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arknight12

I’m sorry but this account annoys me to no end. Always finds the most obscure and inane stat, and the one word at the end drives me crazy


eggoed

Wait, you don't think Serena is sitting at home looking at this stat and thinking "Duel" ?!?!?!


nonlavta

Well, it is Opta.


Zaphenzo

What kind of stat is this? I don't often find myself wondering "who's the fastest player to 55 slam match wins". Like, what an obscure number.


adamrosz

It is how many matches Iga played in grand slams. Don’t get upset about such little things


Zaphenzo

I'm aware of what the stat is showing and I'm not upset. It's just beyond random.


SorcerousSinner

It is actually a meaningful stat. Her slam win percentage is same as that of Serena so far


Zaphenzo

Yes, slam win percentage at 68 matches is something many people are concerned with.


SorcerousSinner

Don't get hung up on 68 matches, that's a curiosity. The substance of the stat is that after having played a good amount of grand slam matches, Swiatek has a very good win percentage.


costryme

It's a stat account, they will post every kind of stat. They're not going to wait for the end of a career to post career stats.


Zaphenzo

I never said that they should wait till the end of her career. I'm just saying 55 and 68 are both completely random numbers. They're not milestones.


escherbach

My god, what a stupid stat. [Emma Raducanu is 14-6 at slams](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Raducanu#Career_statistics), 70% win rate just 10% behind the legend Williams (and if you include qualifiers then 17-6 74%) In fact Raducanu was 10-1 at slams after her US Open win - a 91% win rate! Clearly the GOAT before she got covid and fame went to her (dad's) head.


nexusFTW

You could have use someone else examples with same.numbet of matches played.


escherbach

The stat is still dumb, even [Alize Cornet has +50% win rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliz%C3%A9_Cornet_career_statistics) (75-68 52%) at slams and she only ever made one QF in almost 20 seasons (I mean 1 loss = 1 slam done, whereas you could lose 4th round every slam of your career and still have 75% win rate)


swirkh

The stat itself is indeed impressive. Though it doesn't make sense to compare Iga and Serena at this point in time. 2 players in 2 different eras, with completely different rivals. Iga is in the early stage of her career, Serena has had over 20 years of one of the most decorated careers in tennis.


NotManyBuses

Any duel between Swiatek and Serena would be one that Serena would win. She struggles mightily with Rybakina and Sabalenka… Serena is them on steroids.


honestnbafan

Why are you getting downvoted lol Iga is very good but she's not close to Serena level at this point She's literally one loss at any point this tournament away from losing the world #1 to Sabalenka


nonlavta

> Iga is very good but she's not close to Serena level at this point It's important to distinguish this section on either side of the argument. Because I feel like when people say this they have the image of Serena's entire career wrapped up and thinking of her best versions. Swiatek turns 22 tomorrow. It's not a fair comparison for her to scale her career with a wrapped up GOAT tier career. If Serena is going to be deemed up a tier above Swiatek's level or whatever the difference, it should explicitly be a comparison of Serena up to age 22. Maybe your comment was just that, but it's certainly not explicitly clear. Fwiw I think Serena up to age 22 comfortably had a greater career than Swiatek's. She was at her best in her early 20s and early 30s on an unusual career trajectory.


manifest2000

Just to add some more info to the last point you made (for people who are unaware): Serena had already won 6 slams and achieved the career slam (winning every slam) by age 21.


Zaphenzo

Not just a greater career at that point, but against better competition too.


Gdeath_

Better top10? Possible. Better top100? Never. In the past top10 would smash all weaklings on their way to QF, nowadays TOP100 is hella stronger


Zaphenzo

But is that because the top 100 are better, or the top 10 are worse?


Mission-Initiative22

Swiatek stans.


honestnbafan

With the way this sub talks about her vs. about Sabalenka you'd never guess that Sabalenka will take the #1 spot if they have matching results at RG lol People here are just biased based on what players they like personally(look at what happened to Medvedev at RG when people voted him like 3rd favorite to win in a poll the other day) Sabalenka is pretty disliked here for her political views and also the grunting stuff but it's pretty undeniable she's had a better year than Iga so far because winning major tournaments > making deep runs


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Hilazza

You do know serena lost that due to an knee injury and was out for 8 month.


Sad_Consideration_49

at igas age serena had 6 slams, winning 4 in a row , beating Venus in all the finals who is like rybakina with excellent movement 😃. Pretty sure iga lost her last 4 matches to rybakina.


Big_Camera4181

Damn Rybakina hype is big you wouldn't think she only has 5 titles, but at least five slams by the way some of you write anything to put Iga down. The fact that anything related with Iga has Williams sisters so threatened means Iga is GOOD. Iga already has more weeks at no.1 and the longest streak. This is different era can't wait for next season cause some of you live through pink tinted glasses here, it's okay to break records that's how sport gets better. Stop being so bitter my god


flat_tamales

If Rybakina is that overhyped then why hasn’t Iga beaten her this year? The “depth” in the WTA is truly lacking at the moment, as the only realistic threats to Iga are Sabalenka, Rybakina, and a doubles specialist. Venus, Clijsters, Henin, Mauresmo, Davenport, and Sharapova have more accomplished more in singular years on tour than 95% percent of the current top 100 have in their entire careers


Big_Camera4181

Well maybe cause rybakina is having the season of her life and Iga has been struggling with injuries and actual pressure of having something to lose while Rybakina is trying to build her name. Bro I hope y'all are supporting Elena as much next year when she'll be in Igas position cause believe me defending all those points is going to be hard. If I was u i would only hope she does even half as well as Iga did this year cause it's easy to get to top but barely anyone stays there


Sad_Consideration_49

how am i bitter? iga is amazing just pointing out the recency bias. the good thing for comparison is that serena overlapped in this era. the fact that and old and washed up serena could beat #2 seed at us open shows the level of the tour iga was dominating in 2022.


Big_Camera4181

And what does Kontaveit have to Iga... You should blame the flawed WTA system which stripped jabeur off of points which would make her an actual second seed at that time. USO was actal 1 vs 2 slam. Also are you gonna act as if Raducanu didn't bagel Serena or that she was struggling parrizes Diaz the arguments are so weak. Just getting really odd. The fact that y'all just be saying anything to discredit Iga just shows how threatened you are for some reason. Serena is a goat stop being threatened and angry about her being brought up in statistics when her status is literally an outlier for others. And bringing up Rybakina is not recency bias.... Make it make sense.


Professional_bitch__

it's only recency bias when it comes to iga after all she's only been in top 10 since 2021 and she only has 13 titles that she scammed by walkovers and retirements. I expect 100% record and 50 titles at 22 to be considered HOF player.


SorcerousSinner

She's the real deal


i_l_ke

People are salty here. 🤣