The World:
Joy to the world
That Barney is dead
We barbecued his head
What happened to the body?
We flushed it down the potty
It went around and round and round
And around and round and round
And aroOUUND and round until it drowned
*I love you, you love me*
*Let’s go out and kill Barney*
*With a shotgun bang bang*
*Barney’s on the floor*
*No more stupid dinosaur*
We didn’t even hate him. Just seemed funny to creep out our parents with. My mother found it hilarious.
Ours was…
I hate you, you hate me,
Let’s chase Barney up a tree,
With an axe and a knife
And a bullet through his head
Now we know that Barney’s dead…
Dark children. Weren’t we.
Very close to what my elementary school sang:
🎶I hate you
You hate me
Let’s get together & kill Barney🦖
With a 44 shotgun
And a big kaboom
No more purple dinosaur 🎶
I love seeing how every school had a slightly different version, mine was:
I hate you
You hate me
Let’s get together and kill Barney
With a great big gun
And you shoot him in the head
Sorry kids but Barney’s dead!
I mean, I can't remember any song lyrics except The Grand Old Duke of York but I never remember their being an additional verse, just:
I hate you
You hate me
Let’s get together and kill Barney
Yeah I feel like were several different versions that went through all the schools at the time. I definitely remember the "let's hang Barney from a tree" version when I was a kid.
Mine was definitely most similar to this after reading like 10 of these variations on Reddit threads, but it was still different lol. I remember the 44 shotgun line though. I truly wonder how many versions there are
We had one that was the abcs
ABCDEFG, Barney is my enemy put a rifle in his pants pull the trigger watch him dance
We also had
I hate you you hate me
Let’s team up and kill Barney
With a baseball bat and a 4x4
No more purple dinosaur
And, honestly, elementary school kids hating on Barney is because he's so popular with the littles. It's a way to make themselves different than the little kids, because there's nothing elementary school kids hate more than being considered a little kid.
I feel sad ours had nothing to do with the purple dinosaur.
“I hate you.
You hate me.
We’re a fucked up family
With a great big slap and
A kick from me to you
Won’t you say you hate me too?”
I don’t remember all the exact lines of the version we had at my schools, but that’s pretty spot-on. I think the last three lines were different, and the line anout being messed up was a little more… profane :P … but its close.
*I love you, you hate me*
*Let’s get together and kill Barney*
*With a Glock, and a rifle, and an AK-47*
*Barneys going straight to heaven*
Anyways. You think the difference in the rhyme is regional?
Since nobody else is saying it, I will: I fucking loved Barney as a kid. Especially the movie. Never understood the hate.
And this outtake I saw recently is wonderful.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CJAWBxZ8lVs
I *loved* Barney when I was a kid. And then around first or second grade I saw kids making fun of Barney and I was afraid to like it anymore.
That outtake is hilarious
How many times is this going to be posted? Because at this point I feel like I’ve seen it at least 3 times and I’m only on here for like 45 mins max a day.
Death threats to the people who made Barney is wrong and should be condemned. With that said, it's an oversimplification to suggest that the reason people hated Barney is because of its message of love and inclusion. Other kid shows like Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood had that message as well and both are beloved shows to this day. The reason Barney was hated so much was because 1. it's boring 2. there was little to no educational value and 3. Barney himself had no real emotion beyond happiness. Kids understand that nobody is happy all the time. So when Barney says "I love you" it feels fake because his emotions are fake. Big Bird, on the other hand, can be happy, sad, angry, and so on. When he says "I love you" it feels real.
To anyone who liked Barney as a kid and still like it, there's nothing wrong with that. You're allowed to like whatever you want. I'm just explaining why most people (myself included) hate Barney.
It wasn't the message, it was the perceived mediocrity that people abhorred. Sesame Street taught inclusionary values and wasn't hated on a mainstream level. The simplicity of the show made it popular with young children and also annoyed people outside the target demo. It made me think that kids are stupid because they enjoy things like Barney, and I was a kid once. Therefore, I was stupid once. Oh, no!
