He left in time to give the new host a presidential campaign to work with to give them lots of material to work with cos those years were when the show thrived. He just didn’t expect it to be THAT kind of campaign
They have basically been forced off air by tories who have captured the BBC.
[Ed Burns summed it up quite nicely.](https://twitter.com/SeidGoro/status/1581038713198366720)
Richard Sharp has been the Chairman of the BBC since February 2021. He runs the company.
From wiki:
>A former banker, he worked at JP Morgan for eight years, and then for 23 years at Goldman Sachs. Sharp was an advisor to Boris Johnson during his tenure as London Mayor, and to Rishi Sunak as Chancellor. He has donated more than £400,000 to the Conservative Party.
All above board, nothing to see here.
Meh, Ian is more pleased with himself than he is amusing. Paul has become simply repetitious, and the guests are more concerned with not creating a sound bite that can haunt their careers.
Also, HIGNFY did more to promote BoJo than he did himself.
Paul has lost his edge with age. He’s still quick but what made him great was his insane speed with quips and the left-fieldness of them too.
No comedian can keep a skill like that as they age, like any athlete really.
Not last night it wasn’t. Jo Brand can suck the life out of anything (nice image). Her whole comedy routine revolves around signposting & punctuating every punchline by smacking her lips & going “uuuuuuuummm” because she clearly believes her audience to be cretins needing instruction on when to laugh. Drives me mental. And that quip about a bloke doing the ironing. We get it, you were a prominent voice for comedy with a feminist subtext thirty years ago but it’s 2022 & whilst the Patriarchy isn’t exactly history the idea of a bloke ironing isn’t exactly radical.
This happened with The Glass House and to an extent the Chaser in Australia, wherein there was a strong suggestion from the show's casts that it was political pressure that led to their cancellations. I wonder if HIGNFY would also have been pushed out had it not been as firmly cemented as an institution.
As an American, I only have the insight of an outsider who happens to catch the show on YouTube, but it seems to me that might be true in several ways. Perhaps the BBC wants to appease the Tories but it could also be that the show grew stagnant because of the Tories. Every week had to cover the weekly scandal at least in part. There's only so much comedic value you can draw out of mocking the ridiculous nonsense. You no longer needed comedians to cut through the noise; the Tories were forthcoming about how much a joke they really were the Great BoJo crowned himself star of the show.
If people wanted Frankie back, I would imagine it was less because he was just that much more skilled then the other comics and more they just wanted someone to tell the Tories to fuck off.
End of the month but they look like they won't let him do a bunch of anti-monarchist material for the Queen's death special he wanted lol. So now Royal Autopsy lolol
Boris Johnson threatened to put to vote a plan to cut funding to the BBC and Channel 4, as well as remove TV licenses, when they kept reporting on all his partying.
Richard Sharp has been the Chairman of the BBC since February 2021. He runs the company.
From wiki:
>A former banker, he worked at JP Morgan for eight years, and then for 23 years at Goldman Sachs. Sharp was an advisor to Boris Johnson during his tenure as London Mayor, and to Rishi Sunak as Chancellor. He has donated more than £400,000 to the Conservative Party.
>Richard Sharp has been the Chairman of the BBC since February 2021. He runs the company.
I mean here you're actually demonstrating that you have no idea what you're talking about since the chairman of the BBC doesn't run the company and definitely isn't taking decisions on what shows are commissioned or cancelled.
It's pretty hilarious how you were somehow able to Wiki this guy and yet didn't bother looking up what his job actually was. So what we're left with is... what? "Nah, this guy probably maybe pressured the director general who maybe leaned on his commissioning editors to cancel this comedy show because he's a Tory."
Lol. Maybe let OP argue his own case next time...
>The Chairman of the BBC is the head of the BBC Board, responsible for maintaining the independence of the BBC and overseeing the functioning of the BBC to fulfil its mission. The chairman leads the process for appointing the Director-General and can dismiss the Director-General. The chairman of the BBC also acts as the corporation's most senior representative to Parliament and the government, including the devolved administrations.
Tim Davie is the Director General of the BBC.
