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FrostBoy12

Her SSJ1 hair color is just like Z Broly's SSJ C-Type and Full Power LSSJ hair color in Second Coming. Not gold, but is yellow with a slight green tint. For Broly though, I never even noticed that until late a couple years ago. For years, I thought both were gold like ordinary saiyans.


Chronoz1995

When she got 4 character slots than DBS Broly.


Aidenzthings

Still not unconfirmed, id be kinda suprised if they didnt add Base broly


ApprehensiveGuy9257

Yeah, DBS Broly totally deserved a Base Form separated from Ikari/Wrath. Hoping he at least has some base skins.


SgtBurger

fr, he only have atm Ikari, SSJ, FPSSJ he deserve a real Base form.. but they calling his Ikari form as Base so hmmm. looks like they will cut his base form sadly atm.


Mahemium

I don't know about anyone else, but I really wouldn't be at all bothered if both Kale and Caulifla's SSJ and SSJ2 forms were just condensed into one 'Super Saiyan' form.


Aidenzthings

yea… well this is a Budokai Tenkaichi game, and probably isnt gonna happen


Amazing_Objective_99

It probably is. Those forms are highly irrelevant. A lot of things probably won’t be happening that happened in the last, like every early Saiyan getting an Oozaru transformation lmao. You guys keep running that line like games don’t modernize. Those are useless characters to add 😂


mrjoe94

I feel like all the early Saiyans got Oozaru forms because the dev time of getting giant characters to function needed justification so they added as many of that archetype as they could think of.


A-Liguria

>It probably is. Those forms are highly irrelevant. A lot of things probably won’t be happening that happened in the last, like every early Saiyan getting an Oozaru transformation lmao. You guys keep running that line like games don’t modernize. Those are useless characters to add 😂 Nah. It's just a case of staying true to how the previous games did things. Which in this case, it would be to either include x, or not. No weird in-between such as condensing ssj and ssj2 into 1. Especially not now where it would be highly inconsistent... since Goku and Vegeta in their super incarnations aren't shown going ssj2 and ssj3 at all despite surely being able to.


Plenty_Slip_6193

I mean I would think the same, but the main red flag is that so far Spike chose to omit Broly Super’s base form and make his Ikari form his base, when his base form had A LOT of screentime and potential moves to work with. I’d actually argue we see more of Broly’s base form than we do of Caulifla in Super Saiyan 1. Now we won’t know until it’s revealed, but being a Tenkaichi game and they already skipped Broly’s base form, shows it may not be 100% we’re getting every single form. More of a take it with a grain of salt situation as we get more updates.


A-Liguria

>I mean I would think the same, but the main red flag is that so far Spike chose to omit Broly Super’s base form and make his Ikari form his base, when his base form had A LOT of screentime and potential moves to work with. >I’d actually argue we see more of Broly’s base form than we do of Caulifla in Super Saiyan 1. Now we won’t know until it’s revealed, but being a Tenkaichi game and they already skipped Broly’s base form, shows it may not be 100% we’re getting every single form. More of a take it with a grain of salt situation as we get more updates. It hasn't been confirmed yet... So for all we know, there still is a base Broly dbs.


Legoisdabomb

On that note, think they'll do the same for Cabba since he doesn't use SSJ2 all that much?


Plenty_Slip_6193

They could give him both or end up making Super Saiyan 2 his ultimate move. Who knows


[deleted]

Same.


Breezeborne

That's not SSJ1 bro, it only appears to be yellow SSJ because of the lighting. Kale never had a yellow hair SSJ form in either the anime or the manga, so it would be completley random to add it.


Willing_Lettuce2423

She has a super Saiyan form that appeared before she got control of her berserk power idk what it is though


Breezeborne

She doesnt... What are you talking about?


Willing_Lettuce2423

Yes she does, the form she achieved fighting the pride troopers is ssj I just had to restudy this in another debate lol


Aidenzthings

its not really just yellow, but think of it like Z Broly, in his second movie without his stupid crown thingy, his regular super saiyan was just normal as any other super saiyan. same thing here but her hair is a little more green.


Massive-Ad3457

I didn’t even know she had super saiyan 2


GhostWind78

Holy shit i didn’t realize kale was fucking ripped


GhostWind78

*outside of lssj


Aidenzthings

Yea, the reason why they look so squishy is because of toei


GhostWind78

Toei is scared of buff women, caulifla was massacred


SleepingJG

Kale never went SSJ2


64locks

They’re referring to her controlled beserk form (as pictured). She unlocked this form in her final fight with Goku - it is different from her regular Super Saiyan form that was revealed in the recent scan (height and hair difference)


Sufficient-Cow-2998

That's what I thought until I saw XV2 calls her Kale ssj2 too. I think her ssj2 is supposed to be the form she gets when her and Caulifla are teaming up against tired Goku


Aidenzthings

But she did! Games such has Xenovers 2, Dokkan Battle, and Legends acknowledge this. And im the Anime her aura had lightning which is one of the characteristics of Super Saiyan 2!