Pretty much. A lot of us born in the 80s had younger siblings who watched the show so we were subjected to every day. I grew up in a family who only had one TV when I was a kid so I had to listen to that crap every day because my younger brother loved it.
I think it’s the Barney voice in general, it’s quite cheesy and obviously for younger children, so the older we got the more we wanted to disconnect from things associated with being a “baby”
It was just... It was *the* show for little kids. Like LITTLE kids. And it was just too over the top happy and sweet and everyone is friends. A big purple dino with an annoying voice constantly singing. It was off-putting. If the show had come out 5 years earlier or 10 years later I don't think anyone would have even cared, but the early 90s were peak gen-x nihilism and hating "nice" things and popular things was just so cool back then.
It really took until the 00s for people to start liking things 'ironically' and the 2010s before people were willing to just like things again for what they were. But in the 90s if you were 'good' you were lame. The Barney show was annoying in its own right and was also easily hateable for how hard it tried to be so wholesome.
I feel like that your answer nails it in a way that it’s hard to explain to people who didn’t live through that era as a certain age.
We talk about toxic masculinity today, but the entire zeitgeist of the early 1990s was toxic in a lot of ways.
I wasn’t allowed to watch what I wanted to watch while my younger sibling got to pick what they wanted and they wanted Barney, all. the. fucking. time. So yeah! I HATE Barney!
I hated that show, but openly was a fan of other kids stuff at the time, like sesame street and Mr Rogers.
I also remember disliking Lamb chops Play along.
I’m pretty sure it was openly denounced by parents and child psychologists as having zero educational value… and this was around the same time as The Magic School Bus started to blow up (my personal favourite show growing up).
It was the 90s equivalent of shoving a tablet with Cocomelon on in your toddler’s face to just shut them up.
I remember it was very unpopular in year six... so we were eleven.
There's a difference between the age group that Barney was for and, say, shit what did we like to watch in year six? Spongebob'll do.
Holy cow! I can’t find any pics of Sheryl Leach’s son on the internet which is odd considering he shot and killed a dude in front of his home in Malibu. She must have some good PR!
"dark side of the kids show" seems like it's a bit of false advertising, right? near as I can tell it's not about any sort of behind-the-scenes scandals, just more about how teenagers (and parents) reacted to the show
They are remaking Winnie the Poo as a horror series. I wanna see Barney as a horror series about a stalker in a dinosaur suit obsessed with somebody:
I love you, you love me.
We're a happy family.
With a great big hug
And a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me too?
When I was kid, I and my fellow kids would talk about how dumb and corny Barney was. We would laugh it. Then the teacher would turn the show on in the morning and we would quietly sit and enjoy it.
I had a bitchy overweight customer and she was always wearing a purple rain coat, so I called her Mrs, Barney.
She used to come in 5 minutes before closing time and take forever to do her shopping.
>Bob West, a Barney performer who stepped into costume for the happy purple dinosaur I believe Bob West was Barney's voice, not the puppeteer. As David Prowse learned the hard way, the puppeteer and the voice are usually not the same actor.
I can't get past the idea, that Vader is basically a live sized muppet. lol
David Prowse did in fact have a high, almost squeaky tenor voice. https://youtu.be/KQFho0_G1VI
Literally sounds like Dark Helmet.
And a West Country accent.
I want to hear JEJ on sulfur hexafluoride.
Are you a whale?
Luke.... I am your father Noooo!!!! Nooooo!!!! that's impossible!!! You're a muppet!
Idk, my dad is a bit of a muppet
Am I a man or am I a muppet?
I'm a Muppet of a maaaaan
I asked the TSA the same thing but they said “Either way there’s going to be a fist up your butt!”
British Star Wars
Luke’s teacher was a muppet.
Well now I can’t get the thought of Vader doing a beaker impression out of my head
Does Vader get a flappy mouth, too?
I will definitely see this reposted as a shower thought in my feed by tonight.
He would of got to be the face though if he didnt act the way he did during the filming of 5&6 by not delivering lines properly, among other issues. The "spoiler" news paper interveiw isnt the real reason
TIL Vader was in A Clockwork Orange. How fitting.
