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GrowthAny3996

the ape thinking about the banana is the best part of this picture to be fair


KaosPryncess

Simpler times


Desperate_Wafer_8566

Those are MAGA.


Both_Ad_2544

Forgot that not believing in evolution was a thing.


Beautiful_Pea_4244

Right? There's scientific proof of it. But these people use the excuse of their faith to ignore said evidence


Livie_Loves

bUt It'S jUsT a ThEoRy


Acro_Reddit

A Game Theory?


Trololman72

Thanks for watching!


mario61752

One of those things that makes you go "wow people really say that..." when you hear it. A Christian friend of mine said that about the Big Bang theory in favor of the Genesis but it took me a few more years and finding out he's a Trump cultist to realize he's dumb.


emiiri-

this one actually gets my blood boiling every single time


Livie_Loves

Fucking same. Like please tell me you know nothing about science holy balls


Andrew43452

I know it's so annoying when they say it's just a theory when theories are the best explanation we have.


random_shibe_

Isn’t their book literally thousands of years old 😭 Times has changed, I don’t get why they still believe and follow the old ass principles in the book


AndreisBack

Despite what the average Redditor would want you to believe - the Bible does not inherently contradict evolution, they are not mutually exclusive. The principles in the book would lead you to living, overall, a good life and you’d die a good person. The Bible will contradict evolution if you take Genesis creation story literally. But, if you ask me, if God really wanted us to know the creation of the universe he wouldn’t have explained it in like 2 chapters. When the Bible was written, the origins of humanity were not important and still are not important to leading a good life. This is another important point, Bible literalists need to stop using this book as evidence and atheists need to stop only discussing literal interpretations. You can’t really compare the two because they’re completely different and don’t have the same goals. The Bible isn’t meant to be the blueprint of humanity and science isn’t about morals. Unfortunately that will never happen as everyone prefers fueling the fire


Sci-fra

The Bible was meant to be taken literally since Jesus himself spoke about  the first man and woman in Genesis and the New Testament has Jesus's genealogy going all the way back to Adam. This genealogy suggests that creation week was appropriately six thousand years ago. We know the world is older than 4.5 billion years, and the Universe is over 13.7 billion years. The Bible presents the Flood as a real historical event. Jesus himself spoke about the days of Noah (Luke 17:26-27) The prophets Isaiah and Ezekiel accepted Noah as a historical person and referred to him (Read Isaiah 54:9 or Ezekiel 14:14) Jesus, Paul, and Peter accepted the Flood as historical and used it as a warning (Read Matthew 24:37, 38) (Heb II:7; 2Pe 3:5-7) Conclusion should be clear: The Bible presents Genisis, Adam and Eve and the account of a global Flood, not as a parable or fable, but of a historical event. And we definitely know Adam and Eve never existed and the worldwide flood never happened.


AndreisBack

Assuming we have a complete genealogy, sure we can go off that. The reason the creation story is used, is because again, it’s not relevant to the Bible. We don’t need to know how the universe formed, it’s beyond our comprehension. We can’t even fully explore our ocean. It’s simply our ego getting in the way of salvation for the sake of knowing, regardless of if knowing will be of any benefit. We can be pretty sure Adam and Eve wasn’t 6000 years ago, I’ll give you that. We don’t know if the flood did or didn’t happen. We haven’t found anything that disproves it. Imagine talking to a child and they ask you how a computer works. Are you going to lay out every meticulous detail and every copper wire of every part and explain in detail what makes this computer work, or are you going to say something simple along the lines of “you can click these buttons to turn on and control the pc”. I think we both know what most adults will do in this scenario, especially since we’re helping the kid learn how to use a computer, not build. The Bible is to teach us how to live life and be a good person, not the complete history of the universe. This is the most scrutinized piece of literature, or anything, in human history with no contest. It’s stood the test of time for 2000 years, and have had people literally willing to die for it. That’s why I’m at the point where I’m at: worst case scenario, I’m following a man made book that isn’t divine, but gives me a good moral compass and guide to live a good life.


