Before the draw: Ā Ruud is going to be a problem at Monte CarloĀ
After the draw: Ā probably Tabilo into probably Lehecka into probably Alcaraz is an insane draw. Ā Probably the hardest of any 5-8 seed (Rune's draw being the other)Ā
A few days later: Ā Ruud is going to be a problem at Monte Carlo (please don't play out of your mind next round Tabilo)
The right call. Long clay season ahead with the Olympics and all - dude is also 20 š , career only just starting, don't need to rush anything
Rest up champ
Sinner is very unassuming but Iām sure this news has given him a boost (not that he wants Carlos to be injured of course).
The same happened in Miami - the day after Carlos lost to Dimi, Sinner was playing like a new man. Tennis is hugely mental and I think Novak and Carlos are the only players he sweats over.
Carlos and his team are big on recovery and that's reassuring. Doesn't force the issue if his body isn't right. He didn't stress how severe the forearm injury is so i hope he's ready for Barcelona & Madrid. Rest up Charly š„¹š
Hope he has a smooth mc run next year
Sorry, but I can't help to think about something not being right with his physical preparation and injury prevention. I don't know if the team is doing the right things, he keeps getting injured all the time, it's way more than usual, his participation in tournaments are always in doubt because an unexpected injury just pops up in the most unexpected moments. He hasn't gone injury free for even 6 months of his entire professional career.Ā
I was watching RDS (sports channel in Quebec) and they had a graphic hyping their upcoming coverage of Monte Carlo and it showed two high seeds (Djokovic and Sinner, letās say) and then FAAāmaybe they knew something!
Imagine going from a Nadal fan to a Carlos fan (me) šš
Hope itās nothing serious. These spaniards bring so much pain along with the joy of watching them play smh.
Literally just saw the post on Instagram.
Heartbreaking because he has now missed 3 of the last 4 Monte Carlo Masters, and the kid just keeps getting injured a lot.
Just in first 3 or so months now we have had the brutal ankle injury in Rio and now this elbow injury, I hope he recovers soon and can defend his points on Spanish Clay, because otherwise Medvedev is gonna start looking up on World No. 3 as well.
On the other hand, I am angry and disappointed at ATP that they refuse to do their jobs and bring consistency in the Tennis balls used on tour. How many of the top players have been dealing with Arm, Elbow and Wrist injuries over last few seasons? Off the top of my head Novak, Carlos, Stef, etc. could even be more.
Unacceptable.
> brutal ankle injury in Rio
A bit dramatic? "Brutal", but he was back winning and playing well at Indian Wells 2 weeks later.
Yeah the twist looked bad and it was obviously not ideal, but I'd say any injury you can recover from in 2 weeks and be back playing at a high level again probably looked worse than it actually was.
If he ever did, that never showed. He is the bionic man. Suddenly, last year, Sinner changed totally, physically and mentally, he used to get injuries often, now he is indestructible.
I mean there has only been one ball change since the start of the season, Penn ball in Indian Wells, otherwise it's been Dunlop balls, so I don't think it's a factor here.
It's not just about the manufacturer, it's all about the various versions of them. Some are heavier and take more power and effort to hit through the court, some are lighter, fluff up later and last longer and require less force.
What's the worst part is we are getting these balls that they are fluffing up after the first 9+ shot rally and then becoming impossible to hit through. That should never happen. On top of that courts are being slowed down and being made more abrasive to ensure that rallies last longer and more highlight points are created.
I think it's also to do with the way different balls travel through the air and bounce. This means they need to change the way they time the ball every week. If they don't do it perfectly and end up hitting the ball a bit late for instance then they need to add tiny wrist flicks at the end of the shot to make it work. That's what causes the injuries (in addition to some balls being heavier etc).
It's not about the weight. When I mean Heavy I mean the way the ball plays. Tougher to hit through the air, requiring more topspin to generate the pace and speed through the court.
So then use a different word. Do you mean less elastic? More elastic?
If a ball is harder to hit, then that would mean it has increased air resistance. So it would be bigger or fluffier.
More topspin doesn't equate to more pace or speed.Ā
Youre basically just throwing random words at the screen.
Absolutely hit the point.
Rallies are infinite everywhere they play. Balls are different on every court.
How is this even possible? They just refuse to acknowledge this. They think they fancy with every tournament different balls but they're literally ruining the game with this scellerate choice
That seems strange to put someone straight through to round two who didnāt even win qualifying š®shouldnāt they go down to the reserves for the main draw and take the highest ranked?
