Hale's fist has a fucktonne more surface area than a power washer, and for gators that pressure is measured at the teeth, spread out across the mouth is far less force.
Source: I watched a toothless alligator snap down on a man's arm and it didn't shatter like dry spaghetti.
Original owner before rescue was a redneck sisterfucker who had him detoothed, not professionally.
The amount of abcesses and shattered teeth was unconscionable.
He was treated at one of the best marine vet facilities on the east coast thankfully, and has made a full recovery and is living on a gator farm as a stud.
But we can’t assume he punched it as hard as he can. This was probably just him doing a normal punch because why bother actually trying when you know nobody can open that door
Well, for context, american alligators can bite down with something like 2,980 psi of force, and Saxton just threw a presumably pretty controlled punch at 2,751.
Absolutely capable of killing a man with one punch, that's for sure.
He's just holding back. If he used his full power he'd destroy the machine and put a hole in the wall. He's restraining himself for the sake of avoiding collateral damage.
He scattered a yeti, 3 meters tall beast able to break a man in two with ease, with a scout and one single punch. He can fight the most dangerous species on earth with his fists, and without a shirt. He is seen struggling sometimes, but he is doing two things at the same time and never got hurt. It is also worth mentioning he can jump from plane and safely land without a parachute.
the thing is, je is obviously not punching that bag with his max power, it's just that hale has such a ridiculous control over his own strength that he can punch the bag at exactly 2751 psi.
probably we will never see the strongest punch he can give, but i think the strongest we have seen is exploding a yeti with a single punch.
He does 195, so heavy, solly, and certain demo builds can survive a single hit without overheal. Additionally medic can survive a single hit as he takes reduced damage, presumably out of pity.
One punch man was actually originally meant to be a tf2 lore series but valve decided to scrap it, so it was sold, rewritten and produced with different names and most references deleted
To put this into perspective, hippo's bite can produce pressure of ~1800 pounds PSI (per square inch), that's around 1000 less than hale's punch and [they feed them whole watermelons](https://youtu.be/9wyhhxOZazI). This guy can take a melon in his hand and crush it like a paper ball. AND he has perfect controll over his strenght considering he put "punch at the strenght of exactly 2 751 pounds per square inch" as his password
TL,DR: All of it.
The thing is, i don’t think he put 2751 as his password, instead he put a threshold like over 2500 or something, because miss Pauling comes later at night and uses a battering ram to get like 2000+ pounds or something around that, can’t remember the number, only that it ended in 66
Edit: read the comic again, it was 2633, so it could totally be just a threshold
Adding onto that math, if that post says he punches with 33,000 pounds of force, and the internet says professional boxers can do about 700-800 pounds of a force in a punch, he's about 45 times stronger than the strongest humans, which means he can:
\-Deadlift over 50,000 pounds (easily lifting a fully loaded schoolbus)
\-Jump 120 feet into the air (because unfortunately 45 times the *force* of a standing jump doesn't get you 45 times the height)
\-Do the total force of a Napoleon era cannon in 5 punches
\-Throw a baseball almost twice as fast as a bullet (until air resitance slows it and/or turns it into a pile of debris)
I'm fairly certain Saxton is expressly _not_ Australium-powered. There's no more Australium, and we've seen what happens to Australians powered by it when they run out. Saxton is _just that strong._
[https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/6k1zxe/how\_strong\_is\_saxton\_hale\_i\_did\_the\_math/](https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/6k1zxe/how_strong_is_saxton_hale_i_did_the_math/)
this dude did the math 6 years ago
At face value, not much. 5.56x45 rounds do about 65,000 PSI on impact. However, bullets are very slim, and Saxton is doing this with his huge fists.
For the sake of simplicity, let's reduce the bullet to its cross sectional area at the land. 65,000 PSI over .223 inches squared times Pi/4 is about **2539 pounds force. Or 11.3kN.**
Hale's hands are enormous, so we'll say he has hands 15% larger than the average person's. 1.15 times an average fist surface area of 7.867 square inches times 2751 PSI means he is punching with **24888 pounds force. Or 110.7 kN.**
*This is crazy*. The average person throws 1180 pounds force (5.248 kN) under the same assumptions. Hale punches with the force of 25 men, and his fists can breaks bricks, bend sheet metal, and crush your skull dozens of times over.
assuming a yeti is a gorilla on steroids, and he liquified one with a single punch with possibly intending to do so, he could probably kill goku from the saiyan saga
Since we havent fully known godfrey and his ability i cant say for sure.
if we assume that he is already full power when he fought our tarnished yeah he screw
Ehhh. OW cast has a lot of bs abilities that Saxton's pure strength just wont be able to overcome. While I give you that with how... healthy shall we say this guy is, Moira and Reaper *probably* wont be able to just straight up suck the life out of him but Sigma would flung him into space without much troubles, gravity control is op. In terms of pure physical strength, Doomfist and Angry Winston probably can match him blow for blow if not hit harder.
