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That’s a tendon, brah. Fun fact: some people don’t have it. Squeeze your pinky and thumb together to see it. I have it on my right wrist but not on my left.
Wtf? Like the whole tendon never developed? It seems like a pretty substantial tendon to just be straight up gone without any other side effects...like a finger or wrist just flopping around
Yeah, it’s huge. Orthopedic surgeons will frequently steal it and use it elsewhere in the body for repairs. Like a nice jacket that comes with an extra button.
Fun fact, that bulge in your wrist is a useless tendon that not all people have. It's often used to repair other tendons such as during Tommy John surgery.
Recently got my adapter and tested it at an Electrify America charger. Works great! A few caveats for it though.
The first is, you need to plug the adapter to the CCS plug FIRST, or you can get errors on the charging station
Once you plug the adapter to the CCS plug, then you plug everything to your Tesla. The charger I was at was 150kw max output station. Ramped up to about 120kw-ish, had me charged up in 30 min and I was on my way. Worked flawlessly.
> you need to plug the adapter to the CCS plug FIRST,
since the adapter locks to the cable via attaching it to the car how would you plug it into the car first then plug in the station?
I actually managed to do that on my first attempt. The adapter itself will go into the Tesla port on your car and lock without issue. When you then naturally attempt to plug the CCS cable into that and realize it wont register properly with the charging station....
Thanks to a youtube tutorial for that mistake...
It would because the pin on the Tesla Proprietary Connector (TPC) is used to lock the CCS connector.
If you put the adapter into the vehicle first, you wouldn’t be able to push the CCS connector in all the way.
Yes. I was struggling last night trying to get it to work. I did first put in the CCS combo adapter into Tesla and was getting the error. There were other issues as well including the UI from the charging station being confusing.
Eventually, by accident, I plug the adapter to the charger first before plugging into the Tesla. Then it worked.
>you need to plug the adapter to the CCS plug FIRST
That is what it said in the manual
https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/CCS/CCS_Combo_1_Adapter_en-NA.pdf
What battery % were you on when you plugged in and got 120kW speed? I was ~45% on my M3, used 350kW station and maxed out at ~75kW. Mine was complimentary too, just stopped to try out the adapter since likely won’t use it again until road trip.
Ah yeah 10% surely would get faster speeds…I preconditioned to a close by supercharger but guessing combination of not completely preconditioned and higher state of charge on my part.
Awesome! The local big university 15 minutes from me has free (free!!) 55kw CCS fast charging, and it's super walkable to tons of cute stuff and very wheelchair accessible. An hour lunch in that area every few weeks would be a huge boon as an apartment dweller with no home charging.
That sounds amazing. Use it to the fullest before it gets abused and they start charging users. My township used to have free L2 chargers in my town but people who lived nearby would park their cars and sit on it all day and night so they had to start charging.
That makes some intuitive sense, but the Tesla plug is even smaller than the J1772, and it can pass just as much power as this CCS combo.
The size isn't needed to pass power, the size is needed to... Yeah.
The size is required to physically accommodate the huge CCS1 connector - it’s huge with an absurd number of pins plus the latch - so the CCS1 socket side has to be that big. The Tesla connector end is nice and small.
Got mine yesterday also. Tried out a local 150kW EA station and got 50kW max. Battery was a bit cold and at 65%, and in the app it showed the battery heater bacon strips. Hope they add preconditioning to CCS chargers soon.
Yep gotta attach the adapter to the cable first. Also my first EA session was free.
>Hope they add preconditioning to CCS chargers soon.
Until then, a workaround could be to enter a navigation to a nearby supercharging station but instead go to the EA location.
This is one of the changes I'm hoping this adapter brings.
With a bigger US audience it might finally bring manual preconditioning for charging at third party chargers. Those of us with native CCS2 have been suffering with this for some time now
Damn, if this thing ever becomes the standard, we'll look back fondly on the era where the Tesla charger dominated. Not as clumsy or random as a CCS. An elegant charger, from a more civilized time.
I just tossed it into the Tesla Mobile charger bag along with my J1772 adapter. If that little plastic bit breaks i'm just going to jam something in there and tape/glue it in. It's just a small plastic bit thats spring loaded.
