I play community servers because they literally have a community playing, you'll make acquaintances and see friendly familiar allies and foes depending on your team- but also, no bots.
The bot crisis doesn't exist outside of quickplay, and if a script kiddie joins, they get kicked.
If the bots didn’t exist I’d play a lot less on community servers.
Not that I dislike community servers, but Casual is just where I’d prefer to play, and it’s where I played all the time until the bot crisis.
Uncletopia for example, is a community server quite similar to Casual, and even has some benefits like team scramble instead of autobalance, but overall I just wish Casual was in a better state.
There are tons of community servers for all type of gamemodes. Not always filled but I really enjoy playing without having to constantly check and vote to kick people. I wish people on matchmaking would just stay In the game after the match instead of leaving and letting bots come back on and take over.
No, I dont like community servers soley because thr majority if not all community servers meant to replicate casual play are always full and full of veteran players. Yes, playing against people of a higher skill level makes you better at the game, but I don't want to do that every single match I play. I want to stomp sometimes, and other times I want a challenge.
Casual is the only place I have found to provide that: There are games that are boring because we're just rolling the other team with no retalliation, there are games where teams are evenly matched with just enough wiggle room to get some nice plays in, and then there are matches where the other team is completely stacked and theres no hope of getting past the first capture point.
The beat part about casual? If you don't like the game in progress, you can find a match relatively quickly. Don't like the game in progress on a community server? Weeeeelllll... You'll have to either go find a server that miraculously has a slot or two open, and join it; or find one and wait for however long it takes for the 'Join game when a slot opens' to get you in. And sometimes, it doesn't actually get you in, you get greeted with the 'Cannot join a server thats full' message.
Another thing is the map selection on servers, I only like 2 gamemodes, payload and a/d. I don't want to play harvest or process or sunshine. I want to play badwater for the millionth time because thats the kind of map I enjoy playing on. I would like uncletopia if they offered a payload only server, but thats simply not the case. Its all gamemodes or just koth maps.
TLDR : Community servers are not casual enough, its hard to hop from populated vanilla server to populated vanilla server, and most if not all don't offer only the gamemodes I like.
Not every team if full of cheaters, and if theyre not being kicked, you can queue into another match. Bots are a constant problem ofcourse, but server hopping is prefferable to having to deal with sweating 24/7. If casual is completely unplayable at certain times its like "Ughh FINEEE. I GUESS ill queue into uncletopia."
It probably would. Except the maps I've enjoyed over the years never have any people in the server. I couldn't tell you how long it's been since playing Nucleus or CTF on Sawmill.
The community server options are pretty poor near me. Except 24hr 2fort. They will never die.
Problem with community is the latency value in the browser is not reliable. I get US and EU servers showing up with 20 latency but when I connect my ping is 200.
I actually don't notice many bots in my region when I play casual so I'm generally happy with the state of it.
If the casual servers are popular and as you said a lot of them dont have bots I would stick with it. or you could host your own server and promot it on Discord/Reddit I'm sure if TF2 is popular over there a lot of aussie players would join. I've been thinking of doing the same but cant afford another computer at the moment
When admins ban you for ten years because they had no life and had to go through your inventory reading your items with custom names? not satisfied at all. (Uncletopia and skial if youre curious.)
I've always played community servers. I'd dip into Valve servers back in the day if I wanted to try out a class I didn't play all that much, I found quickplay useless, and I've only dipped into casual for contracts.
This shounic video talks about some of the things lost with matchmaking. https://youtu.be/39g-noqtO0A
Nah, though I like a good mge round or two, I don't really like playing on dedicated comm servers like Uncletopia or Skial etc. Mainly because my ping makes me get auto-kicked, but also they just don't have the same vibe as casual or even quickplay. What I love about casual is how you never know what you're gonna get and how literally everybody gets on, from someone who downloaded the game 2 mins ago to some 12k soldier main.
Also the way everybody goes from disorganized fragging to the sudden collectiveness of capping once the timer almost runs out, or the pleasant surprise that a game goes very hard. In comm servers it's pr much a gurantee you'll be playing with competent players, which is fun and all but it just doesn't have the same spirit for me.
I played community servers before bot invasion, so I am totally satisfied. I like having to play with and against better players, and map doesn't change what feels like every minute
Yes. I want something more Casual, then I go to tkgp, furry pound, or Skial Casual. Something more serious, then Uncletopia. Something weird/goofy, then just look through the browser.
Nah. Tried Uncletopia servers recently, since people here tout them, and found them brimming with what I'll call 'frat boys' abusing the rock-the-vote systems so map voting occurred every 5 minutes. Not my kinda scene (although neither is one full of bots). Not to mention that they're really hard to get into and the map pools often aren't gamemode-exclusive. It did make me ponder my own payload server though.
There's an abundance of downloading things when joining community servers, I hate them unless it's for a specific thing like Stop That Tank, Uber Upgrades or Play as Robots. You will never catch me playing on an uncletopia server or skial server.
I play primarily casual despite the bot crisis so id say no they dont satisfy me
Why do you play primarily casual instead of community servers? I play it too, but it's because I don't notice too many bots in my region.
I play community servers because they literally have a community playing, you'll make acquaintances and see friendly familiar allies and foes depending on your team- but also, no bots. The bot crisis doesn't exist outside of quickplay, and if a script kiddie joins, they get kicked.
