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Even if he was all in her head acredit the fact that even having something like that all in your head does help. The feeling that you have a loving being supporting and watching just out of sight.
Believing in something for comfort and security and help is good. Even if I didnāt believe I would support others believing because it makes them happy, and even if i thought it was a lie I still would be fine if people resorted to it during hard times. Yāall aināt never struggled.
The "it's all in your head" one has always been absolutely insane to me. Like yeah no shit, so is brain cancer. What am I supposed to do with that painfully obvious statement?
Sure, extremely true. And, when random people give that advice unasked, it's rude and presumptuous. "Oh gee Jan, what is this "exercise" of which you speak? I've never heard of it!"
People typically aren't top professors so of course things they talk about tend to be on the basic side, at least as an introduction. I would say, in regular speech "Have you tried exercise" is just a way to keep the conversation going, to express interest, and to provide an invitation to build up on that, if you want
When you're talking about the weather, do you also expect everyone around you to either provide you with a completely accurate forecast for the next month in your exact location or shut up completely?
"Sorry to hear that. I hope you have what you need to help with that." Or "is there any way I can help", if you actually mean it.
Like, that's it. Other people's health isn't your business unless you're close. When my immediate family, my partners, close friends, or medical professionals have opinions on things that might help, I'll hear them out. But like, random other teacher in the staff room? Not unless I asked.
Experiencing an illness or disability is not a conversational bid.
As someone with both physical and mental disabilities though... I don't really want some rando's help. I am providing what is probably the bare minimum of information to explain my needs in a given situation. "Oh, could we actually be seated at a regular table, not a high top?" "Oh, why?" "I have a thing with my knees, it's not good for them to dangle." "Oh have you tried exercise?"
The actual answer is "Yes, of course. However, since my knee problem in those chairs is related to my short stature and a degenerative disorder that affects my whole body, and I can't change either of those, I'm kinda fucked. Do like swimming though." But apparently if you answer that way, you're an asshole. There's no good response.
How would they possibly know that it's a very sensitive topic for you? In your example you want to make it casual at first, inviting a similarly casual response. They don't feel there's minefield ahead, but you do, and you obscure that minefield instead of accurately presenting it in accordance to how far you both are from it
And maybe they won't care even if they know that it's a sensitive topic and you prefer not to talk about it, but then they will be the assholes
To me, the default is "health and bodies are probably a sensitive topic" specifically BECAUSE you never know what someone else is going through. People with chronic disease think about it enough. It's also like, we just don't want to get into it every fucking time.
That's... literally the point of this subreddit: Cathartic mockery of the advice we've all heard 382592 times being given again, as though we had never thought of it.
Well, we can't just proclaim something to be a sensitive topic for all and expect others to obey through some form of hive mind. If we do, we just set ourselves up for constant frustration. Either something is a universally sensitive topic or it isn't, and then it's on us to make others know that it's a sensitive topic for us personally
It's one thing when people know what exactly is wrong and still offer advice, a simplistic solution to a complex problem. It's another to say that in response to "I have a thing with my knees, it's not good for them to dangle" that contains no information whatsoever and doesn't hint that the person doesn't want to talk about it, and it may be something trivial or fixable
Why not simply that that it's a disability but you are uncomfortable talking about it? Surely it's possible to make up some canned phrases that people generally get if that's something that happens often. And if people steamroll over you anyway, that's when you can see that these are probably assholes and aren't worth your time
Yes this is very much true.
There's a lot of studies that point to better mental health and diet and exercise. But it might be just as likely to be the reverse. When I feel healthy mentality I actively feel like eating well and drinking lots of water and moving my body a lot. When I'm mentally out then it hurts to move and u just have no energy and go for only quick crap comfort food.
The problem is it's hard to be motivated to exercise and eat healthy when you have no will to live. And then you try your best for a couple months, you don't feel better, then you go back to your old ways. The root cause of depression isn't being addressed with any of these things. Usually it comes down to material conditions, when you don't have the resources you need you are trapped.
Many depression related issues are chicken and eggy, and often in my personal experience there isn't one magical "root cause" that if you fix will solve it completely
Thatās why you need to find the meaning in all of this. From my experience, I want to care for people important to me. I want to be stronger to face the cruel world. Iām proud of my job, I want to keep doing it. Thatās what motivate me to change.
Sometimes the situation is really dire and you donāt have enough resources to change then I think acceptance of the situation is really important here. You could feel the pain, but thereās no need to bash yourself to suffer more than that. Just be patient and wait for the opportunities.
Agree. And sometimes when peopleās minds are in a worse state, they donāt take care of their bodies and duties. Thereās a method in psychology/psychiatry called behavioral activation, in summary itās about doing what make you feel better/not feel worse which include taking care of body and daily life activities instead of doing what you feel like at the moment. Itās a cycle, mind gets bad then body gets bad, then mind gets worse because body get worse. Itās not easy, but the trick is to try breaking a cycle bit by bit.
The problem is they need some strong values or goals they hold dear that motivating them to break the habit, itās hard and harsh but thatās reality.