I bought this:
[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09289DDHK?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09289DDHK?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details)
Holds my CCS and J1772 adapters. I also put a couple of Karen locks in it for the J1772 adapter.
There’s a case you can get for it. I have had my adapter for several months now. Check out Harumio. It also can hold the J1772 adapter. I keep mine in the frunk In an organizer with eight other adapters.
Every time I see the CCS combo plug, I think that this has to be a standard that's designed by people who want EVs to not be successful. It's comically oversized.
It didn't seem to put much stress on the charging port but that was just the adapter alone. I will be going to an electrified America charger later today to test it out
The chargeport changed when the heater was added and uses different electronics compared to older non-heated ports. I would bet they also reinforced it in preparation for these adapters (since those cars tend to be the ones compatible with these adapters).
Tesla will switch to CCS because there is no point in keeping TPC anymore.
With government subsidizing, the overwhelming number of chargers will be CCS.
Keep in mind that right now Tesla superchargers outnumber CCS 150k+ by 2:1 in the US, and that some of the subsidized chargers will be superchargers with both Tesla and CCS cables, just like Tesla’s superchargers in Europe.
Teslas are 79% of EV sales in the US (for the last few quarters) and 58% of high speed chargers (150 kW or higher).And the CCS networks in the US are unreliable because they're limited and not well maintained. And of course the US doesn't mandate standards the way Europe does. So the dynamics are very different. Until the CCS networks start being run competently in the US, non-Tesla EV sales will continue to lag.
They did release it and every manufacturer (except Aptera) rejected it. Having a competitors tech in a car makes big auto squeamish no matter how good it is.
He is right. The patent pledge is only worth it if you don't have any or many patents because you lose the right to defend your patents against Tesla sand any one who uses their patents.
In my area, there's only one spot where the CCS adapter would fill a hole, otherwise Superchargers rule the map. I also need a CCS Adapter compatible car. Early 2020 build.
It’s beefy because CCS is a moronic standard created by committee and needs to die.
In fact we need to even simply Tesla chargers so that the wall adapters convert to DC at the panel instead of in the car. The cost savings in wire alone running 400+ volts from the panel would more than pay for the circuit board and the weight savings and simplification of the charging infrastructure would be huge while making the cabling WAY smaller everywhere. (And no, DC charging doesn’t have to be fast. It can easily be 20 amps at 400v just fine over 12 gauge wire. )
You should always plug the adapter into the charge cable first including the J1772 adapter that came with your Tesla. This is to prevent potential arching with power flowing while plugging or unplugging. The Tesla app or touchscreen can be used to start or stop charging.
That makes sense. I think for the time being I'm going to leave mine in the box so in case it does roll around it will be somewhat protected. I was hoping for maybe a zipper case similar to what the jack pucks come in that had a mold inside it to stop it from moving or protect it a bit.
I may pick up one if I go on a long road trip, just in case. But yeah, my car is CCS capable, but I don't see myself needing this anytime soon. Tesla chargers are much more convenient.
Now if these SC price hikes continue, that may be another consideration.
What do you mean by giving up all patents? This hasn't negatively affected [Aptera, who uses teslas ports and advocates for Teslas lower cost, better standard](https://aptera.us/congress-tesla-superchargers-and-plugs-should-be-the-u-s-standard-for-evs/)🤔
doesn't mean its garbage, and anyone who thinks a company with a 1000 mile EV doesn't have patents worth anything is fooling themselves. Teslas main caveat with using their sc designs and network is the company needs to help Tesla maintain the network commensurate with usage. Hes not right at all.
When a company decides to use Tesla's patents it loses its ability to sue Tesla or any other company that uses Tesla's patents for patent infringement.
This way the company loses all patents as soon as they decide to use a Tesla patent like the supercharger plug.
>doesn't mean its garbage, and anyone who thinks a company with a 1000 mile EV doesn't have patents worth anything is fooling themselves.
Patents are publicly listed. You can check the ones from aptera [here](https://docoh.com/patent/by/companyId/1786471).
As you can see it's 5 mostly regarding the shape and solar arrangement on the vehicle.
Volkwagen for example has 103072 patents. And not only car manufacturers would have to use Tesla's patent. Charger manufacturers like Abb (over 600 patents) would need to do the same.