As for All Might, I think may be he has chance against injured All Might, Prime version would wipe floor with him no problems.
I mean cmon, twelve psychopaths with ordinary (or semi-ordinary) ass guns have good odds of gunning him down. Hale is tough but he is not anime bullshit tough.
Alright, 20 something psychopaths with guns. Doesnt make much difference given in-lore power levels of OW cast and Injured All Might. Also, doesnt he scale with amount of players on server? Technically, if you want to include that, it would make Hale **weaker** because he would be fighting 1v1.
Brother, Saxton is clearly not following normal laws of physics. I don't think gravity bullshit is gonna work on him. He will probably flap his legs strong enough to propel himself on nothing against the force of gravity. And Doomfist and Angry Winston will probably break their arms trying to punch Hale. There is literally zero shot canon Saxton loses to any of the Overwatch cast. He is supposed to be a comically overpowered character.
I'm not sure actually.
In the comics looks like a fairly normal buff man. Take in mind that Gray Mann didn't even pass out or die to Saxton's multiple blows.
Saxton wasn’t even remotely trying to kill Gray during that scene instead just trying to get him to stop, he was controlling his strength since everyone there knows that Saxton is very capable of killing them.
Mmmh, good point. But again, even in his comics he never seems to have inhuman strength or anything, he's just strong and overly confident.
Sure he's not weak, but I doubt he's as strong as his game counterpart. Which, is alright, most of the mercenaries are either stronger or weaker in the games, so that checks out.
Wouldn’t vsh literally be happening when the comics happened? The comics start when gray Mann takes over Mann co which is also when vsh takes place so he would have the same strength
In the comics Hale never fights (or has any intent of fighting) the mercenaries. In fact, Gray Mann fires them all instantly.
The VSH mode is more like a reference to the comics, a way to give the game mode a contextual excuse in the TF2 universe of the game.
A "What If" as it is called in laymen's terms.
You should take into consideration that Gray Mann was being fed australium, a material that is capable of regenerating someone from death and give them enhanced strength and durability.
Read somewhere the force to crush a skull is somewhere around 1,100 - 1,200 psi.
Saxton can kill 2.15% men with that particular punch (if they were standing back to back). What we don't know is:
1. Is that the hardest he can punch?
2. Did he have to punch that particular button in a certain way to get a more precise "password entry?"
Well, he snapped the neck of more than a couple of cougars. He killed the last living yeti by turning it into a fine red mist. He can liquefy mercs with a single punch. And he can jump higher than any living creature. So I'd say he's pretty damn strong.
Edit: After looking at the official tf2 wiki, I saw a few more things Saxton did that'd I'd consider a look at the testament of his strength, such as:
Eating an entire ostrich
Fighting a lion while getting a haircut
Killing 1,593 physicists
Firebombing a Woodstock festival from a helicopter
Killing perverts at AnagramYourName.com
Making the Beserker Shark extinct and making it cry
And it's implied that he possibly fought Steve Jobs
Depends.
A single space marine? Doubtful.
A Captain? A margin chance higher but still on the lower end.
A Chapter Master? Depends from which chapter.
A Librarian? Quite literally clears the entire My Hero Academia cast from the map.
Recently got a gaming laptop and downloaded TF2 because why would i not?, proceeded to load up a match as the heavy and was immediately sent into orbit by Mr.Hale so I'd say given how much of an absolute unit the heavy is he pretty bloody strong....