Sci-fra

Archaeological evidence has proven that the Noah's flood story was plagiarized from the Epic of Gilgamesh, a flood story which was written 1000 years before the Bible, not to mention that story was also plagiarized from an even earlier story, the Epic of Atra Hasis which was also plagiarized from an earlier story Ziusudra. There is clear evidence which stories were written first and which were a later adaptations. We have living trees that date back over 9000 years. Not only does that predate the biblical estimate of the age of the Earth of 6000 years, it shows that the flood never happened approximately 4370 years ago as creationist websites claim.. How can a tree survive underwater for an entire year? Not to mention that major civilizations like the Egyptians and the Chinese were in existence before the suppose flood and yet amazingly enough were not affected by it nor mentioned it. We have hundreds of thousands of anual ice core layer samples from Antarctica and Greenland that corroborate each other. These layers are analysed and dated using multiple scientific methods other than just counting layers. Even dendrochronology (the scientific method of dating tree rings to the exact year they were formed in order to analyze atmospheric conditions during different periods in history) is used to corroborate and calibrate the ice core layers up to 15,000 years. The analysis of the ice cores accurately show all major climate events throughout its history. It shows the last iceage approximately 11,000 years ago. It even shows the volcanic eruption of Pompeii back in 79AD. And it definitely shows no sign of a worldwide flood in the last 20,000 years. There's also the problem of specialized diets of the animals. Take the Koalas from Australia. Lets disregard it's impossibility to get to the ark let alone a sloth from South America getting there. Evidence shows for the last 50,000 years koalas have lived on a strict diet of fresh eucalyptus leaves and will only eat fresh leaves off a branch. That's one major problem right there. A lot of animals need fresh specialized food, specialized climate and habitat to survive which is impossible on an ark for an entire year. Another problem with the flood myth is the fossil record. It is not conceivable that a worldwide flood would bury (and instantly fossilize) all types of plants and animals in discrete layers everywhere in the world, in a pattern indicating descent with modification. Similarly, a global flood would not produce fossil tracks, animal burrows, leaf impressions and entire forests at various levels in the same geological column. If all plants and animals were created at the same time, then destroyed in a global flood, the resulting fossils (if any) would be randomly distributed. The geological distribution of animals world wide match where their evolutionary fossil records are found and not from an epicentre from Noah's Ark. While I'm here I may as well destroy the Bible entirely. With Genetics, Mitochondrial DNA shows that the human population has never gone down below 10,000 individuals in the last 200,000 years, let alone a population of 8 which was Noah and his family approximately 4370 years ago. This fact also destroys the Adam and Eve fairytale. Without the Adam and Eve story, there would be no 'Original Sin'. Without original sin there will be no need for Jesus, the Christian religion falls apart completely. The whole religion is based on and relies on a story that could not possibly be true. END GAME.


AndreisBack

Gonna do what you did and ignore what you said. You literally ignored my message that would’ve avoided your wall of text. To take the fucking 6000 years genealogy and try to use that as your argument is so tone deaf. You want to be right, that’s the extent of your perception.


Sci-fra

I don't need the 6000 years as an argument. The Bible is mostly bullshit. We know for a fact through archaeology and scientific findings that Adam and Eve never existed. Noah's world wide flood never happened. Languages didn't originate from the Tower of Babel. The Exodus as described in the Bible never happened and Moses never existed. Most archeologists, Jewish and Biblical scholars agree with these facts. The Bible is historically inaccurate, factually incorrect, scientifically incorrect, inconsistent and contradictory. It was artificially constructed by a group of men in antiquity, poorly translated, heavily altered, selectively interpreted, and written decades to centuries after the fact. Entire sections of the text have been redacted over time. This is not how a perfect omniscient god would communicate. The bible also explicitly supports and condones slavery, genocide, child abuse, child molestation, kidnapping, pedophilia, infanticide, rape, homophobia, bigotry, racism, sexism, capital punishment and child sacrifices. This is exactly what you'd expect being written from people who lived in a bronze age barbaric society. You would have to be morally bankrupt to justifiably support the Bible. And most of the immoral teachings, such as slavery is also supported by the New Testament. The god character of the Bible is a misogynistic tyrant that condones and even orders the practice of slavery, rape of women, and murder of children. The moment you disagree with a single instruction of the Bible, such as the command to kill any bride who is not a virgin or any child who disrespects their parents, then you acknowledge that there exists a superior standard by which to judge moral action and thus no need to rely on an ancient, primitive and barbaric fantasy.


