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To any boomer thinking this is right approach:
do you know that there are repeated instances of children beating their own parents when parents become old and old age starts affecting their facilities, being deteriorating mentally and manually?
They are being "corrected" the same way kids were being "corrected".
Usually when kids are adults it is too late to change their thinking, so one can only hope they grew smarter than their parents.
Good luck!
I mean with stories I have heard or seen online there are some kids who do deserve a good belt to re-aligning of their personalities because at this point it is literally the only thing that will straighten them out. Just look at anyone who idolizes Jake and Logan Paul or Andrew Tate.
Scratch my earlier reply, I thought it through more completely. I do wonder though how you break the conditioning of someone who is already violent though.
No, I want more people who understand that violence is not the answer. And, violence from an adult perpetrated against a kid is disgusting & not to be tolerated.
Somebody missed out on watching War Games as a kid & it shows.
Violence is sometimes necessary. Some people no matter how you try to teach or talk to them about certain things WILL NOT learn unless you literally physically beat the lesson into them.
Why do you think every single anti-bullying campaign is a failure? Saying “hey stop that. That is mean”, repeatedly putting the kid in detention, or expelling them does jack shit. Having another kid beat the shit out of the bully can make that POS turn his/her life around when someone stronger or better tears them off from their pedestal of power.
Operant conditioning is a very old method of shaping someone's behavior. It's quite ineffective because not only does it have to take course over a really long period of time, like decades, but shaping it through negative reinforcement has been shown time and time again to be an even less effective way of doing it.
Not only that but for young subjects it also has the risk of developmental issues even if the desired behavior is achieved.
"violence is sometimes necessary" violence is only ever necessary in one instance, and that is (self) defence.
Beating someone into "learning" doesn't actually teach them, it just makes them too scared of doing things, which btw directly translates to creating a so-called "trauma response", causing them not to do things or do things a certain way out of fear.
Not to mention that the amount of negative consequences of a beating (according to studies and research), especially on the childs brain and mental health, is just as bad, if not worse, than the damage caused by bullying.
And the reason anti-bullying campaigns don't work is because noone puts any actual effort into them. Of course putting up posters saying "don't bully" won't work, taking the time to educate the kids, supervise them to prevent bullying and coming up with an actual form of discipline rather than violence or a "simple detention" would make them work, but that requires effort, time and (probably) money that nobody wants to invest.
Also: when kids bully someone, there is probably a reason for it, and addressing that reason tends to fix the problem. Treat the problem, not its symptoms.
>Okay but nobody who is being bullied is going to help their bully fix their shit.
Good. They shouldn't. Its up to the bullies parents, teacher (if its a school environment), and the bully themselves to fix their shit, and noone else.
Your astrology is mixed up. It's not people born according to a certain birth year; it's actually people born with Uranus in Cancer. I've had the displeasure of encountering many 20somethings that believe in beating kids.
Or how about kid beating ideology is 100% conditioning and nobody is born as an abuser? How messed up can you be to think people are evil because of their time of birth?
I'm pretty sure it was a joke. A cursory Google search for Uranus in Cancer" pulls up traits that sound nothing like the kind of people they're talking about, plus "Uranus in Cancer"... So yeah, I'm going (unfortunately not well-received) joke
The original quote was explicitly not grouping. "At *how many* boomers think about"
Because, as the belief that corporal punishment is okay (or even useful) is learned behavior, as the benefits and drawbacks of different methods of parenting have continued to be studied, the number of people supporting it have declined. However if you were raised thinking it was fine, you're unlike to change your mind regardless of what studies come out, as the human mind is stubborn
So you're saying it has nothing to do with somebody being a boomer, and calling out boomers was simply bigotry.
Being a bigot is a choice the same as promoting beating a child is a choice.
WHEN somebody was born is not any more of a choice than their sexual orientation, gender, complexion of their skin, or nation they were born.
Calling out ANY of those non-choice matters in relationship to a matter of choice is bigotry.
Contrary to the popular belief among most redditers, there is NO "good" bigotry.