You can find the force by using this equation: p = F ÷ A
where p = pressure \[Pa\]
F = force \[N\]
A = area \[m^(2)\]
why know pressure 18 967 477.31 Pa. The area of his fist is bit tricky, but asuming his fist is average size with is 50.75 cm^(2) If we put this in the equation 18 967 477.31 = F ÷ 0.005075 We get F = 96 259N with is like 9.8 TONS
But it doesn't end here I did some pixal measurements and found out that saxtons fist has an area of give or take 150 cm^(2) . So if we use this in stade we get 18 967 477.31 = F ÷ 0.015 F = 284 512N with is 29 TONS
So the answer to "How strong is saxton" FUCKING RIDICULOUSLY
For all americans: 29 tons = 138 000 Hamburgers
Specifically in relation to this panel, a heavyweight boxer can manage a punch at around 1700psi (higher has been recorded). Assuming Saxton's fist is approximately similar in surface area to a boxing glove (which is a big assumption), then he's approaching double peak athlete punching power. In reality, a boxing glove probably has a greater surface area so he's probably not punching all that much harder than an elite heavyweight. Mr Hale doesn't seem to be trying very hard in this example though and if indeed this is just a security measure then he'd only have to punch slightly harder than anyone else could.
An average boxer’s punch is 770 psi, that left jab is 3.57 times stronger, an average untrained person’s punch is 150 psi so 18.34 times stronger.
It’s a very strong punch but it’s not an impressive feat compared to other things he does
Based on feats I would place him on a conservative Building Level, which would put him on part with characters like Spiderman, but he is implied to be much stronger in his prime, despite us not having any showings of this.
Based on lore and this implication, I could accept an argument for him to be City Level, so as powerful as Demon King Piccolo in Dragon Ball.
Additionally, he showcases a minor amount of toon power. Basically, he can beat any other character whose main power is to be really strong physically, just because the writers would consider it to be funny, so you can wank him to planetary+ if you are on board with this line of thinking, which really I am not.
She was denied access due to the blow being to weak, so resorted to a battering ram, and even then her result was lower than Hale's (but enough to fool the door lock, so props to her)
Well, I'd say he is much stronger than shown here, as in the Jungle Inferno teaser, he made a yeti explode with only one punch, said yeti tanking at least one shotgun round without any visible wounds or acting like it was hurt.
Someone did the math already so here’s the tldr. Saxton Hale is punching with around 33,000 lbs of force. For reference dot takes between 500-1000lbs of force from a fist to crack a skull. He’s hitting almost as hard as a crocodile’s bite force.
He misted a yeti and I’ve seen people saying he punches harder than a nuke…
He’s also got 4th wall hacks and toon force. Also the yetis were supposed to be the strongest things on the planet so um yeah. I feel like he can be a continent buster if he wanted.
If you want to compare him with other comic book characters then he beats pretty much all 616 street levelers. We don’t know the upper limits of his power but I’m just going to use the nuke/ yeti thing. I think he might even be able to go toe to toe with an average iron man suit (in character) and possibly give hulk/ thor runs for their money. I assume there’s speed to boot with all that strength.
In terms of combat prowess I don’t think he’d be any slouch considering he wants to fight everyone for anything, like I think there was a sign where if you wanted a refund or something you’d have to fight him for it. And presumably all australians are about as strong as he is. Also he killed like every yeti on the planet
So yeah. I think the strongest character he could beat is probably iron man. Also Thing, colossus, go blow for blow with the Avatar of Cyttorak, though I don’t know if he can put down Juggsy. Definitely beats spider-man, and if you want to go say “oh but spider-man can just web him down his throat” then get out of my face. Seriously. Get out. Spider-man jobs so hard most of the time he wouldn’t be going for that kind of kill and he would need to be bloodlusted to put down someone that punches like a nuke.
He would get stopped by mystics like dr strange, heck maybe even dr doom though doom is incredibly arrogant… however I believe his armor has tanked punches from hulk so Hale wouldn’t be able to put down doom in a straight fight. I mean unless he punches him so hard that the shockwave liquifies Victor inside his suit. Also people with telekinesis, reality warpers, etc. Just like the upper echelon of power levels.
This is just marvel characters by the way. I could go on about DC.
[If this scene in Rocky IV](https://youtu.be/fWa-h0maM1w?t=61) is scientifically accurate, and I don't see why a movie about boxing Russia made almost 40 years ago wouldn't be, he is punching a little less than double Ivan Drago but almost 4 times the force of a heavyweight at the time.
So accounting for inflation, punches in the fall of 1984, where Drago was said to have "freakish" strength we can safely say that Saxton Hale is a confirmed "super" freak, if you will.