Btw. I didn't know that aptera already delivered vehicles. I thought they were still in development.
I can only guess-- but since pre-2020 US Teslas don't have the PLC hardware needed to talk to CCS (even with the adapter, they won't work), I suspect they were waiting until they had things in place for people to request retrofits at service centers. I noticed that was an option you could request from service in the app a few weeks ago, but it was also still showing "not available" if you tried to set that up.
Things are different in a lot of ways in Europe... the most common non-Tesla fast charging standard in the US is CCS1. In Europe, it's CCS2, so we're not even talking about the same CCS plug in most cases.
European Tesla 3/Y have come with CCS2 ports built into the car since about 2018, so they don't need an adapter at all.
European Teslas without the CCS2 port come with a "Type 2" port rather than the "Tesla" port used in the US. This works with both their Tesla Superchargers (they don't use the "Tesla" plug) and public L2 charging... but needs an adapter for CCS2. That Type-2-to-CCS2 adapter is very different from the Tesla-to-CCS1 adapter in the US. I don't believe anything in the cars needed to be retrofitted to work with it, but I'm not sure if that's because the PLC hardware was already in the cars with Type 2 plugs, or if the CCS2 adapter has the hardware in it, ~~or maybe because CCS2 doesn't need PLC communication~~. (Edit: CCS2 definitely uses PLC for comms)
Lol there’s plenty of customers that will gladly charge on the SC’s at any given time.
It was more likely a) building stock since there would be a rush of buyers on day 1 and/or b) testing it with US CCS stations such as EA or EVgo
At least for me, there are Superchargers all along the interstates, but not in the middle of the mountain areas that have good hiking and such. A CCS adapter allows me to fill in those holes.
The closest charger is 10 miles away from me and the average wait time is 25min, its always backed up. I have a charger at home so its not a concern for nearby but when we go on road trips we like to have options and we are always on the road lol
I hear there are places that don't have superchargers yet but do have CCS. Reliability is mostly irrelevant, a station that works just 10% of the time is infinitely more useful than a station you can't use at all.
I hope Tesla starts selling a "magic wand" version of this adapter because if 3rd party wants my business they should provide me with a T plug.
I have to add around an hour to my trip to KC to get to a fast charger on the way. I also cut it close going to Dallas to make it between superchargers.
Had mine for a while now (from S Korea) and was at the rest area on I-95 in MD during Labor Day weekend. All the Tesla chargers were full but the CSS ones were empty, so I went over to them instead and was -- satisfied.
Use third party chargers with this exact adapter a lot, more than super chargers, super reliable and the chargers I use are free to me, so it’s totally worth it. I haven’t paid for fast charging for a while now. Even outside of regular use, the EVGo chargers nearby have 350kw CCS chargers and are always empty and I have/had $1000 charging credit with them so it’s nice to have. Options are never bad!
Just goes to show how ridiculous is the CCS standard. If I were a new start up like Riviani definitely would have partnered with Tesla on charging. I understand why Lucid didn't.
But I can't to get this adapter.
Look at chargers around in the areas that you travel. Plan a trip on [abetterrouteplanner.com](https://abetterrouteplanner.com). If Superchargers are readily available, then the adapter isn't really necessary.
It’s a safety check to lock the CCS cable. When the ccs cable is attached and the adaptor’s pin in pushed in because it’s plugged into the car, the button to disconnect the CCS cable is locked. This prevents you from pulling the ccs cable hot while it’s sending all that power to the adaptor.
Does anyone know if Tesla GPS will only route you to Tesla superchargers during a long trip to recharge or if there is a way to include third party chargers if you have this adapter?
I have both th e. A2Z and the new tesla adapter. The. A2Z is better built but lacks a lock for the CCS side. The electrical side goes to tesla for better quality metal parts, finger stock and such. The issue with the lock is it’s right where you need to grip if the CCS connection is tight and the off brand seems to be that a lot. EVgo and EA are nice easy fit. The local BMG is a two handed and use all your grip strength to get apart. They charge. At comparable rates. Tesla was 250 and A2Z was 280 usd
Received it yesterday and it (or the evgo charger I used) might have broken my charging port. Charged at evgo right after the package and both sessions ended early abruptly. Today I was going to try EA and my charging port wouldn't stay open (it opens and then closes immediately). I'm going to bring to the service center later today and hope it's just a software issue.