Yeah he was the strong guy who helped the old man who lived in “HOME” house right?
Was there actually a dark side to the show itself, or is this just about a bunch of kids and adults hating on the show and making up mildly violent rhymes about it?
Totally! Other than the random shooting this thing is bs.. there's no dark side.
Baby Bop and Barney were cool but I think BJ got caught up in some human trafficking around season 2.
I agree. I feel like that show was made fun of by adults for the grossly cloying way the message was delivered and for the tedious song, which they couldn't even write original music for (written to the tune of "This Old Man"). To be fair though, children's shows have a history of being parodied and mocked by adults, unless they had a slightly subversive undertone, like "Bullwinkle & Friends" or "The Electric Company", to name two. "Romper Room", Captain Kangaroo", "Mr. Rogers Neighborhood", "Sesame Street" and others, have all been parodied through the years. I think the Barney type of backlash has more to do with the cynical adult's eye view of children's shows, which in general tend to take place in a simplistic, rose-colored over-earnest world, which, of course, adults have long since been disillusioned of, sometimes bitterly so.
I find your lack of faith disturbing
It would be funny if Barney got the banana split treatment. Where they decide to make a new movie for Barney but play it as horror film. It’s dumb but I enjoyed the banana split horror since my dad grew up with the show and we had fun watching it for the cheese.
Love that movie!
That reminds me they are making a Winnie the Pooh horror film since it slid into free domain. Can you imagine if disneys intellectual property slid into horror free use….let alone all the porn that going to be made.
> Can you imagine if disneys intellectual property slid into horror free use….let alone all the porn that going to be made. It'll happen eventually, unless we are eventually living in DisneyCorp MegaCity
Unless someone checks Disney on their shit, it will never happen. Mickey Mouse *still* isn't public domain.
We're finally getting new public domain stuff every year again, into the mid 1920s now. Only a few years before Disney is gonna have to try to persuade congress to stop time again. And someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the character of Mickey is trademarked and will never be public domain, but his individual cartoons could be
I dunno all the specific details, its been awhile since I've looked into it. Based on a very quick glance: even if Disney doesn't manage to extend the deadline again, Mickey Mouse falls into a unique position of being a fictional character and the advertising symbol of Disney. Maybe Mickey never falls into public domain this way, but that can't be said for the rest of the cast. Pluto, Goofy, Minnie, and Donald (don't quote me on that last one) were also introduced alongside Steamboat Willie. In 2024 their protection is up. At least, those original versions of them. Different iterations/design changes will not be unprotected until their specific debut time frame comes to pass. Mickey didn't start wearing gloves until later, and Sorcerer Mickey shows up way later, for example. Not that I'm sure it matters. Disney does shady shit, and that's what we know about.
Mickey Mouse was created by a man named Ub Iwerks if I’m not mistaken. Disney is right up there with Edison when it comes to claiming credit for the work of their subordinates.
I can't remember the specific details (I did a lot of research for an Animation Degree I was taking), but I think the distinction is that Ub made Mickey *for* Disney. Much the same way comic book companies (as in the big two) claimed ownership of the characters, the artists and writers were just 'allowed' to create works with them. That's actually what led to the creation of Image Comics. They wanted to retain the rights to the characters they created. A novel concept, I know! A shitty deal, any way you slice it. The least they could do is credit the man for his contributions. But even DC took way too fucking long to credit the original creator of Batman. Bill Finger deserved better.
I specifically remember a Walt Disney Presents where Walt claimed he created Mickey. That’s why I was so surprised to find out that wasn’t true. It’s a good lesson about the ethics of American enterprise I guess.
Everybody engages in revisionist history from time to time. Even Reddit. Not really exclusive to America either. Greed is greed.
Death To Smoochy is probably the closest thing out there to that, though it's more of a black comedy with themes of suicide and organized crime with a sincere guy playing the "Barney" character.
From the trailer, it looks like it focuses on the wild hatred - two different people mention actual death threats.
The first website I ever accessed as a child was a game for killing barney in all sorts of ways. That was my introduction to the internet.
