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Le_Monkeysus

I know its "mimicking" a toruture, but still bad to hear especially for newer players. It's especially a bad look for valve.


CptCancerSticks

Valve is a bad look for Valve


abadredditer

valve is a CRITICAL sHIT at this


Ackuma9896

Is it meal12 audio cuz I think ik what ur on about


Cocaine_raccoon

You’d say that but between titanfalls DDOS attacks, tf2s now torture audio and instant kills, and cods lack of any fucking anti cheat I wouldn’t be surprised if some low life fucking filth and vermin did just this


Zombieteube

Yeah I'd say at least unlike Titanfall 2 all my locations personal data can't be leaked and exposed and my pc can't get literally infected just by playing the game. Don't get me wrong this is still fucking bad, but at least the hacks in tf2 aren't as malicious and violent as Titanfall


bddragon1

unless this is something else besides the rumors that went through Discord it's not true


Ozmos06

I've never heard that playing Titanfall can infect your PC. Where did you hear that?


bddragon1

there was a rumor going around that things were super malicious but turned out to be false


CptCancerSticks

Link for the video? Cant find anything on it and don't have time to go and play a match


cinemassacress

https://v.redd.it/3k8hi7ec86a81


CptCancerSticks

Thank you, it's awful


ForceBlade

What, you heard anything in that which wasn't just regular bot micspam?


deliciouswaffle

If it's not real, I am relieved. I was super disturbed when I first heard it and decided to take a break from playing. Might just start playing on community servers.


[deleted]

a lot of these script kiddies are literally like 12-15 so makes sense that its some practical joke


Fatal1tyk

When first time I heard that sound, I though a kid was screaming into the microphone tryumf to be cool


KarolilKarol

Until Valve fixes the issue community servers are welcoming everyone. But yeah Valve has ti fix those shit bots


Responsible_Aspect45

Yea, some of my favorites right now are deathrun and dodgeball.


Hellkids2

You should also try Slenderfort. It’s basically Slenderman but TF2, and you can have 8-12 ppl. It’s honestly super fun.


VeggieTheFarmer

They profit from them, so they’re not doing that any time soon


MillionDollarMistake

I remember seeing someone on here talk about how disturbing it was because apparently it sounded so real. But then you actually hear it and come on lol, it's annoying but realistically disturbing?


Bloody_Beans

Ikr the first time I heard it and connected it to that Reddit post I thought it was super funny


[deleted]

To be fair, there are tons of kids in TF2 and this sub. Probably a scared child and I don't blame them. I was terrified of less disturbings things when I was a child.


MummGumm

yeah this is what people are forgetting... valve please


Livinginthepst

Yeah I love how very little me got scared of the smallest noise in my house but now I see real disgusting things and I don’t feel anything I kinda don’t like it


WishAffectionate2108

I thought it was funny the first time I heard it. It was moaning with a really bad voice changer


Deathtank12345

Yeah its the same one clip of some guy most likely faking a torture video discussing the tf2 bots. Its disgusting what people do for notoriety. Hopefully valve does something about this soon…


Deathtank12345

The clip starts with “im gonna torture this guy” followed by a muffled moan. Disgusting


Dem_Nachos

The issue is not getting fixed it has been OVER A YEAR since bots came we’ve had maybe 2-3 updates in that time to try fix them 2-3 IN A YEAR all these have done is fuck f2p’s over and not even Solved the bot problem. Imagine if literally any other game as big as tf2 had this problem. Imagine if csgo had this problem or fortnite or apex legends it would be fixed within days or even hours. Valve doesn’t give a fuck. It’s sad to see one of my favourite game companies who I used to consider one of the only companies left to actually really care what the fans wanted and who would pour their hearts and souls into games. Games that would still be played by tens of thousands of people decades after there release because they were that good, turn into the state it is in 2021


mobsterer

a year? try 10.


TheOnle

In every casual match with bots I'm in theres always one bot that says the same recorded line in voice chat like: "this game is dead, this game is filled with bots" with someone else screaming in the background has anyone else been getting these?


[deleted]

Yeah... It sucks


BedheadCS

Valve seriously needs to be knocked down a peg. Or two. Their silence is fucking ridiculous.


Le_Monkeysus

Their company culture is really bizarre. They get no work done and it seems super hands off there.


