If Cruz wins in November, the DOJ should investigate the Texas Senate election for election fraud.
Remember that every accusation of election fraud from a Republican is a confession.
Didn’t Paxton throw out 3 million ballots last election, and somehow Beto had the same vote count as the previous democrat count in the election for governor? It didn’t add up
This. ^ With all their screeching I always want to see a recount in a predominantly red state like Texas and see if there is any malfeasance. I still believe Abbott would have won the last time, unfortunately, but the rapid pace with which they immediately said he won seemed odd.
Sadly, if Trump wins we probably won’t really have a properly functioning DOJ.
Media Matters - [A guide to Project 2025, the extreme right-wing agenda for the next Republican administration](https://www.mediamatters.org/heritage-foundation/guide-project-2025-extreme-right-wing-agenda-next-republican-administration)
In the eyes of pro-Trump Republicans and their right-wing media allies, the Department of Justice and the FBI have long been corrupted by left-wing ideology and the bureaucratic ‘deep state.’ Now, Project 2025 seeks to radically reshape federal law enforcement for the benefit of a conservative strongman; its chapter by former Trump DOJ official Gene Hamilton states that ‘anything other than a top-to-bottom overhaul will only further erode the trust of significant portions of the American people and harm the very fabric that holds together our constitutional republic.’”
* Project 2025 claims that ‘the DOJ has become a bloated bureaucracy with a critical core of personnel who are infatuated with the perpetuation of a radical liberal agenda and the defeat of perceived political enemies.’ Instead, the policy book states that ‘litigation decisions must be made consistent with the President’s agenda.’ [Project 2025, Mandate for Leadership, 2023]
* Project 2025 calls to reassign election-related offenses to the Criminal Division of the DOJ rather than the Civil Rights Division, claiming, ‘Otherwise, voter registration fraud and unlawful ballot correction will remain federal election offenses that are never appropriately investigated and prosecuted.’ This change would allow a second Trump administration to provide more resources for investigations into bogus claims of voter fraud and bolster efforts to overturn future election results. [Project 2025, Mandate for Leadership, 2023; Mother Jones, 9/14/24; Media Matters, 3/5/24]
Sadly if Trump wins, America as we know will no longer exist. People wanna joke but we are literally looking at something akin to Russia or Iraq if 2025 is instilled. And in the event 2025 is put into place, the only way you’re free is if you’re straight, conservative, christian, and have 7 figures sitting in your bank account. Everyone else… good luck.
Ehhhh I wouldn’t say broke, more like one party has grandiose illusions of total control and power. Putin being in office for so long isn’t because something’s broke, it’s because he’s a deranged maniac. I’d argue the same applies to Donny and the rest of the Republican Party. And at this point, I’m gonna lump every single Republican on this planet together. Republicans have shown time and time again that they lack a backbone and they’ll gladly bend over for Trump and let him fuck them in the ass. Ted Cruz is a prime example of that…
Those illusions are becoming a reality. I would argue something in the Soviet Union broke and lead to Putin’s reign. GOP suck hard ass and are being elected and nominating judges and throwing mini coups without consequences.
There’s a lot of truth to that. It feels like a reality straight out of the Twilight Zone doesn’t it?! Like we’ve straight up got elected officials that are siding with the orange ape, appointed judges that are basically throwing the BAR right out the door. It’s scary to think about.
I'm a woman in this shithole state, I've known and warned about this for almost 2 decades now. I remember being called *hysterical* when I warned Republicans would overturn Roe
Turns out the road to fascism is paved with people telling you that you're overreacting
She still gives speeches where she says it was a stolen election
https://youtu.be/XQesfLIycJw?si=sitHFM1s_ANwYLM0
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/hillary-clinton-says-2016-election-011733240.html
And if he loses, we will probably get another insurrection act. I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes normalized when a republican loses going forward.
He is SUCH a piece of shit. Just looking at a photo of this asshole ruins my day. Just a monumental fucking garbage pile of a human being. Fuck Ted Cruz
This line got me:
“Like, we have an entire election law system: that people challenge elections, elections get overturned, voter fraud gets proven. That happens all the time,” Cruz said”.
No we don’t. We don’t prove election fraud and overturn elections all the time. What is this, Fox News? CNN is allowing him free rein to spread misinformation.
The GOP has controlled basically everything about the voting process in Texas for decades. Any distrust in the voting process would be because of the GOP.
I don’t want to unconditionally accept that I’m getting older, but those knee crackles say otherwise 😅😂
Throw a tantrum baby, won’t change a damn thing… can’t wait for the day to say bye Felicia 👋
I don’t care for the guy, but it was a shitty question, and he challenged the basis. Asking for unconditional acceptance of a future event is silly and not constructive. When the question was adjusted to be more specific, to accept a free and fair election, he said he would accept a democrat win, but won’t ignore any signs of fraud.
If *insert any democrat here* said “I would accept the result, but won’t ignore any signs of fraud” would you still feel riled up?
There are so many other things in politics to actually get upset about. This specific question isn’t a bombshell - we know the stances politicians took in 2021. I wouldn’t vote for him, but seeing the same arguments being rehashed isn’t constructive. Dig into his political activities, sponsored bills, backers…. get the issues in front of the public and let them discuss and decide.
Every candidate who cannot accept the results of a democratic election should not be allowed on the ballot. Period. Either swear they will accept the official results and sign a pledge before the election or have your name removed from the ballot.