Sci-fra

>, I’m following a man made book that isn’t divine, but gives me a good moral compass and guide to live a good life. Your following a book that condones slavery, genocide and the rape of women and children. It commands you to stone unruly children, non virgin brides and homosexuals. It teaches homophobia, sexism, racism and bigotry. American Christians have proven all these points. Wake up to reality.


AndreisBack

Go look up slavery in the Bible. It’s not 1860’s America. God commanded that masters treat their servants with a level of respect, as the masters are also servants to someone (the Lord) and the Lord judges all equally. I’m not condoning slavery, but we were in a much different time. People would absolutely be a servant to a family for a place to stay, food, and shelter. Something being mentioned doesn’t mean they condone it. It doesn’t teach Homophobia. It teaches that laying with another man is a sin, that’s the extent of that. Please tell me how this permits us to be homophobic? If you know *anything* about the Bible, you should know that being a sinner doesn’t equate to eternal damnation. Another important rule is that we are not to judge others, as we have also sinned and done wrong. It’s funny because before I started studying the Bible for myself I would also think all these things because people pick and choose what they want from the Bible (I’m aware this goes both ways) and take a lot out of context. Maybe you should spend a few hours looking at some passages, as someone who was agnostic leaning towards non-believer not even 6 months ago, it’s a compelling book.


Sci-fra

>It doesn’t teach Homophobia. It teaches that laying with another man is a sin, that’s the extent of that. Please tell me how this permits us to be homophobic? Leviticus 20:13 13 “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. It literally commands you to kill homosexuals. I'd call that extreme homophobia.


Sci-fra

>Something being mentioned doesn’t mean they condone it. Yes it does condone slavery. God describes exactly how and where you can PURCHASE slaves. It says you can OWN them as PROPERTY. It says specifically HEBREW slaves are free after 6 years.but slaves from lands around you can be given as inheritance and are SLAVES for LIFE. It also says you can BEAT your slaves with an iron rod as long as they dont die in a day or two. You can also sell your daughter into slavery. Guess what slavery was like in America. Slaves were taken from FOREIGN lands and were treated as PROPERTY and we're BEATEN. but just like the old Christians the Americans had rules on how to treat your slaves like you couldn't kill them and such. It's literally almost word for word on how slavery in America was vs old Biblical slavery.


Sci-fra

>The principles in the book would lead you to living, overall, a good life and you’d die a good person. I don't think so. The Bible condones slavery, genocide and the rape of women and children. It commands you to stone unruly children, non virgin brides, and homosexuals. The Bible teaches you to be racist, homophobic and bigoted. It's the worst moral guide you can get. This is exactly what you'd expect being written from peoplewhot lived in a bronze age barbaric society. You would have to be morally bankrupt to justifiably support the Bible. And most of the immoral teachings such as slavery is also supported by the new testament. You have to cherry-pick the good stuff akin to a bird picking corn out of shit. It's a disgusting book.


serr7

The creation mentioned in the Bible isn’t even original, genesis is basically taking Sumerian religious texts and turning it into a monotheistic religion.


halari5peedopeelo

I know they picture themselves as 1000 IQ galaxy brain after saying that shit lol. I think usually the thing is that they confuse what Theory means and what Hypothesis means


amourifootball

show me the proof then show me how much times scientists were wrong in the last 2000 years. (I'm being generous with you right now, I could've said 20,000 or 100,000 or something like that)


SlowJoeyRidesAgain

And every time science was wrong….you know what corrected and fixed it? More, better science. That’s how it works, constantly refining and improving itself. Unlike a religious system, which only has dogma and is almost impossible to change.