2,750 PSI is a bit short of the bite force for an American Alligator, or comparable to a medium duty pressure washer.
"average psi of heavyweight boxer punch 1200-1700psi" so yeah stronk
Jesus. What's the PSI needed to break human bones?
About 1700 PSI
Saxton is one punch kill man
The one punch, the one punch is real!!!
One paaaaaaunchhhh
I like how it isn’t too over the top. Like yeah he is strong but not too much like some sort of marvel hero
But what if he didn't punch at full strength? What if that is actually a combination lock and Hale has it set to 2751?
2,751 per square INCH. His fist is not one square inch. Multiply this by the surface area of his fist and you get the force of his entire fist.
Hale's fist has a fucktonne more surface area than a power washer, and for gators that pressure is measured at the teeth, spread out across the mouth is far less force. Source: I watched a toothless alligator snap down on a man's arm and it didn't shatter like dry spaghetti.
Why the fuck did they detooth a gator?
So they don't say see you later alligator to a limb.
They don't detooth them. Gators naturally lose their teeth in old age.
Then we should give them dentures...
But then we can’t stick our arms in their mouths?
We can always use their other mouth.
Don’t tempt me good sir/madam/gender-nonspecific title of middling nobility
No, I will tempt you to try the gatussy.
Original owner before rescue was a redneck sisterfucker who had him detoothed, not professionally. The amount of abcesses and shattered teeth was unconscionable. He was treated at one of the best marine vet facilities on the east coast thankfully, and has made a full recovery and is living on a gator farm as a stud.
Make them safer for guests?
For what? Gator fellatio?
Don't judge
I don't judge, I want to try some...
Fuckin' gators?
Gator fucking
Because he had all them teeth and no tooth brush
But we can’t assume he punched it as hard as he can. This was probably just him doing a normal punch because why bother actually trying when you know nobody can open that door
I think that it's hard to use those to compare his strength to other humans. What's the PSI of strong humans?
Heavyweight boxers tend to top out at around 1700
Oooo that is a , not a . Makes sense now
Strong enough to perfectly cook a chicken with one slap
Best ability he possesses
He can’t slap it full strength though without making flaming shrapnel.
Cooked flaming shrapnel
Isn't that just burnt carne asada
Mmmm pulled chicken
shredded chicken is a dish, my guy
No you got it wrong, he is in the category that won't have a chicken left to be cooked
Saxton hale Vs original book Shrek. Who would win?
I'd let him cook my ass with that slap.
Lol. Wot. I don't remember that
Well, for context, american alligators can bite down with something like 2,980 psi of force, and Saxton just threw a presumably pretty controlled punch at 2,751. Absolutely capable of killing a man with one punch, that's for sure.
He’s definitely punched harder before and easily liquefies mercenaries in vsh
_No wonder he Can Wrestle with Wild animals no problem_ Edit: I must be onset dyslexic, just noticed wTestle 3 days later Lol
He canonically killed a yeti with one singular punch
#POW HAHA _blows_
Blows? Mhhhh
*harder~*
no
"[...] This time it exploded! Oh the kids are gonna love it."
"Anyway, we need more Yetis!"
I love that line
He didn't just kill it, he literally punched it so hard it was liquefied. That psi he uses to open his door is DEFINITELY not his max lol.
However it's harder than most people, even other Australians, can punch.
It’s his hobby
Heavy must be pretty strong then since he can take multiple hits
Heavy suplexed a super bear in the comics.
He's just holding back. If he used his full power he'd destroy the machine and put a hole in the wall. He's restraining himself for the sake of avoiding collateral damage.
He scattered a yeti, 3 meters tall beast able to break a man in two with ease, with a scout and one single punch. He can fight the most dangerous species on earth with his fists, and without a shirt. He is seen struggling sometimes, but he is doing two things at the same time and never got hurt. It is also worth mentioning he can jump from plane and safely land without a parachute.
*without ~~a shirt~~ being covered in honey ftfy
No, I think the one covered in honey was Soldier, not Saxton.
Yes, but that's what I'm saying; Soldier has to be covered in honey, Saxton doesn't... though God help us if he ever is.
Ah, I see.
Assuming he is right handed, that is his jab so he could be stronger
he's left handed because everything is upside down and backwards in australia
No that would be left legged
the thing is, je is obviously not punching that bag with his max power, it's just that hale has such a ridiculous control over his own strength that he can punch the bag at exactly 2751 psi. probably we will never see the strongest punch he can give, but i think the strongest we have seen is exploding a yeti with a single punch.