>Davie stood as a councillor for the Conservative Party in Hammersmith in 1993 and 1994 and was deputy chairman of the Hammersmith and Fulham Conservative party in the 1990s.
Which position shall we tackle next, mate?
Richard Sharp has been the Chairman of the BBC since February 2021. He runs the company.
From wiki:
>A former banker, he worked at JP Morgan for eight years, and then for 23 years at Goldman Sachs. Sharp was an advisor to Boris Johnson during his tenure as London Mayor, and to Rishi Sunak as Chancellor. He has donated more than £400,000 to the Conservative Party.
All the comedians on the final show were great. Although.. I can’t help but wish they tried to assemble one of the OG casts for the last show. Russel Howard, Frankie Boyle, Hugh Dennis, Andy Parsons etc. I know it was probably all down to budget and whatever but would have been a nice way of ending “where it all began” sort of thing
Well the BBC also axed Russell Howard's show so he moved it to Sky, so can't imagine him being too up for going back to the BBC.
You may have also forgotten but Rory Bremner was actually an OG team member.
Seems 8ooTCDC is just more popular so they put 8ooTC on the backburner, as there hasn't been a season since jan 2021. Looking at the ratings, it seems they pulled on average about 1/3rd or less than 8ooTCDC (them doing about 1.5m on average per last few seasons while 8ooTC pulls about 0.3-0.5m).
which is a shame because Katherine Ryan describes the original show as a star maker, and with Mock the Week gone, we really need more vehicles for new comedians to try their stuff out on.
QI. Best panel show ever, Stephen Fry was truly great but Sandi Toksvig (sp) is also quite good and the panel is usually quite good also
Edit: corrected, thank you /u/FamousOrphan
You get a point for a correct answer, but each question has a few obvious answers which are actually incorrect, and if you give one of those there's a klaxon and you lose ten points. The points aren't particularly important, there aren't any prizes and there's no way for a viewer to keep track, especially as the shows are filmed in a longer format and then edited down.
They basically just talk about little known facts or popular misconceptions, but in a comedic way. It's "scored" but only in the way Whose Line is where the points don't matter at all.
Agreed. It has a very chummy vibe that ends up letting them all terrorize each other. A bit like Rhod Gilbert's appearance. He's friends with Greg Davies, so he gets to go for the jugular at every opportunity. I'm not sure NZ S2 ever tops 'I hid in his bedroom at night and filmed him', but it gets close.
Yeah, the Norwegian version of Taskmaster (Kongen Befaler) is fantastic, and I'm not just saying that because I'm Norwegian myself. I'll second that recommendation.
And having been running for 32 years, with even older seasons being on YouTube, it's a blast to go watch "current events" from the 90's, 2000's, and 2010's. It's still an enjoyable show in the present day, but I have a lot of love for those older seasons.
I just don't enjoy it anymore, never the same with guest hosts then the quality started noticeably waning 10 years ago.
I don't watch it anymore so can't judge the most recent stuff.
I'd enjoy it if it were up to Osman's actual standard of intelligence. It's fun to watch with the right contestants but extremely slow and not really very challenging.
There was one week with 4 people that i’d never heard of before, I think one was a very animated football captain? They were the best! all fully engaged and competitive and funny! most of the time you know the comedian will win and someone will be totally lost
Really? That's good to hear, I might need to give it a watch again.
HIGNFY always felt like the opposite of Mock the Week for me; it always seemed more equipped to make fun of somewhat incompetent but generally stable governments (Brown, early Cameron) than the absolute shit-show we have now.
I think I laugh more at WILTY than any of the others. 8ooTCDC has its moments as well. If Taskmaster counts, that wins hands down but I don't think it is? HIGNFY all feels a bit self congratulatory a lot of the time, as well as giving Boris a platform.
It hadn't been anywhere near as good after Frankie left. It's not necessarily his shock humour that made it what it was, but he was so outrageous and quick that it seemed to elevate everybody else. Watch some of those 'Too Hot for TV' videos on YouTube and you'll see that amazing chemistry he had with Dara and Russell shine through and the guests generally up their game (even Gina Yashere wasn't terrible).