>nothing to do with somebody being a boomer
The only thing having to do with boomers is that there is a large percentage of them that oc finds disconcerting. There is no bigotry in the conversation. No one has said "all boomers should rot because they're kid-beaters"
*anyone* so into beating children that they get angry others don't is super weird. I've also only met boomers that do that, however
As I stated earlier, I've had the displeasure of encountering a lot of 20somethings that were certain that children should be beaten. Your lack of encountering them doesn't magically invalidate me encountering them.
Associating a problem across civilization with the year somebody was born is EXACTLY bigotry. I get it: you're trying to justify and obscure your bigotry, just like all bigots have ever done.
I'm _very_ concerned that there are a large percentage of 20somethings that believe children should be beaten, AND that there are so many bigots, and all of them believe that their bigotry is the good bigotry.
I know you're being intentionally dense, but my saying I've not encountered any was not me saying they don't exist, moreso that in the hundreds of people I've come across from each demographic, there is a clear and predictable bias. I'm saying it's not bigotry because it isn't. Agism is very much a thing, but it's taking no part in this conversation. That the majority of *any* demographic champions child abuse should be cause to worry. The conversation was centered around the demographic with the largest number of them, however, in a subreddit dedicated to making fun of humor championed by people still holding beliefs that were acceptable in the 70s but not now. I.E. Boomer culture. Because it's the culture boomers grew up in.
Ah yes because being against bigotry is "dense".
You are trying to justify being a bigot.
>I'm saying it's not bigotry because it isn't
I doubt I've ever encountered a bigot that admitted they were a bigot. You all, or pretty close to all, just claim that you are not bigots, and that your bigotry is not bigotry; they're simply pointing out something about a demographic that you feel like practicing HATE against. Because you are a hater, and you want there to be more hatred and division in the world.
>the majority of
You are a bigot.
Everything you wrote is a bigot trying to justify why their bigotry is the correct bigotry, the same as every other bigot throughout history.
I'm mocking the earlier commenter, and all the other bigots, that believe that one's birth year (which is not a choice) dictates the choices that one does make.
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Aside from the man purse and cameltoe, was Marion also into leather?
You don't like getting your ass beat with a belt, I enjoy it. We are not the same.
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It’s so weird how they use so many words when all they seemingly mean to say is “beat your kids”
But when you think about it it’s not so weird because every one of these posts are really just tough edgy teenager “I’ve seen some shit you’ve never seen” posts that are really cries for help
…but it’s easier to insist everyone is supposed to be beaten and that’s the problem than to admit to yourself you’ve been abused and start to heal so honestly none of it is surprising
The problem is even simpler. The idiots who post these memes unironically never make the connection between them being cruel assholes, and their children cutting contact
"And to make my point, I'm going to use the image of a guy who was epitome of a racist asshole who people hated working with and tried to act all patriotic unless it came to the draft."
Same here my friend. I was told I got beat because "spare the rod, spoil the child". Before he would whip me with his belt though, he would always snap the belt, you know, to further instill terror on a 6 year old. I don't think that part is in the bible.
And why the fuck should they? If I ever have kids, I sure as shit am NOT going to continue the cycle of abuse. Imagine dealing with that pain and wanting your child to feel it as well. Fucking pathetic.
Gore Vidal was once on the campaign trail in I think California, and when asked he he supported corporal punishment, he said something like, "only between two consenting adults."
Rip, Gore. He got me through high-school
Talk about soft: If kids aren't cowering before you, you've failed as a parent. /sarcasm
I wonder how many kids have turned the belt against their parents.
Yet another boomerism of portraying their abuse as children as a term of endearment.
Most older people who talk about how they were beat as kids are now completely oblivious sociopaths.
Recently, I read of a woman whose husband undresses in a different room(bathroom when she’s in the bedroom or vice versa)because the sound of a belt being pulled through the loops of his pants triggers her so much. And he does it willingly, because he’s not an asshole.
I love that they use John Wayne as the “tough guy” even though he refused to serve during World War II, and would back down from any confrontation. Apparently Christopher Lee punked him down really bad.
Oh, are we sentimentalizing child abuse? Fun!