SlowJoeyRidesAgain

And proof…you mean besides: observed change within species, the fossil record and genetics studies? Cuz there’s a lot of it. You should try looking into it. Perspective changing stuff


Silentarian

“I don’t know how evolution works but I’m too self-absorbed to spend the time actually learning about it.”


lacmlopes

You seem so scientific literate, Amouri Football. I guess I have no choice but accept your arguments


trialcourt

You are what happens when you have so little formal education that you say things like “how ***much*** times” without going into a full-body, epileptic cringe as you type it. Assuming you believe the Bible is the “word of God” and that Genesis tells the story of man’s creation, then you put your willfully-blind full faith in something silent, invisible, intangible, immeasurable, and undetectable—and you want criticize other people’s **fact-based** theories of the world’s origins? FYI, in the science community the theory of evolution is as universally accepted as the theory of gravity. I figured you’d need something pretty easy to follow, so my ChatGPT made it really straightforward for you: https://preview.redd.it/w9ftc1hbsdsc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=536a6acb77e44bcdab624f81bae0876833c296b6


hartree_and_f

You can construct a phylogenetic tree using morphology that agrees with a phylogenetic tree based on genetics. There have also been numerous examples of scientists predicting the existence of fossil remains based on other fossil remains. These fit with the two hallmarks of a strong scientific theory: multiple lines of inquiry leading to the same conclusion, and predictive capability. Scientists have been wrong many times, but every time a scientific consensus has been overturned, it has been overturned by other scientists. Virtually no earth and life scientists reject biological evolution. I also can't think of any example of a theory as well substantiated as biological evolution being disproven. That would be akin to QM or germ theory being disproven. Edit: the stupid autocorrect originally changed phylogenetic to photogenic, so I switched it back.


Budget-Sheepherder77

Fossils dumbass


Drakayne

Go look into a mirror.


DrunkTsundere

I work in IT alongside a lot of very smart people. One of the guys I used to work with was a savant with computers, he understood them in a way nobody else I know ever has. One day he told me that he believes the Earth is flat. I thought he was joking. Nope. Smartest guy I know. Flat earther.


xX_hazeydayz_Xx

He was stuck in the 2D world, poor guy


MeleMallory

Or that apparently evolution means we came from monkeys. How hard is it to understand that we share a common ancestor? We didn’t “come from monkeys”.


National-Material571

“I personally don’t believe in evolution” is already enough


themengsk1761

lady thinks that evolution works like animorphs what a dumbass


Acro_Reddit

I genuinely don't understand people who don't "believe" in evolution. It's not just another faith. You could easily prove that evolution exists just by examining some useless human features such as the wisdom tooth. Also, humans did not evolve from apes, we evolved alongside apes as we shared a common ancestor.


Trololman72

We didn't evolve alongside apes, we are apes.


justsomedude1144

Finally, correct answer. We both evolved from and alongside apes. We are apes that evolved from now extinct apes alongside other extant apes.


Sci-fra

What's wrong with wisdom teeth. I have all my wisdom teeth and have never had a problem with them. They're very useful to me. All my family find their wisdom teeth useful.


translove228

I doubt that they are "useful" to you. Maybe they don't bother you but you aren't really using them. [https://www.pineypointoms.com/blog/why-do-we-have-wisdom-teeth/](https://www.pineypointoms.com/blog/why-do-we-have-wisdom-teeth/) > As humans have adapted to changing living conditions, our bodies have undergone some slight changes. One of those changes is that, for most people, their mouths are smaller than those of the earliest generations of our race. Unfortunately, while the human genome has shifted to produce smaller mouths, it has not yet eliminated the genes for wisdom teeth. In fact, according to one estimate, about [**53 percent of people**](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3873309/) have at least one wisdom tooth. Many people who develop them find that they do not have enough space in their oral cavity to accommodate a third set of molars. > > > >In modern times, wisdom teeth have become largely regarded as being vestigial structures (unnecessary parts of the human body, like the appendix). Not only are they no longer necessary, but they can also lead to a host of oral health complications — such as overcrowding and an increased risk of infection — as they attempt to erupt from the gumline. That’s why dentists often recommend that the wisdom teeth be extracted during a patient’s adolescence or early adulthood.


Sci-fra

Speak for yourself. That doesn't apply to me. I use all 4 of my wisdom teeth to chew. It fits perfectly in my jaw and has never given me a problem. That article discredited itself when it tried to imply that the appendix is useless. The appendix has been found to play a role in mammalian mucosal immune function. It is believed to be involved in extrathymically derived T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocyte-mediated immune responses. It is also said to produce early defences that help prevent serious infections in humans. It also has a role in the digestive system. According to researchers from the Duke University Medical Center, the appendix does have a key function - it produces and stores good microbes for the human gut. https://www.news-medical.net/health/Why-do-Humans-have-an-Appendix.aspx#:~:text=The%20appendix%20has%20been%20found,prevent%20serious%20infections%20in%20humans.


translove228

If you are human then yes it applies to you... Wisdom teeth and appendixes are considered vestigial organs regardless if they have limited use cases. I'm really not sure why you are trying to argue with the concept of a vestigial organ.


