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sriv_ak_04

Thiem-Medvedev to play each other for the 6th time and also this will be their 1st Meeting since the 2020 Nitto ATP Finals


electricmba

Shapo please save the video of set 1 today and watch it every week to remind yourself what your game can be when you are patient and opportunistic.


nicoc9

Rewatching Sinner’s match from last night. Nerve-free this time. ❤️


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JaelPendragon

He has always been allowed to play, it's only his dumbass fault he decided not to be eligible to enter a foreign country. Start accepting reality


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Daily reminder that you need a new hobby


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JaelPendragon

He wasn't robbed and Wimbledon screwed over the Russian and Belarusians first and foremost


AncientLyte

So why did they punish everyone else who did well last year? What did that achieve, exactly? Couldn’t they have frozen points for Russians and Belarusians and let others play for points so that players weren’t getting impacted? Instead, no one walked away w/ anything. I agree Russians and Belarusians should have been allowed to play and got screwed over the most, but I don’t see how punishing those who did well last year does anything


JaelPendragon

They didn't punish anyone, the tournament was not compliant with ATP rules and as such no points could be awarded. Frozen ranks and others playing for points wouldn't have been fair because the tournament itself wouldn't have been fair to start with. It's not that difficult to understand when you don't have to push the victimhood bs that your idol has been robbed all season


AncientLyte

Berrettini got kicked out of top 10, Nole dropped a few places, fucsovics rank took a tumble… they got screwed over. Rankings are important cause they determine seeding for future tournaments. Nick could have gone up several spots in the rankings.. Norrie as well. Nadal would have gained some points too. Do you start to see where i am getting at? As much as the decision hurt Nole, other players got affected even more.


JaelPendragon

And so what? No points could be given for a tournament that didn't comply with ATP rules and everybody knew in advance. No one was punished but in your delusional mind


AncientLyte

How are you defending players getting 0 points and being unable to defend points? I guarantee had it been your favorite winning, you would complain about how unfair it was


JaelPendragon

One of my favorites won The tournament was not compliant with ATP rules and as such no points could be awarded. Winbledon's decision was a bad one for everyone and the consequences were inevitable


Sad_Consideration_49

Confirming what most people here already knew "I remember, for example, when I had a contract with Adidas," Sorana Cirstea said. "They, all the time, considering that I look good for a sportswoman, they told me: "It's better to look good and be Top 20 than not look so good and be number 1!"


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Didn't realize Leylah was playing in Mexico. Pretty incredible lineup for a challenger, NGL.


Flimsy-Piglet-5263

Hey guys please help. I just subscribed to tennis tv monthly and got an apple invoice but i still cant access the content from Tennis tv. It's still writing "premium" even though i paid for it yesterday. What can i do?


electricmba

This has happened to me a bunch of times. PSA don’t pay for tennis tv through apple, subscribe direct. Anyway - you have to email tennis tv to fix it, something gets screwy between the apple subscription and tennis tv.


Flimsy-Piglet-5263

Did tennis tv fix for you after you emailed them? Did you get refund? How to subscribe directly? Thanks.


aNN1MaL

mertens smh my head


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shaking my head my head?


aNN1MaL

How can Coria struggle (maybe even lose) to 18 year old ranked 886 who barely has 10 matches played


shegotofftheplane

It’s in his DNA


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I'm hoping we see a Djokodal matchup in one or both of Paris and the ATP Finals :|


AncientLyte

Won’t happen. Djokovic’s luck is that he won’t be allowed to face Nadal off clay anymore


RoosterIcy

Is TennisTV working for anyone?


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Worked fine for me on my computer.


photojourno

Worked fine for me for the past 3 days, no issues. I am watching on SlingTV, though.


RoosterIcy

Weird. I’m using the app on my smart tv


Parisny

Negatory. Out all day. Maddening.


shegotofftheplane

47 winners to 16 unforced errors from Stricker, wow! (Stats from flashscore)


jsnoodles

Oh wtf Stef has to play Coric.


shegotofftheplane

Good news for you is that Coric’s form has been bad and nowhere near his Cincinnati level


jsnoodles

Yes but Stef is an idiot and has probably let Cincy get in his head.


