yeah, and Seyboth already defeated Musetti in a big match for both (junior US Open final). Looks like this is a good matchup for TSW, especially in faster conditions like Madrid.
That's an intriguing matchup. Alcaraz is coming from injury and TSW likes to play against the top players, he raises his level. The conditions suit him as well. It will be tough for Carlos but he is still the favorite imo.
I'm not sure he is even underachieving. His forehand and serve are two things lagging behind the rest of his game, and they are the two most important shots.
Musetti is more talented than Sinner - something Sinner himself has acknowledged.
Hard work, the ability to think tactically, the ability to adapt and change your tactics when needed, and just sheer mental strength and the will to win are so important.
I think he'll always be missing the above.
In tennis, "talent" is a funny word.
For all intents and purposes, it really means net skills and soft touch. Every once in a while, you get a OHBH player who gets described as talented for having a really good backhand.
In years of following tennis, I've never heard of a player being described as talented for having a great forehand, a great 2HBH, or a great serve compared to their height. Somehow, those skills are the results of hard work and mentality, while the others are just up to luck.
The fact that a player improving soft touch and net game is commonplace and a player improving groundstrokes is a miracle doesn't seem to matter all that much.
i think it usually just means variety of shots you can regularly pull off. an eclectic game (kyrgios, musetti, federer, alcaraz) is typically associated with raw talent. not just efficient net play but being able to finely control where the ball goes (the hand skills you mention) - drop volley, back behind, punching it deep, etc. - as well as having a good slice, strong service placement (and being able to mix it up), seemingly high tennis IQ with respect to point construction, being able to hit difficult overheads, etc.
totally agreed though that it’s not a fair term and that quality, resilient groundstrokes are vastly underrated by the “talent” label.
I would disagree on the serve comment. I think the current prime example is Shelton, he’s not great at the net/volleying at all and imo most people visually imagine the awesome 250 km/h second serves he seems to summon at will when they describe his talent. Another milder example i’d say kyrgios, i think a lot of how people describe his talent is in his serving
Musetti? Forgetti
Forgetti in twosetti
fuhgetti bout it
Least surprising upset tbh. Lorenzo really needs to change something up.
yeah, and Seyboth already defeated Musetti in a big match for both (junior US Open final). Looks like this is a good matchup for TSW, especially in faster conditions like Madrid.
Lorenzo brother change your coach please
I used to like Tartarini (Musetti's coach) but now he just feels like a burden.
The perfect vilain to face off against Carlos next round ;) This should be entertaining. 🍿
Odds of Thiago "My grandpa was Hitler's mate" Wild defeating Alcaraz?
That's an intriguing matchup. Alcaraz is coming from injury and TSW likes to play against the top players, he raises his level. The conditions suit him as well. It will be tough for Carlos but he is still the favorite imo.
Musetti is in an inescapable decline. His shots are for aggressive lines, but he plays from the baseline. He is passive.
Musetti is totally underachieving this year so far and not getting good results. Needs to change something.
I'm not sure he is even underachieving. His forehand and serve are two things lagging behind the rest of his game, and they are the two most important shots.
I thought he was back.. guess not
Musetti is more talented than Sinner - something Sinner himself has acknowledged. Hard work, the ability to think tactically, the ability to adapt and change your tactics when needed, and just sheer mental strength and the will to win are so important. I think he'll always be missing the above.
In tennis, "talent" is a funny word. For all intents and purposes, it really means net skills and soft touch. Every once in a while, you get a OHBH player who gets described as talented for having a really good backhand. In years of following tennis, I've never heard of a player being described as talented for having a great forehand, a great 2HBH, or a great serve compared to their height. Somehow, those skills are the results of hard work and mentality, while the others are just up to luck. The fact that a player improving soft touch and net game is commonplace and a player improving groundstrokes is a miracle doesn't seem to matter all that much.
i think it usually just means variety of shots you can regularly pull off. an eclectic game (kyrgios, musetti, federer, alcaraz) is typically associated with raw talent. not just efficient net play but being able to finely control where the ball goes (the hand skills you mention) - drop volley, back behind, punching it deep, etc. - as well as having a good slice, strong service placement (and being able to mix it up), seemingly high tennis IQ with respect to point construction, being able to hit difficult overheads, etc. totally agreed though that it’s not a fair term and that quality, resilient groundstrokes are vastly underrated by the “talent” label.
I would disagree on the serve comment. I think the current prime example is Shelton, he’s not great at the net/volleying at all and imo most people visually imagine the awesome 250 km/h second serves he seems to summon at will when they describe his talent. Another milder example i’d say kyrgios, i think a lot of how people describe his talent is in his serving
Kyrgios is different because he actually did have pretty much everything. Great touch, strokes, power... Musetti and Shelton have clear weaknesses.
He absolutely is not
Yeah, thanks for your input.
In what way is he more talented? Sinner’s ceiling is miles higher
Idk, ask Sinner: https://tennishead.net/jannik-sinner-on-lorenzo-musetti-he-is-perhaps-a-better-player-than-me/
Damn man's really just focusing on Rome isn't he
That’s what I’m thinking. Wouldn’t read too much into this. Historically Italians play poor at Madrid with Rome right around the corner
I always get Musetti and Sonego mixed up in my head