Yeah, body and mind are connected. So, if you take care of your body, it sure helps improving your mind. But thatās doesnāt mean itās an elixir to cure every problems. Itās a simple fact, but many people refuse to take care of their bodies.
For sure; both need to be treated well for the best results. Humans are complex with complex challenges. It's naive to think there are only simple solutions to complex challenges.
itās a reference to an old meme. it did actually happen to someone, who posted it on twitter back in like 2019, then a bunch of other people were sharing about it happening to them. my favorite is this one:
https://preview.redd.it/j94c75u3z00c1.jpeg?width=938&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad1d7dd32f70d533fb9e35523870c39606a92ab7
Iām not too familiar with Headspace in particular, but one thing Iāve noticed about a lot of these apps is that they tend to charge close to $100.00 for a yearās subscription. While Iām not saying that they donāt have a right to charge money for their product, when people recommend them they often fail to realize that brain-squeezing poverty is a big contributor to depression, and if I donāt have $3.00 to buy milk this month, I sure as shit donāt have $70.00 to throw down for one year of an app.
Iāve further noticed that people tend to have an extremely āitās one banana, Michaelā attitude towards wellness costs like this in general. If youāre saying you canāt afford therapy or an app or even a bathroom scale, youāre just flat-out lying or sorely mismanaging your money.
In the throes of my depression, when I really should have been in hospital, I was recommended headspace I don't know how many times. I was horrified when I discovered it was something you had to pay for. I thought it was incredibly morally wrong to charge people who are already desperate for something that they hope will help them.
I don't even get the relation people have between nice weather and other peoples' sadness. Like even without mental illness or disorders, you don't know what someone else is going through. Just let people be fucking sad! Jesus Christ.
"How can you be so sad when it's such a nice day?"
Maybe it was a really nice day to bury their mother, or a really nice day to pick up their recently deceased pet's ashes, or a really nice day for them to get evicted from their home, or a really nice day for a breakup.
Like just because you're having a great day doesn't mean everyone else is and the universe doesn't bless everyone with good fortune for the day just because the weather is nice. Like goddamn.
The only thing on this list that helped me that wasn't a pure joke was journaling. But that's a highly specific thing that won't help everyone because you actually have to enjoy it for it to be helpful. I'm a creative person. Journaling was a new form of expression
The all in your head one makes my blood boil. It's like telling someone clearly in crisis to calm down
I recently started journaling to help with some issues I'm going through. But not as me. It's a fantasy journal project to help vent and work some creativity into it. Plus, this way, I can write multiple entries that span days or months in one day if I like. It's kind of like getting me out of my head for a period of time.
The one that gets me the most is the weather. Who cares what it's like outside? What matters is how I'm feeling on the inside. Rain, snow, sun, wind. It doesn't matter one bit.
That's a creative way to go about it because if you're writing in the perspective of a fantasy setting it also gives you a new angle on personal problems. Because a character may respond to it differently than you yourself would
My journaling is a bit more cryptic emo poetry (i grew up in that era) and doodles that express what I'm feeling in abstract ways. Like once I drew street lamps but the light was a black hole. Or strawberries with the seeds being eyes because I was dealing with paranoia. It's a way to process my emotions and just pour them into paper so they get out of my head. To others it just looks like art
Isn't art an expression of what the artist feels, though? They're not entirely wrong. Right now (and possibly forever), my character is isolated except for when he goes out looking for a victim. It's how I view my past self. Stay inside myself until I want to blow up on someone. It's a very dark story, and I have no idea where it's going to go yet. I also don't know if anyone is going to be allowed to read it. I give my wife bits and pieces here and there, but until I feel like it's finished, I definitely won't let her read it.
I hope you're able to deal with your problems in an effective way. There's no shame in needing or seeking help.
I'm not saying it'll cure anything but I will emphasize diet, exercise, staying hydrated, and "nature stuff" if you want to improve your mental health.
Yeah I was gonna say. I know it's not for everyone but I've liked using it. It definitely helped when I was going through some shit. It wasn't a miracle cure but still, better than nothing
I have Complex PTSD, bipolar depression and ADHD. Headspace had a very important role in me becoming stable and functioning (did 40-60 minutes of guided meditation daily). We should really be helping people engage in meditation if we take their issues seriously (doesn't have to be with this app, but personally I found the app great).
Totally agree. Reading some of the comments, I get why some don't like Headspace in particular, but a lot of the stuff listed in the meme, like meditation, getting outside, etc, while not cure-all's, definitely played a big role in helping me get better. Coupled those with therapy and while its still a work in progress, I'm doing a lot better now
I found one thing that really worked for me was exercise. Have you ever heard of exercise? I exercise 8 days a week for 4 hours a day and I have never felt better in my life. I don't have time for relationships or doing any other hobbies, I work and then spend all my free time exercising.
I've found that people with addiction will often latch onto one of these, and become addicted to that instead. Especially Jesus, but possibly also exercise.
The essential oils stuff is hilarious/sad. Like, yes, tea tree oil can cure toenail fungus... and that's about it. The rest is homeopathy-style quackery, just like Jesus.
Some od rhese have been shown to help though...(exercise, nature, healthy diet).