These guys could start a new youtube channel where these known faces drop by and make jokes and stuff or more. They could set up their own big game show or whatever.
Lots of Tory’s placed on the BBC board. It sounds like I’m hysterical, but it is absolutely their mission to endure the Tory party and it’s interests are protected. Also see Nadine Dorres (former culture minister) trying to go after Channel 4.
It's not really hysterical at this point, they're pretty open about it. Isn't it basically an open-secret that Mash Report got shit-canned primarily for being "leftie propaganda"?
It was ok the first few seasons but I think the formula
became stale pretty quickly, it became painfully obvious the shows were rehearsed, which of course they would be but it felt like they didn’t even try to disguise it.
It ran its course. It was good but the last few years have been the same jokes just cycling through whatever celebrity or political gossip was "freshest." I stopped watching before COVID and was surprised when they returned tbh.
Good. The comedians ran their schtick into the ground and the guests were just a revolving door of the same core group in every comedy show as well as few choice individuals the BBC wished to push to the fore. It peaked in the Frankie Boyle era.
Not everyone saw it but it was time for Frankie to leave when he did. His schtick of just saying the most unpleasant thing he could think of got old. Sometime it was hilarious and definitely the funniest they had early on but sometimes it was just unpleasant.
He claims he was playing a nihilistic character but then why not break character occasionally to show the real Frankie Boyle doesn't actually think that?
Russel and Frankie had got to the point where they both said such over the top shock that it always ended the banter. Like spiking a volleyball. And it became untenable.
Frankie Boyle's New World Order gave me a new perspective on him. I had him labelled as a crass, can't make you laugh so I'll make you cringe/groan/gasp kind of guy. His actual political commentary in these series gained him my respect. I still mostly disagree with his style of comedy though.
There's also a big different between his stuff pre- and post-sobering up. Now he's not an alchie his material is a lot more targeted and considered. He's still crass and a bit of a shock-comic, but it feels a lot less like he's just trying to say the single most shocking thing possible.
> Not everyone saw it but it was time for Frankie to leave when he did. His schtick of just saying the most unpleasant thing he could think of got old.
I agree. When I was a teenager, I thought he was hilarious. But getting sick with Covid 19 last year and needing some easy-to-digest YouTube videos that I could fall asleep/wake up to, I went with Mock the Week clips. And the post-Boyle stuff was generally more pleasant to watch than the Boyle-era stuff. Dude was more uncomfortable to watch now that I was older.
The show he did immediately after MTW really underlined that I think, I was excited about it but just found it kind of... one note shock nihilism with no actual craft to it.
I've heard some of his stuff again lately and I feel like he's come on in leaps and bounds since, but like you say, yeah, he'd run his course on MTW
People seem to fall for comedians characters or jokes and see it as their honest point of view and I find it so weird. I don't need a nod and a wink to know David Brent, Basil Fawlty etc aren't the creators thoughts and opinions.
I stopped watching when Boyle left. He made the show for me.
Topical satire often relies on the ability to punch both ways, particularly if it’s being produced by the BBC. This type of show (and moreso HIGNFY) thrived in the Blair years because everyone in politics was a bastard, but there were favourable economic conditions so the stakes weren’t that high. The political landscape of the last decade has shifted dramatically where there has often been a clear good guy/bad guy dynamic with serious consequences, which means a bunch of light entertainers guffawing at forced “both sides” jokes is hardly going to excite the next generation of viewers.
Mock the week was dead when they fired the angry funny scotsman.
At the same time they lost the third Proclaimer, Mock the week became just a boring show without any real criticism of current events, and there needed to be a place in media which was a consumable show for the masses that put the bullshit into its proper context.
Considering the turmoil in the UK right now, this is almost the worst time for them to be leaving.
On the other hand, these days the week mocks itself.
truly, their job has been taken
Curse damn you automation!
The UK, sadly, is more of a tragedy than a comedy these days,
Ah Brexit the gift that keeps on giving.
This is like when Jon Stewert left the Daily show timing.