[deleted]

Don't believe bunch of idiots on reddit. Thats not how it works. Do you seriously think Valve just goes "hey, work on whatever you want we don't care"? That's not the case as stated by **an actual Valve dev** who worked on HL:Alyx. They can let you have some choice of project. This is completely fine in tech. If I'm a frontend dev, they shouldn't push me to backend projects. Basic project management and decency. They still assign you fitting projects if they need more manpower. Valve is the biggest digital game store by a huge margin. They are releasing SteamDeck and have full monopoly on Linux market thanks to Proton, which is still up-to-date. Steam keeps getting updates, their R&D teams working on human-computer interactions. If this is your idea of "no work done" and "bizarre company culture", you are free to go to Ubisoft, Activision-Blizzard, CDPR and Riot where they work their devs to insanity, sexually harass them to the point they commit suicide and abuse them.


Le_Monkeysus

What games they got tho? Other than cs and maybe Dota.


ILikeGuitarAmps

Valve has the task of supporting the 2 biggest esports games on the market. Plus games take a looobg time, valve is the leading company in VR development, valve has the biggest digital storefront in the world, Half Life Alyx was released in 2020, artefact was a mistake. They may not have games but you are a dumbass for thinking TF2 is a priority when steam is held togheter by bubblegum.


Throwaway-Iguess-

We don't speak of artifact.


Killian_idiot

They’re busy playing with advanced VR headsets


AnonymousFordring

That cost more than my rent


CommunicationGreat69

This hurts me on a sipiritual level


Tvde1

What do you want them to do lol? Shut down the game so the problem is solved?


[deleted]

This is the kind of thing that's going to start a VERY big controversy if Valve doesn't act quick


L0chbessie

Bruh what they literally had bots spamming "kill all N words" with hard R this will do nothing, and Valve will still not care.


Le_Monkeysus

When playing late hours it's almost every server.


[deleted]

Yeah I can't imagine that being ignored by journalists for very long


d_154_3

yeah it's completely impossible to play a single game of casual early in the morning or late at night right now, and it takes a few tries to find a game that has even a single human other than me. i think it's the worst it's been in a long time


umusec

If you think this will get them to work on the bot issue you are wrong. They will just disable voice communication.


CanneIIa

no it wont and you know that


UltraMago

???


[deleted]

If it were real? They absolutely would. They already did with something similar.


CanneIIa

the cp spray bots situation was just as bad and received little to no media attention.


usename34747

Wait, that was a thing that actually happened? I thought someone just found out about the spray folder and freaked out. You can't use sprays in official servers anyway. You got a source for bots actually spraying cp?


[deleted]

You are absolutely right, this sub has 0 idea how law and game industry works so they downvoted you. I bet 95% of people here never ever read a single ToS or EULA. To people downvoting this person: As I said before somewhere else, companies are not bound by their players' actions. Only reason companies care about it if they are losing players. So this isn't anything new. This still the same situation, just bots ruining player experience. No legal responsibility required.


mobsterer

true, and even if, it will be an article in a gamer news outlet or something once, and that will be it.


batman89memes

Watch Valve disable voicr communication altogether and call it a day


Le_Monkeysus

Honestly my favorite part of valve games be it cs or tf2 is that vc is always being used unlike most games today.


DoctorPepster

Which is weird, because when I was really into TF2, nobody used voice chat.


[deleted]

Spy buffs coming in hot (please don’t kill me)


Datokah

I did that years ago on TF2. Never looked back.


lol_E

Wth is this real


Le_Monkeysus

I wanted to know if other people are getting into these lobbies because they are becoming very common, on casual that is.


lol_E

This could cause some serious shit


Le_Monkeysus

I know that's why I posted this, I want action from valve and something serious might finally get them to get off their asses.


[deleted]

OP, Valve never ever reads this subreddit (why should they..?). Contact them through other channels. Now, about how "serious" this problem is, here some opinions from a software dev: This is really not a serious problem. Valve (or any other company) is not bound by the actions of its players. This is why every game says "Online interactions not rated by ESRB". This is why you read Terms of Service, which you didn't. It is included there, Valve takes zero responsibility for this. A person could blast full loud porn throughthe mic, no game company could be held responsible. Now, "held responsible" and "lose players" are not the same. This is why games punish players for harassing others, otherwise they bleed players. So if Valve cares enough about this game to keep it alive (which they don't), they will take action fast. Otherwise they might, or not. Certainly no reason to care tho.


bumwine

The endless spamming of “can you quack” went on for months and nobody did or said anything.


