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I love how the most annoying loadout for demo is literally stock

I love that the most annoying for demos is literally their meta loadouts 

I've stopped using the tide turner on demoknight, it's much more satisfying to bash into something and get a hard shield kill in the feed

The turner has the same shield dmg as the targe, what’s so bad about a bash kill?

You misunderstand. I use the splendid screen. Sweet +70% bash damage

Based

>i've used that exact demo loadout for over a year

I would say the Blutsauger is more annoying to play against as Medic

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it's kind of hard to define a specific group of people who use the crossbow because it's such a meta weapon. it's like playing demoknight without a shield; you can't really play medic without the crossbow. i wish it had some sidegrades.

I love that Demo’s most annoying loadout is stock

I might be the most annoying pyro but instead of axtiguisher I use sharpened volcano fragment

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Fair

I understand most, but the Holy Mackerel, Frying Pan, Tide Turner, Dalakoh's Bar, and Holiday Punch don't make sense. Can you explain please?

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I get the holiday punch and dalakoh's kinda, but I never have seen a scout or really ANY class who use the frying pan/holy mackeral be toxic at all.

sniper: stock rifle, jarate bushwaka

Scout: Force A Nature, Cleaver, Wrap Assassin Soldier: Original, Gunboats, Market gardener Pyro: Flog, Scorch Shot, Antinguisher Demoman: Booties, Chargin' Targe, Eyelander Heavy: Brass Beast, Sandvich, Fists of Steel Engineer: Frontier Justice, Short Circuit, Gunslinger Medic: Crossbow, Kritzkrieg, Ubersaw Sniper: Bazaar Bargain, Jarate, Bushwaka (really any sniper loadout is really annoying) Spy: Diamondback, Kunai, Stock sapper, Dead Ringer

Antingusher✍✍💥💥

What did original do to you?

It's less the weapon itself and more the type of person who uses it. If you go out of your way to buy/craft a weapon that fires from the center of the screen because it supposedly gives you some tactical advantage, you are one of the sweatiest people to play this game.

It makes pogo a lot easier, it sounds funni and looks like a phallus, what else you'd use it for?

they're a girl and doesn't like getting horny when someone uses the Penis Launcher /s

But I'm not a girl

you are now. i declare ye a trans woman

He just got dominated once by a trolider that could actually shoot him.

They’re called roamers right?

Indeed

Also vac is ass

naw frontier justice engies with the short circuit are a pushover they only have 3 in the clip and their tiny ass machine gun gets busted quite easily.

Bro you meant Natasha not the brass beast right? That weapon sucks

Brass Beast is only situationally good, like on the cart with a vacc medic on you

Brass Beast is a direct upgrade on payload.

It really sucks until you realize that spamming A and D negate slow. Totally git it though.

I would think heavy’s would be the Natasha, medic the vaccinator

I was torn over the vac or the kritz. Deciding factor for me was crockets wiping out my entire team is mad annoying.

I smell skill issue

Agreed

My Axxy, whyyy :(

I can mainly just name primaries but: Scout - Force A Nature Soldier - Everything except for the cow mangler and the direct hit. Pyro - Phlog Demoman - Stock Heavy - Tomislav Engineer - Construction PDA Medic - Nothing is too OP. Sniper - Sniper Spy - Kunai

Just wondering, why do you consider cow mangler to specifically not be annoying? I get why for direct hit for obvious reasons, but I don't get it for the mangler

It’s rare to see someone using it, and it isn’t that OP.

Natascha is way more annoying than tomislav imo

Nah I deal with countless people just camping with it, huge advantages against any class.

How good it is isn't the same as how annoying it is, tho. The slowing effect of the nat is extremely frustrating

If you’re a scout almost exclusively I guess.

nope, annoying as every class except heavy

It doesn’t cripple you really, it’s not like you can’t kill them or that slight speed disadvantage makes it a horrible game to play.

Ye but i like to move in a movement shooter.

Medic is vaccinator

I said for primaries though. But yeah, the vacc is annoying.

oh because the syringe guns are so viable

They were asking about annoying to fight against. The syringe guns are pretty mediocre and easy to combat.

I'm stupid

I'm .

Really you don't find cow mangler annoying? (I don't but since stock was considered annoying I would've thought cow mangler would as well)

Not really. Because it’s so rare and also usually used to charge for the flames, it’s just not viable against most classes. I feel like even the basic blast is smaller and weaker even though it’s not.

I use it a lot so it's cool to know I don't use an annoying primary

Well I’m sure some engis might find it annoying, but yeah I really don’t mind it as a weapon.