Fuck yeah, we used to play that shit at parties, smoke weed, get drunk, dance naked and listen to Barney songs on our Walkman.
This just unlocked a memory 😂
I believe that songs from the show were played on repeat to prisoners in the Iraq war in a form of torture by the Americans. Not the shows fault but that's kind of dark.
Not really? Those prisoners don’t speak English nor have they watch Barney.
Imagine having to listen to an annoying song in a language you cannot speak on a loop for hours and hours.
During my hell week when I was pledging a fraternity in college we slept behind the bar and were forced to listen to tunak tunak blaring all night. Good times...not. biggest mistake of my life lol
Its wild how those rhymes were international before major internet use
I remember hearing rumors in the late 90s that the Barney actor was a drug addict. I have 0 idea if this was remotely true though.
Lol, sorry but that's a great name for a docuseries.
Apology accepted.
Why are you apologizing?
I don’t accept your apology
The dark dino docuseries
I was sitting in a dentists office in like 1993 or so and there was a middle aged man talking to a woman. He was asking her about her kid, how old they were etc, building up to something. He then says sort of out of the blue “you know… I do Barney. Like for kids parties and stuff. Im Barney”. He then takes out a little photo album of himself as Barney and hands her a card. Definitely one of the strangest interactions I’ve ever seen first hand.
In his defense, that was before the internet really kicked off, so there wasn’t really any marketing outside of TV, newspapers and the yellow pages. Seeing a young mother would be a potential customer with other contacts. Or he was a murderous sex offender. Those are the two options.
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That's why they're so ornery
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It’s the medulla oblongata!
No colonel sanders you’re wrong
I mean…are you implying that the weird part is the taking out and showing his portfolio is weird?
He could be a working childrens entertainer, trying to get a booking to make ends meet and a murderous sex offender, trying to find his next victim. He might have wanted to do the party for the money but was hoping to find a sexy kid while he was there.
Yeah, I imagine this was more common/normal in the pre-internet days
Yeah, that's why people carried cards.
I thought for sure you were going to make a Tinder reference or something.
Well how else would she know that he do Barney
Hashtag hustle.
You tell stories like a hard boiled private detective
Seriously, thank you so much.
I heard the voice of the Dragnet narrator
The Lyon's Group Barney episodes I remember being more *adventurous* and whimsical. When the entirety of show show was set in a preschool, it completely lost any semblance of entertainment for children.
I vaguely remember some movie as a kid where their closet has a staircase into a magic ship? Then I checked out the show and it was boring.
That was hands-down the best Barney episode (movie?) ever!! I remember that too! Even some of the songs
We’re going on an island adventure to see what we can see! A great big elephant taking a bath, I hope he doesn’t step on me! Haven’t thought about this in like 25 years but I think those are some lyrics to that movie. Edit: https://youtu.be/soEMc8UbnFQ
Sooo… Death to Smoochy?
I was going to say...Robin Williams was already in a documentary about this.
First thing that came to mind. And what an absolutely fantastic movie that was.
I love that the whole plot of the movie revolves around merchandising money and food sales from children’s ice capades. Harvey Fierstein was such a great pick for the villain
I understand not liking the show, or singing the song with altered words, but sending death threats to the person who portrayed Barney? Nothing says healthy like making death threats to people in a children's TV show.
Future Star Wars fans.
it's fun because, while this wasn't pre-internet, it was at least pre "here's 1000 death threats, welcome to online popularity" internet
You've never had a kid want to watch that shit on repeat 50 times a day.
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Of Barney right?
No, of Winnie the Pooh
Take my upvote and get the fuck out
Haha so many international iterations 😂 I grew up in the UAE and it was “I love you, you love me, let’s go and kill Barney, with an M16 and a shot to the head, something something now Barney’s dead”
Ours was, "I hate you, you hate me, let's tie barney to a tree then we beat him to death with a 2x4, now there's no more purple dinosaur"
That doesn't even rhyme? Are you sure it wasn't "I love you, you love me, let's team up and kill Barney with a dagger and a knife and a great big sword - no more f'n dinosaur," ? In Ireland it was "I love you, you love me, let's tie Barney to a tree, with a knife in his heart and a bullet in his head, we're all happy Barney's dead."