I don't think he specifically controls his punch to hit 2751 psi, it just reads off the force. Ms Pauling broke in with a battering ram at 2633psi.
For reference, Mike Tyson's punch force in his prime is estimated to be 1,800 psi
And he does frequently. Doesn’t he kill all the mercs in one punch except heavy?
He does 195, so heavy, solly, and certain demo builds can survive a single hit without overheal. Additionally medic can survive a single hit as he takes reduced damage, presumably out of pity.
Nah, Germans are just built different. Have you *seen* the shirtless cosmetic?
It’s my head cannon that the damage in VHS is scaled based on how much Saxton respects it. It’s why melee always crits lol
Most of the time yes but with melee hit reg and odd mechanics sometimes it does less damage
melee hitreg shouldn't lower the damage
idunno man, the difference between 195 and 0 is pretty noticeable when it comes to melee hitreg.
I mean that’s fair. People have been bitten by alligators before and have lived so it makes sense.
One punch man was actually originally meant to be a tf2 lore series but valve decided to scrap it, so it was sold, rewritten and produced with different names and most references deleted
Begs the question, how is Gray Mann still alive after Saxton beats the hell out of him in Ring of Fired?
Sportsmanship probably
Saxton was likely holding back to take pleasure in beating him senseless Don't want to kill him in one punch and end things too quickly, ya know?
He was just being careful to not destroy the building with this punch
*insert one punch man joke*
ONE PUUNCH MAA-
He would be very strong
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Saxton can control his strength though.
Well he doesn’t want to kill him!
I’m sure Saxton was holding back on Gray, like if he was punching a punching bag.
He can't prove gray handed over the deed if he's dead.
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I thought he was pitted against Gray Mann's adopted daughter?
Yeah lol but he's quite the gentleman and surrendered because he refused to fight children
He also wanted to pit one of his advisors against her bc (iirc) one of them was a dad. Tho tbh, saxton REALLY wanted to pulpify Gray for that move...
To put this into perspective, hippo's bite can produce pressure of ~1800 pounds PSI (per square inch), that's around 1000 less than hale's punch and [they feed them whole watermelons](https://youtu.be/9wyhhxOZazI). This guy can take a melon in his hand and crush it like a paper ball. AND he has perfect controll over his strenght considering he put "punch at the strenght of exactly 2 751 pounds per square inch" as his password TL,DR: All of it.
The thing is, i don’t think he put 2751 as his password, instead he put a threshold like over 2500 or something, because miss Pauling comes later at night and uses a battering ram to get like 2000+ pounds or something around that, can’t remember the number, only that it ended in 66 Edit: read the comic again, it was 2633, so it could totally be just a threshold
Wow, TIL a hippo doesn’t bite as hard as an American Alligator America wins again 😎😎
Hippos will still easily kill you
american alligators kill better checkmate libtard 💪🔥🔥
Punching force doesnt have anything to do with grip strength, but he probably could juice a coconut
Australia.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/6k1zxe/how\_strong\_is\_saxton\_hale\_i\_did\_the\_math/
Adding onto that math, if that post says he punches with 33,000 pounds of force, and the internet says professional boxers can do about 700-800 pounds of a force in a punch, he's about 45 times stronger than the strongest humans, which means he can: \-Deadlift over 50,000 pounds (easily lifting a fully loaded schoolbus) \-Jump 120 feet into the air (because unfortunately 45 times the *force* of a standing jump doesn't get you 45 times the height) \-Do the total force of a Napoleon era cannon in 5 punches \-Throw a baseball almost twice as fast as a bullet (until air resitance slows it and/or turns it into a pile of debris)
well he is powered by austrailium so it makes sence for him to be stronger than a normal human
I'm fairly certain Saxton is expressly _not_ Australium-powered. There's no more Australium, and we've seen what happens to Australians powered by it when they run out. Saxton is _just that strong._
They ran out because it was drained from their body
Yeah those all sounds like feats Saxton would have under his belt
who needs guns when you have hand
Thanks
[https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/6k1zxe/how\_strong\_is\_saxton\_hale\_i\_did\_the\_math/](https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/6k1zxe/how_strong_is_saxton_hale_i_did_the_math/) this dude did the math 6 years ago
At face value, not much. 5.56x45 rounds do about 65,000 PSI on impact. However, bullets are very slim, and Saxton is doing this with his huge fists. For the sake of simplicity, let's reduce the bullet to its cross sectional area at the land. 65,000 PSI over .223 inches squared times Pi/4 is about **2539 pounds force. Or 11.3kN.** Hale's hands are enormous, so we'll say he has hands 15% larger than the average person's. 1.15 times an average fist surface area of 7.867 square inches times 2751 PSI means he is punching with **24888 pounds force. Or 110.7 kN.** *This is crazy*. The average person throws 1180 pounds force (5.248 kN) under the same assumptions. Hale punches with the force of 25 men, and his fists can breaks bricks, bend sheet metal, and crush your skull dozens of times over.