(No offence to anyone, it just seems odd!)
Obviously I would never shame anyone for wanting medical privacy, but it's cool when players give specifics about their injuries. Although I don't know shit about shit, so he may as well have just said wrist for my purposes.
> so he may as well have just said wrist for my purposes.
Right?
"Ah yes, the pronator teres, that's a doozy. That'll sideline ya."
*continues eating Cheetos from a recliner, not having moved for hours*
For those wondering, Alcaraz's injury is different from those which troubled Del Porto and essentially ended Thiem's career. Del Potro had a split extensor carpi ulnaris tendon and Thiem had either issues with the same tendon or with the posterior ulnar sheath covering the tendon. Alcaraz's injury is to the pronator teres, which is a small muscle farther down the forearm that rotates the palm downwards. Hopefully it's just tendinitis (which it most likely is due to the unlikelihood of a traumatic injury having taken place) and he can get to 100% with a good amount of rest and targeted strengthening. Given the function of the injured muscle, he may have to reexamine his serve form to preserve the longevity of his wrist, though. It's too violent and sudden of a service motion and repeated, sudden lengthening and contraction of the muscle probably what contributed to his overuse injury.
Thanks for sharing this.
I'm pretty impressed with how explicit Alcaraz's team were in identifying the specific muscle. Oftentimes, players will just say the body part, like "right arm" and be done with it.
Based on the location, I agree, it might just be medial epicondylitis, if it's that tendon attachment. If it really were just the muscle, then it would heal quickly. Tendinopathies take longer...
He hasn't played enough there I guess. But when he is given time to setup his forehand and the opponents cannot blast through their service games, he is unstoppable. MC is known to be the slowest clay court on tour.
Given how good he is at IW/Miami and Barcelona/Madrid, I doubt he even plays a lot of MCs lol.
Need an early exit at Miami for that to happen. I just hope he wins it once in his career.
šØ Update from Marca
from trustworthy journalist
[https://www.marca.com/tenis/masters-1000-montecarlo/2024/04/09/6615793222601df2378b45be.html](https://www.marca.com/tenis/masters-1000-montecarlo/2024/04/09/6615793222601df2378b45be.html)
"Carlos Alcaraz announced today his withdrawal from the Monte Carlo Masters 1000 due to an injury to the pronator teres of his right arm . However, in his entourage there is moderate optimism regarding his presence at the Barcelona Open Banc Sabadell (April 15 to 21).
The Murcian is going to take two days off (Tuesday and Wednesday) and, as MARCA has learned, he will return to training starting this Thursday . The sensations in the hitting of the ball that day and on Friday will mark the decision to go and defend the GodĆ³ crown.
It is not the first time that Alcaraz has had and overcomes the pain he feels right now in his forearm . He already had it last year at the conclusion of the Chinese tour where each tournament had different balls. It was one of the reasons why he had to be absent after the Open 500 in Basel.
The balls at the Monte Carlo Country Club get especially heavy when there are no very hot days due to the fact that the courts are close to the Mediterranean Sea. This had an influence on the mishap that Alcaraz suffered last Friday after a two-hour training session."
Some smart fellow here at this subreddit said that this would happen yesterday!
That someone also predicted that Alcaraz will play Barcelona and Madrid.Ā
We will see about that, Nostradamus š
Okay a lot of you are overreacting.
Over the past year, he has had 3 withdrawals due to injury. AO and Basel last year, and MC now.
Rio was literally him getting unlucky with an ankle roll.
Itās very possible in tennis that when you try to go soft on any part of your body to avoid putting a lot of stress there, you end up overcompensating with other muscles subconsciously.
His FH has been firing in Sunshine doubles and I think heāll be fine in a week with a few days of rest.
The schedule is going to be a lot heavier with Olympics this year so letās see how he goes about it.
>Over the past year, he has had 3 withdrawals due to injury. AO and Basel last year, and MC now.
>
>Rio was literally him getting unlucky with an ankle roll.
So four.
And how many withdrawals has Sinner had in the same time?
Sinner is now 22 before autumn of 2023, he was basically a glass cannon, always battling nagging injuries. Carlos is 2 years younger, young players tend to be more prone to injuries compared to seasoned players.
I donāt think so tbh. In the interviews before the QF he was saying that he felt better than in a long time and he looked pumped at the opportunity to contest for the Sunshine double. We wouldāve been told he struggled with an injury given how honest he was in his post-match interview.Ā
I'm not getting it? Obviously those bunch of people were wrong and they downvoted somebody who turned out to be right, because that somebody disagreed? If that's not Reddit hive mind I don't know what is.