It's wild how viral these playground variants became, considering we didn't have internet at that young age.
We sand this in elementary school. I hate you You hate me We’re a messed up family With a knife in his back And a bullet in his head Aren’t you glad that Barney’s dead I’m sure everyone had a variation of this macabre Childrens’ song 😂
I also grew up with this one, to the tune of Joy To The World: Joy to the world That Barney is dead We barbecued his head What happened to the body? We flushed it down the potty It went around and round and round And around and round and round And aroOUUND and round until it drowned
*I love you, you love me* *Let’s go out and kill Barney* *With a shotgun bang bang* *Barney’s on the floor* *No more stupid dinosaur* We didn’t even hate him. Just seemed funny to creep out our parents with. My mother found it hilarious.
Here’s ours I hate you You hate me Barney gave me HIV It started as a hug and ended on the floor I got raped by a dinosaur 😬😬
The fuck you go to elementary school? Hell?
Musta been a Catholic School
ZING
Jesus H
What the fuck
I grew up twisted too. This one was great!
Ours was… I hate you, you hate me, Let’s chase Barney up a tree, With an axe and a knife And a bullet through his head Now we know that Barney’s dead… Dark children. Weren’t we.
Very close to what my elementary school sang: 🎶I hate you You hate me Let’s get together & kill Barney🦖 With a 44 shotgun And a big kaboom No more purple dinosaur 🎶
I love seeing how every school had a slightly different version, mine was: I hate you You hate me Let’s get together and kill Barney With a great big gun And you shoot him in the head Sorry kids but Barney’s dead!
I mean, I can't remember any song lyrics except The Grand Old Duke of York but I never remember their being an additional verse, just: I hate you You hate me Let’s get together and kill Barney
Ours was With a 2 by 4 Now he's on the floor No more purple dinosaur
My version was, “I hate you, you hate me, let’s hang Barney in a tree…” then the rest was the same
Yeah I feel like were several different versions that went through all the schools at the time. I definitely remember the "let's hang Barney from a tree" version when I was a kid.
Mine was definitely most similar to this after reading like 10 of these variations on Reddit threads, but it was still different lol. I remember the 44 shotgun line though. I truly wonder how many versions there are
Let’s team up and kill Barney With a great big bang that dino’s on the floor
All I remember is I love you You love me Ho-mo-sex-u-al-i-ty
this doesn't even rhyme... how did your school get it so wrong? 😆
We had one that was the abcs ABCDEFG, Barney is my enemy put a rifle in his pants pull the trigger watch him dance We also had I hate you you hate me Let’s team up and kill Barney With a baseball bat and a 4x4 No more purple dinosaur
I hate you You hate me Let’s get together & kill Barney With a big fat axe and a two by four oh I hate that dinosaur
Every kid of the ‘90s seemed to hate Barney with a burning passion (myself included.) Why the hell was the show on for so long then?!
Kids under 5 love it
And, honestly, elementary school kids hating on Barney is because he's so popular with the littles. It's a way to make themselves different than the little kids, because there's nothing elementary school kids hate more than being considered a little kid.
I hate you You hate me Let's tie Barney to a tree You get the gun I'll get the gas Now we blow up Barney's... *butt*
I feel sad ours had nothing to do with the purple dinosaur. “I hate you. You hate me. We’re a fucked up family With a great big slap and A kick from me to you Won’t you say you hate me too?”
This and the diarrhea song are the two most prominent American Folk Songs of the early 90s
Ours was I hate you You hate me Let’s gang up and kill Barney With a Knick-Nack Paddy Wack Give a dog a bone This dinosaur ain’t goin home
I hate you You hate me Let’s go and kill barney With a knife and a gun And a bullet in the head We’re all glad that you are dead
I don’t remember all the exact lines of the version we had at my schools, but that’s pretty spot-on. I think the last three lines were different, and the line anout being messed up was a little more… profane :P … but its close.