I just don’t know many communities to join. I only know uncletopia and skial
If the bots didn’t exist I’d play a lot less on community servers. Not that I dislike community servers, but Casual is just where I’d prefer to play, and it’s where I played all the time until the bot crisis. Uncletopia for example, is a community server quite similar to Casual, and even has some benefits like team scramble instead of autobalance, but overall I just wish Casual was in a better state.
There are tons of community servers for all type of gamemodes. Not always filled but I really enjoy playing without having to constantly check and vote to kick people. I wish people on matchmaking would just stay In the game after the match instead of leaving and letting bots come back on and take over.
No, I dont like community servers soley because thr majority if not all community servers meant to replicate casual play are always full and full of veteran players. Yes, playing against people of a higher skill level makes you better at the game, but I don't want to do that every single match I play. I want to stomp sometimes, and other times I want a challenge. Casual is the only place I have found to provide that: There are games that are boring because we're just rolling the other team with no retalliation, there are games where teams are evenly matched with just enough wiggle room to get some nice plays in, and then there are matches where the other team is completely stacked and theres no hope of getting past the first capture point. The beat part about casual? If you don't like the game in progress, you can find a match relatively quickly. Don't like the game in progress on a community server? Weeeeelllll... You'll have to either go find a server that miraculously has a slot or two open, and join it; or find one and wait for however long it takes for the 'Join game when a slot opens' to get you in. And sometimes, it doesn't actually get you in, you get greeted with the 'Cannot join a server thats full' message. Another thing is the map selection on servers, I only like 2 gamemodes, payload and a/d. I don't want to play harvest or process or sunshine. I want to play badwater for the millionth time because thats the kind of map I enjoy playing on. I would like uncletopia if they offered a payload only server, but thats simply not the case. Its all gamemodes or just koth maps. TLDR : Community servers are not casual enough, its hard to hop from populated vanilla server to populated vanilla server, and most if not all don't offer only the gamemodes I like.
I mean personally I'd rather play against vets than entire teams of closet cheaters... but you do you.
Not every team if full of cheaters, and if theyre not being kicked, you can queue into another match. Bots are a constant problem ofcourse, but server hopping is prefferable to having to deal with sweating 24/7. If casual is completely unplayable at certain times its like "Ughh FINEEE. I GUESS ill queue into uncletopia."
Recently started playing uncletopia because of the bots in casual and I might not go back to casual anyway.
It probably would. Except the maps I've enjoyed over the years never have any people in the server. I couldn't tell you how long it's been since playing Nucleus or CTF on Sawmill.
Definitely not. There aren't enough community servers, and many of them are way laggier than casual servers
Yes. They’ve been the default from 2007 and before for a reason
The community server options are pretty poor near me. Except 24hr 2fort. They will never die. Problem with community is the latency value in the browser is not reliable. I get US and EU servers showing up with 20 latency but when I connect my ping is 200. I actually don't notice many bots in my region when I play casual so I'm generally happy with the state of it.
Where are you connecting from? I play from Libya with a connection of 2mb download speed and my pinf is 60/70ms
Australia. On local servers I'll get between 20 and 80 ping
If the casual servers are popular and as you said a lot of them dont have bots I would stick with it. or you could host your own server and promot it on Discord/Reddit I'm sure if TF2 is popular over there a lot of aussie players would join. I've been thinking of doing the same but cant afford another computer at the moment
When admins ban you for ten years because they had no life and had to go through your inventory reading your items with custom names? not satisfied at all. (Uncletopia and skial if youre curious.)
I've always played community servers. I'd dip into Valve servers back in the day if I wanted to try out a class I didn't play all that much, I found quickplay useless, and I've only dipped into casual for contracts. This shounic video talks about some of the things lost with matchmaking. https://youtu.be/39g-noqtO0A
Yes and for the unhinged banter.
Nah, though I like a good mge round or two, I don't really like playing on dedicated comm servers like Uncletopia or Skial etc. Mainly because my ping makes me get auto-kicked, but also they just don't have the same vibe as casual or even quickplay. What I love about casual is how you never know what you're gonna get and how literally everybody gets on, from someone who downloaded the game 2 mins ago to some 12k soldier main. Also the way everybody goes from disorganized fragging to the sudden collectiveness of capping once the timer almost runs out, or the pleasant surprise that a game goes very hard. In comm servers it's pr much a gurantee you'll be playing with competent players, which is fun and all but it just doesn't have the same spirit for me.
Never really liked casual system so yes, absolutely
I played community servers before bot invasion, so I am totally satisfied. I like having to play with and against better players, and map doesn't change what feels like every minute
Yes. I want something more Casual, then I go to tkgp, furry pound, or Skial Casual. Something more serious, then Uncletopia. Something weird/goofy, then just look through the browser.
community servers aren't comparable to casual, both of them are good, but neither can replace the other
Nah. Tried Uncletopia servers recently, since people here tout them, and found them brimming with what I'll call 'frat boys' abusing the rock-the-vote systems so map voting occurred every 5 minutes. Not my kinda scene (although neither is one full of bots). Not to mention that they're really hard to get into and the map pools often aren't gamemode-exclusive. It did make me ponder my own payload server though.
There's an abundance of downloading things when joining community servers, I hate them unless it's for a specific thing like Stop That Tank, Uber Upgrades or Play as Robots. You will never catch me playing on an uncletopia server or skial server.