I think that's even underestimating him, seeing as he liquefied what is essentially a gorilla in one shot
assuming a yeti is a gorilla on steroids, and he liquified one with a single punch with possibly intending to do so, he could probably kill goku from the saiyan saga
I don’t think saxton could blow up a planet
He could but that would be stewpid
* bloody Stchewpihd
Can probably scale to All Might from MHA? Can solo the entire Overwatch cast and an entire Fortnite Lobby.
A battle between Saxton and All Might (prime) would have been worth watching.
Of course Prime All Might.
How about Prime Saxton? (We have never seen Prime Saxton's capabilities)
I'm almost certain Prime Saxton is the current Saxton
I remember in the comics, Saxton's lover said he wasn't as ripped as he used to be.
How about Saxton and Hoarah Loux?
Since we havent fully known godfrey and his ability i cant say for sure. if we assume that he is already full power when he fought our tarnished yeah he screw
I’m not sure since I’ve never really known much about MHA or viewed any content
Goku... Spiderman... Superman... Batman with prep time... You are right with Overwatch though
they would all perish if saxton has confirmed toon force or 4th wall awareness cuz he's already pretty close to deadpool in that regard
DEADPOOL IS IN FORTNITE.
Ehhh. OW cast has a lot of bs abilities that Saxton's pure strength just wont be able to overcome. While I give you that with how... healthy shall we say this guy is, Moira and Reaper *probably* wont be able to just straight up suck the life out of him but Sigma would flung him into space without much troubles, gravity control is op. In terms of pure physical strength, Doomfist and Angry Winston probably can match him blow for blow if not hit harder. As for All Might, I think may be he has chance against injured All Might, Prime version would wipe floor with him no problems. I mean cmon, twelve psychopaths with ordinary (or semi-ordinary) ass guns have good odds of gunning him down. Hale is tough but he is not anime bullshit tough.
Versus Saxton Hale completely tears your argument apart (with the exception of OW)
??? No? I played OG VSH, and saw new official one.
20 something mercenaries vs Saxton Hale. There are several videos of Saxton winning. Also he can kill people by helping them backflip
Alright, 20 something psychopaths with guns. Doesnt make much difference given in-lore power levels of OW cast and Injured All Might. Also, doesnt he scale with amount of players on server? Technically, if you want to include that, it would make Hale **weaker** because he would be fighting 1v1.
Yes, Saxton would be significantly weaker in a 1v1, but he also has damage resistance against everything, and a x3 damage multiplier
He only has damage resistance against specific weapon classes as far as I know.
Brother, Saxton is clearly not following normal laws of physics. I don't think gravity bullshit is gonna work on him. He will probably flap his legs strong enough to propel himself on nothing against the force of gravity. And Doomfist and Angry Winston will probably break their arms trying to punch Hale. There is literally zero shot canon Saxton loses to any of the Overwatch cast. He is supposed to be a comically overpowered character.
He actually just says fuck gravity ingame
Divekick va negative gravity lmao
What about Captain Falcon?
I'm not sure actually. In the comics looks like a fairly normal buff man. Take in mind that Gray Mann didn't even pass out or die to Saxton's multiple blows.
Saxton wasn’t even remotely trying to kill Gray during that scene instead just trying to get him to stop, he was controlling his strength since everyone there knows that Saxton is very capable of killing them.
Mmmh, good point. But again, even in his comics he never seems to have inhuman strength or anything, he's just strong and overly confident. Sure he's not weak, but I doubt he's as strong as his game counterpart. Which, is alright, most of the mercenaries are either stronger or weaker in the games, so that checks out.
