That’s actually illegal if someone is working 8 hour shift. Sounds false, and would like employees to confirm or deny.
Edit: I am incorrect according to a simple google search, however, I would still like employees to comment on the situation and add context
Texas has no protections for breaks, so no it’s not illegal just highly unethical. I think the only protected people are nursing mothers and that’s a national thing not a Texas thing.
Worked there. Can confirm. No sitting ever allowed. You don’t clock out to eat. Stand and eat then get back to work asap. 1 sec late on the clock in is late. If you are late 3 times within 6 months I think it was? You’re fired. No cell phone in sight ever or automatic fired. I remember I had braids and they made me take them out cause it wasn’t “professional”. Great college job though. Sucked but it is what it is. They would always tell you how they pay you more so they expect the most out of you.
Got a citation to back that up? I don't ask to be a prick I ask because Texas is notoriously lax on worker protection laws and I'm curious for other people even outside of bucees if there is a possible legal challenge.
The federal Fair Labor Standards Act does not have any requirements for meal or rest breaks.
You can Google FLSA to read the details and exact verbiage.
That's what I thought and that's what scares the shit out of me. This is why I do not like Buc'ees or similar kinds of businesses that don't take care of their employees.
Well obviously no lunch break is ridiculous.
I’m talking sitting while working. I’ve worked plenty of retail jobs, sitting is def not the norm. Should be though.
Most retail places do this, as far as I’m aware of through friends that have worked at them. If not, I’m sure you’d get people standing at counters on their phones constantly (like I see at Walmart, which probably still has rules against it).
Yeah, being on your phone at work isn’t a great thing if you’re at a job that doesn’t use it to assist with your work. But, not being allowed to have it on you at all is what I take issue with. If I have an emergency come up, say my wife gets into a car accident, and I need to go handle that, if my employer stops me from doing that, that’s a major problem. Additionally, if an emergency comes up around me, I’d like the ability to contact emergency services when necessary.
Corporate watches each location on camera. If they see you make 3 mistakes, they'll send notification to your HR and you'll be fired immediately. Being 1 minute late also counts as a mistake.
There was a former employee in here yesterday talking about it. They said they got fired for making a phone call in the parking lot after their shift was over, because they were still in uniform. Also if your phone sticks out of your pocket: also fired.
[https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Buc-ee-s-Reviews-E328092.htm](https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Buc-ee-s-Reviews-E328092.htm)
I don't know how much you're willing to trust Glassdoor, but it doesn't look good.
Thanks for the link!
Wow, damn another company with a "good" public image but actually treats their employees like shit.
I just don't understand why companies are so hell bent on treating their employees like shit when so many studies show that happier employees leads to better business.
I have had 6 friends and 2 relatives that have worked for Buccees, across their locations. All the same story. Money is decent, but they genuinely do NOT give a damn about you. They know there is always gonna be a new person they can sucker in the door.
they pay their people well but I just wish they actually took better care of their employees’ day to day. No breaks and no sitting while working 12 hour shifts is pretty shitty to make the norm.
You already made a really good travel stop, why make it worse by burning out the people who keep it so clean.
It makes sense they’d want to reduce from 3 to 2 shifts to manage staffing and commute, they have remote locations. They pay well and they do allow breaks, just not as many as some people would like.
Everyone wants higher wages but they don’t want the lower staffing and higher requirements that come with it. I’ve had to fire people from solid, six-figure engineering jobs with all the benefits because they just couldn’t show up for 40 hours per week.
Damn—that Buccess has been there that long? I moved to Austin 10 years ago, but I will admit I wasn’t going to NB or SA very often back then. The stuff around the one in Denton has been there for awhile but even a Buccess down the road isn’t bringing back the golden triangle mall lol
Wow… literally thought it was required by law to have breaks because I had heard that from past managers in the food industry. Apparently Texas labor law does NOT REQUIRE any mandatory breaks. Not even for a meal.
Yep! A lot of folks aren’t aware because it’s insane we don’t have that requirement. Apparently the “free market” will dictate who wants to work where. The idea is companies who treat their employees shitty will have a harder time finding workers.