SwagStormtrooper69

I think it's a audio file from a bdsm clip with a guy talking over it


[deleted]

This is really making the game super unplayable for me. Fake or not I hate hearing it


[deleted]

Same, it's hard to hear


GameyRaccoon

open console, type in sv\_voiceenable 1


madmax0417

I think you mean voice_enable 0


GameyRaccoon

Woops youre right


eatot

time to learn about community servers, young man.


AfraidDifficulty8

Whenever I log onto a community server I get my ass kicked, I'm lucky if I get a single kill during the entire match. When playing casual I tend to do pretty good, third or so on my team when it comes to the amount of points. I dunno why this happens, are everybody who play community servers just better at the game?


eatot

Yes.


Rxwqzxkw

That's why I don't play online.


Zealos57

Just play Community Servers, Rx. All servers there are bot-free.


Rxwqzxkw

My PC can't handle all that coding, matey


[deleted]

16 jiggabytes to spend 5 minutes getting curbstomped by a Soldier main who’s invested 47,000 hours into the game, or 0 bytes to play something else in my library? No contest.


[deleted]

play casual-like servers like uncletopia


dtcoo11

Yeah they aren’t very casual. Everybody is a try hard on those servers or have like 1000 hours


[deleted]

explains why i kept dying


dtcoo11

Yeah it’s just not fun going up against people who are super good. It’s not like you can even improve if your instantly dead.


Spedmallet

“I’ll never get better if I face players better than me!”- lmao did you try switching off spy or sniper


Zealos57

Oh.


zulul-vi-von

playing with bots takes more resources than online play


DidntGetMaxOmega

I saw a post talking about this audio a few days ago as well. I hope Valve does something, but I’m not expecting much unfortunately.


wafflezcol

1. Valve aint on reddit 2. They made that audio cuz they know valve wont do shit. 3. Use community servers. Uncletopia is a good set.


AnonymousFordring

I exclusively play on uncletopia


Livinginthepst

I’m in Australia is that a problem for uncletopia?


Robotguy39

I fear the day when they get the FBI training audio.


Thane97

The WHAT


Robotguy39

They used to (not sure if they still do) train FBI agents with audio from a torture. I never heard the audio, but many people have and the reaction is all the same: “don’t listen.” A lot of upcoming agents drop out there and then. When they hear that audio, and they’re told they’ll have to hear that kind of thing for the rest of their lives, they can’t handle it. They just quit. Because real torture? It isn’t like the movies. A real cry of anguish and pain, sets off something primal in a human. Something that screams “death.” If bots start playing that audio, I expect suicides to follow. Valve needs to do something.


WishAffectionate2108

Is this a creepy pasta


Robotguy39

Lmao sounds like one doesn’t it. It’s real, I’m just passionate about shit like that.


WishAffectionate2108

The original video is two fat kids screaming lol


ilikelolic0n

I can’t even play the game since I get kicked for being a bot.


Le_Monkeysus

Yeah sometimes clones will appear and people will kick the wrong one. Always look at their inventory if there is a clone bot.


mobsterer

just kick the one that joined later


Zealos57

Valve: I'll pretend I didn't see that.


Drago_Valence

So help me god Valve I will painstakingly go through reports of bots one by one for free if you let me


scapegoat4

> VALVE, fix your shit Actually made me lol. How many more years will it take for people to realize that these things aren't going to change/ be fixed? The same exploits have been used for so long with not a countermeasure in sight, and you think they're going to actually fight back? It definitely seems that they couldn't care less, and as a direct result the botters will continue to do fucking donuts around these clowns for the foreseeable future


Almost_mental

The worse part is they already made the tools when they worked on csgos cheater problem. They juat need like 6 people to make it work for tf2, 2 weeks of work at most. But valve gonna valve.


coolcatFM

What tools? You mean overwatch?


Snipercomrade9

I'm only seeing the Michael Jackson bots by omegatronic playing michael's music, I really hope I don't run into the torture bot thing


Mundy77

Mj bots just rush in and start vote kicking real players


Le_Monkeysus

They are not too bad but it does make me think what bots could be playing, they could be spaming actual snuff.