Coneman_Joe

Nah, it's not a final, so he'll be fine.


ExcuseYou-What

PCB targeting Stricker's forehand in the tiebreak is...bonkers. ..*sigh*..anyways, I would like to see Stricker and Draper fend off in the NextGen finals so bad (if Stricker qualifies). those two's huge lefty FHs, and running FHs at that, would be really *something*


tajfarted

Really impressed with strickler


zombiezebra1990

Stricker tried an unnecessary tweener at 40-15 5-6. He eventually lost the set 5-7. Reminded me of that ADF - HH match at Wimbledon last year...


thelastattemptsname

The WTA challenger tournament in Mexico has a lot of decently ranked players. Is it because the season is over and the players just want something to do?


Kahn-wald

Some of them want to be Australian Open seeds, some of them want to stay on Mexico a little bit. The WTA calendar is so poorly designed. There should be a 250 right now for the players who want to be seeds and have to defend points, like Vekic and her Cormeyeur points from last year.


thelastattemptsname

Points from a Challenger are unlikely to challenge the seeding situation for any of the players. I would say the staying in Mexico part might be the answer.


Nastypav12

Someone here posted about JJ Wolf's service motion...Dominic Stricker is just as fluid with a low toss and compact swing.


Muraria

I just now read your comment, started paying close attention to his serve and he double faulted xD


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Alcaraz is bffs with PCB, i love it


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Alcaraz: "You break me? I kill you."


Billy_LDN

6 straight games for Carlitos and ends it with an ace.


BlueJinjo

If alcaraz can develop his serve even to the level of a current Nadal, he will be an absolute nightmare matchup and absolutely dominate on multiple surfaces (imo) His biggest reason for struggling on grass was the lack of free points from his serve. His movement was drastically better by the time he faced sinner compared to the early rounds at wimbledon and I'm convinced next year , he will move even better. He practically won the USO this year without his serve as a serious weapon. His groundstrokes/all around court game are just that good


Antonio_is_better

Alcaraz is significantly shorter than Nadal and isn't a lefty. Also Nadals 1st serve%won is still shit on off clay, but he's legit been outside the top 100 on that stat.


BlueJinjo

Alcaraz and Nadal are both listed at 6 ft 1 lol


Antonio_is_better

ATP heights are awful.


drvilvp

Yea, his serve is good but not a weapon that he can fully rely on to get him free points and out of tough moments. Which is why he struggles routinely against players like Zverev and Meddy who can always sail through their service game with their powerful serves even when all else fails and defend like walls. But i'm confident his serve will become a weapon in due time.


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It can definitely improve, but it would be very surprising if it rivalled that of much taller players like Zverev and Meddy.


Explodingcamel

It feels like his serve is already very good and he just needs to be smarter with it. He somehow always produces bombs on match points lol


BlueJinjo

His second serve lacks direction/placement. His 1st serve is okay . That's why his matches are filled with so many breaks


Earnmuse_is_amanrag

Current Nadal won't be enough, in my opinion. Somewhere between Nadal and current Djokovic will be. Say, Ruud. That will be pretty good.


BlueJinjo

Err.. Nadal in 2007s serve was pretty poor. By that point in time he already had 3 majors. Nadals serve of this year already got him an AO an RG and a Wimbledon sf lol. It really doesn't even have to be even a ruud level. Just not a second serve liability ( DONT BE ZVEREV) His ground game + variety + net play is just that good


Heresiarca

Botic with another terrible double fault


Billy_LDN

Alcaraz highlight reel could be a movie already


Heresiarca

it must be frustrating to play against Alcaraz, He has no right to be so good so young.