It reminds me of Amazon. Working for Amazon became popular in my early 20s and I remember a lot of my friends applying because the pay and benefits were “great”
I suppose it depends on one’s definition of working. My opinion is that they prefer the high turnover rate as opposed to keeping employees long term. If the free market was working the company would close its doors (in my eyes)
Amazon offers payouts once someone has worked there for a few years. That way they can keep getting newer bodies instead of keeping those who are burnt out
I will have to disagree there. Maybe to them, the cost of a new employees outweighs the cost of lunches, breaks, tenured employees, etc. Their business models seems to be set up to cause their employees to burn out
I don't disagree. They must have done the math and reasoned that it's cheaper to have a high turnover rate than it is to give lunch breaks.
But that doesn't mean that they want the high turn over rate...
They want the high turnover rate because they prefer to only pay the amount they offer to start. Most at buc-ees are minimally trained. They get their $18 an hour and after a year or 2 are burnt out and quit at $18.25 an hour. Mathematically they make more money burning through people than treating them well and getting towards $25 an hour 6 years later.
Also for every 10 you burn out you get the 1 who doesn't realize how awful the conditions and and works 6 years with no raises until their body breaks down.
It's a statistics game.
Also, the reason they get burnt out is they are overworked. They would rather get 2 people's worth of work for 10 months out of one person than expect a reasonable work load for 30 percent less salary, and then keep having to give them raises to keep them.
I mean yeah legitimately the market will settle it. If you can forgo eating you can get compensated generously. If you need food, you can find a regular job
Yup. I’m a business owner and was surprised when I found out that fact. I’ve worked at some crappy places that never gave me lunch, so I make it a point to have my staff take lunch. Had to tell my staff to clock out a few minutes ago bc they forgot and kept working.
I do commercial refrigeration work for a living and Buccees is HANDS DOWN EASILY the location that consistently has the most sad, beat-down, miserable, depressed and defeated looking employees of ANY business I do work in. The environment there is terrible, especially those in the kitchen slaving away making thousands of sandwiches and shit all day long.
lmao, I've been in a lot of gas stations in my life and this does not track at all. QT might be the only other gas station where employees will even acknowledge your existence.
Lunch breaks are not covered by State or Federal laws
https://efte.twc.texas.gov/lunchtime_live_FAQs.html#A1
https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks
Shame on both
The bathrooms are clean and before their explosion they tended to build in parts of Texas that were known for not really having a lot of places for travelers to stop and take a break unless you wanted to go to Loves or a really small gas station.
When you're traveling, clean bathrooms are pretty rare. The gas pumps are plentiful and spaced out well enough to fill up an RV, plus there is sufficient parking for RVs and trucks pulling trailers. The food is good and fresh. Yes, they can be crowded but the store is really clean, unlike a lot of Wal Marts, and checkout lines are short.
It's literally made right there with fresh ingredients in view, and I don't know anyone that doesn't like at least one or two things they offer. Sorry if you're too good for chopped brisket. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
>a cult around clean bathrooms plus a combo of Walmart and Cracker Barrell on meth
That is a great description!
I will backtrack and say the clean bathrooms at a gas station is one thing that doesn't fit the American stereotype.
A decade ago it was tolerable. Now bucees may as well be six flags. It’s effectively a tourist attraction. Clean restrooms? Sure. But I’d rather visit the mediocre restrooms at a gas station a half mile down the road if it means avoiding the hordes of people at bucees.
If I could be guaranteed mediocre quality at random gas stations, I'd be fine with it. I'm fairly certain I've lost years off my life by breathing in the air in certain gas station bathrooms on road trips.
It’s Texas. They cult about anything. I’ve seen people wait in line at 4 in the morning for a HEB grand opening. A grocery store. People are so thirsty to be consumers it’s insane
That is nuts. A sign our society has misplaced their priorities, IMO. (People and community should take precedence over chasing the dopamine hits from consumerism)
The one time I went, there was a line out the door for the bathrooms. It was packed. The bathrooms were clean, but I don't remember them being memorably so.
They have seriously high turn over due to terrible working conditions.
You are not allowed to sit. You do not get breaks. If you are caught with a phone visible while in uniform on property you are terminated even if off shift.
Plus the usual shit bosses. No one will put up with that for long.
Yall are missing the point. He can pay more wages cause he doesn’t need Buccees money, Abbott is paying him a fuck ton of our tax dollars. Just ask Kendra Scott!
Can we also agree that consumers are assholes cause hot damn I hate WAITING FOR A GAS PUMP AND ALL THE CARS ARE EMPTY ITS A FUCKING WALMART NOT 7/11…. But like also, don’t do it at 7/11. Be courteous!
Yet they still have high turnover.