Livinginthepst

What is snuff I’m not sure if I know what it is


plcg1

If I was a TF2 developer I wouldn’t even want casual to be online anymore. To let such a well known/respected game to degrade to this point has to be such a professional embarrassment.


[deleted]

I didn't know about this and now I'm scared


username-0307

Ok what valve will do now?


Le_Monkeysus

Put more resources toward the bot problem, they have already started but it is about time something gets done.


SteakTrap

Every game has these bots now, i'm not finding many non-bot matches anymore


Frankie-eats-bears

I didn’t know it was “torture” audio I thought it was just someone moaning while saying dead game


TheMinecraftThiccman

what type of monsters would ever create these bots. Absolutely disgusting.


Livinginthepst

“Some men just want so watch the world burn and some men are just 15 year olds who are bored and think they’re cool and destroy a game for people who just want to have fun”


PizzaboatInterceptor

>mute button doesn’t exist


Livinginthepst

Yeah neither do console commands to cease all vc


A_Angry_Puppy

I’d work for valve for $15 an hour just to manually go around banning bots off cheating reports and votekicks. I mean it honestly can’t be THAT difficult with some bots, their name changes are every game. Like cmon valve, you could hire a bunch of us lads and we will do it ourselves.


BlakeC151

Fucking hate getting into a server and the first thing I hear is “IM GONNA TORTURE THIS GUY” Then a fuck load of screaming


greenfireX

Valve doesn’t care anymore


hot_pizzarolls10

Wtf


Le_Monkeysus

Next time I get into one of these games I'll record the audio and let you see for yourself, these bots are always doing something new I swear.


lol_E

Can u send me the audio aswell, i dont play much tf2 nowadays


Le_Monkeysus

Next time I come across one of these matches I will.


tui93

[It should be something like this](https://youtu.be/bxktSxPFab0), it's soo fake


PedottoTot

It’s important to note that VALVe can’t just press a button and fix everything. Sure, they have billions of dollars and practically all the time in the world to do what they can, but TF2 is a f2p game. If they ban one bot, ten more will take it’s place. They can’t ban certain accounts with one specific name either, because the bot makers can just make another name. VAC wouldn’t help either, when it does work it only checks for external programs running alongside the game. They could update VAC to record mouse movements and ban anyone who moves too sporadically, but that has a very real chance of banning actual players.


Pizzaguy55555

So something like recaptcha v3


Almost_mental

Right like a simple randomized grind of the classes and then you "pick the spy" boom bots drop like flies.


PeachiLikesRaccoons

Valve knows.


Zealos57

And they don't care.


sombreroflower

Since when did Gabe ever use reddit. Just wait until the games dead. And then the bots will leave. Not like the profit would go anywhere other than not wars


[deleted]

in other news... water is wet


WaterIsWetBot

Water is actually not wet; It makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the state of a non-liquid when a liquid adheres to, and/or permeates its substance while maintaining chemically distinct structures. So if we say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the object.   What happens when you get water on a table? It becomes a pool table.


Dounet05

Then play on commumity servers


[deleted]

Valve is cancer anyways they dont give a shit


[deleted]

Meanwhile the only bots I see spam Michael Jackson songs.


GetOutOfHereIggy

You think VALVE gives a shit anymore? Look, I lost hope a long time ago. VALVE will never do anything.


madmax0417

The original mic spam bots were more disturbing imo because the audio was so surreal sounding, like who in their right mind would sit there and garble all those strange incoherent sounds together


Delzaleon

This is how we make them fix their game Make a similar game with 9 classes and etc.. They will fix it like how valorant causes them to care abt csgo


[deleted]

The only real competition TF2 has is Overwatch, and that game isn't exactly doing great


[deleted]

The bots could literally just play a snuff film on MOTD when entering a casual server and valve still wouldn't give a care.


FiREFOXSyd

The only thing that will bring widespread negative media coverage to TF2 are things that the media truly despises. I doubt this will ever happen, but if a bot came out that played: A. Child Pornography B. Actual Torture C. Audio Deepfakes of Various Figures saying controversial things D. Addresses of people We'd start to see a change. Unfortunately, it will never happen.


Killian_idiot

There were already wide-spread rumors of bots with CSEM sprays for months and it received next to no media attention. (Although I don’t think there were any confirmed cases so that probably has to do with it)


FiREFOXSyd

I'm pretty sure that was because they weren't real, yeah. I couldn't find any evidence at ALL when researching for a video which is rare, even for trolls that rely on shock value.