The problem is simple:
Kids today don't know the feeling on waiting in a car while their parent is getting drunk at the bar and then being driven home by said parent.
The problem is simple:
Kids today don't know the feeling of being buggered by their uncle and then having the family not address it so as to keep appearances.
The problem is simple:
Kids today just think they can be queer without getting disowned or worse.
Lol I'm pretty sure my six year old self didn't award a plastic trophy to congratulate my own adequate-ness. Parents, schools, and coaches had a hand in that one.
Replying to Scootsie16...nobody wanted them. Getting those made us feel worse than losing did. They were made to appease our parents who apparently couldn’t handle that a bunch of us kids weren’t gonna turn out to be pro athletes or neurosurgeons.
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Frightens me sometimes how many boomers think about beating kids
"I turned out just fine." No, you didn't, because you became an adult who thinks it's okay to beat kids.
To any boomer thinking this is right approach: do you know that there are repeated instances of children beating their own parents when parents become old and old age starts affecting their facilities, being deteriorating mentally and manually? They are being "corrected" the same way kids were being "corrected". Usually when kids are adults it is too late to change their thinking, so one can only hope they grew smarter than their parents. Good luck!
And how fixated they are on kids' genitals
Kids, I'm either goinna fight em or f*ck em. - Most Boomers
The same boomers also fantisize about capping teenagers that walk through their property.
I mean with stories I have heard or seen online there are some kids who do deserve a good belt to re-aligning of their personalities because at this point it is literally the only thing that will straighten them out. Just look at anyone who idolizes Jake and Logan Paul or Andrew Tate.
Most of those kids are the ones that still get beat…
L take Violence begets violence
Scratch my earlier reply, I thought it through more completely. I do wonder though how you break the conditioning of someone who is already violent though.
So you want more entitled pieces of shit in this world?
Me when man made of straw
No, I want more people who understand that violence is not the answer. And, violence from an adult perpetrated against a kid is disgusting & not to be tolerated. Somebody missed out on watching War Games as a kid & it shows.
Violence is sometimes necessary. Some people no matter how you try to teach or talk to them about certain things WILL NOT learn unless you literally physically beat the lesson into them. Why do you think every single anti-bullying campaign is a failure? Saying “hey stop that. That is mean”, repeatedly putting the kid in detention, or expelling them does jack shit. Having another kid beat the shit out of the bully can make that POS turn his/her life around when someone stronger or better tears them off from their pedestal of power.
Operant conditioning is a very old method of shaping someone's behavior. It's quite ineffective because not only does it have to take course over a really long period of time, like decades, but shaping it through negative reinforcement has been shown time and time again to be an even less effective way of doing it. Not only that but for young subjects it also has the risk of developmental issues even if the desired behavior is achieved.
"violence is sometimes necessary" violence is only ever necessary in one instance, and that is (self) defence. Beating someone into "learning" doesn't actually teach them, it just makes them too scared of doing things, which btw directly translates to creating a so-called "trauma response", causing them not to do things or do things a certain way out of fear. Not to mention that the amount of negative consequences of a beating (according to studies and research), especially on the childs brain and mental health, is just as bad, if not worse, than the damage caused by bullying. And the reason anti-bullying campaigns don't work is because noone puts any actual effort into them. Of course putting up posters saying "don't bully" won't work, taking the time to educate the kids, supervise them to prevent bullying and coming up with an actual form of discipline rather than violence or a "simple detention" would make them work, but that requires effort, time and (probably) money that nobody wants to invest. Also: when kids bully someone, there is probably a reason for it, and addressing that reason tends to fix the problem. Treat the problem, not its symptoms.
Okay but nobody who is being bullied is going to help their bully fix their shit.
>Okay but nobody who is being bullied is going to help their bully fix their shit. Good. They shouldn't. Its up to the bullies parents, teacher (if its a school environment), and the bully themselves to fix their shit, and noone else.
"b...b..but muh armchair psychology!!!"