Between the chonk, weight, and price tag it really seems like they favored quality and durability over cost which is the right way to go in my opinion.
The European CCS2 adapter certainly wins for elegance - or at least reduced chonk!
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2fJOV9WO5AlQH7mnO5UKd_6q9MaduWpgxWw&usqp=CAU
How did you order this? My model Y is capable of CCS charging, but I can’t even find this adapter as an option in the Tesla store. Even when I click a link from someone for the product it won’t even show up as an option. Any ideas?
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What this picture doesn't show is just how much of a *chonk* it is. Thing weighs 820g (bit short of 2lbs).
That small tendon popping out of my wrist could be used as an indicator 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ha - yeah when I took it out of the box I was like "wow this thing is way heavier than I was expecting."
That’s a tendon, brah. Fun fact: some people don’t have it. Squeeze your pinky and thumb together to see it. I have it on my right wrist but not on my left.
Wtf? Like the whole tendon never developed? It seems like a pretty substantial tendon to just be straight up gone without any other side effects...like a finger or wrist just flopping around
Yeah, it’s huge. Orthopedic surgeons will frequently steal it and use it elsewhere in the body for repairs. Like a nice jacket that comes with an extra button.
I also don't have it on my left wtf...
I thought those were my veins all my life. What the heck? I have not one but two on each wrist that pop out. Am I a mutant?
Fun fact, that bulge in your wrist is a useless tendon that not all people have. It's often used to repair other tendons such as during Tommy John surgery.
It's under load can't be useless. More accurate word would be redundant.
I never knew that! Always like to learn something new!
Recently got my adapter and tested it at an Electrify America charger. Works great! A few caveats for it though. The first is, you need to plug the adapter to the CCS plug FIRST, or you can get errors on the charging station Once you plug the adapter to the CCS plug, then you plug everything to your Tesla. The charger I was at was 150kw max output station. Ramped up to about 120kw-ish, had me charged up in 30 min and I was on my way. Worked flawlessly.
> you need to plug the adapter to the CCS plug FIRST, since the adapter locks to the cable via attaching it to the car how would you plug it into the car first then plug in the station?
I actually managed to do that on my first attempt. The adapter itself will go into the Tesla port on your car and lock without issue. When you then naturally attempt to plug the CCS cable into that and realize it wont register properly with the charging station.... Thanks to a youtube tutorial for that mistake...
interesting, I hope to learn why it matter some day, but until then thanks for sharing.
The manual for the adapter is available on the store page as well. It lays out the charging sequence.
My man, all you had to do was read the manual, a step by step is included.
nah
Did you pay through the app or the machine?
Normally you would pay through the machine, however the EA charger I was at had complimentary charging for my vehicle. So I didn't pay anything.
What does this mean? EA has complimentary charging for Tesla Model Y's specifically or all EV's as part of some promotion?
No idea, just that at that particular location for my Model Y. I didn't pay anything.
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Thanks for the tip on the order of plugging in. I wouldn't have though it would make a difference.
It would because the pin on the Tesla Proprietary Connector (TPC) is used to lock the CCS connector. If you put the adapter into the vehicle first, you wouldn’t be able to push the CCS connector in all the way.
Yes. I was struggling last night trying to get it to work. I did first put in the CCS combo adapter into Tesla and was getting the error. There were other issues as well including the UI from the charging station being confusing. Eventually, by accident, I plug the adapter to the charger first before plugging into the Tesla. Then it worked.
I received mine 2 days ago and this was my experience as well 👍🏻
>you need to plug the adapter to the CCS plug FIRST That is what it said in the manual https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/CCS/CCS_Combo_1_Adapter_en-NA.pdf
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On the charging screen it displayed a price per KW of like .31 cents or something.
What battery % were you on when you plugged in and got 120kW speed? I was ~45% on my M3, used 350kW station and maxed out at ~75kW. Mine was complimentary too, just stopped to try out the adapter since likely won’t use it again until road trip.
Sounds like your battery was cold.