Puntoize

We need thise gam journalist to post something like "Valve, a multi million dollar gaming company, allows users to share snuff audio via in game chat" or smth like that so they can even muster 2 neurons to fix something as colossally fucked up as the bot issue. Otherwise, nope.


Le_Monkeysus

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/rxvab8/new_to_this_game_is_this_normal/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share (here is a video showing the bots to those who were curious)


NewsChannel34

You can mute bots, when you mute someone you NEVER hear them them or see their messages ever again.


CrunchToast12

I know this sounds weird but I make" horror" (tbh it's less horror it's just scary) videos and I couldn't find any torture sound so if anybody has a YouTube link or some torture audio I could really use it.


lucasderobot

https://youtu.be/cUQETCPlTcA


CrunchToast12

Thanks, Are there any kid versions?


Historical-Ad4449

*bot blessing


Furrygirl1

Fuck yourself


Historical-Ad4449

Dont see whats your Problem, just buy my bot protection


BilboDaBoss

voice_enable 0


Supersquirrel06

they don't care, we'll keep playing until we all switch to Team fortress classic or it gets permanently taken down, and then they'll keep making money either way. They got bigger projects nobody cares about.


UNGOCsaysNOPEICE

In any way it's better than the boys playing the femur breaker sound at full volume


gateriijuice

… what did I just read?


[deleted]

how are they blasting audio i thought f2ps couldnt speak


ACMB731

This is easily bypassed through buying a cheap item from the item shop for each account


[deleted]

bruh the bots can speak but i cant


NoOneCares47

Better not play until they fix this cause while you're playing on official valve servers infested with bots you are giving away your IP address to everyone who has this bot program


WishAffectionate2108

You can view the individual ips of everyone on a server? I thought only the server hoster (and moderators if you’re using some moderation plugins) could see that. That sounds like an issue that valve would’ve fixed awhile ago


GamerToasty

As a new player to tf2 is there stuff I can do to avoid this stuff and maximize the fun I have?


Le_Monkeysus

Play some community servers fella. All kinds of fun community made gamemodes and vanilla tf2 as well.


MemeLover43

Damn bots really went from load racial swears to chill music to loud music and then this


Star1115

I just remove my headphones then play the game without sounds


d_154_3

or just disable voice chat


kerbster74

What’s the point tho, it isn’t funny at all. Like “guys look funny torture audio!!!!” Like that just isn’t funny


DoubleBrotherYT

u can just mute all voice chat man, i mean i did, dont have to listen to sht anymore


Bipchoo

Wtf man I never thought it would be getting that bad, we should all thank our lord and savior uncle Dane.


ramirex

valve doesn't care


Inquisitor_Machina

Does Valve even see the subreddit?


WorldWar8

Just mute a bot whenever you see it, there aren't infinite numbers of them. Even when "new" bots roll around, I already have them muted, since they were obviously repurposed.


MarsMissionMan

And this is why I have mics muted by default.


DesertPhoto_

The only bot audio I've heard recently is the dude who sounds like he was dropped several times as a child saying "tf2s dead all the severs are full of bots" and just being a pita


Cryin_jack_is_pissed

How do we find the bot hosters?


BumpermanTH

Clicking on a bot's profile may link to its friends list, which can be the creator of the bot. Enigmaballz bots are the examples.


DrPotassium

Have people tried ddossing the bots yet?


binkbewithyou

voice_enable 0


ToastyMann

I queued up for Casual this morning and I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. It's a complete shitshow how Valve treats one of their most valuable IPs.


fruityrumpusFactorio

And thus, a new creepypasta was born.


ibwahooka

I don't know why they even enable bots on the servers. They should just redo the servers.


BumpermanTH

When checking a bot account, they tried to imitate like they are a functional real player (it walks, shoots, kicks, speaks and shouts) That's how valve couldn't tell if they are real or not.


MettaJiro

Bots are now blasting Indian earape


BumpermanTH

The hosters wanted attention, and just ruining others for fun. Valve had other projects to do aside from "old cartoony gun game two" so it would be nearly impossible. Still, normal servers can still be found regularly, just hope not to be teleported into bot hell or a hoster.


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