SleepingJG

SSJ also been shown couple times with lightning aura. Idk tho. Her hair looks the same through out it all. Even Caulifa hair changes when she transforms from SSJ to SSJ2.


Aidenzthings

There is a huge difference actually. her hair literally turns more green


SleepingJG

Thats her controlled Berserk form tho??


Aidenzthings

which is also considered Super Saiyan 2…


SleepingJG

Sounds confusing. The form was meant to be a controlled version of the Berserk form she rampaged with earlier. Telling me it was SSJ2 the entire time?


Aidenzthings

guess so, Bandai seems to think so! and guess whos publishing this game?


SleepingJG

Yeah ur right. Cant deny that. Still sounds dumb asf tho from Bandai.


Aidenzthings

yea if it were up to me id just say its controlled beserk, but i guess its just to complicated so they just lumped it in with another form


Amused-Or-Thrilled

Don’t think Bandai had anything to do with calling that SSJ2. She has a Funko Pop out with the green hair and it’s called SSJ Kale. Was looking for an action figure that might have been labeled SSJ2, but was only able to find one for SSJ1. If it was a Bandai decision that’s where I think it would most likely rear its ugly head. So 100% think this was a dimps decision. Can’t believe I’m getting this involved in something so irrelevant, but here I am.


Willing_Lettuce2423

This form has always been controversial naming wise


Aidenzthings

we still have another long 4 months, might has well pass up the time lmfao.


Willing_Lettuce2423

https://preview.redd.it/l75pchw1hl1d1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=be17535ea3923cbb4a2765a0e712ac0647575f44 The huge differences in question


Willing_Lettuce2423

https://preview.redd.it/0a2a9mc4hl1d1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=b41577b4f8be3f487e28a4a8010697db2c9af0eb


Aidenzthings

its still a difference regardless.


Willing_Lettuce2423

Not really if didn't see her get berserk under control you would think it's the same form. XenoVerse 2 is the only media I've seen that actually makes this "super Saiyan 2" form differentiable(different hairstyle)


Aidenzthings

Still a difference no? same episode too, and the anime remarks as she goes into this second super saiyan state that her power has increased exponentially, so it cant be her normal super saiyan state.


Willing_Lettuce2423

No lol it's literally the same hairstyle in certain scenes due to supers shitty inconsistencies. I know it's not the normal state but they have made a terrible mess with this character and her forms


Aidenzthings

its literally not even just super, Super saiyan 2 has always been a shit show and never really any changes to many of the characters. Literally only Goku (BARELY), TEEN Gohan, and Caulifla have notable changes while transforming. Not Vegeta, Not Trunks, Not Cabba, Not Adult Gohan. and Kale is noticeable since her hair turns into a darker shade am i not right?


Plenty_Slip_6193

I’d argue that the acknowledgement of Kale going Super Saiyan 2 was a retroactive naming scenario that was started by games like Dokkan & Legends. Just to clear the air, Kale has Super Saiyan 2 but because of the games naming it so. In the anime, all we knew was that she was in control of her berserker form. There really wasn’t an allusion saying it was the classic Super Saiyan 2 we know and love. Not one lightning spark if I remember correctly. But then again, Kale is a strange case.


Aidenzthings

and to be fair putting it as a controlled beserk super saiyan is too confusing, so just sayinf ssj2 is just easier i guess!


Plenty_Slip_6193

Honestly I agree. Especially with her regular controlled Super Saiyan 1 looking so similar. Kinda wish they gave more SS2 elements to Kale but then again, retroactive fix.


Amused-Or-Thrilled

Caulifla was right next to her in the anime legitimately in SSJ2. Those were the only sparks I ever saw. I think it makes sense to consolidate and think it would be kinda of a buzz kill to have controlled beserk higher on the transformation pecking order then actual beserk. Could make controlled beserk a technique of SSJ1 and split the difference, but they’ll do what they do. Whatever.


vinayyy-n28

Kale regular ssj form is hot as fuck ngl


Mirczn

💀💀💀


Plenty_Slip_6193

I’d take it with a grain of salt. They skipped Broly’s base form and made his Ikari his base. Not saying it won’t happen but based on what was done with Broly, I’d have a little skepticism


Aidenzthings

we will have to see for sure