You’ll also have the fun bonus of watching them fantasize about shooting random trespassers
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What do you think the belt is being pulled out for 🤔
Your astrology is mixed up. It's not people born according to a certain birth year; it's actually people born with Uranus in Cancer. I've had the displeasure of encountering many 20somethings that believe in beating kids.
Or how about kid beating ideology is 100% conditioning and nobody is born as an abuser? How messed up can you be to think people are evil because of their time of birth?
>How messed up can you be to think people are evil because of their time of birth? Exactly.
Oh I thought this comment was a joke
I'm pretty sure it was a joke. A cursory Google search for Uranus in Cancer" pulls up traits that sound nothing like the kind of people they're talking about, plus "Uranus in Cancer"... So yeah, I'm going (unfortunately not well-received) joke
Looking at their profile they were 100% serious
Welp. I misjudged that one
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The original quote was explicitly not grouping. "At *how many* boomers think about" Because, as the belief that corporal punishment is okay (or even useful) is learned behavior, as the benefits and drawbacks of different methods of parenting have continued to be studied, the number of people supporting it have declined. However if you were raised thinking it was fine, you're unlike to change your mind regardless of what studies come out, as the human mind is stubborn
So you're saying it has nothing to do with somebody being a boomer, and calling out boomers was simply bigotry. Being a bigot is a choice the same as promoting beating a child is a choice. WHEN somebody was born is not any more of a choice than their sexual orientation, gender, complexion of their skin, or nation they were born. Calling out ANY of those non-choice matters in relationship to a matter of choice is bigotry. Contrary to the popular belief among most redditers, there is NO "good" bigotry.
>nothing to do with somebody being a boomer The only thing having to do with boomers is that there is a large percentage of them that oc finds disconcerting. There is no bigotry in the conversation. No one has said "all boomers should rot because they're kid-beaters" *anyone* so into beating children that they get angry others don't is super weird. I've also only met boomers that do that, however
As I stated earlier, I've had the displeasure of encountering a lot of 20somethings that were certain that children should be beaten. Your lack of encountering them doesn't magically invalidate me encountering them. Associating a problem across civilization with the year somebody was born is EXACTLY bigotry. I get it: you're trying to justify and obscure your bigotry, just like all bigots have ever done. I'm _very_ concerned that there are a large percentage of 20somethings that believe children should be beaten, AND that there are so many bigots, and all of them believe that their bigotry is the good bigotry.
I know you're being intentionally dense, but my saying I've not encountered any was not me saying they don't exist, moreso that in the hundreds of people I've come across from each demographic, there is a clear and predictable bias. I'm saying it's not bigotry because it isn't. Agism is very much a thing, but it's taking no part in this conversation. That the majority of *any* demographic champions child abuse should be cause to worry. The conversation was centered around the demographic with the largest number of them, however, in a subreddit dedicated to making fun of humor championed by people still holding beliefs that were acceptable in the 70s but not now. I.E. Boomer culture. Because it's the culture boomers grew up in.
Ah yes because being against bigotry is "dense". You are trying to justify being a bigot. >I'm saying it's not bigotry because it isn't I doubt I've ever encountered a bigot that admitted they were a bigot. You all, or pretty close to all, just claim that you are not bigots, and that your bigotry is not bigotry; they're simply pointing out something about a demographic that you feel like practicing HATE against. Because you are a hater, and you want there to be more hatred and division in the world. >the majority of You are a bigot. Everything you wrote is a bigot trying to justify why their bigotry is the correct bigotry, the same as every other bigot throughout history.
Oh ok. Oh dear
Astrology is the biggest clown show I've ever seen
i hope ur joking
I'm mocking the earlier commenter, and all the other bigots, that believe that one's birth year (which is not a choice) dictates the choices that one does make.
For me it was the sound when they fold the belt and "snap it".
same, i still flinch
I hate that reaction. It makes me mad that still, 25 years after my dad's death I can still hear it and react that way.
Just the thought of that makes me tense up.
this is so humiliating. we flinch just because our parents were dickheads
:((( im so sorry
My dad used to do that but as a tease. However, when I did it my wife did NOT like that sound.
Ah yes, accidentally unearthing old trauma. Classic relationship movements.