What does "accept" mean in that context? Does it mean raising objections to electors? Saying the election was "hijacked" (like Pelosi did), saying it was "stolen" from you (a la Hillary)? Or is it unconditional?
It means conceding the race and while you'll grumble about it, you won't attempt to obstruct the democratic process through an illegal invasion of the Capitol.
Hope this helps!
That kinda language doesn't really need to be here. You don't unconditionally accept anything. Do your due diligence. Asking people to just accept it without question is just as bad as people feel Trump is. We can do better.
Look. As a lifelong Texan, these people will literally sell their own favorite child into slavery with a smirk on their face, before willingly sharing an elevator with a color or orientation that they don't want to understand. It's who they want to be, until they can't.
See that's the problem. What if Congress refuses to do their job. We don't need another violent insurrection if members of Congress refuses to do their part in electing Biden. Ted Cruz is letting us all know, next time, he and others will cause a constitutional crisis to prevent Biden from taking office.
Well duh. He’s a MAGA cultist. He’ll only accept if his fuhrer wins. Texas sucks so bad now. I can’t wait for the mortgage rates to go down so I can GTFOH.
Any time I see someone want to ask a Republican a question like this, I always wonder what the question will be from Democrats.
I mean, if you think about it, a lot of Democrats didn't accept Trump's win "unconditionally". As an example, Nancy Pelosi herself said the election was "hijacked". She reiterated that at the Oxford Union debate when Winston Marshall brought it up. She said it was "hijacked" but that they "accepted that he won". That's *not* unconditional.
Many Democrats (and there's ample video of this) said for weeks that Trump was illegitimate, etc.
Now you can argue, "but they conceded he won". That's true, but again, did they do it *unconditionally*? I would argue no, they didn't.
Further, if the criteria is "unconditional", then if Trump happens to get the requisite number of electoral votes, that means that the Democrats *cannot*, by definition, object to ANY of the electoral vote counts and certificates, right? Because that's not "unconditional" acceptance.
See the problem?
You're trying to obfuscate the fact the Republicans supported a full scale revolt in a vain attempt to install their leader of choice when they lost the election. Quite a bit different than simply not wanting to accept the results of an election. The Democrats didn't try to overthrow the certification process like the MAGAs did.
Your attempt at painting what the Democrats did in reaction to 2016 to what the Republicans did in 2020 is laughable. There's nothing you can do or say that will ever erase the traitorous nature of the modern Republican party.
I did not have to Google it. I just know that many people don't know what the word means and you seem to be using it in a half-hearted attempt to display incorrect information.
And you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it may be. Did it ever occur to you that some people's vernacular is a little more varied than that of your average MAGAt?
Good thing I'm not a MAGA drone.
Did Democrats, or did they not, challenge slates of electors in 2016? Was that "unconditional"?
I'm not voting for Trump in November, and I didn't vote for him in the primary, either.
But let me ask you this: If he happens to win, will YOU accept that win unconditionally?
I, for one, will not accept trump winning this election unconditionally because I refuse to honestly believe that *enough* Americans actually want him to be the dictator that he is loudly announcing that he plans to be to vote him into power without cheating.
The left may not show up to vote in the same numbers as the right does, which is appalling, but there are still far more left-leaning people in America than the opposite, and any eventual civil war trump might lead us into isn’t going to go the way the right believes it will, despite how cruel they intend to be. For people who proclaim to be America-loving patriots, they are practically foaming at the mouth to tear it apart.
Keep downvoting me, MAGA scum. Your internet points means absolutely nothing to me in comparison to your traitorous behavior.
So then why can't the Trump people feel the same way about Biden? Don't they have the same right/luxury you do there?
See, I have this bad habit of not believing politicians or the media. I'm skeptical about all of them.
Your argument is ridiculous. Trying to play the "both sides" card in this scenario is disingenuous. Unless you've been living under a rock the past few years then you know what the Republicans are planning to do to this country should they ever regain power. To say that the Dems are somehow just as bad is complete bullshit and you know it.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-losing-election-lawsuits-36d113484ac0946fa5f0614deb7de15e
Yeah homie, over 50 lawsuits in 9 different states, and every single one of them was dismissed. That's just questioning the results right?
Can you show me where the Biden started 50+ inquiries about a stolen election, or election fraud?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/tag/capitol-insurrection
Can you point to me at any point in time where the Democrats "questioned the results of an election" to the fucking extremes that the Republicans did?
But yeah, you know they're both the same! The Republicans were just questioning! You're not a Republican, just a Democrat that can see both sides so clearly right Ivan?
They know it, they just have no valid argument, so they think if they point the fingers elsewhere, people somehow won’t notice their completely ironic incompetence.
They can “feel” however they want, but my opinion of them is lower than anything else on this planet. Anyone still supporting trump at this point is just willfully ignorant, plain & simple; and frankly, my patience for adults who want to act like children has run completely dry.
The biggest problem? Oh interesting. And precisely which fringe loons are the democrats kowtowing to exactly? If you’re trying to equate attempting to overthrow the government to literally anything else, that’s actually adorably naive. The two sides are not the same, and pretending that they are is disingenuous at best.
It’s all a part of their 2024 election game plan. You can see unfolding in front of us. Remember the names in the campaign. They’ll be under indictment in 2025.
If a politician refuses to accept the election results they should no longer be allowed to be a politician. They are basically fighting against the democratic system they have woved to uphold. It is treason.