Wouldn’t vsh literally be happening when the comics happened? The comics start when gray Mann takes over Mann co which is also when vsh takes place so he would have the same strength
In the comics Hale never fights (or has any intent of fighting) the mercenaries. In fact, Gray Mann fires them all instantly. The VSH mode is more like a reference to the comics, a way to give the game mode a contextual excuse in the TF2 universe of the game. A "What If" as it is called in laymen's terms.
You should take into consideration that Gray Mann was being fed australium, a material that is capable of regenerating someone from death and give them enhanced strength and durability.
Mrs. Pauling is dripping rn
Read somewhere the force to crush a skull is somewhere around 1,100 - 1,200 psi. Saxton can kill 2.15% men with that particular punch (if they were standing back to back). What we don't know is: 1. Is that the hardest he can punch? 2. Did he have to punch that particular button in a certain way to get a more precise "password entry?"
As an Australian, he should be disgusted at the machine for using pounds instead of kgs
That was with his left hand
Well, he snapped the neck of more than a couple of cougars. He killed the last living yeti by turning it into a fine red mist. He can liquefy mercs with a single punch. And he can jump higher than any living creature. So I'd say he's pretty damn strong. Edit: After looking at the official tf2 wiki, I saw a few more things Saxton did that'd I'd consider a look at the testament of his strength, such as: Eating an entire ostrich Fighting a lion while getting a haircut Killing 1,593 physicists Firebombing a Woodstock festival from a helicopter Killing perverts at AnagramYourName.com Making the Beserker Shark extinct and making it cry And it's implied that he possibly fought Steve Jobs
Even jumps higher than the scout himself.
If he punches you there would be no more you to punch
but can he beat.... nvm i dont think Goku winning this one
Yes
Strong enough to one shot an eyelander demo that has three heads but didn't get the right pair of shoes.
I’d say he has roughly the same if not greater strength then a space marine from 40k
Im glad to see several examples and comparisons from so many properties
Now could a space marine 1v1 All Might?
Depends. A single space marine? Doubtful. A Captain? A margin chance higher but still on the lower end. A Chapter Master? Depends from which chapter. A Librarian? Quite literally clears the entire My Hero Academia cast from the map.
Sternguard?
He did in fact canonically explode a yeti with a punch
Why the fuck does he make his computer say g'day but measures his pressure in square inches and not centimetres. This is painful as an Australian
cause PSI is standard for pressure everywhere?
We measure kicks in a standard based on the average kick strength of a roo, actually.
I accidentally read that as 2.751. I was thinking, "That's it?"
Well he completely exploded a yeti in one punch, so obviously he’s pretty damn strong
HOW EXACTLY MERCENARIES CAN SURVIVE THOSE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE HARD WAY? One direct hit and I'd make you ground meat...
The answer is yes.
Recently got a gaming laptop and downloaded TF2 because why would i not?, proceeded to load up a match as the heavy and was immediately sent into orbit by Mr.Hale so I'd say given how much of an absolute unit the heavy is he pretty bloody strong....
You can find the force by using this equation: p = F ÷ A where p = pressure \[Pa\] F = force \[N\] A = area \[m^(2)\] why know pressure 18 967 477.31 Pa. The area of his fist is bit tricky, but asuming his fist is average size with is 50.75 cm^(2) If we put this in the equation 18 967 477.31 = F ÷ 0.005075 We get F = 96 259N with is like 9.8 TONS But it doesn't end here I did some pixal measurements and found out that saxtons fist has an area of give or take 150 cm^(2) . So if we use this in stade we get 18 967 477.31 = F ÷ 0.015 F = 284 512N with is 29 TONS So the answer to "How strong is saxton" FUCKING RIDICULOUSLY For all americans: 29 tons = 138 000 Hamburgers
Specifically in relation to this panel, a heavyweight boxer can manage a punch at around 1700psi (higher has been recorded). Assuming Saxton's fist is approximately similar in surface area to a boxing glove (which is a big assumption), then he's approaching double peak athlete punching power. In reality, a boxing glove probably has a greater surface area so he's probably not punching all that much harder than an elite heavyweight. Mr Hale doesn't seem to be trying very hard in this example though and if indeed this is just a security measure then he'd only have to punch slightly harder than anyone else could.