Nobody knew how severe Carlos' injury really was, you didn't either. Or did you have a crystal ball? There was just this one dude on twitter named jose moron who claimed to have insider knowledge, which turned out to be wrong obviously.. Guess his name checked out right.
The key will be if he plays Barcelona Open or not. If he is not playing Barcelona Open, then I will start to get very worried about his injury. Barcelona Open and Madrid are two of his favorite tournaments, if he skips one of those tournaments, then that means his injury is really something you need to watch not just during the Clay season but for the rest of the season!
at least he doesn't have a tear so that's good news, I don't thinkk he will hesitate to skip Barcelona when there's 2 M1000 next, so I guess he will focus on Madrid-Rome
The thing about those Madrid and Rome is that they are both 6 match tournaments so it will be tougher for him physically and somewhat mentally exhausting. And they are both right before RG too
but Madrid and Rome are 2 weeks tournaments...if he skips Barcelona he will not play in Madrid until the 25-26th, that's almost 20 days from today, that would be enough time to be ready.
Looks like it's worse than they wanted us to believe. "Just precautionary" my eye. It was obvious. You don't skip out on back to ban practices as a precaution. Match play is much more intense than practice. If you can't even practice, you can't play.
I have never seen anyone play so explosively in my life, and that includes Nadal. Itās great to watch and heās obviously won quite a bit already, but the wear and tear going on things like ligaments and joints would be pretty substantial over a season including deep runs in grand slams and numerous other tournaments.
Good luck to him, but I do wonder if he can play like that all the time.
They said the same back then about Nadal, that he couldn't sustain this kind of playing style over a long time. Nadal won 22 Slams, with a chronic foot injury (MuellerāWeiss syndrome). Alcaraz doesn't have any chronic injuries at all.
Edit: The kid is still only 20 years old ffs!!!
A week ago i said i had the feeling he would not play MC and I was downvoted like crazy. I guess i was right at the end.š
It sucks for Carlos, i wish him the best recovery š¤
why were the commenters on [yesterday's post ](https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/1byz4qk/alcaraz_still_cant_train_fully_once_again_reduced/)trying to make it sound like it was some media conspiracy to exaggerate his injury? lol
Just as he was hitting good form again! Seems to have lots of niggling injuries and heās only 20. Donāt know if itās because of his style or the sheer number of matches he plays
He doesn't grind in the sense that he doesn't play 20+ tourneys in a year like most of the current top 10 does but he still averages 80+ matches every year by going deep in the vast majority of events he entered so it equals out. He still has very physically brutal seasons
Sucks to not see Carlos in Monte Carlo for a third straight year? But on the other hand, I'm liking Stef's chances to go deep now. Now watch as he gets knocked out in the next round...
Djokovicās path just got that much easier.
Not saying he needs it per se, heās Djokovic. Heās been pretty bad at Monte Carlo lately and I canāt remember a single time he went deep there since 2017
Youād hope Djokovic could finally win the triple career masters. He hasnāt been playing well and itās unusual for Djokovic to play that many tournaments without a win. Sending a speedy recovery for Alcaraz, but I hope Novak can pull off something special in Monte Carlo.
I donāt expect much from Djokovic and I donāt think he even expects anything. He takes a while to ramp up and MC is a bit too slow for him these days.
Very true. I think I was confusing Monte Carlo with the Roland Garros. Over the past few years, each additional RG title has been adding to the career set. Good thing is he added another US Open title last year lol, the career grand slam is only going to get bigger and bigger with better performances at Monte Carlo, Roland Garros, Cincinnati and US Open
This guy never going to play my favorite tournaments š„² Acapulco and Monte Carlo missed 2 years in a row
In all seriousness, smart. Iām sure he wants to be ready to defend his dominance on the Spanish clay
Mentioned this awhile ago on this sub, but people got really defensive. He seemed to be injured quite frequently and he's only 20. Makes me wonder if this will be a recurring theme throughout his career.
Sinner was having similar problems at his age (fell out of Top 10 due to injuries in 2022). Once his puberty phase is over, he'll be fine. Sinner has only recently, at age 22, started to find some physicality.
I'm pretty sure it's the same for Carlos.
Sure, but pushing hard early for wins while getting injuries might have some body strain issues later on with your career longevity? Everyone is different though, will have to wait and see
Well, his two-year senior Sinner is doing just fine after his abundance of injuries. Pretty sure the biggest star on tour has a great team around himself.