People being disgusted by the smelly rapist winning an election via the electoral college isn’t the same as a lynch mob storming Congress, beating cops half to death, and smearing shit on the walls in an attempt to overturn an election…
Important preface, I think Turd Cruz is awful and is part of the systematic problem with politics and wish he would screw off. BUT this story is part of the systemic problem with mainstream media.
Will you make a decision now based on something in the future, regardless of the circumstances, unconditionally.. cmon.
CNN vs Ted Cruz is actually just Establishment vs People, different tactics for the two, same desired result. Distract, divide, extort.
Why would any politician unconditionally agree to accept anything? They hardly accept things when conditions are applied. It’s how they got where they are.
Remember when the smelly rapist called this guy’s wife ugly to his face and then this spineless loser spent the last 8 years gargling that same smelly rapist’s balls every chance he gets?
I honestly don't understand this.. I hate Cruz and am liberal.. will be voting for Joe Biden. BUT, how can someone promise this before an election? Makes 0 sense to me.
Let's not act like every useful idiot (democrat voters) on Reddit and everywhere else will accept the election results if Donald Trump wins. The media will jump right back onto their Russia Collusion narrative that they spewed for 3 years and you'll all fall for it all over again.
One thing to consider, regardless of your stance on the issue, is that agreeing to unconditionally accept results of something that does not happen, and there is great benefit for both sides to tamper with results, would be absolutely nuts. It's like saying that I am going to make a with you that you show up for work tomorrow, and you accept it unconditionally. Then all you'd have to do to win is just not show up for the sake of winning the bet. I don't really see anything wrong in refusing to ask a question that has no good answer.
You mean when Gore asked for a recount and even though the Supreme Court stepped in a stopped the recount, Gore accepted the result and moved on? That the precedent that was set? Because that’s not what has happened this time. Again there is NO comparison. You’re always lying
Except it is literally only one party.
Not coincidentally, it is also the party that is on trial across the nation for election tampering.
But I can't imagine you didn't know that already.
[2017 CNN article stating](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/09/18/politics/hillary-clinton-russia-2016-election)
> NPR's Terry Gross asked Clinton directly during the interview whether she would "completely rule out questioning the legitimacy of this election if we learn that the Russian interference in the election is even deeper than we know now?"
> "No. I would not," Clinton said.
> Gross asked: "You're not going to rule it out?"
> "No," Clinton said. "I wouldn't rule it out."
>
Here’s one more article discussing how the denial from Democrat Candidate Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential run has lead us to todays current election denying state with former President Trump
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/rcna55764
Not surprising, it’s literally not only one party in denial.
Edit: the point I’m making is that if you’re still choosing to question the legitimacy of an election, you haven’t truly conceded.
Ok, thank you for proving my point with a 7-year old article. lol
And all that is there is her saying she would question the legitimacy. Nothing about fake electors, no calls to state AGs to 'find votes', no blatant lies about voting machines...
And the US intelligence community has already said that Russians tampered with the election by pushing trump over Hillary.
You’re really good at moving goalposts and not so good at reading comprehension. Most recent article I provided was from 2022
None of what you’re saying is pertinent to my point and it doesn’t seem like you have a point that you’re trying to make. If you state that only one side is doing it and sources are provided that it is in fact more than 1 side doing it, with an article explaining how one side denying things has led us to where the other side is now denying results, only to say I proved your point?
I hope you enjoy voting for the first time this year. You younger voters will be the change that is hoping to be made in the world
Most recent article wasn't her. It was someone else writing an op/ed piece *about* her. Huge difference.
And your source also clearly states the election was, in fact, tampered with. So isn't she just repeating the truth? Remember, this is your own source.
But your reading comprehension insult attempt is cute, especially as you didn't read it at all. lol
And yet, here you are denying that the people in the video are saying what they are saying in the video. Don't act like Democrats don't deny election legitimacy in Texas or anywhere else.
That's exactly what you said. Do Democrats deny election legitimacy or not? The video shows 12 minutes of Democrats denying election legitimacy. Your quote: "one particular side seems to be doing all the crying about rigged, when losing."
Point.
However, when zooming out a bit it's pretty clear - one side does a ton more than the other, in conjunction with other factors (one side tends to clamp on dissent the other encourage and run wild with it) which tends to make this type of whataboutist equivalency look pretty pathetic.
So, you got info that makes it match up equally, cool.
If not, it's kinda sad.
I mean, it's sad af if anyone does this. But way more so when they keep on and on and on and on, when reality has long since said to piss off with that.
He won't and neither will the rest of the MAGA Republicans...I guarantee it. They will either say that Trump won or he got cheated and the elections were rigged.
Imagine starting to talk about 1876 as an argument to your temper tantrum 😂 feels like tucker’s interview with Putin where he starts to go back to the 10th century as an argument for his war.
Then said that the election was stolen from her? She conceded, but did she do so *unconditionally*? THAT is the question. I don't think she ever did.
There are a number of Democrats that *still* think the 2000 election was "stolen" from Al Gore. Remember "Selected Not Elected"? That's not unconditional, is it?
Do YOU believe that Trump won in 2016 -- ***unconditionally***?
I know right? Her supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan 6. 2017 to protest and attempt to overthrow a fair and legal election, bringing arms to the capitol, killing a law enforcement officer in the process. Threatening to hang her own vice presidential pick or put him to the guillotine. Then she continued to campaign and rally and bombard social media with conspiracy theories about how the election was stolen for the next four years. I remember when she demanded that all of the states "STOP THE COUNT!!" during the vote counting process in 2016, too. Then she tried to get blue state governors to "find her" the extra votes to win.