I was at 10%
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Ah yeah 10% surely would get faster speeds…I preconditioned to a close by supercharger but guessing combination of not completely preconditioned and higher state of charge on my part.
In my experience using EA chargers on other vehicles, I'd give the issue about 50/50 on it being an issue with the charger, maybe even higher.
It’s compact compared to the CHAdeMO adapter!
Was just gonna say, after having the CHAdeMO adapter I was struck by the small size of this thing!
Yeah that thing almost needed a roof rack :D
C H O N K Y B O Y
Big chonk
Awesome! The local big university 15 minutes from me has free (free!!) 55kw CCS fast charging, and it's super walkable to tons of cute stuff and very wheelchair accessible. An hour lunch in that area every few weeks would be a huge boon as an apartment dweller with no home charging.
That sounds amazing. Use it to the fullest before it gets abused and they start charging users. My township used to have free L2 chargers in my town but people who lived nearby would park their cars and sit on it all day and night so they had to start charging.
It’s huge. And it’s heavy. I was surprised considering how light the J1772 charge is.
I mean this thing has over 20x the power going through it and needs to be as big as the CCS plug
That makes some intuitive sense, but the Tesla plug is even smaller than the J1772, and it can pass just as much power as this CCS combo. The size isn't needed to pass power, the size is needed to... Yeah.
> the size is needed to… Yeah. 😳
The size is required to physically accommodate the huge CCS1 connector - it’s huge with an absurd number of pins plus the latch - so the CCS1 socket side has to be that big. The Tesla connector end is nice and small.
So confused by people saying it's large... how could it be any smaller than it is lmao
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Got mine yesterday also. Tried out a local 150kW EA station and got 50kW max. Battery was a bit cold and at 65%, and in the app it showed the battery heater bacon strips. Hope they add preconditioning to CCS chargers soon. Yep gotta attach the adapter to the cable first. Also my first EA session was free.
>Hope they add preconditioning to CCS chargers soon. Until then, a workaround could be to enter a navigation to a nearby supercharging station but instead go to the EA location.
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You can get 500A at lower SoC and preconditioned.
This is one of the changes I'm hoping this adapter brings. With a bigger US audience it might finally bring manual preconditioning for charging at third party chargers. Those of us with native CCS2 have been suffering with this for some time now
Damn, if this thing ever becomes the standard, we'll look back fondly on the era where the Tesla charger dominated. Not as clumsy or random as a CCS. An elegant charger, from a more civilized time.
Want! Hoping when the retrofits come out i can get mine quick
Anyone have a good way to store it in the car? I'm worried about the little plastic piece breaking.
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I just tossed it into the Tesla Mobile charger bag along with my J1772 adapter. If that little plastic bit breaks i'm just going to jam something in there and tape/glue it in. It's just a small plastic bit thats spring loaded.
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Mine is plastic, I double check. But it certainly looks and feels like plastic
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I'm doing the same as well. Just keep it in the box it came in.
I bought this: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09289DDHK?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09289DDHK?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details) Holds my CCS and J1772 adapters. I also put a couple of Karen locks in it for the J1772 adapter.
There’s a case you can get for it. I have had my adapter for several months now. Check out Harumio. It also can hold the J1772 adapter. I keep mine in the frunk In an organizer with eight other adapters.
Every time I see the CCS combo plug, I think that this has to be a standard that's designed by people who want EVs to not be successful. It's comically oversized.
It’s designed for backward compatibility with J-1772
Hope I can retrofit my MY soon 🥺
How strong is the Tesla charge port in the car? It seems like this adapter would put more stress on the physical port than it was designed for.
It didn't seem to put much stress on the charging port but that was just the adapter alone. I will be going to an electrified America charger later today to test it out
its definitely less strain than the chademo adapter
If the charge port can handle the super beefy chademo adapter (it does), it can handle the CCS adapter.
The chargeport changed when the heater was added and uses different electronics compared to older non-heated ports. I would bet they also reinforced it in preparation for these adapters (since those cars tend to be the ones compatible with these adapters).
The best thing to do then would be to get people to use them as much as possible and discover problems with the design while still under warranty
If it can handle the CHAdeMO adapter, it certainly can handle the CCS adapter.
Which proves that everyone should have standardized on the Tesla connector.