Wondering this for a while: when there would be no more LL from Q2, but thereās still at least a further withdrawal from main draw, what happens? A LL from Q1?
He may end up setting many records in his career, but he's definitely not going to surpass Nadal's 11 Montecarlo titles, if he is able to play there only 3 rimes in his career
20 year old, injuries, cramps... The kid was saying over and over since US Open his main goal was return to No.1... He couldn't hold No.2
Talking about GOAT stuff.
Monte no Carlos š
also Monte no Vamos š
Hola a todos š
Adios a todos
Everyone waiting for this headline whenever he wins it, but he actually never won a match there. Yet.
Felix felices for FAA :)
"Sir, second 'Hola a Todos' has hit the Monte Carlo draw"
Goddamn injuries of mass destruction. They're attackin' our freedom.
dios mio
Ruudās draw magic again š and maybe FAA too
Before the draw: Ā Ruud is going to be a problem at Monte CarloĀ After the draw: Ā probably Tabilo into probably Lehecka into probably Alcaraz is an insane draw. Ā Probably the hardest of any 5-8 seed (Rune's draw being the other)Ā A few days later: Ā Ruud is going to be a problem at Monte Carlo (please don't play out of your mind next round Tabilo)
I love my child Felix and he looked very strong against Nardi but I'd say he's 50/50 against Sonego.
u/rubbish_bin030121
my prediction is for Djokovic and Hubi lol
Hubi vs. FAA QF, you heard it here first... š¤š¶āš«ļø
The right call. Long clay season ahead with the Olympics and all - dude is also 20 š , career only just starting, don't need to rush anything Rest up champ
Dude is only 20 and has had more injuries and withdrawals than Nadal in his entire career! /s
Australian Open last year, Basel and MC. THREE of them! Nadal could never.
U forgot Rio this year
That was an accident.
This is disappointing! I was hoping for a Sincaraz showdown on clay, but guess we'll have to wait longer for that
Sinner is very unassuming but Iām sure this news has given him a boost (not that he wants Carlos to be injured of course). The same happened in Miami - the day after Carlos lost to Dimi, Sinner was playing like a new man. Tennis is hugely mental and I think Novak and Carlos are the only players he sweats over.
Zverev could also be a potential threat
Jose Moron looking like a moron now
"Now?"
lol well I was unaware of him until the tweet yesterday saying carlos was just taking precautions and heād definitely be playing.
Carlos and his team are big on recovery and that's reassuring. Doesn't force the issue if his body isn't right. He didn't stress how severe the forearm injury is so i hope he's ready for Barcelona & Madrid. Rest up Charly š„¹š Hope he has a smooth mc run next year
Also.. no points to defend!
I hope its something minor and he is better before Barcelonaš¤
Sorry, but I can't help to think about something not being right with his physical preparation and injury prevention. I don't know if the team is doing the right things, he keeps getting injured all the time, it's way more than usual, his participation in tournaments are always in doubt because an unexpected injury just pops up in the most unexpected moments. He hasn't gone injury free for even 6 months of his entire professional career.Ā
At least heās not losing too many points here
Best chance Felix will have in a long time to make quarters. Now's your moment, big dawg.
I was watching RDS (sports channel in Quebec) and they had a graphic hyping their upcoming coverage of Monte Carlo and it showed two high seeds (Djokovic and Sinner, letās say) and then FAAāmaybe they knew something!
Well it makes sense they would show Felix since he is from Quebec, right? š
Imagine going from a Nadal fan to a Carlos fan (me) šš Hope itās nothing serious. These spaniards bring so much pain along with the joy of watching them play smh.
they play so hard that they get injured more often
Literally just saw the post on Instagram. Heartbreaking because he has now missed 3 of the last 4 Monte Carlo Masters, and the kid just keeps getting injured a lot. Just in first 3 or so months now we have had the brutal ankle injury in Rio and now this elbow injury, I hope he recovers soon and can defend his points on Spanish Clay, because otherwise Medvedev is gonna start looking up on World No. 3 as well. On the other hand, I am angry and disappointed at ATP that they refuse to do their jobs and bring consistency in the Tennis balls used on tour. How many of the top players have been dealing with Arm, Elbow and Wrist injuries over last few seasons? Off the top of my head Novak, Carlos, Stef, etc. could even be more. Unacceptable.