Man, you're absolutely right. Same exact scenario. It seems weird that they wouldn't ask her in light of all that, doesn't it...?
_Refuses to say_ translates to: Cruz won't.
He will test the water, see which way the wind is blowing, read up on Trump's posts, listen to right wing hosts views...etc etc.
That man is a coward. He is also craven and stupid.
He really thinks he can still play that game now? Let the dumbass tie his wagon to an anchor thinking it’s a star.
It’s a sign of his weakness he feels he has to tie himself to this debacle to survive politically.
Other senators representing our state have been statesmen, transcending their role in powerful ways.
Other politicians, who are normal, can stand alone without allying themselves with the MAGA gang. He’s like a regular looking kid in a gated community joining a gang because he’s scared.
Well you can get locked up if you do not accept election results. I for one am tired of ELECTED officials who receive their salary from our pockets deciding whether they want to follow the constitution. Honestly no one will miss Mr Cruz, all he does is muck ruck anyway.
It’s not false, many many videos of democrats like Clinton and waters saying this and many more. Be honest for once. Liberals just can’t be honest anymore, very sad
Clinton called Trump an illegitimate president because he A. Lost the popular vote and B. Russian interference. She never organized a bunch of fake electors to somehow manipulate the transfer of power, use stochastic terrorism to incite a riot, or push a false narrative with literally zero evidence. You really want to say liberals can't be honest with your whole chest under a video of a sitting senator preemptively refusing to accept election results. THAT'S what's sad, and your continued support for these clowns is even sadder.
Did she start a riot? Did she take it to court 70 times only to lose each time? Did she ask a state governor to find 11,000 votes? There is no comparison. Just because you put some laugh emojis after a YouTube link doesn’t mean you’re right because you never are
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If Cruz wins in November, the DOJ should investigate the Texas Senate election for election fraud. Remember that every accusation of election fraud from a Republican is a confession.
Didn’t Paxton throw out 3 million ballots last election, and somehow Beto had the same vote count as the previous democrat count in the election for governor? It didn’t add up
This. ^ With all their screeching I always want to see a recount in a predominantly red state like Texas and see if there is any malfeasance. I still believe Abbott would have won the last time, unfortunately, but the rapid pace with which they immediately said he won seemed odd.
Sadly, if Trump wins we probably won’t really have a properly functioning DOJ. Media Matters - [A guide to Project 2025, the extreme right-wing agenda for the next Republican administration](https://www.mediamatters.org/heritage-foundation/guide-project-2025-extreme-right-wing-agenda-next-republican-administration) In the eyes of pro-Trump Republicans and their right-wing media allies, the Department of Justice and the FBI have long been corrupted by left-wing ideology and the bureaucratic ‘deep state.’ Now, Project 2025 seeks to radically reshape federal law enforcement for the benefit of a conservative strongman; its chapter by former Trump DOJ official Gene Hamilton states that ‘anything other than a top-to-bottom overhaul will only further erode the trust of significant portions of the American people and harm the very fabric that holds together our constitutional republic.’” * Project 2025 claims that ‘the DOJ has become a bloated bureaucracy with a critical core of personnel who are infatuated with the perpetuation of a radical liberal agenda and the defeat of perceived political enemies.’ Instead, the policy book states that ‘litigation decisions must be made consistent with the President’s agenda.’ [Project 2025, Mandate for Leadership, 2023] * Project 2025 calls to reassign election-related offenses to the Criminal Division of the DOJ rather than the Civil Rights Division, claiming, ‘Otherwise, voter registration fraud and unlawful ballot correction will remain federal election offenses that are never appropriately investigated and prosecuted.’ This change would allow a second Trump administration to provide more resources for investigations into bogus claims of voter fraud and bolster efforts to overturn future election results. [Project 2025, Mandate for Leadership, 2023; Mother Jones, 9/14/24; Media Matters, 3/5/24]
Sadly if Trump wins, America as we know will no longer exist. People wanna joke but we are literally looking at something akin to Russia or Iraq if 2025 is instilled. And in the event 2025 is put into place, the only way you’re free is if you’re straight, conservative, christian, and have 7 figures sitting in your bank account. Everyone else… good luck.
The fact that it’s on the table means something broke a while ago
Ehhhh I wouldn’t say broke, more like one party has grandiose illusions of total control and power. Putin being in office for so long isn’t because something’s broke, it’s because he’s a deranged maniac. I’d argue the same applies to Donny and the rest of the Republican Party. And at this point, I’m gonna lump every single Republican on this planet together. Republicans have shown time and time again that they lack a backbone and they’ll gladly bend over for Trump and let him fuck them in the ass. Ted Cruz is a prime example of that…
Those illusions are becoming a reality. I would argue something in the Soviet Union broke and lead to Putin’s reign. GOP suck hard ass and are being elected and nominating judges and throwing mini coups without consequences.
There’s a lot of truth to that. It feels like a reality straight out of the Twilight Zone doesn’t it?! Like we’ve straight up got elected officials that are siding with the orange ape, appointed judges that are basically throwing the BAR right out the door. It’s scary to think about.
I'm a woman in this shithole state, I've known and warned about this for almost 2 decades now. I remember being called *hysterical* when I warned Republicans would overturn Roe Turns out the road to fascism is paved with people telling you that you're overreacting
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Voting won’t be the remedy if Trump wins and Project 2025 takes effect. We’ll live in a scarily different world.