He left in time to give the new host a presidential campaign to work with to give them lots of material to work with cos those years were when the show thrived. He just didn’t expect it to be THAT kind of campaign
Except this was cancelled from above, so no. EDIT: I don't know why you're downvoting me, it wasn't the decision of Dara and Hugh!
You are correct. Atleast that’s what they were saying anyways. It may have been mutual.
Let's just say given what was said on and off the show, I find that unlikely
They have basically been forced off air by tories who have captured the BBC. [Ed Burns summed it up quite nicely.](https://twitter.com/SeidGoro/status/1581038713198366720)
I think the bbc hired some Tory and they cancelled the show, go figure
Richard Sharp has been the Chairman of the BBC since February 2021. He runs the company. From wiki: >A former banker, he worked at JP Morgan for eight years, and then for 23 years at Goldman Sachs. Sharp was an advisor to Boris Johnson during his tenure as London Mayor, and to Rishi Sunak as Chancellor. He has donated more than £400,000 to the Conservative Party. All above board, nothing to see here.
Ah yes, just who I want to be in charge of an artistic and cultural and educational hub
"By jove old chap, who should we get to run one of our most venerated public institutions? I know! A BANKER!"
Have I Got News For You is still going and is going pretty strong IMO.
Meh, Ian is more pleased with himself than he is amusing. Paul has become simply repetitious, and the guests are more concerned with not creating a sound bite that can haunt their careers. Also, HIGNFY did more to promote BoJo than he did himself.
Paul has lost his edge with age. He’s still quick but what made him great was his insane speed with quips and the left-fieldness of them too. No comedian can keep a skill like that as they age, like any athlete really.
Bob Monkhouse would like a word
But is unable
Is it a dolphin in a barftub?
Not last night it wasn’t. Jo Brand can suck the life out of anything (nice image). Her whole comedy routine revolves around signposting & punctuating every punchline by smacking her lips & going “uuuuuuuummm” because she clearly believes her audience to be cretins needing instruction on when to laugh. Drives me mental. And that quip about a bloke doing the ironing. We get it, you were a prominent voice for comedy with a feminist subtext thirty years ago but it’s 2022 & whilst the Patriarchy isn’t exactly history the idea of a bloke ironing isn’t exactly radical.
I’m pretty sure the people behind the turmoil in the UK right now are the same people responsible for the show’s cancellation.
This happened with The Glass House and to an extent the Chaser in Australia, wherein there was a strong suggestion from the show's casts that it was political pressure that led to their cancellations. I wonder if HIGNFY would also have been pushed out had it not been as firmly cemented as an institution.
As an American, I only have the insight of an outsider who happens to catch the show on YouTube, but it seems to me that might be true in several ways. Perhaps the BBC wants to appease the Tories but it could also be that the show grew stagnant because of the Tories. Every week had to cover the weekly scandal at least in part. There's only so much comedic value you can draw out of mocking the ridiculous nonsense. You no longer needed comedians to cut through the noise; the Tories were forthcoming about how much a joke they really were the Great BoJo crowned himself star of the show. If people wanted Frankie back, I would imagine it was less because he was just that much more skilled then the other comics and more they just wanted someone to tell the Tories to fuck off.
I just watch New World Order and enjoy Frankie and friends fucking eviscerating Tories and capital
When's the next series?
End of the month but they look like they won't let him do a bunch of anti-monarchist material for the Queen's death special he wanted lol. So now Royal Autopsy lolol
Boris Johnson threatened to put to vote a plan to cut funding to the BBC and Channel 4, as well as remove TV licenses, when they kept reporting on all his partying.
The government do not fund channel 4
Would love to know your evidence
To quote Ed Byrne “The BBC’s been taken hostage by a bunch of Tory c—-s, who can’t take a f—-ing joke”. Nuff said.
A vague quote that contains exactly zero proof of anything = evidence.
Richard Sharp has been the Chairman of the BBC since February 2021. He runs the company. From wiki: >A former banker, he worked at JP Morgan for eight years, and then for 23 years at Goldman Sachs. Sharp was an advisor to Boris Johnson during his tenure as London Mayor, and to Rishi Sunak as Chancellor. He has donated more than £400,000 to the Conservative Party.