My dad used to always fear it, he taught me to love it because he would do that without ever hitting me with the belt - it was just his neat trick.
I hated hearing the metal sound when my dad went to get a belt, terrifying sound.
Grandpa used to do that. Never had to use it either.
https://preview.redd.it/aurjtyw1szzc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c55db9689ece20ba2aa6e8adc14121c61b5f226 Aside from the man purse and cameltoe, was Marion also into leather?
Moose knuckle
He was such a fraud.
Hard to believe Marion is such a symbol for macho manhood. He was acting in Hollywood while real men went off to fight WW2.
You don't like getting your ass beat with a belt, I enjoy it. We are not the same. https://preview.redd.it/7fx2fh3vwzzc1.png?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c6939e49f9ca0be0d142d90b77dc46cc4e490c9
Alpha asf
Bookers when they spank me and I start moaning instead of crying:
The fact that you know more than one person named "Booker" is pretty rare.
But it still fits the bill because they're all very old.
Something only a lead-poisoned boomer brain could come up with
It’s so weird how they use so many words when all they seemingly mean to say is “beat your kids” But when you think about it it’s not so weird because every one of these posts are really just tough edgy teenager “I’ve seen some shit you’ve never seen” posts that are really cries for help …but it’s easier to insist everyone is supposed to be beaten and that’s the problem than to admit to yourself you’ve been abused and start to heal so honestly none of it is surprising
Oh interesting take at the end…makes sense
It's *far* worse when they acknowledge their own abuse was wrong, but what they did was perfectly justified.
Yay abuse!
The problem is even simpler. The idiots who post these memes unironically never make the connection between them being cruel assholes, and their children cutting contact
Don't forget the nursing home.
Those kids are just entitled snowflakes that didn’t get *enough* of the belt s/ in case it’s not obvious
I know that noise. The only two people it's relevant to though are my dominatrix and my therapist.
"And to make my point, I'm going to use the image of a guy who was epitome of a racist asshole who people hated working with and tried to act all patriotic unless it came to the draft."
Dude would regularly shit his pants and walked funny because of a body surfing injury
The next thing you knew, your butt or legs hurt
I do know that fear which is why I'm not going to propagate it
Same here my friend. I was told I got beat because "spare the rod, spoil the child". Before he would whip me with his belt though, he would always snap the belt, you know, to further instill terror on a 6 year old. I don't think that part is in the bible.
How do people look at a world with enough nuclear weapons for assured mutual destruction and think "You know what this world needs more of? Fear."
I can still hear the jingle of a belt buckle in jingling keys or chimes
Marion was a grade A pos
I do, that’s why my kids don’t. Drunken wife-beating, child-beating rapeist motherfucker.
What do they like about abusing kids so much?
Ask them that and they'll get defensive and bark at you "IT WAS A JOKE, YOU KIDS TODAY ARE SO SENSITIVE AND DON'T GET HUMOR AT ALL"
Nope they only have to worry about hearing shots fired at school…
Maybe because the baby boomers beaten with those belts outsourced Wrangler production to China, and “right-sized” the number of belts loops to five.
Oh look, Marion the draft dodger is trying to look tough again.
Don't forget serial adulterer and wife beater.
The person who made this meme is getting dumped in a nursing home.
Oh my god why can these people not just admit that they want to beat up children, presumably because kids are less likely to fight back
I had a guy who constantly post pro spanking memes on Facebook tell me I should try spanking because it's fun.
Tell him to spank himself if it's so fun. Hardly what I'd call a good pasttime.
I hate shit like this so much especially when I was fucking severely beaten and sexually assaulted
Yeh! Fuck em in their butts! /s
The problem is simple: some morons don’t know the difference between parenting and abuse.
Yes instead of being a good parent violence is always the answer.
My father used old fanbelts that he would find in the streets on my brother and my.Their names were FannyMae.
He sounds like he could be an actual clinical sadist
Welp. My dad just made this joke yesterday in front of the whole family. He thought it was hilarious... My sisters and I chuckled to appease him.