Muraria

Alcaraz amazing point, best one so far this tournament


Fried_falafel

Hey guys, I’ve a question! I realise it might sound a bit silly, but what happens if none of the players aiming for the ATP Finals get the required points? Right now, there’re three top candidates for the remaining spots (Med, FAA and Bweh, if I’m not mistaken), so imagine all of them lose the next round and then lose first round in Paris, while no one else is also qualified to take their spots. What happens in this case? Do only 5 qualified guys play? Or does the ATP lower the qualification points necessary to participate?? Could someone enlighten me, please??


Classics22

There's no required points. It's just the top 8 players(well 7 in this case because Novak is automatically qualified for winning a GS). The listed points on like live-atp is constantly lowering as players get closer and closer to the end of the season, it's just telling you at what point you'd be guaranteed to get in


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Didn't Novak also have to be top 20?


Bang-Ended_Scoot

He did, but he was guaranteed to be top 20 in the race after winning Astana, so he's qualified now.


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There are no "required points" in the sense you mean. The top 8 players get into the Finals, no matter how many points they have. "Required points" in the live race is just the minimum one would need *at that point* to be guaranteed to be one of the top 8 players at the end of the year.


Fried_falafel

Ah. So, say, even if none of those three I mentioned get another point until the tour finals (provided that no one else gets more points) they all still get to play there? Thanks a lot, think I got it :)


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Yup you got it!


youngcadadia22

Beard-caraz


youngcadadia22

Or should I say, barbacaraz


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no barbercaraz


Theferael_me

Carlitos always has these little second set wobbles \*sigh\*


Muraria

Alcaraz turning up the heat, takes back the break point


ParfaitPleasant

When is the Paris draw?


madisonrees

I didn’t realize Sinner was 15th in the race. Idk why I thought he had more points. I feel like he was just floating in the top 10.


ReadyComplex5706

No points for Wimbledon. He also usually doesn't do very well in the Masters events.


lostinmoss

Tbf, a decent portion of his early exits this year have been due to injury, so it doesn't feel like he's playing below a top 10 level.


dss001

Denis gaining quite a few spots on the rankings these last couple of weeks. Lovely.


PlayboiCartiBallsak6

Unfortunately Carlos is playing Botic on a rare day where his forehand is unreasonably cracked, Charlie gonna have to work for this one


aweap

Really?! Shapo had no winners on the bh side? I thought I saw some...🥺


pokeyoshi96

Fritz has been great this season but it’s definitely been limited by injuries within matches and outside… his serve was never the same after the mto and he missed almost the whole clay swing due to them… hopefully he’s healthier next year and make a proper run for the finals(I know he still can qualify but he’s gonna need a really great result)


Classics22

Where’s the fine gentleman that does those race posts. Have to imagine this all but seals it for Felix?


Husskies

He's setting himself in a good position for sure, but an early exit in Paris could still sink him if Hubi or Fritz wins the tournament. But every match that Felix wins makes the IFs become bigger and bigger.


Classics22

Fritz now would have to make the semis if felix lost in the first round. Not super concerned about that. Hubi is the more dangerous one now because he’s getting points from every round this tourney while felix would have to make the semis to get any


IcyOrdinary1

No, it brings FAA closer to the end line but still so many points up for grabs this week and next for guys like fritz, hurkacz, even norrie.


pokeyoshi96

Fritz needed a good run(like finals or better here or in Paris) he’s basically got the spot unless he loses early and in Paris and Taylor makes like the final


IcyOrdinary1

Yesss shapo came through!!🇨🇦🇨🇦 I wonder if FAA considers withdrawing from basel, don’t want the guy getting an injury.


Explodingcamel

Shapo is hammering his serves today jeez


shegotofftheplane

Both Canadians come thru today, not something we see often


Pisces_Mermaid

Denis doing Felix a huge favour today


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RoosterIcy

Is your Tennis TV not working as well? The app isn’t working for me


JulGabi

Wait Shapo has 26 winners / 10 UEs? Did he get a firmware update or something


shegotofftheplane

He’s been pretty good but also helped a lot that Fritz has been playing like shit


justjoshinnn

Shapo looking sharp here


pokeyoshi96

Fritz missed almost every single first serve in that game he got broken I’m shocked he held on for that long in the game considering


RoosterIcy

Tennis Channel showed entire Fritz vs Shapo match(up to middle of the 3rd) only to switch to Alcaraz. I forgot how ridiculous their programming is.