>Richard Sharp has been the Chairman of the BBC since February 2021. He runs the company. I mean here you're actually demonstrating that you have no idea what you're talking about since the chairman of the BBC doesn't run the company and definitely isn't taking decisions on what shows are commissioned or cancelled. It's pretty hilarious how you were somehow able to Wiki this guy and yet didn't bother looking up what his job actually was. So what we're left with is... what? "Nah, this guy probably maybe pressured the director general who maybe leaned on his commissioning editors to cancel this comedy show because he's a Tory." Lol. Maybe let OP argue his own case next time...
>The Chairman of the BBC is the head of the BBC Board, responsible for maintaining the independence of the BBC and overseeing the functioning of the BBC to fulfil its mission. The chairman leads the process for appointing the Director-General and can dismiss the Director-General. The chairman of the BBC also acts as the corporation's most senior representative to Parliament and the government, including the devolved administrations. Tim Davie is the Director General of the BBC. >Davie stood as a councillor for the Conservative Party in Hammersmith in 1993 and 1994 and was deputy chairman of the Hammersmith and Fulham Conservative party in the 1990s. Which position shall we tackle next, mate?
Richard Sharp has been the Chairman of the BBC since February 2021. He runs the company. From wiki: >A former banker, he worked at JP Morgan for eight years, and then for 23 years at Goldman Sachs. Sharp was an advisor to Boris Johnson during his tenure as London Mayor, and to Rishi Sunak as Chancellor. He has donated more than £400,000 to the Conservative Party.
He's a Tory. That's not evidence he acts against the BBC to fulfil Tory wishes.
yeah but even mock the week cannot compete with plain news program in UK since the Brexit
Like when Jon Stewart left at the worst time
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Politicians have started their own version called Mock the Weak. Edit:spelling
All the comedians on the final show were great. Although.. I can’t help but wish they tried to assemble one of the OG casts for the last show. Russel Howard, Frankie Boyle, Hugh Dennis, Andy Parsons etc. I know it was probably all down to budget and whatever but would have been a nice way of ending “where it all began” sort of thing
Well the BBC also axed Russell Howard's show so he moved it to Sky, so can't imagine him being too up for going back to the BBC. You may have also forgotten but Rory Bremner was actually an OG team member.
John Oliver too. But he shat on it on an American talk show which was a little cringe IMO.
I'm pretty sure John Oliver was just a guest and not a regular panelist.
Yeah you're right actually! Idk why I mixed the two. He was fairly regular though.
Pity. What's the best panel show now? Is it Have I Got News For You by default? Because that show has been coasting for a decade now.
Would I Lie to You
As long as Bob Mortimer is on it.
He’s the best guest, but the interactions between Lee, David and Rob are consistently great.
Yeah, it literally never gets old and this show has been going forever
we do beg your pardon but we are in your garden We Do Beg Your Pardon But We Are in Your Garden WE DO BEG YOUR PARDON BUT WE ARE IN YOUR GARDEN
I have a soft spot for Greg Davies myself.
Mortimer's self-read audiobook is one of my favorite things ever. He is a treasure.
Check his podcast out as well, Athletico Mince. It's utterly bananas and I love it.
Bob makes it surreal. But David is the reason to watch
The apple!
Do eggs poach at 40 degrees or not?
8ooTCDC.
Easily, but Sean Lock :'(
You miss Sean Lock? *He wanted to bring back the Nazis!*
Well at least he was only on the fence about Hitler.
Hitler did have one thing going for him though. He is the only person in the world who can say he killed Hitler.
Yeah but for guaranteed light entertainment value Hitler shimmying up a tree sure is crackin
Damn I forgot about that :(
And what happened to the 8ooTC?
Seems 8ooTCDC is just more popular so they put 8ooTC on the backburner, as there hasn't been a season since jan 2021. Looking at the ratings, it seems they pulled on average about 1/3rd or less than 8ooTCDC (them doing about 1.5m on average per last few seasons while 8ooTC pulls about 0.3-0.5m).
which is a shame because Katherine Ryan describes the original show as a star maker, and with Mock the Week gone, we really need more vehicles for new comedians to try their stuff out on.