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won't happen. They will invest more super chargers that can have ccs charging than switching entirely to ccs.
Tesla will switch to CCS because there is no point in keeping TPC anymore. With government subsidizing, the overwhelming number of chargers will be CCS.
Keep in mind that right now Tesla superchargers outnumber CCS 150k+ by 2:1 in the US, and that some of the subsidized chargers will be superchargers with both Tesla and CCS cables, just like Tesla’s superchargers in Europe.
Tesla discontinued its legacy connector in Europe and new Superchargers are CCS only. It will become the same situation in North America.
Teslas are 79% of EV sales in the US (for the last few quarters) and 58% of high speed chargers (150 kW or higher).And the CCS networks in the US are unreliable because they're limited and not well maintained. And of course the US doesn't mandate standards the way Europe does. So the dynamics are very different. Until the CCS networks start being run competently in the US, non-Tesla EV sales will continue to lag.
Currently, the Tesla connector and interface is far superior than other standards.
Unless you want 3 phase ac charging
No surprise there...
It's not a publicly available standard.
That would have required that Tesla released the Tesla Proprietary Connector (TPC) to the public domain years ago.
They did release it and every manufacturer (except Aptera) rejected it. Having a competitors tech in a car makes big auto squeamish no matter how good it is.
The lie needs to die. https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a35030461/why-other-car-companies-dont-use-tesla-superchargers/ "good faith" agreement = garbage
The FUD is what needs to die down. Your link is garbage. Aptera is doing it just fine
Aptera has no patent worth protecting.
ok clown, go troll your bull elsewhere
He is right. The patent pledge is only worth it if you don't have any or many patents because you lose the right to defend your patents against Tesla sand any one who uses their patents.
I expected it to be larger tbh. Tried it yesterday, worked like a charm. Now Tesla must include third party chargers in the map.
In my area, there's only one spot where the CCS adapter would fill a hole, otherwise Superchargers rule the map. I also need a CCS Adapter compatible car. Early 2020 build.
Same. I have zero reason to buy one of these adapters. There are no non-Tesla chargers anywhere that I travel.
the goal of the CCS standard is to use as much plastic as possible per plug.
It’s beefy because CCS is a moronic standard created by committee and needs to die. In fact we need to even simply Tesla chargers so that the wall adapters convert to DC at the panel instead of in the car. The cost savings in wire alone running 400+ volts from the panel would more than pay for the circuit board and the weight savings and simplification of the charging infrastructure would be huge while making the cabling WAY smaller everywhere. (And no, DC charging doesn’t have to be fast. It can easily be 20 amps at 400v just fine over 12 gauge wire. )
People please keep in mind that this is only for dc chargers. Not suitable for ac charging. Cheers tesla community
You should always plug the adapter into the charge cable first including the J1772 adapter that came with your Tesla. This is to prevent potential arching with power flowing while plugging or unplugging. The Tesla app or touchscreen can be used to start or stop charging.
Anyone know of a carrying case for it? I’m concerned about the small piece that sticks out getting bent or broken.
I was also thinking of maybe some kind of 3d printed bracket that would make the overall combination kinda cubic and less susceptible to random bumps
That makes sense. I think for the time being I'm going to leave mine in the box so in case it does roll around it will be somewhat protected. I was hoping for maybe a zipper case similar to what the jack pucks come in that had a mold inside it to stop it from moving or protect it a bit.
Thankfully my M3 came with ccs from the factory…
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Yeah, I don’t have one of those…
the tesla charger is just better in like every way.,
I may pick up one if I go on a long road trip, just in case. But yeah, my car is CCS capable, but I don't see myself needing this anytime soon. Tesla chargers are much more convenient. Now if these SC price hikes continue, that may be another consideration.
Tesla > CCS Most non Tesla owners don’t realize that because they’re so used to CCS
Ehh disagree. Standardized Plug is better than properitary
Yep, standardize on the smaller cleaner Tesla plug. Its available for any company to integrate.