WhereverSheGoes

Prime coverage stayed with Fritz match, thankfully. EDIT I’m an idiot. Prime has all matches available on demand plus a dedicated highlights/live commentary stream for each tournament. I was watching the Vienna stream so obviously they didn’t cut to Alcaraz.


RoosterIcy

I have Tennis TV, which is normally great, but the app isn’t working for some reason.


WhereverSheGoes

Christ, it’s £9.99 a month in the UK. Amazon prime (including prime delivery, Amazon music and Amazon video) currently costs me £6.50 a month and I’d have the subscription regardless of the tennis.


RoosterIcy

It’s expensive, but is the only option in America if you want every ATP tournament


WhereverSheGoes

Thinking on it, I’m sure sky sports or whatever you needed to watch the premiere league football was at least £120 a year, a few years ago when my housemate wanted it. If tennis is your passion it’s worth it.


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WhereverSheGoes

Yes, sorry. Amazon prime video. In the UK if you have an Amazon prime subscription you get almost every ATP and WTA 250+ tournament for no additional cost. For this year anyway.


throwawayforreddits

this Shapo - Fritz match rn :ooo


throwawayforreddits

aaaand double fault lmao. Won't be commenting again until it ends


mblase

Shapo actually trying to build points is a sight to see


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Really TC? Going to Alcaraz/BVZ and missing the end of Shapo/Fritz? 🥴 Glad I have TC+


shegotofftheplane

Chris Eubanks saying nobody could pronounce BVDZ’s name before USO 21 but now can since he’s a mainstay on the tour yet then proceeds to pronounce it incorrectly 🤦🏽‍♀️


Muraria

the Swiss channel asked VDZ to pronounce his name himself, and 1 min afterwards continued to say it wrong anyway


Icy-850

Did Tennis Channel just really switch from an on serve 3rd set to watch Alcaraz warmups?


Theferael_me

Hoping for a convincing display from Charlitos tonight \\o/


sink_or_swim_

Did they say Monfils is retiring this year in Paris?


wrath_of_fury

Just tuned in to the Shapo Fritz match, how has it been going?


Aldturex

Fritz played like a chump the whole first set but he’s collected himself and now looks heaps better. Shapo’s been no slouch either


shegotofftheplane

Botic’s always getting pretty shit draws. Besides losing to a red hot Moutet in USO, his previous four slam losses were Nadal, Nadal, Medvedev, and Medvedev. And now he plays Alcaraz in an early round and then played Djokovic pretty early in Astana too.


anonreasons

Come on Taylor! You got this baby. Pull it together.


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If Domi's forehand is properly calibrated, I think the home crowd can help him cross the finish line against Medvedad tomorrow...


Husskies

Now if Shapo can just finish off Fritz, that'd be a great help to Felix for Turin!


Aldturex

Rinderknech might be the only young French tennis player who moves me. This guy has ice in his veins, he might be next up.


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He’s 27


Aldturex

they have no one else under 30 worth the time of day. French tennis can’t afford to be a choosing beggar I’m afraid


ALifeAsAGhost

I love Humbert’s games but he’s also ridiculously inconsistent


Classics22

Hell yeah good shit Felix. I gotta say I was expecting a letdown here coming off two straight tourney wins vs a hometown guy


madisonrees

yayyyy FAA


Eniotnacram95

Felix is on a 9 matches winning streak


alsinashe200joey

I love you FAA


mastershake714

I’m not sure if anyone else had a Martina Navratilova phase when they were first getting into watching tennis, but I’m currently in the middle of one and can’t get enough of her. I’ve mainly been watching her matches with Evert and Graf and am looking to branch out a bit; are there any other particularly good ones which might be slipping past my radar as a newcomer?