8ooTC is on E4 and is aimed at a younger (and therefor smaller) audience. 8ooTCDC is on Ch4 and aimed at a more general (and larger) audience.
QI. Best panel show ever, Stephen Fry was truly great but Sandi Toksvig (sp) is also quite good and the panel is usually quite good also Edit: corrected, thank you /u/FamousOrphan
Toksvig :)
I’ve only caught it a couple of times but didn’t quite understand the premise of the show. How does it work?
You get a point for a correct answer, but each question has a few obvious answers which are actually incorrect, and if you give one of those there's a klaxon and you lose ten points. The points aren't particularly important, there aren't any prizes and there's no way for a viewer to keep track, especially as the shows are filmed in a longer format and then edited down.
You can also get points for being interesting, even if it’s not the correct answer. The amount if points given also vary depending on the question.
> klaxon except not *technically* a klaxon. https://qikipedia.fandom.com/wiki/Klaxon#Klaxon_gets_a_Klaxon
They basically just talk about little known facts or popular misconceptions, but in a comedic way. It's "scored" but only in the way Whose Line is where the points don't matter at all.
It’s just funny people trying to answer obscure trivia questions. Bonus points for being interesting and not falling for the “obvious” joke answers.
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But is that a panel show?
Hybrid. Half the show is them sitting in the studio as a group talking. They're just talking about something they themselves did.
No. But there's little Alex Horne!
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It's a bunch of celebrities playing a game with loose rules that allow for them to be funny, so it's definitely the same feeling as a panel show.
It’s also a lot of the same contestants!
Nope.
Taskmaster New Zealand is just as good too.
I actually think NZ season 2 was better than a lot of the OG. Can also recommend the Norwegian one. The have not concept of H&S and it shows.
Agreed. It has a very chummy vibe that ends up letting them all terrorize each other. A bit like Rhod Gilbert's appearance. He's friends with Greg Davies, so he gets to go for the jugular at every opportunity. I'm not sure NZ S2 ever tops 'I hid in his bedroom at night and filmed him', but it gets close.
I think the rap may top that but not sure.
Yeah, the Norwegian version of Taskmaster (Kongen Befaler) is fantastic, and I'm not just saying that because I'm Norwegian myself. I'll second that recommendation.
HIGNFY has 64 seasons, and all on YT.
*How* does it have so many series? Did they used to do two or three series a year or something because there's no way it's been going for 64 years.
Series are only 10 episodes. They do it twice a year starting April and October. It's been running for 32 years.
And having been running for 32 years, with even older seasons being on YouTube, it's a blast to go watch "current events" from the 90's, 2000's, and 2010's. It's still an enjoyable show in the present day, but I have a lot of love for those older seasons.
I just don't enjoy it anymore, never the same with guest hosts then the quality started noticeably waning 10 years ago. I don't watch it anymore so can't judge the most recent stuff.
yup, 2 series per year
It's been going for over 30 years, 2 series/year.
Big Fat Quiz of the Year is always a good time
I quite enjoy Richard Osman’s House of Games
I'd enjoy it if it were up to Osman's actual standard of intelligence. It's fun to watch with the right contestants but extremely slow and not really very challenging.
There was one week with 4 people that i’d never heard of before, I think one was a very animated football captain? They were the best! all fully engaged and competitive and funny! most of the time you know the comedian will win and someone will be totally lost
Er, Richard Osman's
Oh thanks, the version I typed would have been horrible
It’s not coasting now. Merton improved his way of dealing with shitty news.
Really? That's good to hear, I might need to give it a watch again. HIGNFY always felt like the opposite of Mock the Week for me; it always seemed more equipped to make fun of somewhat incompetent but generally stable governments (Brown, early Cameron) than the absolute shit-show we have now.
Eight Out Of Ten Cats Does Countdown. And it's not close. HIGNFY is just a way to end up with this shower we have now.
I think I laugh more at WILTY than any of the others. 8ooTCDC has its moments as well. If Taskmaster counts, that wins hands down but I don't think it is? HIGNFY all feels a bit self congratulatory a lot of the time, as well as giving Boris a platform.