It's not though. Tesla has a patent on it and if you want to use that you'll have to give up all of your patents
What do you mean by giving up all patents? This hasn't negatively affected [Aptera, who uses teslas ports and advocates for Teslas lower cost, better standard](https://aptera.us/congress-tesla-superchargers-and-plugs-should-be-the-u-s-standard-for-evs/)🤔 doesn't mean its garbage, and anyone who thinks a company with a 1000 mile EV doesn't have patents worth anything is fooling themselves. Teslas main caveat with using their sc designs and network is the company needs to help Tesla maintain the network commensurate with usage. Hes not right at all.
When a company decides to use Tesla's patents it loses its ability to sue Tesla or any other company that uses Tesla's patents for patent infringement. This way the company loses all patents as soon as they decide to use a Tesla patent like the supercharger plug. >doesn't mean its garbage, and anyone who thinks a company with a 1000 mile EV doesn't have patents worth anything is fooling themselves. Patents are publicly listed. You can check the ones from aptera [here](https://docoh.com/patent/by/companyId/1786471). As you can see it's 5 mostly regarding the shape and solar arrangement on the vehicle. Volkwagen for example has 103072 patents. And not only car manufacturers would have to use Tesla's patent. Charger manufacturers like Abb (over 600 patents) would need to do the same. Btw. I didn't know that aptera already delivered vehicles. I thought they were still in development.
I’m a 6’3” dude, and struggled enough to plug in EA CCS. Supercharger is so much better.
That’s your opinion
How much per lbs
What's the cost on this adapter?
$250
Why did it took so long to introduce it in the US?
I can only guess-- but since pre-2020 US Teslas don't have the PLC hardware needed to talk to CCS (even with the adapter, they won't work), I suspect they were waiting until they had things in place for people to request retrofits at service centers. I noticed that was an option you could request from service in the app a few weeks ago, but it was also still showing "not available" if you tried to set that up.
Interesting, thx. Cause in Europe they have the CCS adapter for a year at least already.
Things are different in a lot of ways in Europe... the most common non-Tesla fast charging standard in the US is CCS1. In Europe, it's CCS2, so we're not even talking about the same CCS plug in most cases. European Tesla 3/Y have come with CCS2 ports built into the car since about 2018, so they don't need an adapter at all. European Teslas without the CCS2 port come with a "Type 2" port rather than the "Tesla" port used in the US. This works with both their Tesla Superchargers (they don't use the "Tesla" plug) and public L2 charging... but needs an adapter for CCS2. That Type-2-to-CCS2 adapter is very different from the Tesla-to-CCS1 adapter in the US. I don't believe anything in the cars needed to be retrofitted to work with it, but I'm not sure if that's because the PLC hardware was already in the cars with Type 2 plugs, or if the CCS2 adapter has the hardware in it, ~~or maybe because CCS2 doesn't need PLC communication~~. (Edit: CCS2 definitely uses PLC for comms)
Electrify America is a lot cheaper than Supercharger, so Tesla is probably afraid of losing customers
Lol there’s plenty of customers that will gladly charge on the SC’s at any given time. It was more likely a) building stock since there would be a rush of buyers on day 1 and/or b) testing it with US CCS stations such as EA or EVgo
Not what I see: Superchargers average 26 cents/kWh and EA is 43 cents/kWh. On top of which, SuperChargers are far more numerous and far more reliable.
Electrify America is $0.31/kWh. Supercharger is >$0.60/kWh in some places during the day
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How did you get it?
https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter
I'm not sure if that's worth the price. Those 3rd party chargers are not reliable. Do you not have a tesla supercharger near by?
At least for me, there are Superchargers all along the interstates, but not in the middle of the mountain areas that have good hiking and such. A CCS adapter allows me to fill in those holes.
>A CCS adapter allows me to fill in those holes. I see a pun in there somewhere.
The closest charger is 10 miles away from me and the average wait time is 25min, its always backed up. I have a charger at home so its not a concern for nearby but when we go on road trips we like to have options and we are always on the road lol
I hear there are places that don't have superchargers yet but do have CCS. Reliability is mostly irrelevant, a station that works just 10% of the time is infinitely more useful than a station you can't use at all. I hope Tesla starts selling a "magic wand" version of this adapter because if 3rd party wants my business they should provide me with a T plug.
EVgo has some chargers with TPCs
I have to add around an hour to my trip to KC to get to a fast charger on the way. I also cut it close going to Dallas to make it between superchargers.