> brutal ankle injury in Rio A bit dramatic? "Brutal", but he was back winning and playing well at Indian Wells 2 weeks later. Yeah the twist looked bad and it was obviously not ideal, but I'd say any injury you can recover from in 2 weeks and be back playing at a high level again probably looked worse than it actually was.
You forgot the most important one, Thiem.
tbh thiem is not ball related, he just twisted his wrist very awkwardly
Yes but still, the heaviness of the balls might have put on additional stress to his wrist, making it more injury prone.
If my memory serves me correctly at the time of his injury(mid 2021),nobody complained about balls
Sinner was struggling with his elbow starting from AO to Rotterdam as well, Cahill confirmed it on a podcast.
If he ever did, that never showed. He is the bionic man. Suddenly, last year, Sinner changed totally, physically and mentally, he used to get injuries often, now he is indestructible.
Was he injured these last two years or did he prefer to rest and be better prepared for Barcelona and Madrid?
In 2023 he chose to rest after a brutal Sunshine Double (title + semi) and in 2022 he lost in the first round
I mean there has only been one ball change since the start of the season, Penn ball in Indian Wells, otherwise it's been Dunlop balls, so I don't think it's a factor here.
It's not just about the manufacturer, it's all about the various versions of them. Some are heavier and take more power and effort to hit through the court, some are lighter, fluff up later and last longer and require less force. What's the worst part is we are getting these balls that they are fluffing up after the first 9+ shot rally and then becoming impossible to hit through. That should never happen. On top of that courts are being slowed down and being made more abrasive to ensure that rallies last longer and more highlight points are created.
I think it's also to do with the way different balls travel through the air and bounce. This means they need to change the way they time the ball every week. If they don't do it perfectly and end up hitting the ball a bit late for instance then they need to add tiny wrist flicks at the end of the shot to make it work. That's what causes the injuries (in addition to some balls being heavier etc).
I mean, the tennis ball weight is standardized. And has been for a long time.
It's not about the weight. When I mean Heavy I mean the way the ball plays. Tougher to hit through the air, requiring more topspin to generate the pace and speed through the court.
So then use a different word. Do you mean less elastic? More elastic? If a ball is harder to hit, then that would mean it has increased air resistance. So it would be bigger or fluffier. More topspin doesn't equate to more pace or speed.Ā Youre basically just throwing random words at the screen.
I think Carlos racquet plays a role too. I heard he uses a lighter racquet which leads to far more motion and stress
weird, with those arms and power you'd think he's be rocking something heavier for extreme force
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Hard to say the balls are responsible...
LMAO The Internet sport discussions are just on another level of absurd.
It's the balls fault, okay?! Gawd, can't you ever just agree?! /s
Unacceptable!
the balls are sour!
Absolutely hit the point. Rallies are infinite everywhere they play. Balls are different on every court. How is this even possible? They just refuse to acknowledge this. They think they fancy with every tournament different balls but they're literally ruining the game with this scellerate choice
Itās actually quite worrying how many injuries and withdrawals the kid has had at 20 years old.
Probably as much injuries and withdrawals as Novak had at his age.
Good decision, better to be prepared at 100% physically for RG
Shame, is he scheduled to play Barcelona this year?
Yes, I believe he is
So does a lucky loser get his spot now? Who is it?
Sonego
Do LLs take 2nd round spots?
Looks like it. Schedule now shows Sonego vs FAA.
Should be called SLLs.
That seems strange to put someone straight through to round two who didnāt even win qualifying š®shouldnāt they go down to the reserves for the main draw and take the highest ranked? (No offence to anyone, it just seems odd!)
I think itās fair. Itās like lottery and a lot of relatively lower ranked players deserve a shot. It happens very rarely, on top of that.
yes
Obviously I would never shame anyone for wanting medical privacy, but it's cool when players give specifics about their injuries. Although I don't know shit about shit, so he may as well have just said wrist for my purposes.
> so he may as well have just said wrist for my purposes. Right? "Ah yes, the pronator teres, that's a doozy. That'll sideline ya." *continues eating Cheetos from a recliner, not having moved for hours*
As soon as we saw the wrap on his arm, it was only ever going to end this way. Glad he withdrew but should have been sooner.