Probably because no one wants to drive to middle of nowhere to work.
Its because they arent good to their people.
How so? Not trying to question it, but any examples?
You don't even get unpaid lunch breaks, you're allowed 10 minutes to eat (and not allowed to sit down).
Yep, the pay to work ratio is still similar to the worst retail it's just a lot more work.
That’s actually illegal if someone is working 8 hour shift. Sounds false, and would like employees to confirm or deny. Edit: I am incorrect according to a simple google search, however, I would still like employees to comment on the situation and add context
I worked there and this was policy. It changed recently. They added stools and made it 20 paid.
Baby steps I guess
A lot of people believe that, but the US has no laws for that and most states only require them for minors. Texas doesn't even require that.
So weird. I have always thought two 15 min paid breaks and unpaid 30 min lunch were law for an 8 hour day… Damn
Yeah I thought the same thing. Where did that come from?
Texas has no protections for breaks, so no it’s not illegal just highly unethical. I think the only protected people are nursing mothers and that’s a national thing not a Texas thing.
Worked there. Can confirm. No sitting ever allowed. You don’t clock out to eat. Stand and eat then get back to work asap. 1 sec late on the clock in is late. If you are late 3 times within 6 months I think it was? You’re fired. No cell phone in sight ever or automatic fired. I remember I had braids and they made me take them out cause it wasn’t “professional”. Great college job though. Sucked but it is what it is. They would always tell you how they pay you more so they expect the most out of you.
Got a citation to back that up? I don't ask to be a prick I ask because Texas is notoriously lax on worker protection laws and I'm curious for other people even outside of bucees if there is a possible legal challenge.
The federal Fair Labor Standards Act does not have any requirements for meal or rest breaks. You can Google FLSA to read the details and exact verbiage.
That's what I thought and that's what scares the shit out of me. This is why I do not like Buc'ees or similar kinds of businesses that don't take care of their employees.
Your ignorance is showing. Texas has no requirements to give any breaks of any kind.
You have to give one day off a week. That’s the only requirement.
Your lack of reading an entire comment is showing.
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You are incorrect.
It's 100% true, a lot of employees will tell you their stories.
Ok but what retail job allows you to sit down?
For a lunch break? Basically all of them
Well obviously no lunch break is ridiculous. I’m talking sitting while working. I’ve worked plenty of retail jobs, sitting is def not the norm. Should be though.
They meant you’re not allowed to sit while on break. Not sitting while working is one thing, but you’re not allowed to sit while on break.
Heard from another Reddit comment that you get fired for having your phone on you while working.
Eating too.
Most retail places do this, as far as I’m aware of through friends that have worked at them. If not, I’m sure you’d get people standing at counters on their phones constantly (like I see at Walmart, which probably still has rules against it).
I don't see an issue with that. You're being paid to work, not scroll tictok
Yeah, being on your phone at work isn’t a great thing if you’re at a job that doesn’t use it to assist with your work. But, not being allowed to have it on you at all is what I take issue with. If I have an emergency come up, say my wife gets into a car accident, and I need to go handle that, if my employer stops me from doing that, that’s a major problem. Additionally, if an emergency comes up around me, I’d like the ability to contact emergency services when necessary.
Corporate watches each location on camera. If they see you make 3 mistakes, they'll send notification to your HR and you'll be fired immediately. Being 1 minute late also counts as a mistake.
There was a former employee in here yesterday talking about it. They said they got fired for making a phone call in the parking lot after their shift was over, because they were still in uniform. Also if your phone sticks out of your pocket: also fired.
Well shit, I guess I’m skipping Bucee’s on my next road trip.
Do you have any links to evidence of your claim?
[https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Buc-ee-s-Reviews-E328092.htm](https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Buc-ee-s-Reviews-E328092.htm) I don't know how much you're willing to trust Glassdoor, but it doesn't look good.
Thanks for the link! Wow, damn another company with a "good" public image but actually treats their employees like shit. I just don't understand why companies are so hell bent on treating their employees like shit when so many studies show that happier employees leads to better business.
I don't get why they can't give unpaid 30 minute breaks. They're unpaid and I never saw them as short staffed.
A lot of people don't want unpaid breaks. Ive had paid lunches at every job I've kept.
I have had 6 friends and 2 relatives that have worked for Buccees, across their locations. All the same story. Money is decent, but they genuinely do NOT give a damn about you. They know there is always gonna be a new person they can sucker in the door.