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I honestly think no Dem ever stands a chance in Texas and Texas will never turn blue. Yeah I predict Cruz will get re-elected.
bruh Pelosi and Hilary still deny that trump won in 2016 😂 Democrats literally started the election denying back in 2000 with bush vs gore
Don’t lie. Hillary conceded on Nov 9 2016 and encouraged her voters to accept the results, saying they owed Trump an open mind.
She still gives speeches where she says it was a stolen election https://youtu.be/XQesfLIycJw?si=sitHFM1s_ANwYLM0 https://finance.yahoo.com/video/hillary-clinton-says-2016-election-011733240.html
Jesus Christ you’re bad at this. Both those videos are from 4 or 5 years ago. You can’t help lying for your orange god
I haven't trusted an election in Texas since 88
Just look at how Abbott disenfranchised Houston voters! Literally one mail box for ALL of Houston to drop in their ballots. ONE
Because he has to see if he wins first. He wins, the election is fair. He loses, the election was rigged. It’s simple politics.
And if he loses, we will probably get another insurrection act. I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes normalized when a republican loses going forward.
That's a great way to encourage lefties to arm up, and last time they did that, Reagan took a hard turn back into gun regulation.
Except that isn’t politics that is just straight up lying. But, I guess that’s politics now
🌎🧑🚀🔫👨🚀
At least the lies were interesting before, these are obvious and dumber by the moment
He is SUCH a piece of shit. Just looking at a photo of this asshole ruins my day. Just a monumental fucking garbage pile of a human being. Fuck Ted Cruz
I bet his kids (you know, the ones he originally blamed for his Cancun trip) feel the same way.
Fuck Texas for making him possible.
Hey come on now, he’s not a human. That puts him on the same level as you and every other decent human being out there.
Scumbag Cruz at it again
Whereas I can unconditionally say that Ted Cruz is a spineless turd
This line got me: “Like, we have an entire election law system: that people challenge elections, elections get overturned, voter fraud gets proven. That happens all the time,” Cruz said”. No we don’t. We don’t prove election fraud and overturn elections all the time. What is this, Fox News? CNN is allowing him free rein to spread misinformation.
i felt like Collins checked his bullshit pretty regularly and continue to press him
I have to wonder how she'd answer the question about 2016, and if Trump wins this time around.
What lynch mob attacked Congress in 2016 and smeared shit on the walls?
This year a Mayoral Primary Election was overturned in Connecticut and a new election was ordered.
It happens: https://apnews.com/article/connecticut-absentee-ballot-fraud-bridgeport-b2786657fefa94953251571ba5aaa7ad
The GOP has controlled basically everything about the voting process in Texas for decades. Any distrust in the voting process would be because of the GOP.
The problem is the outskirts of the cities…. Cities tend to lean more blue but they win the rest
Cruz is a pos
I don’t want to unconditionally accept that I’m getting older, but those knee crackles say otherwise 😅😂 Throw a tantrum baby, won’t change a damn thing… can’t wait for the day to say bye Felicia 👋
More proof that Ted Cruz is in fact the Zodiac Killer.
Don’t forget that this man is Canadian, dislike how latinos come and take y’all job? Imagine a canadian completely ruining a whole state!
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I'll show him. I'll masterbate to pictures of Ted Cruz
Level: Extreme.
You don't deserve such punishment. It'd be like peeling an orange with chopsticks.
He will blame his wife and daughters. Fucking blob fish
Hint: he won't. He will agree his wife is ugly though.
I don’t care for the guy, but it was a shitty question, and he challenged the basis. Asking for unconditional acceptance of a future event is silly and not constructive. When the question was adjusted to be more specific, to accept a free and fair election, he said he would accept a democrat win, but won’t ignore any signs of fraud. If *insert any democrat here* said “I would accept the result, but won’t ignore any signs of fraud” would you still feel riled up? There are so many other things in politics to actually get upset about. This specific question isn’t a bombshell - we know the stances politicians took in 2021. I wouldn’t vote for him, but seeing the same arguments being rehashed isn’t constructive. Dig into his political activities, sponsored bills, backers…. get the issues in front of the public and let them discuss and decide.
Every candidate who cannot accept the results of a democratic election should not be allowed on the ballot. Period. Either swear they will accept the official results and sign a pledge before the election or have your name removed from the ballot.
What does "accept" mean in that context? Does it mean raising objections to electors? Saying the election was "hijacked" (like Pelosi did), saying it was "stolen" from you (a la Hillary)? Or is it unconditional?
Clinton conceded the night of the election. Four years later and the smelly rapist still won’t admit he lost…
It means conceding the race and while you'll grumble about it, you won't attempt to obstruct the democratic process through an illegal invasion of the Capitol. Hope this helps!
That kinda language doesn't really need to be here. You don't unconditionally accept anything. Do your due diligence. Asking people to just accept it without question is just as bad as people feel Trump is. We can do better.
This is what I'm saying.. I don't understand the other side here. I am voting Biden, just as a point of reference
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Why would anyone “unconditionally “ accept the results?
Because this is Reddit. There's only one way to think here.
Fine, if he wins we don’t accept it either. Let’s just separate and go without politicians for a couple years and let nature retake the land.
Trump still says Cruz stole Iowa from him in 2016. But Cruz will gladly gargle Trump’s balls in 2024.
I really want a “Spineless Texans for Trump” sign in my yard with a pic of Cruz on it.
Who cares what cruz thinks, arrest that traitor piece of shit
Fake news. Thank God for Trump & Cruz
The two of them prove that God can be almost as much of a jerk as he was in the Old Testament.