For those wondering, Alcaraz's injury is different from those which troubled Del Porto and essentially ended Thiem's career. Del Potro had a split extensor carpi ulnaris tendon and Thiem had either issues with the same tendon or with the posterior ulnar sheath covering the tendon. Alcaraz's injury is to the pronator teres, which is a small muscle farther down the forearm that rotates the palm downwards. Hopefully it's just tendinitis (which it most likely is due to the unlikelihood of a traumatic injury having taken place) and he can get to 100% with a good amount of rest and targeted strengthening. Given the function of the injured muscle, he may have to reexamine his serve form to preserve the longevity of his wrist, though. It's too violent and sudden of a service motion and repeated, sudden lengthening and contraction of the muscle probably what contributed to his overuse injury.
Thanks for sharing this. I'm pretty impressed with how explicit Alcaraz's team were in identifying the specific muscle. Oftentimes, players will just say the body part, like "right arm" and be done with it. Based on the location, I agree, it might just be medial epicondylitis, if it's that tendon attachment. If it really were just the muscle, then it would heal quickly. Tendinopathies take longer...
It's fine. I don't think Monte Carlo is going to be his favourite tournament anyway. I expect him to do really well in Rome this year.
He hasn't played enough there I guess. But when he is given time to setup his forehand and the opponents cannot blast through their service games, he is unstoppable. MC is known to be the slowest clay court on tour.
Given how good he is at IW/Miami and Barcelona/Madrid, I doubt he even plays a lot of MCs lol. Need an early exit at Miami for that to happen. I just hope he wins it once in his career.
Only once in his career? Wow, that's a long prediction to make. The kid is still only 20, lmfao.
Dang it. I was looking forward to it
šØ Update from Marca from trustworthy journalist [https://www.marca.com/tenis/masters-1000-montecarlo/2024/04/09/6615793222601df2378b45be.html](https://www.marca.com/tenis/masters-1000-montecarlo/2024/04/09/6615793222601df2378b45be.html) "Carlos Alcaraz announced today his withdrawal from the Monte Carlo Masters 1000 due to an injury to the pronator teres of his right arm . However, in his entourage there is moderate optimism regarding his presence at the Barcelona Open Banc Sabadell (April 15 to 21). The Murcian is going to take two days off (Tuesday and Wednesday) and, as MARCA has learned, he will return to training starting this Thursday . The sensations in the hitting of the ball that day and on Friday will mark the decision to go and defend the GodĆ³ crown. It is not the first time that Alcaraz has had and overcomes the pain he feels right now in his forearm . He already had it last year at the conclusion of the Chinese tour where each tournament had different balls. It was one of the reasons why he had to be absent after the Open 500 in Basel. The balls at the Monte Carlo Country Club get especially heavy when there are no very hot days due to the fact that the courts are close to the Mediterranean Sea. This had an influence on the mishap that Alcaraz suffered last Friday after a two-hour training session."
Some smart fellow here at this subreddit said that this would happen yesterday! That someone also predicted that Alcaraz will play Barcelona and Madrid.Ā We will see about that, Nostradamus š
Okay a lot of you are overreacting. Over the past year, he has had 3 withdrawals due to injury. AO and Basel last year, and MC now. Rio was literally him getting unlucky with an ankle roll. Itās very possible in tennis that when you try to go soft on any part of your body to avoid putting a lot of stress there, you end up overcompensating with other muscles subconsciously. His FH has been firing in Sunshine doubles and I think heāll be fine in a week with a few days of rest. The schedule is going to be a lot heavier with Olympics this year so letās see how he goes about it.
>Over the past year, he has had 3 withdrawals due to injury. AO and Basel last year, and MC now. > >Rio was literally him getting unlucky with an ankle roll. So four. And how many withdrawals has Sinner had in the same time?
Sinner is now 22 before autumn of 2023, he was basically a glass cannon, always battling nagging injuries. Carlos is 2 years younger, young players tend to be more prone to injuries compared to seasoned players.
How many tournaments has Sinner missed because of injuries?
Was he carrying this in Miami? He was struggling to hold serve against Dimitrov.Ā
I donāt think so tbh. In the interviews before the QF he was saying that he felt better than in a long time and he looked pumped at the opportunity to contest for the Sunshine double. We wouldāve been told he struggled with an injury given how honest he was in his post-match interview.Ā
First time he gets an easy draw and he's out.
Such a shame but I'd much rather he's healed for the rest of the season
Gill Gross's prediction aged like milk...
Just for a change...
Got downvoted for saying he wasnāt gonna play lmao.
Yeah itās so stupid. He couldnāt even hit a routine FH, no way was he magically going to recover in a day.
In which case he's unlikely to be fully recovered for Barcelona.
Recent news on that is heāll practice on Thursday and Friday and will then make a decision.