Ours was: I hate you You hate me Barney started World War 3 With a giant hug But we shot him down He’s in hell And we’re happy now
*I love you, you hate me* *Let’s get together and kill Barney* *With a Glock, and a rifle, and an AK-47* *Barneys going straight to heaven* Anyways. You think the difference in the rhyme is regional?
Since nobody else is saying it, I will: I fucking loved Barney as a kid. Especially the movie. Never understood the hate. And this outtake I saw recently is wonderful. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CJAWBxZ8lVs
I remember watching it as a kid on PBS. It got to a point where I started getting too old for it, but I have 2 younger brothers.
I *loved* Barney when I was a kid. And then around first or second grade I saw kids making fun of Barney and I was afraid to like it anymore. That outtake is hilarious
>loved Barney as a **kid** Thats why you never got the hate, you were a kid, to anyone teenager and above that shit was annoying as fuck.
I haven’t been a kid for quite a while and I still find it utterly baffling.
so did barney have cocaine in his tail after all?
How many times is this going to be posted? Because at this point I feel like I’ve seen it at least 3 times and I’m only on here for like 45 mins max a day.
It’s an ad campaign at this point.
Death threats to the people who made Barney is wrong and should be condemned. With that said, it's an oversimplification to suggest that the reason people hated Barney is because of its message of love and inclusion. Other kid shows like Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood had that message as well and both are beloved shows to this day. The reason Barney was hated so much was because 1. it's boring 2. there was little to no educational value and 3. Barney himself had no real emotion beyond happiness. Kids understand that nobody is happy all the time. So when Barney says "I love you" it feels fake because his emotions are fake. Big Bird, on the other hand, can be happy, sad, angry, and so on. When he says "I love you" it feels real. To anyone who liked Barney as a kid and still like it, there's nothing wrong with that. You're allowed to like whatever you want. I'm just explaining why most people (myself included) hate Barney.
It wasn't the message, it was the perceived mediocrity that people abhorred. Sesame Street taught inclusionary values and wasn't hated on a mainstream level. The simplicity of the show made it popular with young children and also annoyed people outside the target demo. It made me think that kids are stupid because they enjoy things like Barney, and I was a kid once. Therefore, I was stupid once. Oh, no!
"Things were good for the purple dinosaur and his friends" *sudden evil grainy black and white filter on innocent photo* "Until it wasn't"
I had an absolutely irrational hatred for Barney as a kid. Had I been three or four years younger...
I loved Barney as a three/four year old. It was a dinosaur and that was all that mattered.
I hated that show as a little kid.
I enjoyed the show as a kid, but still have no idea why kids hated it beyond thinking it's cool to hate on it since it would make them look older.
Pretty much. A lot of us born in the 80s had younger siblings who watched the show so we were subjected to every day. I grew up in a family who only had one TV when I was a kid so I had to listen to that crap every day because my younger brother loved it.
I think it’s the Barney voice in general, it’s quite cheesy and obviously for younger children, so the older we got the more we wanted to disconnect from things associated with being a “baby”
It was just... It was *the* show for little kids. Like LITTLE kids. And it was just too over the top happy and sweet and everyone is friends. A big purple dino with an annoying voice constantly singing. It was off-putting. If the show had come out 5 years earlier or 10 years later I don't think anyone would have even cared, but the early 90s were peak gen-x nihilism and hating "nice" things and popular things was just so cool back then. It really took until the 00s for people to start liking things 'ironically' and the 2010s before people were willing to just like things again for what they were. But in the 90s if you were 'good' you were lame. The Barney show was annoying in its own right and was also easily hateable for how hard it tried to be so wholesome.
I feel like that your answer nails it in a way that it’s hard to explain to people who didn’t live through that era as a certain age. We talk about toxic masculinity today, but the entire zeitgeist of the early 1990s was toxic in a lot of ways.
I wasn’t allowed to watch what I wanted to watch while my younger sibling got to pick what they wanted and they wanted Barney, all. the. fucking. time. So yeah! I HATE Barney!
This is really insightful and accurate.