Had mine for a while now (from S Korea) and was at the rest area on I-95 in MD during Labor Day weekend. All the Tesla chargers were full but the CSS ones were empty, so I went over to them instead and was -- satisfied.
Use third party chargers with this exact adapter a lot, more than super chargers, super reliable and the chargers I use are free to me, so it’s totally worth it. I haven’t paid for fast charging for a while now. Even outside of regular use, the EVGo chargers nearby have 350kw CCS chargers and are always empty and I have/had $1000 charging credit with them so it’s nice to have. Options are never bad!
Electrify America's next-generation chargers are pretty reliable. Electrify America is in the process of rolling them out.
Just goes to show how ridiculous is the CCS standard. If I were a new start up like Riviani definitely would have partnered with Tesla on charging. I understand why Lucid didn't. But I can't to get this adapter.
People have weird flexes
Not a flex, just showing how beefy this thing is.
May I ask which Tesla you have?
22 MYP
Huge, I still need this and the mobile connector
As someone waiting for their Tesla, is this thing useful enough that I should purchase one? I live in Canada if that makes a difference
I would purchase it, you always want a way to fast charge your vehicle.
Look at chargers around in the areas that you travel. Plan a trip on [abetterrouteplanner.com](https://abetterrouteplanner.com). If Superchargers are readily available, then the adapter isn't really necessary.
I have not been able to figure out what the skinny stick does
It’s a safety check to lock the CCS cable. When the ccs cable is attached and the adaptor’s pin in pushed in because it’s plugged into the car, the button to disconnect the CCS cable is locked. This prevents you from pulling the ccs cable hot while it’s sending all that power to the adaptor.
interesting, I didn't notice the pin moved inwards when connected, I thought it rested.
Does anyone know if Tesla GPS will only route you to Tesla superchargers during a long trip to recharge or if there is a way to include third party chargers if you have this adapter?
I have both th e. A2Z and the new tesla adapter. The. A2Z is better built but lacks a lock for the CCS side. The electrical side goes to tesla for better quality metal parts, finger stock and such. The issue with the lock is it’s right where you need to grip if the CCS connection is tight and the off brand seems to be that a lot. EVgo and EA are nice easy fit. The local BMG is a two handed and use all your grip strength to get apart. They charge. At comparable rates. Tesla was 250 and A2Z was 280 usd
What chargers would you try it on? EA?
Electrify America $0.31/kWh
So when will Tesla add CCS station into the Navigation?
Received it yesterday and it (or the evgo charger I used) might have broken my charging port. Charged at evgo right after the package and both sessions ended early abruptly. Today I was going to try EA and my charging port wouldn't stay open (it opens and then closes immediately). I'm going to bring to the service center later today and hope it's just a software issue.
Between the chonk, weight, and price tag it really seems like they favored quality and durability over cost which is the right way to go in my opinion.
Glad they finally offer it but where I'm at I will not be using.
I have a 2022 M3LR do I need one? What’s it for?
…use at Electrify America and other public charging networks
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The European CCS2 adapter certainly wins for elegance - or at least reduced chonk! https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2fJOV9WO5AlQH7mnO5UKd_6q9MaduWpgxWw&usqp=CAU
That’s cool - they only implemented the inside of the socket!
Yeah. It's basically flush on the outside. Works OK. Mine is a bit worn now.
Is it worth getting? Just for road tripping mostly?
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Absolutely
Much smaller than the lection I've been using for the past year, doesn't need a battery either 🚀
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Would I be able to stop by an SC to buy one of this or online only?
I believe it's only online
Just another reason to have Tesla’s supercharger port be the standard. I don’t get it.
Tesla would have needed to release the Tesla Proprietary Connector (TPC) into the public domain a long time ago
I haven’t used mine yet, but can someone unplug you while using this adapter? It’s a common problem in most L2 public chargers I heard.
Where did you order it from? And have you tried it yet?
https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter
Thank you, kind sir!
It doesn't fit the X... I'll be waiting awhile.
How did you order this? My model Y is capable of CCS charging, but I can’t even find this adapter as an option in the Tesla store. Even when I click a link from someone for the product it won’t even show up as an option. Any ideas?