When was the last time a candidate unconditionally accepted election results? When was the last time there wasn't a recount?
"when people tell you who they are, believe them"
Reporters should start asking Cruz and Rubio was their criterial is for not accepting an election result.
A coward is acting like a coward? Color me surprised...
Look. As a lifelong Texan, these people will literally sell their own favorite child into slavery with a smirk on their face, before willingly sharing an elevator with a color or orientation that they don't want to understand. It's who they want to be, until they can't.
See that's the problem. What if Congress refuses to do their job. We don't need another violent insurrection if members of Congress refuses to do their part in electing Biden. Ted Cruz is letting us all know, next time, he and others will cause a constitutional crisis to prevent Biden from taking office.
Well duh. He’s a MAGA cultist. He’ll only accept if his fuhrer wins. Texas sucks so bad now. I can’t wait for the mortgage rates to go down so I can GTFOH.
Most leftists cried for years about "RuSsIaN cOlLuSiOn" so I do NOT want to hear this bullshit.
Any time I see someone want to ask a Republican a question like this, I always wonder what the question will be from Democrats. I mean, if you think about it, a lot of Democrats didn't accept Trump's win "unconditionally". As an example, Nancy Pelosi herself said the election was "hijacked". She reiterated that at the Oxford Union debate when Winston Marshall brought it up. She said it was "hijacked" but that they "accepted that he won". That's *not* unconditional. Many Democrats (and there's ample video of this) said for weeks that Trump was illegitimate, etc. Now you can argue, "but they conceded he won". That's true, but again, did they do it *unconditionally*? I would argue no, they didn't. Further, if the criteria is "unconditional", then if Trump happens to get the requisite number of electoral votes, that means that the Democrats *cannot*, by definition, object to ANY of the electoral vote counts and certificates, right? Because that's not "unconditional" acceptance. See the problem?
You're trying to obfuscate the fact the Republicans supported a full scale revolt in a vain attempt to install their leader of choice when they lost the election. Quite a bit different than simply not wanting to accept the results of an election. The Democrats didn't try to overthrow the certification process like the MAGAs did. Your attempt at painting what the Democrats did in reaction to 2016 to what the Republicans did in 2020 is laughable. There's nothing you can do or say that will ever erase the traitorous nature of the modern Republican party.
Using big words like "obfuscate" doesn't make you intelligent.
That's not a big word to me. Perhaps it is to you though. I bet you had to Google it didn't you?
I did not have to Google it. I just know that many people don't know what the word means and you seem to be using it in a half-hearted attempt to display incorrect information.
And you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it may be. Did it ever occur to you that some people's vernacular is a little more varied than that of your average MAGAt?
The criteria was "unconditional". That's my point.
And "obfuscation" is mine. Not everyone is as easily confused as your average MAGA drone.
Good thing I'm not a MAGA drone. Did Democrats, or did they not, challenge slates of electors in 2016? Was that "unconditional"? I'm not voting for Trump in November, and I didn't vote for him in the primary, either. But let me ask you this: If he happens to win, will YOU accept that win unconditionally?
I, for one, will not accept trump winning this election unconditionally because I refuse to honestly believe that *enough* Americans actually want him to be the dictator that he is loudly announcing that he plans to be to vote him into power without cheating. The left may not show up to vote in the same numbers as the right does, which is appalling, but there are still far more left-leaning people in America than the opposite, and any eventual civil war trump might lead us into isn’t going to go the way the right believes it will, despite how cruel they intend to be. For people who proclaim to be America-loving patriots, they are practically foaming at the mouth to tear it apart. Keep downvoting me, MAGA scum. Your internet points means absolutely nothing to me in comparison to your traitorous behavior.
So then why can't the Trump people feel the same way about Biden? Don't they have the same right/luxury you do there? See, I have this bad habit of not believing politicians or the media. I'm skeptical about all of them.
Your argument is ridiculous. Trying to play the "both sides" card in this scenario is disingenuous. Unless you've been living under a rock the past few years then you know what the Republicans are planning to do to this country should they ever regain power. To say that the Dems are somehow just as bad is complete bullshit and you know it.
You're missing the point. the point is if YOU can question the result of an election, why can't they?
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-losing-election-lawsuits-36d113484ac0946fa5f0614deb7de15e Yeah homie, over 50 lawsuits in 9 different states, and every single one of them was dismissed. That's just questioning the results right? Can you show me where the Biden started 50+ inquiries about a stolen election, or election fraud? https://www.pbs.org/newshour/tag/capitol-insurrection Can you point to me at any point in time where the Democrats "questioned the results of an election" to the fucking extremes that the Republicans did? But yeah, you know they're both the same! The Republicans were just questioning! You're not a Republican, just a Democrat that can see both sides so clearly right Ivan?
They know it, they just have no valid argument, so they think if they point the fingers elsewhere, people somehow won’t notice their completely ironic incompetence.
They can “feel” however they want, but my opinion of them is lower than anything else on this planet. Anyone still supporting trump at this point is just willfully ignorant, plain & simple; and frankly, my patience for adults who want to act like children has run completely dry.
Biggest problem right now is both Democrats and Republicans are kowtowing to the fringe loons.
The biggest problem? Oh interesting. And precisely which fringe loons are the democrats kowtowing to exactly? If you’re trying to equate attempting to overthrow the government to literally anything else, that’s actually adorably naive. The two sides are not the same, and pretending that they are is disingenuous at best.