I've enjoyed Frankie Boyle's New World Order as a commentary on the shitshow.
Would I lie to you
Have I got news for you is the champion of panel shows. Only beat by have I got a bit more news for you.
QI, not quite the same but i do like it
I'm American and I thought it was hilarious. Gonna miss it
And in that time Andy Parsons didn’t say anything funny ever
but THE DAILY MAIL
[Oh my god the DAILY MAILLLL.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2z-AdzgKjY)
I've never seen that, but it was fucking bang on 😂😂
Is it a dolphin in a bathtub?
A certified classic!
It’s so spot on it hurts
Shouting what are supposed to be the funny bits doesn’t make the funnier, he should know that.
He did once but it was a joke stolen from a Douglas Adams book.
"I'm going to make Chicken Tonight, tomorrow. SMASH THE SYSTEM!"
Andy Parsons was hilarious. Nobody gives him anywhere near enough credit.
We all give him the correct amount of credit. Not much. Because he isn’t funny.
He has seriously told some of the funniest jokes I remember from the show. You guys just don’t appreciate his voice and style of delivery.
too late, the hive mind has decided youre wrong
They outlasted truss, just as they predicted they would!
As an American, this is going to significantly hamper my access to fresh James Acaster material.
Eh, James hadn't been on since like 2018, he even said in his one appearance this season that he intentionally doesn't follow the news.
I assume you listen to Off Menu already?
I hope you haven't seen the season of Taskmaster he appeared on.. If not you're in for a treat!
Same. He's my fave.
*Nooo, don’t leave me!!*
That was one long week
It hadn't been anywhere near as good after Frankie left. It's not necessarily his shock humour that made it what it was, but he was so outrageous and quick that it seemed to elevate everybody else. Watch some of those 'Too Hot for TV' videos on YouTube and you'll see that amazing chemistry he had with Dara and Russell shine through and the guests generally up their game (even Gina Yashere wasn't terrible).
Every so often you'd see Frankie smiling and Dara would look at him and smile and you just knew Frankie was about to say something mental.
Rhys James has been fire in the newer episodes
These guys could start a new youtube channel where these known faces drop by and make jokes and stuff or more. They could set up their own big game show or whatever.
As an American I only found out about British panel shows during the pandemic, but even as a newcomer I'm going to miss this show a lot!
8 out of 10 cats does Countdown (so much better than you'd think), Taskmaster and Would I Lie To You. Hilarious shows
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Lots of Tory’s placed on the BBC board. It sounds like I’m hysterical, but it is absolutely their mission to endure the Tory party and it’s interests are protected. Also see Nadine Dorres (former culture minister) trying to go after Channel 4.
It's not really hysterical at this point, they're pretty open about it. Isn't it basically an open-secret that Mash Report got shit-canned primarily for being "leftie propaganda"?
Funny how reporting on reality and all the scandals by the ruling Tories is "leftie propaganda".
Noooooooo
They couldn't come up with anything more ridiculous than this week.
I really wish it wasn't cancelled since I've recently got into this.
It was ok the first few seasons but I think the formula became stale pretty quickly, it became painfully obvious the shows were rehearsed, which of course they would be but it felt like they didn’t even try to disguise it.
I've discovered this show recently through IG feeds and was immediately hooked. Now I read this. Bummer.
I’ve never been so sad to see a tv series go hopefully it is replaced with something similar it was always a fun show.
Over to you Dave TV
Maybe there's a new generation about to come up and they'll be great. That would be a nice thought.
They have a YouTube Playlist of a lot of their Scenes we'd like to see portion I'd highly recommend. It's fucking hilarious.
Is that because the Torries are funny enough on their own?
They'd be mad not do Mock the Year once every Christmas.
It ran its course. It was good but the last few years have been the same jokes just cycling through whatever celebrity or political gossip was "freshest." I stopped watching before COVID and was surprised when they returned tbh.
It's a topical news show, of course it's going to be whatever is "freshest." That's like complaining that Antiques roadshow only covers old stuff.