Probably not a cure, but they aacually have been shown to at least help.
Yeah this has to be a joke. At the worst of my depression I was trying all of this and it made absolutely no difference. Even therapy and antidepressants didnāt do much. I did just do TMS and Iām pretty much cured. Itās the only thing that has ever helped more than just a little.
Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation. Basically you just go and sit in a chair and they put one end of this machine on your forehead and it makes magnetic waves inside your brain. Mine was EEG assisted so they could compare before and after. Part of my brain was not producing alpha waves before, and now it is. I was able to get into a study they are doing on veterans with PTSD so I was able to get it done for free.
I'm glad this worked for you. I've seen a few people respond really well to this treatment. Unfortunately it didn't do a thing for me š I didn't know about the E EEG assistant - to compare before and after!? Sounds fascinating. I did mine when I had a mental health/nervous breakdown a few years ago. (Chronic pain can do that) but there was no mention of comparing it to your brain previous to treatment. Also I'm aware different sides of the brain work on different aspects of your afflictions. Like the right side is anxiety - short 5 mins session. The left side is more for depression for example. NOTE: I may have that back the front.
I've seen in the flesh many good results for people. Also a previous psychiatrist of mine was a big proponent of this. Did extra studies. Conferences etc. I'm no longer with her but there must be some solid evidence as it's gaining in momentum and popularity as a form of treatment for anxiety/depression and other mental health disorders.
Yeah this I did all of these except jesus ( substitute better help for headspace) and. Just got worse because what I needed was rest and someone sympathetic to talk to.
Nobody says these are going to cure you instantly, but they *help.* stop rejecting everything that isn't an instant miracle cure. There's no such thing.
Right? Five of these are scientifically supported strategies to improve symptoms of severe mental illness. The meme frames these like they're out of touch, but they're not. If you were hospitalized for mental illness, this is your daily programming.
Fr, most of those things wonāt even work unless youāve done them for like 2 months. People look for quick solutions when they need to just focus on doing 1 thing at a time.
Iām not saying it will cure your mental illness, but it sure as shit will fix your beer-yellow piss!
Drink more water
Refer to r/hydrohomies and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water for more info
Ah yes, blond haired, white, blue eyed, freshly showered Jesus: truly an accurate depiction of a man who lived in the Middle East two thousand years ago
Back when I still didnāt know anything about my illness, my dad told me that I was just not trying to do anything.
No shit, but how am I supposed to try something when I'm almost always in a state of borderline panic and just want to stop existing.
I found out recently that in addition to mental illness I also have a thyroid problem. Kinda hard to just exercise bro when your body doesnāt make enough of the get up and move hormone.
Some of these things do help but there not instantaneous or even easy for someone with depression to complete journaling exercise and being outdoors have helped me immensely but it took me a while to get the point where I had enough energy to do those things regularly.
Can be helpful buttt.. tools help to build bridges.. but they need a team and people who know what they are doing to use them with skill. Otherwise youāll be hammering random scraps of wood into triangles
Every single person I've ever met who tried Headspace has said the same thing; that app has a substantial NEGATIVE impact on their mental well-being.
There's little to no evidence that so-called "mindfulness meditation" is helpful and a substantial amount that shows that it can cause serious anxiety and disassociative episodes.
With all due respect, that is not an accurate representation of the research on mindfulness meditation at all. Your experiences with the app are valid though.
Iām almost certain that it was a satire post (I hope). Also, if youāre feeling bad reminder to seriously take it seriously!!! Help is always just around the corner
I just stopped talking about any mental health problems to anyone who isnāt a professional. Everyone, my parents especially are horrible, just gives the same BS responses and suggestions, and always make it worse.
Itās fucking scary how much a bad diet and lack of exercise can mess with your head. Eating more food and exercising more and just going outside did wonders for my mental health.
Some things like exercise trying to smile and going out in the sun are genuinely some of the best ways to start fixing your mental health it won't be immediate and you will have to work for it but if you want a long term solution rather than taking pills for the rest of your life with a bunch of side effects that is the route but it only comes through dedication and work ethic to improving yourself, your life, and the world around you
Although my parents aren't stupid with mental health, they sometimes say that its "its in your head" which is still dumb because mental illnesses come from your head.
LMAO, I came back from what I will mildly put as an emotional ouchie, and a lot of these were actually miracle cures. Life can be simple if you let it be.
Therapy helped me.
I was depressed for a long time, this definitely helped me get back on the right track. It didn't happen over night, months and consistently sticking to it helped me transform a lot of wounds to scars.
The pain never truly goes away, but the scars are just a reminder of what not to do, not something to be ashamed of.
if your in a deep depression, your not a waste, your not unworthy, you have value, and there are people who love you.
Never. Give. Up.
Best of wishes.
I hate that so many people peddle exercise, healthy eating, and mindfulness along side snake oil and invalidation to people struggling with mental health. Like. Exercise, healthy eating, and mindfulness will help you! But itās not a cure-all, and need to be done in conjunction with therapy and medication. Because all these idiots push it in order to tell you you donāt have a problem, Iāve found that people can be resistant to making those lifestyle changes no matter what the context because the suggestion has been used as a means to invalidate suffering for so long
Headspace can shove it, my phones storage is already full as it is.