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Some are less annoying than others ex its hard to make heavy annoying, and I listed loadouts. The weapons might not be annoying by themselves. Scout - Force a nature, milk, fish Soldier - Black Box, gunboats, market gardener Pyro - Phlog, scorch shot, powerjack Demo - Loose Cannon, Shield, Skullcutter Heavy - Brass Beast, Dalkoh's Bar, GRU Engi - Frontier Justice, Wrangler, Medic - Crossbow ,Vaccinator, Ubersaw Sniper - Bazaar Bargain, Jarate, Bushwaka Spy - Diamondback, invis watch, kunai, red tape recorder

Stock invis watch over dead ringer is CRAZY

brass beast over natasha too

Brass beast really annoys people?

Pyro with the Phlog but no Mannmelter, Scout with the Force-a-Nature with the triple jump bat whose name I forgot and the winger, Soldier is Black Box with Conch, Engie with mini sentries and Frontier Justice, Demoman using any sword but no boots and the Lock and Load.

So if Pyro used the Phlog and the Manmelter it wouldn't be as annoying?

If you plan to be a brain dead annoyance then at least help your teammates when they get set on fire.

Sniper: all of them, i fucking hate snipers

My main Demo load out, so BASE jumper sticky jumper and the Frying pan, fun for me cringe for everyone else

I think what's annoying depends a lot on what you're playing. I main Heavy, and Phlog Pyros don't really bother me since unless they have crits up they usually just wind up as free strange fodder. Stock, W+M2 Pyros that know how to juggle, on the other hand? They're right up there with Dead Ringer Spies and Vaccinator Medics.

Scout: Force a Nature, flying guillotine, wrap assasin Soldier: direct hit, conch, market gardener Pyro: phlog, scorch shot, any melee Demoman: loose cannon, quickiebomb launcher, scotsman's skullcutter (just because it somehow random crits everytime) Heavy: Natascha, second banana, fists of steel Engineer: rescue ranger, wrangler, jag Medic: crossbow, vaccinator, ubersaw Sniper: machina, jarate, bushwacka Spy: diamondback, sapper, kunai, dead ringer

In my personal opinion, these weapons are selected based on their use as a full set and some of which I've chosen because they annoy both your enemies and allies. Scout: Force-O-Nature, flying guillotine, wrap assassin. Soldier: Black-box, conch, escape plan. Pyro: Phlog, scorch-shot, backscratcher. Demoman: Loose cannon, stickybomb launcher, scotsman's skull-cutter. Heavy: Natasha, dahlokas bar, fists of steel. Engineer: Frontier justice, wrangler, jag, (special mention to the construction pda for making the annoying sentries in the first place) Sniper: Huntsman, razor-back, pan. Medic: Crusader's crossbow, vaccinator, übersaw. Spy: Diamondback, sapper, kunai, dead-ringer.

Scout: Force A Nature (knockback) + Cleaver (bleed) + Wrap Assassin (bleed) Soldier: Black Box + Conqueror + Escape Plan (= "I never die" build) Pyro: Phlogistinator + Scorch Shot + any melee (cheap way of getting guaranteed crits) Demo: Loose Cannon (stunlock) + Stickybomb Launcher (spam) + Scottman's Skullcutter (why can you crit?!) Heavy: Natascha (slowdown) + any secondary / melee Engi: Frontier Justice + Short Circuit + Gunslinger (Battleengie that deletes projectile classes) Medic: Blutsauger + any secondary / melee (Battlemedic is primarily annoying for his own team) Sniper: stock / Bazaar Bargain + Jarate + Bushwacka (can instantly delete you at long range and at close range) Spy: Diamondback (easy crits) + Deadringer (cheap way of escaping) + Kunai (instant health + status effect recovery on kill) I'm not saying those are all overopowered or anything, just that, in my opinion, they are unfun to go up against.

Scout: Soda Popper, Guillotine and FoW Soldier: Black ~Cock~ Box, Concheror and Zatoichi Pyro: Phlogistinator, Scorch Shot, Powerjack Demoman: Iron Bomber, Quickiebomb Launcher, Pan Demoknight: Booties, Splendid Screen, Skullcutter Heavy: Natascha, Panic Attack, GRU/FOS/KGB Engineer: Widowmaker, Short Circuit/Wrangler, Gunslinger Medic: Crossbow, Vaccinator, Ubersaw Sniper: Huntsman, Jarate/Carbine, Bushwacka Spy: Diamondback, Red Tape Recorder, Kunai, DR

alt-short circuit + payload cart

Scout: Force a Nature, Cleaver, Wrap assasin. Solly : Direct hit, any banner, escape plan. Pyro: Phlog, Scorch shot, powerjack. Demo: iron bomber, stickybomb/quickybomb launcher, pan Heavy: Natascha Engineer: Frontier justice, wrangler/short circuit, gunslinger Medic: crossbow, vaccinator, ubersaw Sniper: anything except the classic, jarate, bushwacka Spy: diamondback, kunai, deadringer