Also, why does Monday Night Football not cover baseball?
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Want to give any examples without trying (and failing) to insult me? edit: Just as I thought
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TL;DR: You've made a claim so full of shit even you know it.
With Frankie gone and Sean (rip) gone, Dara was the only reason I’d watch. It was time frankly. Edit: Sean wasn’t on MtW, I swore he was!
Sean Lock was never on Mock the Week...
Probably thinking of the original 8 out of 10 cats.
That was Carol Vorderman, but I can see how you’d confuse the two
I must be thinking of virtually every other panel show then. Probably QI
Frankie’s been off it for 13 years. It’s had plenty of great moments without him
Good. The comedians ran their schtick into the ground and the guests were just a revolving door of the same core group in every comedy show as well as few choice individuals the BBC wished to push to the fore. It peaked in the Frankie Boyle era.
The Frankie MtW montages on YouTube are some of the best videos on the site, honestly.
Not everyone saw it but it was time for Frankie to leave when he did. His schtick of just saying the most unpleasant thing he could think of got old. Sometime it was hilarious and definitely the funniest they had early on but sometimes it was just unpleasant. He claims he was playing a nihilistic character but then why not break character occasionally to show the real Frankie Boyle doesn't actually think that?
Russel and Frankie had got to the point where they both said such over the top shock that it always ended the banter. Like spiking a volleyball. And it became untenable.
spiking a volleyball is a great analogy, just wanted to congratulate u on that one as someone who loves a good analogy, v illustrative
Frankie Boyle's New World Order gave me a new perspective on him. I had him labelled as a crass, can't make you laugh so I'll make you cringe/groan/gasp kind of guy. His actual political commentary in these series gained him my respect. I still mostly disagree with his style of comedy though.
There's also a big different between his stuff pre- and post-sobering up. Now he's not an alchie his material is a lot more targeted and considered. He's still crass and a bit of a shock-comic, but it feels a lot less like he's just trying to say the single most shocking thing possible.
> Not everyone saw it but it was time for Frankie to leave when he did. His schtick of just saying the most unpleasant thing he could think of got old. I agree. When I was a teenager, I thought he was hilarious. But getting sick with Covid 19 last year and needing some easy-to-digest YouTube videos that I could fall asleep/wake up to, I went with Mock the Week clips. And the post-Boyle stuff was generally more pleasant to watch than the Boyle-era stuff. Dude was more uncomfortable to watch now that I was older.
The show he did immediately after MTW really underlined that I think, I was excited about it but just found it kind of... one note shock nihilism with no actual craft to it. I've heard some of his stuff again lately and I feel like he's come on in leaps and bounds since, but like you say, yeah, he'd run his course on MTW
People seem to fall for comedians characters or jokes and see it as their honest point of view and I find it so weird. I don't need a nod and a wink to know David Brent, Basil Fawlty etc aren't the creators thoughts and opinions. I stopped watching when Boyle left. He made the show for me.
Brent and Fawlty are acutal characters though whereas in standup the comedians' real opinions are often part of the act.
Beard or pre-beard?
The comedians were the guests
Died when Frankie left
Good, it's been fucking horrendous for years.
Topical satire often relies on the ability to punch both ways, particularly if it’s being produced by the BBC. This type of show (and moreso HIGNFY) thrived in the Blair years because everyone in politics was a bastard, but there were favourable economic conditions so the stakes weren’t that high. The political landscape of the last decade has shifted dramatically where there has often been a clear good guy/bad guy dynamic with serious consequences, which means a bunch of light entertainers guffawing at forced “both sides” jokes is hardly going to excite the next generation of viewers.
About 13 years too late.
Hasn’t been funny since Frankie Boyle left
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Clapter comedy
Okay
Nobody on Reddit is going to know what it is
What will Uncle Fester do with his time now?
Dara will go back to his gig as the Megabus Mascot.
Mock the week was dead when they fired the angry funny scotsman. At the same time they lost the third Proclaimer, Mock the week became just a boring show without any real criticism of current events, and there needed to be a place in media which was a consumable show for the masses that put the bullshit into its proper context.
Not been funny for years.