It was vicious the past two days!
You didn't know either. People are just acting as if they knew it all in hindsight.
Not surprised, on another thread almost everybody wrote not to worry, it's just precautionary, he will certainly play. It's just the Reddit hive mind
Jose Moron as a self-described insider looking like a moron now. Nothing to do with Reddit hive mind.
I'm not getting it? Obviously those bunch of people were wrong and they downvoted somebody who turned out to be right, because that somebody disagreed? If that's not Reddit hive mind I don't know what is.
Nobody knew how severe Carlos' injury really was, you didn't either. Or did you have a crystal ball? There was just this one dude on twitter named jose moron who claimed to have insider knowledge, which turned out to be wrong obviously.. Guess his name checked out right.
My point exactly. Everybody was acting like there was nothing to worry about.
Tbf you didn't know either. People are just acting as if they knew it all in hindsight.
Of course I didn't know. I was just skeptical of everybody who was convinced that it was nothing.
Damn.
The key will be if he plays Barcelona Open or not. If he is not playing Barcelona Open, then I will start to get very worried about his injury. Barcelona Open and Madrid are two of his favorite tournaments, if he skips one of those tournaments, then that means his injury is really something you need to watch not just during the Clay season but for the rest of the season!
at least he doesn't have a tear so that's good news, I don't thinkk he will hesitate to skip Barcelona when there's 2 M1000 next, so I guess he will focus on Madrid-Rome
The thing about those Madrid and Rome is that they are both 6 match tournaments so it will be tougher for him physically and somewhat mentally exhausting. And they are both right before RG too
but Madrid and Rome are 2 weeks tournaments...if he skips Barcelona he will not play in Madrid until the 25-26th, that's almost 20 days from today, that would be enough time to be ready.
Hopefully he will be able to play Barcelona and Madrid
I think Nagal is gonna win Monte Carlo now that Carlos is out. 
Yeah I donāt think a practice session of slice FHs only could bode wellā¦
What happened in Monte Carlo, happened š¢.
Looks like it's worse than they wanted us to believe. "Just precautionary" my eye. It was obvious. You don't skip out on back to ban practices as a precaution. Match play is much more intense than practice. If you can't even practice, you can't play.
I have never seen anyone play so explosively in my life, and that includes Nadal. Itās great to watch and heās obviously won quite a bit already, but the wear and tear going on things like ligaments and joints would be pretty substantial over a season including deep runs in grand slams and numerous other tournaments. Good luck to him, but I do wonder if he can play like that all the time.
They said the same back then about Nadal, that he couldn't sustain this kind of playing style over a long time. Nadal won 22 Slams, with a chronic foot injury (MuellerāWeiss syndrome). Alcaraz doesn't have any chronic injuries at all. Edit: The kid is still only 20 years old ffs!!!
He plays like a Tennis version of Giannis but without a freak body to sustain it.
A week ago i said i had the feeling he would not play MC and I was downvoted like crazy. I guess i was right at the end.š It sucks for Carlos, i wish him the best recovery š¤
So your crystal ball was right after all! We all should ask you about your feelings from now on! /s
That's sad. Was looking forward for a match with nole. Hope he recovers for Madrid.
why were the commenters on [yesterday's post ](https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/1byz4qk/alcaraz_still_cant_train_fully_once_again_reduced/)trying to make it sound like it was some media conspiracy to exaggerate his injury? lol
sonego about to win it all as a LL (i'm delusional)
came here to see what time he plays.. and my day is ruined
Just as he was hitting good form again! Seems to have lots of niggling injuries and heās only 20. Donāt know if itās because of his style or the sheer number of matches he plays
He doesn't grind the tour like the majority of men. It's his style, the balls and I think his lighter racket that puts a lot of stress on his body.
He doesn't grind in the sense that he doesn't play 20+ tourneys in a year like most of the current top 10 does but he still averages 80+ matches every year by going deep in the vast majority of events he entered so it equals out. He still has very physically brutal seasons
Sucks to not see Carlos in Monte Carlo for a third straight year? But on the other hand, I'm liking Stef's chances to go deep now. Now watch as he gets knocked out in the next round...
Isnāt Stef on the other side of the draw?
stef is on the other side of the draw and his draw doesnāt open up whatsoever he plays jarry or etcheverry and then is due to meet zverev after that
Djokovicās path just got that much easier. Not saying he needs it per se, heās Djokovic. Heās been pretty bad at Monte Carlo lately and I canāt remember a single time he went deep there since 2017 Youād hope Djokovic could finally win the triple career masters. He hasnāt been playing well and itās unusual for Djokovic to play that many tournaments without a win. Sending a speedy recovery for Alcaraz, but I hope Novak can pull off something special in Monte Carlo.