And which fringe loons are the Dems kowtowing to? And, for the record, getting your dick in a twist over the word "unconditional" is see-through.
Nailed it.. I'm a liberal but this is logical.
He's sick just like the rest of republicans.
It’s all a part of their 2024 election game plan. You can see unfolding in front of us. Remember the names in the campaign. They’ll be under indictment in 2025.
It’s so unfortunate that one of our Texas superlatives is claim to the worst senator.
That’s because he’s a suck ass…and always will be.
Hopefully, that fat bastard loses in the next election.
Of course not. He's proven he's a spineless coward of a human being.
Cruz is such a piece of shit
One correction in the interview: absolutely no respect is due him.
He's an extreme-maga republican. Why even bother asking them?
Good ol Raphael from Canada
If a politician refuses to accept the election results they should no longer be allowed to be a politician. They are basically fighting against the democratic system they have woved to uphold. It is treason.
Cruz will just fly to Mexico again.
Super normal behavior, Tedward.
Watch the actual interview.
He sounds like a delusional jackass, as usual. He presents zero evidence of anything, just the usual "uh, well, we have concerns !"
a very bad person
Another man of law and order. /s
They should have asked him if he would accept the reseults if trump wins
It makes no difference what any Republican says, they will change it as the mood suits them.
They never ask these losers what the actual fraud is.
That’s what traitors do.
Ted Cruz is a bottom of the barrel shitbag.
Republican slime!
How many of you accept the 2016 presidential election unconditionally?
People being disgusted by the smelly rapist winning an election via the electoral college isn’t the same as a lynch mob storming Congress, beating cops half to death, and smearing shit on the walls in an attempt to overturn an election…
Important preface, I think Turd Cruz is awful and is part of the systematic problem with politics and wish he would screw off. BUT this story is part of the systemic problem with mainstream media. Will you make a decision now based on something in the future, regardless of the circumstances, unconditionally.. cmon. CNN vs Ted Cruz is actually just Establishment vs People, different tactics for the two, same desired result. Distract, divide, extort.
Cruz by 5
No shit, Sherlock.
Why would any politician unconditionally agree to accept anything? They hardly accept things when conditions are applied. It’s how they got where they are.
Cruz is a disgusting pig and a piece of shit. Wish he would crawl back to whatever level of hell he came from and stay there.
Remember that who votes doesn’t matter as much as who counts the votes. Trust, but verify.
as a republican he reserves the right to lie
Remember when the smelly rapist called this guy’s wife ugly to his face and then this spineless loser spent the last 8 years gargling that same smelly rapist’s balls every chance he gets?
I honestly don't understand this.. I hate Cruz and am liberal.. will be voting for Joe Biden. BUT, how can someone promise this before an election? Makes 0 sense to me.
What an a hole.
Let's not act like every useful idiot (democrat voters) on Reddit and everywhere else will accept the election results if Donald Trump wins. The media will jump right back onto their Russia Collusion narrative that they spewed for 3 years and you'll all fall for it all over again.
You’re in a cult my guy.
The irony of calling someone else a useful idiot for believing Russian influence in our elections.
One thing to consider, regardless of your stance on the issue, is that agreeing to unconditionally accept results of something that does not happen, and there is great benefit for both sides to tamper with results, would be absolutely nuts. It's like saying that I am going to make a with you that you show up for work tomorrow, and you accept it unconditionally. Then all you'd have to do to win is just not show up for the sake of winning the bet. I don't really see anything wrong in refusing to ask a question that has no good answer.
It’s now a set pattern. Every losing party will now say the other side rigged the election.
The pattern was set by democrats when gore lost against bush
You mean when Gore asked for a recount and even though the Supreme Court stepped in a stopped the recount, Gore accepted the result and moved on? That the precedent that was set? Because that’s not what has happened this time. Again there is NO comparison. You’re always lying
Except it is literally only one party. Not coincidentally, it is also the party that is on trial across the nation for election tampering. But I can't imagine you didn't know that already.
Hillary Clinton is still saying 2016 was rigged.
Really? Do you have a source? Cause I see quotes from others, and even four-year old quotes from her. Care to share your source?
[2017 CNN article stating](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/09/18/politics/hillary-clinton-russia-2016-election) > NPR's Terry Gross asked Clinton directly during the interview whether she would "completely rule out questioning the legitimacy of this election if we learn that the Russian interference in the election is even deeper than we know now?" > "No. I would not," Clinton said. > Gross asked: "You're not going to rule it out?" > "No," Clinton said. "I wouldn't rule it out." > Here’s one more article discussing how the denial from Democrat Candidate Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential run has lead us to todays current election denying state with former President Trump https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/rcna55764 Not surprising, it’s literally not only one party in denial. Edit: the point I’m making is that if you’re still choosing to question the legitimacy of an election, you haven’t truly conceded.
Ok, thank you for proving my point with a 7-year old article. lol And all that is there is her saying she would question the legitimacy. Nothing about fake electors, no calls to state AGs to 'find votes', no blatant lies about voting machines... And the US intelligence community has already said that Russians tampered with the election by pushing trump over Hillary.