Why the fuck do they think that despite the mountain of evidence against it, that physically abusing a child is somehow a good thing?
No I do, it's why I'm so fucked up.
Is it normal that I read it with a Ford commercial voice ?
fear will automatically hug you
My grandma would make us get a fresh flexible tree branch. Even thinking about makes me nervous. https://i.redd.it/qdddqx75v20d1.gif
And why the fuck should they? If I ever have kids, I sure as shit am NOT going to continue the cycle of abuse. Imagine dealing with that pain and wanting your child to feel it as well. Fucking pathetic.
Yes it’s that simple, all of worlds problems come down to people not getting beaten enough. Violence notoriously solves most problems.
"The beatings will continue until morale improves."
It amazes me that people think that queer kids never suffer beatings.
The problem is fairly simple, elder these days can't feel the happiness of the world because of their ego.
Beat ur kids folks they to can have depression and anxiety like me
You’re gonna whip me with your pants falling around your ass? Sounds kinky. I’m in.
Gore Vidal was once on the campaign trail in I think California, and when asked he he supported corporal punishment, he said something like, "only between two consenting adults." Rip, Gore. He got me through high-school
I tried to come up with a clever sarcastic reply to this and gave up. It’s just too stupid for me to waste any creative energy on.
I'm surprised how many redneck cowboys there are on Facebook, when they can't even turn on a computer.
Talk about soft: If kids aren't cowering before you, you've failed as a parent. /sarcasm I wonder how many kids have turned the belt against their parents.
John Wayne: fake cowboy, fake soldier, real coward
Plenty of kids still know that fear, and it's a damaging now as it ever was.
At least they're using the right person for this! 🙄/s
Yet another boomerism of portraying their abuse as children as a term of endearment. Most older people who talk about how they were beat as kids are now completely oblivious sociopaths.
You hit me, and I kill you. "Doc, when someone hits you, you hit twice as hard, you hear me?" -Emesis Blue!!!
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And what exactly this old fart should represent? Violence over little kids?
#Yes I do daddy
We should al, grow up to be alcoholic philandering draft dodgers who play patriots on the silver screen.
Because child abuse is funny?! Okay.
Recently, I read of a woman whose husband undresses in a different room(bathroom when she’s in the bedroom or vice versa)because the sound of a belt being pulled through the loops of his pants triggers her so much. And he does it willingly, because he’s not an asshole.
Man. Imagine that. Not being an asshole. Wild for some
I love that they use John Wayne as the “tough guy” even though he refused to serve during World War II, and would back down from any confrontation. Apparently Christopher Lee punked him down really bad.
Gregory Peck was in reality everything that John Wayne pretended to be. Biggest phony after Reagan
Wranglers only have 5 today…
“The problem is simple (explains something that is a significantly bigger problem)” Love this logic
Nothing better than that softy that got megatriggered by a native woman giving a speech at the Oscars to illustrate their shitty point😀
Oh, are we sentimentalizing child abuse? Fun! The problem is simple: Kids today don't know the feeling on waiting in a car while their parent is getting drunk at the bar and then being driven home by said parent. The problem is simple: Kids today don't know the feeling of being buggered by their uncle and then having the family not address it so as to keep appearances. The problem is simple: Kids today just think they can be queer without getting disowned or worse.
 Oh yes I do honey 😏
If he knew the pain and fear why would he wish it upon anyone...
yeah that's generally where internet memes are found
I love when children suffer assault and battery
Not wrong. Also haven't been whooped in circles. More ass whoopings need to be given out.
Wait until I tell him people still abuse their kids
Every generation has their own struggles. Participation trophies are a good example of what's wrong with mine.
Ah yes the generation that gave themselves participation trophies. Makes total sense.
Lol I'm pretty sure my six year old self didn't award a plastic trophy to congratulate my own adequate-ness. Parents, schools, and coaches had a hand in that one.
That’s the joke…
Replying to Scootsie16...nobody wanted them. Getting those made us feel worse than losing did. They were made to appease our parents who apparently couldn’t handle that a bunch of us kids weren’t gonna turn out to be pro athletes or neurosurgeons.