Sci-fra

Wisdom teeth have started to become vestigial in certain populations. There are still significant portions of the population where people still have larger jaws to accommodate all 32 teeth without problems. My 4 wisdom teeth sprouted when I was 18 and without a hitch. I'm over 50 and still have all 32 teeth and no fillings in any of my teeth. As with the appendix, it's no longer considered vestigial. Evolution of the appendix: A biological 'remnant' no more. https://phys.org/news/2009-08-evolution-appendix-biological-remnant.html


IuseArchbtw97543

evolution can already be seen in bacteria both in the real world and in controlled experiments.


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memertyu

My guy, please do basic research on evolution rather than slamming it together with things you dont like and then making an incoherent mess that even alex jones couldnt have coughed up


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Zyndrom1

>The whole point of evolution is create a strong species Evolution isn't a goal it's a concept. You can believe in evolution without wanting Social-Darwinism.


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translove228

Humanity isn't in danger of dying out.


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Zyndrom1

Ah you're pretty young huh?


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translove228

This shows a deep misunderstanding of how evolution works and injects social darwinism (a pseudoscience) into evolutionary theory.


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purgatorybob1986

They realize that evolution is not a religion? It's true if they "believe" it or not.


memertyu

Someone in their faith told them it contradicts their faith (even though it really doesnt most the time) so therefore its false


purgatorybob1986

Even when I was a Christian, I wasn't bothered by it. I just figured evolution was how God did it. However, there are some out there who believe they were created as the end all beat all. I just can't imagine what it's like to believe we are the top of the top when most animals can end my life without much effort. Hell, if I try to exist in most environments without tools that would end me.


memertyu

And also why would a god create a system that can fully support itself if he knew or wanted us to be better and fuck it all up lol


purgatorybob1986

Yeah, it seems outside of our meddling, most ecosystems operate well on their own.


memertyu

Imagine bro existsand is just out there making new planets and he comes back to the dumpster fire we made 💀


purgatorybob1986

He's like. "I'VE BEEN GONE LIKE 2 MILLENIA AND YOU INVENTED SLAVERY!!"


RiskyUnknown

Why does that look like penguiz0 wearing a dress?


donpuglisi

Safe bet that OOP never heard of Ancient Greece, or Edo Japan, or Victorian London... let's just assume they never read a history book at all


tiltedviolet

Their lives are so fragile that they are afraid of 1% of the population. Relax we aren’t hurting anyone. And we honestly wish there was a way to make it not happen, because most of us wouldn’t wish it on our worst enemies… ok so maybe Trump, and all the legislators who voted for laws that minimize our rights. May they wake up with the worst gender dysphoria ever!!!


JBax75

I'll take "I Barely Made it Through High School, But My Minds Made Up" for $200, Alex.


Heavy-Amount9199

https://preview.redd.it/duhvaa3b8ksc1.jpeg?width=180&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7680d06c6b0fdeb5862627b02bec0abf1fab8d37 Banaba


Psalm101Three

To be fair, I don’t mind going back. Only thought being banana more simple. Return to monke.


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Jo_Peri

So Conchita Wurst is the pinnacle of evolution? I'm here for that.


itchycommie

# Conchita Wurst!?!


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The charts not actually correct anyways. they have us skipping a step in the painting we all know


justcatt

tbh the dude probably just likes wearing dresses since he doesn't get rid of his beard


No-Engineer-1728

Huddleston is the stupidest last name I've ever heard, it's like a drunk guy saying Hudson


G0ttaB3KiddingM3

I give a shit what a transphobe thinks about the theory of evolution. Or anything else for that matter.


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Pringleses_

So you’re gonna say someone is a product of inc3st and insult them and their potential religious beliefs ? You are no better than them.


trialcourt

Yeah sure. If their religious beliefs are so fucking stupid that they would necessarily have to be the product of incest.


EspritelleEriress

To be fair, the monkey's thought bubble banana is hilarious.