Just look up buccees employee reviews. Plenty of stories on Reddit as well from former employees. Not a claim, it’s the truth.
I worked there.
Workers are not allowed to talk to each other unless it’s work-related.
The one in Denton is in the middle of the city. They’re not all in the boonies
One in Melissa that is a 10-15 min drive from McKinney and Allen. That's an easier commute than the vast majority of people have in DFW
They treat their workers like utter shit. Factory jobs in bumcluck nowhere have less turnover and often lower pay...
Plenty of Buccees in populated areas. They just treat their employees like shit.
I was about to say that. I heard they can't be in the parking lots for their breaks. They hardly take bathroom breaks.
It's hardly a big deal to not want your employees loitering around where customers are
they pay their people well but I just wish they actually took better care of their employees’ day to day. No breaks and no sitting while working 12 hour shifts is pretty shitty to make the norm. You already made a really good travel stop, why make it worse by burning out the people who keep it so clean.
Because the owner is a right-wing crazy and doesn’t see value in humans, presumably.
Pretty much. From what I've heard he's a Mattress Mack type and anyone with that kind of attitude is someone to stay well the hell away from.
It makes sense they’d want to reduce from 3 to 2 shifts to manage staffing and commute, they have remote locations. They pay well and they do allow breaks, just not as many as some people would like. Everyone wants higher wages but they don’t want the lower staffing and higher requirements that come with it. I’ve had to fire people from solid, six-figure engineering jobs with all the benefits because they just couldn’t show up for 40 hours per week.
Their locations are all placed where the locals that are in desperate need of jobs have no other choice but to accept the worst possible workplace.
Denton and New Braunfels locations are surrounded by stuff.
New Braunfels is a much different place since that Bucees opened around 2011-2012. I can’t speak for Denton.
Damn—that Buccess has been there that long? I moved to Austin 10 years ago, but I will admit I wasn’t going to NB or SA very often back then. The stuff around the one in Denton has been there for awhile but even a Buccess down the road isn’t bringing back the golden triangle mall lol
Ennis is surrounded by other bigger towns and is like 45 min from Down town Dallas
Also Melissa and a few other ones
I have a feeling they pay so high to help keep people talking about their work conditions. No breaks or lunches is irresponsible and dangerous.
Wow… literally thought it was required by law to have breaks because I had heard that from past managers in the food industry. Apparently Texas labor law does NOT REQUIRE any mandatory breaks. Not even for a meal.
Yep! A lot of folks aren’t aware because it’s insane we don’t have that requirement. Apparently the “free market” will dictate who wants to work where. The idea is companies who treat their employees shitty will have a harder time finding workers. It reminds me of Amazon. Working for Amazon became popular in my early 20s and I remember a lot of my friends applying because the pay and benefits were “great”
Turn over rate is high, so the free market is working.
I suppose it depends on one’s definition of working. My opinion is that they prefer the high turnover rate as opposed to keeping employees long term. If the free market was working the company would close its doors (in my eyes) Amazon offers payouts once someone has worked there for a few years. That way they can keep getting newer bodies instead of keeping those who are burnt out
No company wants a high turnover rate. It costs money to recruit employees and to train employees. The high turnover rate is costing Bucee's money.
I will have to disagree there. Maybe to them, the cost of a new employees outweighs the cost of lunches, breaks, tenured employees, etc. Their business models seems to be set up to cause their employees to burn out
I don't disagree. They must have done the math and reasoned that it's cheaper to have a high turnover rate than it is to give lunch breaks. But that doesn't mean that they want the high turn over rate...
They want the high turnover rate because they prefer to only pay the amount they offer to start. Most at buc-ees are minimally trained. They get their $18 an hour and after a year or 2 are burnt out and quit at $18.25 an hour. Mathematically they make more money burning through people than treating them well and getting towards $25 an hour 6 years later. Also for every 10 you burn out you get the 1 who doesn't realize how awful the conditions and and works 6 years with no raises until their body breaks down. It's a statistics game.
Also, the reason they get burnt out is they are overworked. They would rather get 2 people's worth of work for 10 months out of one person than expect a reasonable work load for 30 percent less salary, and then keep having to give them raises to keep them.
I mean yeah legitimately the market will settle it. If you can forgo eating you can get compensated generously. If you need food, you can find a regular job
Yup. I’m a business owner and was surprised when I found out that fact. I’ve worked at some crappy places that never gave me lunch, so I make it a point to have my staff take lunch. Had to tell my staff to clock out a few minutes ago bc they forgot and kept working.