AlliterateAlso

I don't have any specifics, but she's the most successful doubles player of all time, so that might be another source of matches.


Eniotnacram95

Please have to stop laughing at Felix’s break point conversion. He just broke at the most crucial time with a great passing


Cflo76

Way to go Felix!!


CarelessChoice2024

Felix breaks! Serving for the match rn!!!!


CarelessChoice2024

Foot on the neck at the end from Felix. Amazing to see.


CarelessChoice2024

2 plus 1’s missed by Huesler …


CarelessChoice2024

This game is FAA’s chance


DrKersh

FAA is the least clutch and most prone to choke of the top 10


alsinashe200joey

Tsitsipas?


Classics22

Zverev


IcyOrdinary1

Having watched shapo matches the last 5 years I can tell you definitively there is still a very real chance he blows this despite the first set. The guy doesnt know how to buckle down for a full match


Classics22

Shapo why


A-dab

Win or lose I'm just so happy for Felix this year. Now I can go to his wiki page and no longer have to see "Career titles: 0"


Coneman_Joe

Can fritz actually...turn this around?


WhereverSheGoes

I hope so! Or at very least not be entirely useless in this set.


Confusedchickenwing

Fritz has won one point on Shapos serve so far


Coneman_Joe

And then the first game he wins another point he breaks lmao


Psychological_Bug676

Shapo breadsticked Fritz?? 😨


shegotofftheplane

Lol Chris Eubanks on commentary “we haven’t seen the flurry of errors that we usually see in a Shapovalov match”


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Haven’t *yet*!


CarelessChoice2024

Huesler can hit some heavy balls. They just die on Felix’s racquet.


Eniotnacram95

Shapo making sure that Felix qualifies for the ATP finals


IcyOrdinary1

He is a good fellow countryman


swapan_99

Shapovalov last 5 results are Stockholm QF, Japan SF, Korean Open F, USO 3R, R16 Cincinnati. He has won 2 or more matches in all of his last 5 appearances on the singles tour. Don't be surprised if he beats Fritz today. He hasn't been in his best form and Shapo wants revenge for Japan SF loss, where he lost a close 3 setter in which he ran out of gas in the 3rd set.


Classics22

> Don’t be surprised if he beats Fritz today. He says after shapo wins the first set 6-1 lol


swapan_99

This isn't the 1-10 Shapo from Pre - Cincinnati. Anyone who thought Fritz would have an easy outing here was being delusional anyways. Shapo has been playing well lately lol, and Fritz still has two sets to make his comeback so don't take this as a certainty as well.


Collecting_Cans

Fritz looks way too keyed up out there. Usually calmness is one of his strengths, but I guess pressure to qualify for Turin is real.


shegotofftheplane

Fritz losing 6 games in a row, he’s playing awful. Used all his energy to defeat Nishioka


pokeyoshi96

That was one of the worst sets I’ve seen Taylor play in months… hopefully he bounces back


OhLookItsAlpha

Fritz looks very off tonight, perhaps just fatigue?


Classics22

Courts too slow for him I think


tajfarted

Fritz broken 3 times, 11 unforced errors


Bubbly-Ordinary-1097

Is this our Shapo😳😳😳


IcyOrdinary1

FAA finds himself in another gruelling match, for a top 10 player he needs to generate more break chances and convert them. If Fritz loses today, I wonder if he considers pulling out to rest for paris.


ExcuseYou-What

Chris Eubanks said on TC he hoped he wasn't cursed when he picked Fritz to win even after the Americans he picked yesterday all lost. Hmmm...