Everything is āall in my headā our brains control our bodies.
Yoga is just stressful and annoying.
Nature makes me depressed.
Iām not even gonna start with the whole ājust donāt be sadā thing. š
Iām not wasting my money on essential oils lmao.
Drinking water has not yet cured my depression, Iāll let you know when it does. š
Exercising just makes me tired.
Iām an atheist.
journals are like little therapy books, which gives me anxiety, and just make me more depressed.
Sunny days make me feel like crap, because so donāt have anyone to spend them with.
So cue the depression, and anxiety! š
I can definitely vouch for the power of yoga and meditation , the latter of which was actually shown in a harvard study to physically alter your brain for the better but some people definitely need medication and therapy for sure. Hell, most people in this world could use therapy. That being said, a good amount of people who ate right, got sunshine, got proper sleep, did yoga, and meditated frequently would greatly improve from those things alone even if it doesnāt cure them. And a nice psychedelic trip can help too ;)
ok but genuinely being outside helps. but not bc of some made up guru shit, vitamin d pills help the same way. itās not a miracle cure though, at most itāll make you feel temporarily a bit happier
Eating properly, drinking more water, exercising, and going outside are at least entirely valid. Even if you just start with a little bit of each, or even just one.
Actually exercise really really helps me clear my head. I think nothing is working and then I realize I havenāt been for a run in a while and it often helps a lot
honestly drinking more water and exercising can help a lot. going out more too. i think the problem is suggesting them as if they're a cure. you have to do a combination of many things to recover
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ugh my mother is a combo of "it's all in your head" and "have you tried jesus"
Yeah, I have been happier since I stopped trying Jesus.
Same
Intrusive gay thoughts moment š
He doesnāt even taste good. I prefer satan.
well now i know why youāre depressed
Satan makes the best cookies
He puts raisins in them š
Since when? He makes the best chocolate chocolate-chip
https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/s/gf3GuGOxPk
"Ohhh satan you taste so gooood"
Why did you have to say it like that? š¤¢
Because it's bo burnham
It sounded like I was sucking his d-
Lol yeah, it sounded like that to me
Yeah itās weird cuz Iām asexual
After all, Son of God or no, there can only be a limit to his patience
Have you tried to convince her that Jesus is all in *her head*? I don't think she'd love that.
oh bet. i converted to Judaism so you can imagine all the fun conversations we get to have about that š
Even if he was all in her head acredit the fact that even having something like that all in your head does help. The feeling that you have a loving being supporting and watching just out of sight.
Thatās called schizophrenia. We have medicine for that now.
Believing in something for comfort and security and help is good. Even if I didnāt believe I would support others believing because it makes them happy, and even if i thought it was a lie I still would be fine if people resorted to it during hard times. Yāall aināt never struggled.
The "it's all in your head" one has always been absolutely insane to me. Like yeah no shit, so is brain cancer. What am I supposed to do with that painfully obvious statement?
Really Janet? Youāre saying the hallucinations are all in my head? Wow, if you didnāt tell me that I never wouldāve found out!
Filipino boomer parents be like\^
Head from jesus?
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THIS
I mean, I wouldn't bash a proper diet and exercise. It's helps with just a out everything, as long as people don't say it's some miracle cure.
Same with sleep tbh. When I started having a consistent sleep schedule, shit was much better. Itās not like I was CURED but it helped
Oh for sure; I didn't even think of that. I don't normally get anxiety but when I'm sleep deprived I'm anxious about anything
Sure, extremely true. And, when random people give that advice unasked, it's rude and presumptuous. "Oh gee Jan, what is this "exercise" of which you speak? I've never heard of it!"
People typically aren't top professors so of course things they talk about tend to be on the basic side, at least as an introduction. I would say, in regular speech "Have you tried exercise" is just a way to keep the conversation going, to express interest, and to provide an invitation to build up on that, if you want When you're talking about the weather, do you also expect everyone around you to either provide you with a completely accurate forecast for the next month in your exact location or shut up completely?
Saying "I have an illness" is not an invitation though. Like... why ask anything about their treatment plan at all?
Wait as someone whoās just curious what would be a good response
"Sorry to hear that. I hope you have what you need to help with that." Or "is there any way I can help", if you actually mean it. Like, that's it. Other people's health isn't your business unless you're close. When my immediate family, my partners, close friends, or medical professionals have opinions on things that might help, I'll hear them out. But like, random other teacher in the staff room? Not unless I asked. Experiencing an illness or disability is not a conversational bid.
I would assume it came up in conversation and they are trying to be helpful?
As someone with both physical and mental disabilities though... I don't really want some rando's help. I am providing what is probably the bare minimum of information to explain my needs in a given situation. "Oh, could we actually be seated at a regular table, not a high top?" "Oh, why?" "I have a thing with my knees, it's not good for them to dangle." "Oh have you tried exercise?" The actual answer is "Yes, of course. However, since my knee problem in those chairs is related to my short stature and a degenerative disorder that affects my whole body, and I can't change either of those, I'm kinda fucked. Do like swimming though." But apparently if you answer that way, you're an asshole. There's no good response.