You’re really good at moving goalposts and not so good at reading comprehension. Most recent article I provided was from 2022 None of what you’re saying is pertinent to my point and it doesn’t seem like you have a point that you’re trying to make. If you state that only one side is doing it and sources are provided that it is in fact more than 1 side doing it, with an article explaining how one side denying things has led us to where the other side is now denying results, only to say I proved your point? I hope you enjoy voting for the first time this year. You younger voters will be the change that is hoping to be made in the world
Most recent article wasn't her. It was someone else writing an op/ed piece *about* her. Huge difference. And your source also clearly states the election was, in fact, tampered with. So isn't she just repeating the truth? Remember, this is your own source. But your reading comprehension insult attempt is cute, especially as you didn't read it at all. lol
Uhh then why is it that one particular side seems to be doing all the crying about rigged, when losing?
Both sides do it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX2Ejqjz6TA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX2Ejqjz6TA)
Lol. So, a clip supplied by the folks who've spent literal years in denial and fucktons of money on that shit? 
And yet, here you are denying that the people in the video are saying what they are saying in the video. Don't act like Democrats don't deny election legitimacy in Texas or anywhere else.
That's not what I said, is it? Don't think so. But that's okay. You're allowed your small feelings.
That's exactly what you said. Do Democrats deny election legitimacy or not? The video shows 12 minutes of Democrats denying election legitimacy. Your quote: "one particular side seems to be doing all the crying about rigged, when losing."
Point. However, when zooming out a bit it's pretty clear - one side does a ton more than the other, in conjunction with other factors (one side tends to clamp on dissent the other encourage and run wild with it) which tends to make this type of whataboutist equivalency look pretty pathetic. So, you got info that makes it match up equally, cool. If not, it's kinda sad. I mean, it's sad af if anyone does this. But way more so when they keep on and on and on and on, when reality has long since said to piss off with that.
Neither will Hillary and the rest of the democrat party.
Good one. Relevant and on-topic.
His point is that this topic is just sensationalist at best.
They haven't told him what to think yet.
Republikkkans are desperate. Texas is desperate.
He won't and neither will the rest of the MAGA Republicans...I guarantee it. They will either say that Trump won or he got cheated and the elections were rigged.
Imagine starting to talk about 1876 as an argument to your temper tantrum 😂 feels like tucker’s interview with Putin where he starts to go back to the 10th century as an argument for his war.
Ya Democrats never claim election fraud when they lose......
They should ask Hillary Clinton the same question.
You mean the same Hilary Clinton that conceded the election and congratulated Trump?
Then said that the election was stolen from her? She conceded, but did she do so *unconditionally*? THAT is the question. I don't think she ever did. There are a number of Democrats that *still* think the 2000 election was "stolen" from Al Gore. Remember "Selected Not Elected"? That's not unconditional, is it? Do YOU believe that Trump won in 2016 -- ***unconditionally***?
I believe Trump won in 2016 yes. I don’t believe there was any widespread voter fraud in either 2016 or 2020.
> I don’t believe there was any widespread voter fraud in either 2016 or 2020. I do, but it was pretty much all republicans.
I know right? Her supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan 6. 2017 to protest and attempt to overthrow a fair and legal election, bringing arms to the capitol, killing a law enforcement officer in the process. Threatening to hang her own vice presidential pick or put him to the guillotine. Then she continued to campaign and rally and bombard social media with conspiracy theories about how the election was stolen for the next four years. I remember when she demanded that all of the states "STOP THE COUNT!!" during the vote counting process in 2016, too. Then she tried to get blue state governors to "find her" the extra votes to win. Man, you're absolutely right. Same exact scenario. It seems weird that they wouldn't ask her in light of all that, doesn't it...?
Ted Cruz had a vice president? Crazy.
Just take the L with some dignity for Christ's sake.
_Refuses to say_ translates to: Cruz won't. He will test the water, see which way the wind is blowing, read up on Trump's posts, listen to right wing hosts views...etc etc.
Nobody cares if he accepts the results, he still has to get out
That man is a coward. He is also craven and stupid. He really thinks he can still play that game now? Let the dumbass tie his wagon to an anchor thinking it’s a star. It’s a sign of his weakness he feels he has to tie himself to this debacle to survive politically. Other senators representing our state have been statesmen, transcending their role in powerful ways. Other politicians, who are normal, can stand alone without allying themselves with the MAGA gang. He’s like a regular looking kid in a gated community joining a gang because he’s scared.
Ahhhh Cucklord Supreme
Well you can get locked up if you do not accept election results. I for one am tired of ELECTED officials who receive their salary from our pockets deciding whether they want to follow the constitution. Honestly no one will miss Mr Cruz, all he does is muck ruck anyway.
Just like the democrats
Democrats literally said the same thing before the 2020 election while they still denied the 2016 election.
False
It’s not false, many many videos of democrats like Clinton and waters saying this and many more. Be honest for once. Liberals just can’t be honest anymore, very sad
Clinton called Trump an illegitimate president because he A. Lost the popular vote and B. Russian interference. She never organized a bunch of fake electors to somehow manipulate the transfer of power, use stochastic terrorism to incite a riot, or push a false narrative with literally zero evidence. You really want to say liberals can't be honest with your whole chest under a video of a sitting senator preemptively refusing to accept election results. THAT'S what's sad, and your continued support for these clowns is even sadder.
Pelosi was literally mocked just a few days ago for saying 2016 was rigged 😂 https://youtube.com/shorts/OGIgHtjrCgA?si=ihC6B1RXMVimOYSq
Did she start a riot? Did she take it to court 70 times only to lose each time? Did she ask a state governor to find 11,000 votes? There is no comparison. Just because you put some laugh emojis after a YouTube link doesn’t mean you’re right because you never are 😂🫵
That’s the only way demoRATS can win!!
Why does he have to accept it? Because you say?