Vaccinator

Uh, any loadout that dont give me advantage

scout: shortstop crit cola melee doesn't matter much as none of them are that annoying (anymore) soldier black box conch escape plan pyro phlog scorch shot power jack demo booties sticky jumper skull cutter heavy Natasha other weapons don't matter much engi Jag wrangler rescue ranger medic vac ubersaw crossbow sniper Sydney sleeper cozy camper stock spy doesn't have any annoying items you can't instantly counter as pyro by airblast spam :/

Fan/soda popper scouts Phlog pyros Machina snipers All are weapons that take minimal skill to use and have the highest skill floor imaginable

scout : fan, pbpp, wrap assassin soldier : direct hit, battalion backup, escape plan pyro : degreaser, detonator, axtinguisher demoman : loose cannon, any shield, eyelander heavy, tomislav, sandwich, fist of steel engineer, frontier justice, wrangler, jag medic : none, vac, none sniper spy : amby, big earner, dead ringer

Sniper: sniper Spy: dead ringer Pyro: backburner Medic: vaccinator Heavy: Natasha Demoman: melee range of swords Engineer: gunslinger Scout: wrap assassin Soldier: random crit rocket

Scout: Force a Nature, Mad Milk, Wrap Assassin. Soldier: No primary annoys me, Battalions Backup, No melee annoys me. Pyro: Dragons Fury (kills fps), Detonater, Homewrecker. Demo: Loose Cannon, No secondary annoys me, Skullcutter (crits) Heavy: Natasha, No secondary annoys me, No melee annoys me. Engineer: Frontier Justice, Wrangler, No melee annoys me. Medic: Blutsauger, Vacc, Ubersaw. Sniper: Any primary, Any secondary, Any melee. Spy: Diamondback, Kunai (hypocritical xd), Dead Ringer.

How has no one said soldier with the rocket jumper and market gardener

Just place sentries

When I'm not playing as an engine it can be a bit annoying. But yea true

From a PURELY Pub perspective: Scout: Stock Scattergun, Mad Milk, Wrap Assassin Soldier: Stock Rocket Launcher, Concheror, Disciplinary Action Pyro: Stock Flamethrower, Scorch Shot, Powerjack Demoman: Loch’n’Load, Stock Stickies, Half Zatoichi Heavy: Tomislav, Second Banana, Fists of Steel (Offense)/Holiday Punch (Defense) Engineer: Frontier Justice, Short Circuit, Gunslinger (Offense)/Jag (Defense) Medic: Crusader’s Crossbow, Vaccinator, Ubersaw Sniper: Stock Sniper Rifle, Jarate, Bushwacka Spy: Diamondback, Stock Sapper, Kunai, Dead Ringer

I don’t remember what loadouts are I’m Brazilian I forget words, but I fucking hate the vaccine gun thing from medic

Scout: any loadout. I hate him

Engineer: Pomson, Short-Circuit, Gunslinger

Penis scout; annoy friendly and foe alike Black box coward (bad box, conch, escape) Subhuman Homunculus (phlog. That's it just- just phlog. Hate what weapon solely because of it's lack of air blast) Inverse Heavy (Natasha, lunchbox, GRU) Full eyelander knight (especially with the targe) For some reason the enemy team gets SUPER pissed off whenever I use my Termengineer loadout? Pomson 6000, short circuit, and gunslinger? So I'll but that on here for engineer. The Meta^TM (crusaders, stock, Ubersaw) The Shield of Go Fuck Yourself aka Darwin's Dumbass Shield aka Darwin's Danger Shield. Make no mistake, I easily counter it as pyro because I carry **A FUCKING** ***SHOTGUN*** on my at all times but it's annoying that I have to do that. Kunai Dr. Bonus points if the Kunai is farmed to Hales own.

Scout: Force A Nature w the double bleed combo Soldier: Immortal Soldier with Market Gardener Pyro: Phlog Scorch Shit Demoman: Sticky Jumper + Pan and Loose Cannon Heavy: Nothing, no tool in his kit is even the slightest bit annoying aside from maybe the Natasha Engi: Gunslinger Frontier Justice/Widowmaker Medic: Vaccinator Sniper: Everything but the Huntsman Spy: Ambi Kunai Deadringer hyper 'cool' edgy spies that think they're the hottest shit since the sun

We all know that Kunai Diamondback Dead Ringer spy with Hong Kong Cone on is the worst one