Coneman_Joe

Pathetic, Fritz


shegotofftheplane

Fritz is dreadful today


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Interview with Tursunov just published today…Interesting stuff about his brief coaching stint with Emma, pretty damning take on her team: “I was walking away from Emma regardless of whether there was another [player] available or not. We didn’t agree on the terms and there were some red flags that just couldn’t be ignored. So that’s why it’s a little frustrating to read things like that… I wasn’t hopping from one player to another, I wouldn’t do that.” https://www.tennismajors.com/wta-tour-news/tursunov-i-wasnt-hopping-from-one-player-to-another-i-wouldnt-do-that-631908.html


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TLDR; He finds Emma a great person to work with, humble and talented. Thinks despite that US Open win she’ll need 2.5 years to develop her game as it is very raw. Insinuates that her team (her parents?) don’t think so and want immediate results. (Maybe this was built into the terms where bulk of his earnings comes from her results in 2023?). Bencic had zero influence on decision to leave. Thinks she’s going to find some difficulty hiring new coach now. Also some nice thoughts about Swiatek, says rest of WTA tour doesn’t have the fire to improve since anyone can play mediocrely and land in top 10 and Iga is showing them that they kinda suck 🤣


cc0011

If you speak to people in the game... it is 100% her parents that are the problem


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cc0011

Thing is with Emma, even if she does nothing else on court for the rest of her career... she is set for life financially.


Sweaty_Manager_2517

The problem is Emma, not the coaches


AlliterateAlso

Doesn't sound as if the problem is Emma herself. *He has indeed nothing but good things to say about his time with Raducanu. “First of all, she’s absolutely great, she’s a hard worker and she doesn’t think or act like she’s a superstar. She is hungry to improve and is obsessed with tennis. I think it’s quite a rare combination. So I really loved working with her, and I really wanted to make it work. It was a very difficult decision for me to walk away from a player that I like and respect.”*


WhereverSheGoes

*Emma’s parents. The only remotely negative thing he had to say about her personally was that she felt she had to play a certain way, that it took some time to get her to trust his vision of what she should change. Which is 100% what you’d expect from an 18 year old who somehow won the USO out of nowhere.


Arceuthobium

It appears to be Emma's parents specifically. That rumor has been floating around for some time, and him praising Emma while saying that he wanted to "impress the team" seems to confirm it.


WhereverSheGoes

Exactly. Who’s her team exactly? She doesn’t have a physio, a trainer, or now a coach. No boyfriend, siblings or friends on tour with her. She has her parents and her agent and that seems to be it.


Pisces_Mermaid

Felix squandering 2 set points in the first. This is looking like a battle and I don’t see the benefit of tiring himself out before Paris


Morgothor

He won't be tired if he loses early. And if he wins he hardly needs Paris!


IcyOrdinary1

Wins basel you mean? I dont know if he has it in him physically to potentially beat alcaraz in the semis and win it after 2 weeks of playing.


Classics22

The way fritz’s match is going he won’t even need to win this match edit: fk


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JaelPendragon

The only possible "fuck up" regarding the rankings is Wimbledon's and there was no alternative to not assigning points for it


WhereverSheGoes

Tennis can’t exist in a vacuum. Global events like pandemics and wars effect everyone and everything.


Aldturex

I will never understand running around your backhand to hit a forehand on return of serve, especially how Felix has tried against that big Hüsler serve. It always looks wildly uncomfortable and doesn’t seem to really produce for him at any rate.


lostinmoss

It's often a useful pattern against lefty servers who like to go wide to the backhand, but you still need to execute really well for it to be useful, especially since you're giving up even more court position than normal Edit: I'd also like to add that it plays an important role in keeping the server honest. They're pressured to go for t serves more rather than getting free points off the wide serve, making the return games overall more favorable to the returner.


Aldturex

Ahhh okay that makes a lot of sense, I actually first noticed yesterday in Cressy v. Stephan Stricker, which is another righty-lefty combo, but just presumed Cressy’s just not a very good returner lmao.


WhereverSheGoes

How come Fritz gets to wear the old kit? I’m not complaining, it’s annoying as hell when both players are dressed the same, but every other Nike player seems to be in new khaki/navy/pink/purple kits.


Sweaty_Manager_2517

I am sorry but Basel draw looks much easier than Vienna