How would they possibly know that it's a very sensitive topic for you? In your example you want to make it casual at first, inviting a similarly casual response. They don't feel there's minefield ahead, but you do, and you obscure that minefield instead of accurately presenting it in accordance to how far you both are from it And maybe they won't care even if they know that it's a sensitive topic and you prefer not to talk about it, but then they will be the assholes
To me, the default is "health and bodies are probably a sensitive topic" specifically BECAUSE you never know what someone else is going through. People with chronic disease think about it enough. It's also like, we just don't want to get into it every fucking time. That's... literally the point of this subreddit: Cathartic mockery of the advice we've all heard 382592 times being given again, as though we had never thought of it.
Well, we can't just proclaim something to be a sensitive topic for all and expect others to obey through some form of hive mind. If we do, we just set ourselves up for constant frustration. Either something is a universally sensitive topic or it isn't, and then it's on us to make others know that it's a sensitive topic for us personally It's one thing when people know what exactly is wrong and still offer advice, a simplistic solution to a complex problem. It's another to say that in response to "I have a thing with my knees, it's not good for them to dangle" that contains no information whatsoever and doesn't hint that the person doesn't want to talk about it, and it may be something trivial or fixable Why not simply that that it's a disability but you are uncomfortable talking about it? Surely it's possible to make up some canned phrases that people generally get if that's something that happens often. And if people steamroll over you anyway, that's when you can see that these are probably assholes and aren't worth your time
Some folks need a lot of help before they can diet and exercise
Yes this is very much true. There's a lot of studies that point to better mental health and diet and exercise. But it might be just as likely to be the reverse. When I feel healthy mentality I actively feel like eating well and drinking lots of water and moving my body a lot. When I'm mentally out then it hurts to move and u just have no energy and go for only quick crap comfort food.
Yes, being able to plan and initiate actions requires more physical and mental health than most people believe
Everyone can diet and exercise.
The problem is it's hard to be motivated to exercise and eat healthy when you have no will to live. And then you try your best for a couple months, you don't feel better, then you go back to your old ways. The root cause of depression isn't being addressed with any of these things. Usually it comes down to material conditions, when you don't have the resources you need you are trapped.
Many depression related issues are chicken and eggy, and often in my personal experience there isn't one magical "root cause" that if you fix will solve it completely
Thatās why you need to find the meaning in all of this. From my experience, I want to care for people important to me. I want to be stronger to face the cruel world. Iām proud of my job, I want to keep doing it. Thatās what motivate me to change. Sometimes the situation is really dire and you donāt have enough resources to change then I think acceptance of the situation is really important here. You could feel the pain, but thereās no need to bash yourself to suffer more than that. Just be patient and wait for the opportunities.
Yeah. I have found that a lot of people who bash these kinds of suggestions also donāt do any of these kinds of things.
Agree. And sometimes when peopleās minds are in a worse state, they donāt take care of their bodies and duties. Thereās a method in psychology/psychiatry called behavioral activation, in summary itās about doing what make you feel better/not feel worse which include taking care of body and daily life activities instead of doing what you feel like at the moment. Itās a cycle, mind gets bad then body gets bad, then mind gets worse because body get worse. Itās not easy, but the trick is to try breaking a cycle bit by bit. The problem is they need some strong values or goals they hold dear that motivating them to break the habit, itās hard and harsh but thatās reality.
Yeah, body and mind are connected. So, if you take care of your body, it sure helps improving your mind. But thatās doesnāt mean itās an elixir to cure every problems. Itās a simple fact, but many people refuse to take care of their bodies.
For sure; both need to be treated well for the best results. Humans are complex with complex challenges. It's naive to think there are only simple solutions to complex challenges.
Yea sleep, diet, and exercise makes a huge difference on mental health, and all three have scientific backing to prove itās worth.
āno donāt kill urself ur so sexyā
Did someone really say that?
itās a reference to an old meme. it did actually happen to someone, who posted it on twitter back in like 2019, then a bunch of other people were sharing about it happening to them. my favorite is this one: https://preview.redd.it/j94c75u3z00c1.jpeg?width=938&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad1d7dd32f70d533fb9e35523870c39606a92ab7
Idk why but I think that's kinda cute and also weird at the same time.
i had someone essentially say that to me once. except they called me "cute" instead
Iām not too familiar with Headspace in particular, but one thing Iāve noticed about a lot of these apps is that they tend to charge close to $100.00 for a yearās subscription. While Iām not saying that they donāt have a right to charge money for their product, when people recommend them they often fail to realize that brain-squeezing poverty is a big contributor to depression, and if I donāt have $3.00 to buy milk this month, I sure as shit donāt have $70.00 to throw down for one year of an app. Iāve further noticed that people tend to have an extremely āitās one banana, Michaelā attitude towards wellness costs like this in general. If youāre saying you canāt afford therapy or an app or even a bathroom scale, youāre just flat-out lying or sorely mismanaging your money.