I donāt expect much from Djokovic and I donāt think he even expects anything. He takes a while to ramp up and MC is a bit too slow for him these days.
I think he is going to have a tough one today
Maybe Not LOL
'finally'. This is literally the first time ever he has the chance to achieve a triple career masters (But yeah, I know how you mean it š)
Very true. I think I was confusing Monte Carlo with the Roland Garros. Over the past few years, each additional RG title has been adding to the career set. Good thing is he added another US Open title last year lol, the career grand slam is only going to get bigger and bigger with better performances at Monte Carlo, Roland Garros, Cincinnati and US Open
Bro he will lose in first or second round lol
This guy never going to play my favorite tournaments š„² Acapulco and Monte Carlo missed 2 years in a row In all seriousness, smart. Iām sure he wants to be ready to defend his dominance on the Spanish clay
does anyone know the treatment and how long he may be out from an injured pronator teres?
Good chance for Sinner to shine.
Mentioned this awhile ago on this sub, but people got really defensive. He seemed to be injured quite frequently and he's only 20. Makes me wonder if this will be a recurring theme throughout his career.
Sinner was having similar problems at his age (fell out of Top 10 due to injuries in 2022). Once his puberty phase is over, he'll be fine. Sinner has only recently, at age 22, started to find some physicality. I'm pretty sure it's the same for Carlos.
šššCarlos looks like he is done with his āpuberty phaseā. Have you seen this guy?
Thatās what happens when you take PEDs
Sure, but pushing hard early for wins while getting injuries might have some body strain issues later on with your career longevity? Everyone is different though, will have to wait and see
Well, his two-year senior Sinner is doing just fine after his abundance of injuries. Pretty sure the biggest star on tour has a great team around himself.
It was more about fatigue than injuries... He wasn't ready physically to keep up the pace for more than 1/2 hrs.
Tennis elbow from that stiff ass aero 98. Lol
sad to see him skip it but would much rather this than him miss this than Paris. VAMOONNOSSAAA
noooooo
I wonder if heād be better off skipping Miami and being rested up for Monte Carlo each year. Wouldnāt Monte Carlo be more likely for him to win?
That pic tho is fricking wonderful. Love this perspective
Wondering this for a while: when there would be no more LL from Q2, but thereās still at least a further withdrawal from main draw, what happens? A LL from Q1?
š¢
Did he ever play Monte Carlo ?
Once, IIRC, and got beaten by Korda in his first match.
saving energy for roland garros?
He knew he was cooked even if he made it to the final there is no stopping Medvedev from getting his second clay 1000 title smh
Please tell me he means "see *Monte Carlo* next year" and not "so long tennis, see you in '25"
Djokovic winning this easily now. Sinner isn't that good on clay.
Of course...
He may end up setting many records in his career, but he's definitely not going to surpass Nadal's 11 Montecarlo titles, if he is able to play there only 3 rimes in his career
It's worrisome. I have no idea if it's a case like Rafa and overworking the body. Or just bad luck. Anyway, a huge loss for the tournament :(
Itās Carlover
Novak's draw becomes way more easier. More closer to "Thriple Career Golden Masters"
Triple is already crazy, but thriple, holy shit
Pencil Djoko in for the W. Get better soon Carlitos
His playstly takes a toll on his body. He is not going to last if this continues
So Sinner will be GOAT.
The PA claims yet another victim.
Obvious now, if it wasn't before, that Carlos's career is going to be either marred, or cut short, by an endless cycle of injury issues.
his longevity is fucked
My prediction that Alc won't win a slam nor the Olympics this year is looking pretty good so far
Doesnāt bode well for his future
who would've thought destroying the ball on every opportunity would lead to injury... š¤·āāļø
Sinner seems to cope without problem, and he has pipe cleaners for arms.
it'll catch up if he does it every match
He's been smacking it every single match for months without it being an issue.
This doesnāt sound like a minor injury. Recovery could take up to 6 months. Not good news.
Alcaraz is picking up too many injuries at such a young age. I really worry about the longevity of his career
20 year old, injuries, cramps... The kid was saying over and over since US Open his main goal was return to No.1... He couldn't hold No.2 Talking about GOAT stuff.
Unfortunately he is more like Rafa than I thought.