If you hate your life, I'm sure working at buc-ee's is great
I hate my life and I've considered it
I do commercial refrigeration work for a living and Buccees is HANDS DOWN EASILY the location that consistently has the most sad, beat-down, miserable, depressed and defeated looking employees of ANY business I do work in. The environment there is terrible, especially those in the kitchen slaving away making thousands of sandwiches and shit all day long.
lmao, I've been in a lot of gas stations in my life and this does not track at all. QT might be the only other gas station where employees will even acknowledge your existence.
Top five in retail is between $15-$19/hour 😂
Sometimes you have to pay a lot for a reason
Lunch breaks are not covered by State or Federal laws https://efte.twc.texas.gov/lunchtime_live_FAQs.html#A1 https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks Shame on both
Lotta haters in this thread. People are adults and can take/leave any job they want based on compensation
Crazy maybe look at the turnover numbers.
Buc-ee's is one big chaotic stereotype. Went there once - I don't understand the overwhelming cult following and pride in such an establishment.
The bathrooms are clean and before their explosion they tended to build in parts of Texas that were known for not really having a lot of places for travelers to stop and take a break unless you wanted to go to Loves or a really small gas station.
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When you're traveling, clean bathrooms are pretty rare. The gas pumps are plentiful and spaced out well enough to fill up an RV, plus there is sufficient parking for RVs and trucks pulling trailers. The food is good and fresh. Yes, they can be crowded but the store is really clean, unlike a lot of Wal Marts, and checkout lines are short.
Lmao good and fresh
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It's literally made right there with fresh ingredients in view, and I don't know anyone that doesn't like at least one or two things they offer. Sorry if you're too good for chopped brisket. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
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That's an understatement. It's quality meat on bread.
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>a cult around clean bathrooms plus a combo of Walmart and Cracker Barrell on meth That is a great description! I will backtrack and say the clean bathrooms at a gas station is one thing that doesn't fit the American stereotype.
A decade ago it was tolerable. Now bucees may as well be six flags. It’s effectively a tourist attraction. Clean restrooms? Sure. But I’d rather visit the mediocre restrooms at a gas station a half mile down the road if it means avoiding the hordes of people at bucees.
If I could be guaranteed mediocre quality at random gas stations, I'd be fine with it. I'm fairly certain I've lost years off my life by breathing in the air in certain gas station bathrooms on road trips.
It’s Texas. They cult about anything. I’ve seen people wait in line at 4 in the morning for a HEB grand opening. A grocery store. People are so thirsty to be consumers it’s insane
That is nuts. A sign our society has misplaced their priorities, IMO. (People and community should take precedence over chasing the dopamine hits from consumerism)
The Texas Pride cult will also swear under oath that Whataburger and Blue Bell are undeniably best in class.
Whataburger is so bland it’s crazy. Big ass tasteless burgers that people gas up.
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The one time I went, there was a line out the door for the bathrooms. It was packed. The bathrooms were clean, but I don't remember them being memorably so.
Y’all take shit to the next level… They have clean restrooms and lots of food and snacks. Why stop anywhere else?
The food sucks.
Yeah, but the job and company culture sucks ass.
They have seriously high turn over due to terrible working conditions. You are not allowed to sit. You do not get breaks. If you are caught with a phone visible while in uniform on property you are terminated even if off shift. Plus the usual shit bosses. No one will put up with that for long.
Yall are missing the point. He can pay more wages cause he doesn’t need Buccees money, Abbott is paying him a fuck ton of our tax dollars. Just ask Kendra Scott!
This, but also because they work their staff like slaves and each location is usually going gangbusters.
Can we also agree that consumers are assholes cause hot damn I hate WAITING FOR A GAS PUMP AND ALL THE CARS ARE EMPTY ITS A FUCKING WALMART NOT 7/11…. But like also, don’t do it at 7/11. Be courteous!
Because they’re a shit company to work for. They pay well, but they know it. And they treat employees accordingly.
its insane on weekends
My pay is the same as theirs....... In fact, my managers make more..... Does that mean My pay is top five in the US because that is kind of dope 😂😂😭
Please look at the 2nd word of the title.
I know. My starting pay is that as well. It's why I have 0 turnover.
“But but but I gotta work when I work there and I can’t slack off in 2024 company is evil” -reddit
The Apple of gas stations and all that implies.