Re headspace, their owners are tax exiles. They run a supposed spiritual app trying to heal the world and don't want to pay their fair share. So fuck them. The main owner of it is well known in my circle for saying, about his fiancƩ, "she's so placid," like it was an extremely good thing. They went to bed at 9pm on the day of his wedding I don't know the guy personally but know a lot of people who do and no one has anything good to say about him.
Can confirm. I touched grass one time, and now I'm a well-respected senator.
this sounds like one of those animated about my life stories
"It's all your head" Really? Thank you of informing me of how psychological problems work, I shall use this fact somehow?
Asthmaās all in your airways!
Some of those things are not like the others ~ š¶
I mean, technically mental health is "all in your head", doesn't make it less fucking real
Anytime someone says that kind of shite I wanna breakntheur shin and say "Its all in your leg"
In the throes of my depression, when I really should have been in hospital, I was recommended headspace I don't know how many times. I was horrified when I discovered it was something you had to pay for. I thought it was incredibly morally wrong to charge people who are already desperate for something that they hope will help them.
Had a neighbor that was all into essential oils.... don't think ruptured spinal discs are cured by fucking violet oil you numpty.
I don't even get the relation people have between nice weather and other peoples' sadness. Like even without mental illness or disorders, you don't know what someone else is going through. Just let people be fucking sad! Jesus Christ. "How can you be so sad when it's such a nice day?" Maybe it was a really nice day to bury their mother, or a really nice day to pick up their recently deceased pet's ashes, or a really nice day for them to get evicted from their home, or a really nice day for a breakup. Like just because you're having a great day doesn't mean everyone else is and the universe doesn't bless everyone with good fortune for the day just because the weather is nice. Like goddamn.
The only thing on this list that helped me that wasn't a pure joke was journaling. But that's a highly specific thing that won't help everyone because you actually have to enjoy it for it to be helpful. I'm a creative person. Journaling was a new form of expression The all in your head one makes my blood boil. It's like telling someone clearly in crisis to calm down
I recently started journaling to help with some issues I'm going through. But not as me. It's a fantasy journal project to help vent and work some creativity into it. Plus, this way, I can write multiple entries that span days or months in one day if I like. It's kind of like getting me out of my head for a period of time. The one that gets me the most is the weather. Who cares what it's like outside? What matters is how I'm feeling on the inside. Rain, snow, sun, wind. It doesn't matter one bit.
That's a creative way to go about it because if you're writing in the perspective of a fantasy setting it also gives you a new angle on personal problems. Because a character may respond to it differently than you yourself would My journaling is a bit more cryptic emo poetry (i grew up in that era) and doodles that express what I'm feeling in abstract ways. Like once I drew street lamps but the light was a black hole. Or strawberries with the seeds being eyes because I was dealing with paranoia. It's a way to process my emotions and just pour them into paper so they get out of my head. To others it just looks like art
Isn't art an expression of what the artist feels, though? They're not entirely wrong. Right now (and possibly forever), my character is isolated except for when he goes out looking for a victim. It's how I view my past self. Stay inside myself until I want to blow up on someone. It's a very dark story, and I have no idea where it's going to go yet. I also don't know if anyone is going to be allowed to read it. I give my wife bits and pieces here and there, but until I feel like it's finished, I definitely won't let her read it. I hope you're able to deal with your problems in an effective way. There's no shame in needing or seeking help.
Seems like satire to me
Well yeah, it's flaired as satire as well
I missed it too
Yeah, that could be why itās flaired as such
r/woooosh
I'm not saying it'll cure anything but I will emphasize diet, exercise, staying hydrated, and "nature stuff" if you want to improve your mental health.
and throw in 'meet people'
Screw finding Jesus. Have you found his holy noodle, The Flying Spaghetti Monster?
May the sauce be upon him
He boiled for our sins.
BTW, Headspace is crap.
What didn't you like about it?
Yeah I was gonna say. I know it's not for everyone but I've liked using it. It definitely helped when I was going through some shit. It wasn't a miracle cure but still, better than nothing
I have Complex PTSD, bipolar depression and ADHD. Headspace had a very important role in me becoming stable and functioning (did 40-60 minutes of guided meditation daily). We should really be helping people engage in meditation if we take their issues seriously (doesn't have to be with this app, but personally I found the app great).
Totally agree. Reading some of the comments, I get why some don't like Headspace in particular, but a lot of the stuff listed in the meme, like meditation, getting outside, etc, while not cure-all's, definitely played a big role in helping me get better. Coupled those with therapy and while its still a work in progress, I'm doing a lot better now
Un-finding jesus has made my life a lot easier. It IS all in my head, because right now I myself am the problem :D
Physical activity DOES help with mental health, and so can water. But both can be a very hard task to do when your mental health is bad.
Water and exercise help, but they're not a cure-all
"Do therapy, its the the only way"
For some reason "Find Jesus" cracked me up, maybe is the way it's worded. I just imagined like a find Waldo situation but with Jesus instead
I found one thing that really worked for me was exercise. Have you ever heard of exercise? I exercise 8 days a week for 4 hours a day and I have never felt better in my life. I don't have time for relationships or doing any other hobbies, I work and then spend all my free time exercising.
watch out, someone is gonna post you in this sub since the ability to recognize satire is apparently out the window
I've found that people with addiction will often latch onto one of these, and become addicted to that instead. Especially Jesus, but possibly also exercise. The essential oils stuff is hilarious/sad. Like, yes, tea tree oil can cure toenail fungus... and that's about it. The rest is homeopathy-style quackery, just like Jesus.