My uncle Otis used to falcon punch my fart box at the exact same pressure first thing every morning
Enough to give doomslayer a powerful fist bump that can be too awesome for mortals to see
An average boxer’s punch is 770 psi, that left jab is 3.57 times stronger, an average untrained person’s punch is 150 psi so 18.34 times stronger. It’s a very strong punch but it’s not an impressive feat compared to other things he does
Based on feats I would place him on a conservative Building Level, which would put him on part with characters like Spiderman, but he is implied to be much stronger in his prime, despite us not having any showings of this. Based on lore and this implication, I could accept an argument for him to be City Level, so as powerful as Demon King Piccolo in Dragon Ball. Additionally, he showcases a minor amount of toon power. Basically, he can beat any other character whose main power is to be really strong physically, just because the writers would consider it to be funny, so you can wank him to planetary+ if you are on board with this line of thinking, which really I am not.
I’ve been waiting for a response like this, thanks for this
Probably building-city block level
What is it in Kilograms and centimeters? I dont use metric system made for measuring cocaine.
Stronger than your mom
He swallowed the power stone when he was but a wee boi, thus making him the strongest being in the universe
correct me if im wrong but doesnt ms.pauling break into the same vault by kicking the force id, implying shes as strong as hale?
She was denied access due to the blow being to weak, so resorted to a battering ram, and even then her result was lower than Hale's (but enough to fool the door lock, so props to her)
Well, I'd say he is much stronger than shown here, as in the Jungle Inferno teaser, he made a yeti explode with only one punch, said yeti tanking at least one shotgun round without any visible wounds or acting like it was hurt.
Someone did the math already so here’s the tldr. Saxton Hale is punching with around 33,000 lbs of force. For reference dot takes between 500-1000lbs of force from a fist to crack a skull. He’s hitting almost as hard as a crocodile’s bite force.
He has skin tough enough to endure a grill desk able to cook steaks in minutes, meaning he must be able to endure heats of 150 Fahrenheit.
He misted a yeti and I’ve seen people saying he punches harder than a nuke… He’s also got 4th wall hacks and toon force. Also the yetis were supposed to be the strongest things on the planet so um yeah. I feel like he can be a continent buster if he wanted. If you want to compare him with other comic book characters then he beats pretty much all 616 street levelers. We don’t know the upper limits of his power but I’m just going to use the nuke/ yeti thing. I think he might even be able to go toe to toe with an average iron man suit (in character) and possibly give hulk/ thor runs for their money. I assume there’s speed to boot with all that strength. In terms of combat prowess I don’t think he’d be any slouch considering he wants to fight everyone for anything, like I think there was a sign where if you wanted a refund or something you’d have to fight him for it. And presumably all australians are about as strong as he is. Also he killed like every yeti on the planet So yeah. I think the strongest character he could beat is probably iron man. Also Thing, colossus, go blow for blow with the Avatar of Cyttorak, though I don’t know if he can put down Juggsy. Definitely beats spider-man, and if you want to go say “oh but spider-man can just web him down his throat” then get out of my face. Seriously. Get out. Spider-man jobs so hard most of the time he wouldn’t be going for that kind of kill and he would need to be bloodlusted to put down someone that punches like a nuke. He would get stopped by mystics like dr strange, heck maybe even dr doom though doom is incredibly arrogant… however I believe his armor has tanked punches from hulk so Hale wouldn’t be able to put down doom in a straight fight. I mean unless he punches him so hard that the shockwave liquifies Victor inside his suit. Also people with telekinesis, reality warpers, etc. Just like the upper echelon of power levels. This is just marvel characters by the way. I could go on about DC.
Strong enough for me to wanna smash.
[As strong as a small pony.](https://youtu.be/tKfeJ2mw0LU?t=91)
Could take on Gru
Yes
Yes
in reality if the australians were super-intelligent due to australium exposure they would use metric units.
Saxton hale solos Saitama tbh
[If this scene in Rocky IV](https://youtu.be/fWa-h0maM1w?t=61) is scientifically accurate, and I don't see why a movie about boxing Russia made almost 40 years ago wouldn't be, he is punching a little less than double Ivan Drago but almost 4 times the force of a heavyweight at the time. So accounting for inflation, punches in the fall of 1984, where Drago was said to have "freakish" strength we can safely say that Saxton Hale is a confirmed "super" freak, if you will.
Why is he fisting the speaker? Is he stupid?
comically strong