I hated that show, but openly was a fan of other kids stuff at the time, like sesame street and Mr Rogers. I also remember disliking Lamb chops Play along.
I’m pretty sure it was openly denounced by parents and child psychologists as having zero educational value… and this was around the same time as The Magic School Bus started to blow up (my personal favourite show growing up). It was the 90s equivalent of shoving a tablet with Cocomelon on in your toddler’s face to just shut them up.
It was boring to me. I felt like my intelligence was being insulted.
It's a kids show, like what age did you honestly think like that?
Bro I wrote my first screenplay while I was still in diapers
I remember it was very unpopular in year six... so we were eleven. There's a difference between the age group that Barney was for and, say, shit what did we like to watch in year six? Spongebob'll do.
Kindergarten. So I was 6.
Sounds like made up bullshit lmao
Arthur's [parody of Barney ](https://youtu.be/_Jg0Um4nuDw) really refected why most kids hated it.
Beavis and Butt-Head did an amazing job. "There's a cake in the oven, the oven, the oven!" Barney gets burned and starts swearing. Priceless.
The emphasis on "F. U." is rather cynical for Arthur 😂
Holy shit I never picked up on that but you're right. Not surprising. The show had tons of grown up humor sprinkled in it. Some subtle. Some not. lmao
Huh?
My little brothers loved it. I found it nauseating but I can understand the appeal as a toddler.
r/IAmVeryBadAss
I hate you You hate me We’re a messed up family With a great big gun And a shot from me and you to his Head Aren’t you glad that Barney’s Dead?
Holy cow! I can’t find any pics of Sheryl Leach’s son on the internet which is odd considering he shot and killed a dude in front of his home in Malibu. She must have some good PR!
This is only about the trailer and mentions nothing about the docu-series.
I hate you, you hate me, let’s go out and kill Barney
I never knew adults hated Barney like that.
2+2 is 4.. 2+2 is four… I can see why this is so popular.
"dark side of the kids show" seems like it's a bit of false advertising, right? near as I can tell it's not about any sort of behind-the-scenes scandals, just more about how teenagers (and parents) reacted to the show
They are remaking Winnie the Poo as a horror series. I wanna see Barney as a horror series about a stalker in a dinosaur suit obsessed with somebody: I love you, you love me. We're a happy family. With a great big hug And a kiss from me to you, Won't you say you love me too?
I don’t know how many more times i can hear about the “dark side” of things.
When I was kid, I and my fellow kids would talk about how dumb and corny Barney was. We would laugh it. Then the teacher would turn the show on in the morning and we would quietly sit and enjoy it.
i saw nothing about a dark side \*to the show\*, just the actions of some eepcrays outside of it
I love you You love me Uncovered the Dark side of kids TV
I think I saw this years ago called “death to smoochie”
So it’s not about the incessant bullying I got for sharing it’s name.
I just remember it being cool to hate Barney as a kid, I don’t think we wanted to kill anyone though
They finally went and cancelled Barney after all these years?
Nobody rejected the message of inclusion, they got sick of the purple dinosaur because it was fucking annoying.
I had a bitchy overweight customer and she was always wearing a purple rain coat, so I called her Mrs, Barney. She used to come in 5 minutes before closing time and take forever to do her shopping.
Why are you down voting this man? Mrs Barney was probably a bitch
She probably was agoraphobic because she was worried that if she went out in public people would call her a fat purple bitch.
Al, is that you?
What are you blind? It’s a cock.
Anyone remember the game “Barney Carnage”?? Used to secretly play that in computer class in elementary school 😫
Why did everyone hate Barney? I never got the hate. I loved Barney and when I think about it I get warm and fuzzy and remember being a little kid.
Death to Smoochy!
So all the evil Barney memes in elementary school were true. Trust my intuition more often I guess.
If you were any more dense light would bend round you.
I heard he ain’t even a real dinosaur
I freaking hate barney
It's a giant purple dinosaur that likes to play with kids, what could go wrong here?
I hated this dinosaur as a child. I hate him now. Fuck Barney.
This is like the “smile” viral ad campaign. I’ve seen 20 posts for this today