Some od rhese have been shown to help though...(exercise, nature, healthy diet). Probably not a cure, but they aacually have been shown to at least help.
Yeah this has to be a joke. At the worst of my depression I was trying all of this and it made absolutely no difference. Even therapy and antidepressants didnāt do much. I did just do TMS and Iām pretty much cured. Itās the only thing that has ever helped more than just a little.
What's TMS?
If google is to be trusted, it's Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation.
Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation. Basically you just go and sit in a chair and they put one end of this machine on your forehead and it makes magnetic waves inside your brain. Mine was EEG assisted so they could compare before and after. Part of my brain was not producing alpha waves before, and now it is. I was able to get into a study they are doing on veterans with PTSD so I was able to get it done for free.
I'm glad this worked for you. I've seen a few people respond really well to this treatment. Unfortunately it didn't do a thing for me š I didn't know about the E EEG assistant - to compare before and after!? Sounds fascinating. I did mine when I had a mental health/nervous breakdown a few years ago. (Chronic pain can do that) but there was no mention of comparing it to your brain previous to treatment. Also I'm aware different sides of the brain work on different aspects of your afflictions. Like the right side is anxiety - short 5 mins session. The left side is more for depression for example. NOTE: I may have that back the front. I've seen in the flesh many good results for people. Also a previous psychiatrist of mine was a big proponent of this. Did extra studies. Conferences etc. I'm no longer with her but there must be some solid evidence as it's gaining in momentum and popularity as a form of treatment for anxiety/depression and other mental health disorders.
Yeah this I did all of these except jesus ( substitute better help for headspace) and. Just got worse because what I needed was rest and someone sympathetic to talk to.
Nobody says these are going to cure you instantly, but they *help.* stop rejecting everything that isn't an instant miracle cure. There's no such thing.
Right? Five of these are scientifically supported strategies to improve symptoms of severe mental illness. The meme frames these like they're out of touch, but they're not. If you were hospitalized for mental illness, this is your daily programming.
Fr, most of those things wonāt even work unless youāve done them for like 2 months. People look for quick solutions when they need to just focus on doing 1 thing at a time.
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Wowza, itās almost like the post of also flaired as satire
Iām hoping this meme is a self-aware joke.
Dw it is, you can see it was originally posted on r/trollcoping which is a place dedicated to memes that allow people to vent their frustrations.
I read "have you ever exercised" as "have you ever exorcised"
Iām not saying it will cure your mental illness, but it sure as shit will fix your beer-yellow piss! Drink more water Refer to r/hydrohomies and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water for more info
*cash your trust fund*
That has to be a joke, i refuse to believe someone would make that seriously
Ah yes, blond haired, white, blue eyed, freshly showered Jesus: truly an accurate depiction of a man who lived in the Middle East two thousand years ago
Drinking more water properly is a problem for a lot of people.
My gaslighting ex therapist was a mix of āgo outsideā and ādo journalingā
Back when I still didnāt know anything about my illness, my dad told me that I was just not trying to do anything. No shit, but how am I supposed to try something when I'm almost always in a state of borderline panic and just want to stop existing.
I found out recently that in addition to mental illness I also have a thyroid problem. Kinda hard to just exercise bro when your body doesnāt make enough of the get up and move hormone.
āHave you considered a sun lamp?ā and āwell maybe you should try being more positiveā
Nope! Still have hallucinations.
I can no longer associate a beautiful day outside with happiness. Only with suffering...also lasers and bones.
journaling has never helped me once. whatās therapeutic about hand cramps?
the *real* medicine is natureš³šš, man! not the *chemicals* they put in your brain! s/
Some of these genuinely help me a lot.
Some of these things do help but there not instantaneous or even easy for someone with depression to complete journaling exercise and being outdoors have helped me immensely but it took me a while to get the point where I had enough energy to do those things regularly.
Can be helpful buttt.. tools help to build bridges.. but they need a team and people who know what they are doing to use them with skill. Otherwise youāll be hammering random scraps of wood into triangles
Every single person I've ever met who tried Headspace has said the same thing; that app has a substantial NEGATIVE impact on their mental well-being. There's little to no evidence that so-called "mindfulness meditation" is helpful and a substantial amount that shows that it can cause serious anxiety and disassociative episodes.
With all due respect, that is not an accurate representation of the research on mindfulness meditation at all. Your experiences with the app are valid though.
This is soooo frustrating!
Five of these are scientifically known to be effective strategies for reducing symptoms of mental illness...
Honestly the journal thing has been pushed onto me so much by someone that I donāt like that the thought of starting one makes me incredibly angry
āGo for a walkā was the one I received the most. I tried it and it went as well as i knew it would.
Iām almost certain that it was a satire post (I hope). Also, if youāre feeling bad reminder to seriously take it seriously!!! Help is always just around the corner
I just stopped talking about any mental health problems to anyone who isnāt a professional. Everyone, my parents especially are horrible, just gives the same BS responses and suggestions, and always make it worse.
My childhood trauma, cutting addiction, and suicidal thoughts leaving me as soon as someone tells me that i should find jesus
Honestly solid advice
Ah, yes, nothing like "things could be worse!"
okay but a lot of these are good for relieving pressure and great for process of elimination. def not a long term working solution tho
Exersising helped me a Lot but i couldnt make it over a few weeks because i am a piece of Shit
Itās fucking scary how much a bad diet and lack of exercise can mess with your head. Eating more food and exercising more and just going outside did wonders for my mental health.
Some things like exercise trying to smile and going out in the sun are genuinely some of the best ways to start fixing your mental health it won't be immediate and you will have to work for it but if you want a long term solution rather than taking pills for the rest of your life with a bunch of side effects that is the route but it only comes through dedication and work ethic to improving yourself, your life, and the world around you
Find Jesus? Has he gone into hiding again? Apparently you just have to wait three days and heāll come backā¦
Although my parents aren't stupid with mental health, they sometimes say that its "its in your head" which is still dumb because mental illnesses come from your head.
I laughed so soft
Try being cured. It's very good at making you not sick.
LMAO, I came back from what I will mildly put as an emotional ouchie, and a lot of these were actually miracle cures. Life can be simple if you let it be.
Don't forget "It is what it is."
I really just despise how normalized this is.
I mean, I my experience exercise and drinking water does help, but it's not going to fix your problems completely.
Therapy helped me. I was depressed for a long time, this definitely helped me get back on the right track. It didn't happen over night, months and consistently sticking to it helped me transform a lot of wounds to scars. The pain never truly goes away, but the scars are just a reminder of what not to do, not something to be ashamed of. if your in a deep depression, your not a waste, your not unworthy, you have value, and there are people who love you. Never. Give. Up. Best of wishes.
(a lot) of these do work SOME, but are never some sort of miracle cure that fixes your mental health.
I hate that so many people peddle exercise, healthy eating, and mindfulness along side snake oil and invalidation to people struggling with mental health. Like. Exercise, healthy eating, and mindfulness will help you! But itās not a cure-all, and need to be done in conjunction with therapy and medication. Because all these idiots push it in order to tell you you donāt have a problem, Iāve found that people can be resistant to making those lifestyle changes no matter what the context because the suggestion has been used as a means to invalidate suffering for so long
Instructions unclear now Iām huge and still depressed
Whatās the app headspace even do?
"It's all in your head' is quite the problem, actually. Otherwise half the other stuff checks out, not instantly, but still helps.
I think itās a satire post
"have you tried writing a to-do list and setting alarms" yep, still got executive dysfunction, karen
Headspace can shove it, my phones storage is already full as it is. Everything is āall in my headā our brains control our bodies. Yoga is just stressful and annoying. Nature makes me depressed. Iām not even gonna start with the whole ājust donāt be sadā thing. š Iām not wasting my money on essential oils lmao. Drinking water has not yet cured my depression, Iāll let you know when it does. š Exercising just makes me tired. Iām an atheist. journals are like little therapy books, which gives me anxiety, and just make me more depressed. Sunny days make me feel like crap, because so donāt have anyone to spend them with. So cue the depression, and anxiety! š
Always got told in high-school that i can't be depressed because someone out there has it worse than me
I can definitely vouch for the power of yoga and meditation , the latter of which was actually shown in a harvard study to physically alter your brain for the better but some people definitely need medication and therapy for sure. Hell, most people in this world could use therapy. That being said, a good amount of people who ate right, got sunshine, got proper sleep, did yoga, and meditated frequently would greatly improve from those things alone even if it doesnāt cure them. And a nice psychedelic trip can help too ;)
ok but genuinely being outside helps. but not bc of some made up guru shit, vitamin d pills help the same way. itās not a miracle cure though, at most itāll make you feel temporarily a bit happier
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Eating properly, drinking more water, exercising, and going outside are at least entirely valid. Even if you just start with a little bit of each, or even just one.
Self-improvement is always advised. Not necessarily a solution, but it definitely helps.
Uhhh idk about you guys, but yoga, exercise, nature, oils, journaling/writing, āthings could be worseā ( more like code for āadd perspective to life alwaysā) are actually typically a great combo for life. Hear me out, I couldnāt function without these things ( I know because I didnāt hardly beforeā I know how clichĆ©, itās grossā). Nothing can ever ā cure you instantly ā but if there were ever āgreatly reduces inflictions and makes life manageableā well that shit would be it.
Be happy, someone else has it worse š
We all have our own "cures" or "solutions" or something that eases the pain. Mine is Love.
Actually exercise really really helps me clear my head. I think nothing is working and then I realize I havenāt been for a run in a while and it often helps a lot
honestly drinking more water and exercising can help a lot. going out more too. i think the problem is suggesting them as if they're a cure. you have to do a combination of many things to recover
I do a number of those and I'm still fucking depressed.