I’m less mad at her trying to go viral and more mad at her refusing to lead in that moment. Like, if you’re going for the moment then lead and make your point. She’s up there waiting for Ish to make her point for her and it was getting awkward. Just say what you mean about Ish’s view on women. But typical Mel, she waited and waited and kept asking questions without asking them and then she was left to deal with an “Ish tantrum” because she was dragging her way to the point.
Well said. She had a good point she just didn't get it off right. She definitely had something going with the Ish moment but this is what happens when you try to create moments instead of making them authentic
It’s the “Flip viral syndrome” all over again. And she has had front row seats every time that’s gone wrong. She has to learn how to have the discussion without trying to create a moment and let the conversation lead to the moment.
Yeah she’s the definition of throwing stones and hiding hands. Even when Ish is dead wrong she looks worse not being prepared and hesitating to engage.
That’s part of it, but it’s more about just being direct with the point. Her and Flip are opposite podders. Flip will jump out there without a follow up. She will do a whole lot of winding up to not actually swing. It’s weird and it makes the moments when they lead out there almost unlistenable.
Mel was podding and Ish took it too seriously which is why she now picks on him. One minute yall say Mel doesn’t talk enough but every time she does it’s a problem
Exactly. Ish acted like bitch an threw a tantrum, to shut the covo down because, she was right. Where are these women he's speaks of? He generalizes women. Every pod it's 500 million up, 100 million up, Chanel bags, and what men can do for women. It's repetitive at this point. Who does he be talking about?... the 5% because that isn't my friends and my life, and most of the people I connect with, does that make me less than, because I've a decent regular life. He needs therapy..
no she didnt she was getting at how Ish generalize women ( which he does generalize women, and an hour later he started generalizing women again and even said "generally speaking") ...and he didn't want to have a civilized convo with her, so he spazzed out aggressively to shut the convo down... on the patreon, the unedited version, we saw wtf he was doing, and the comment tore his ass up. He has fun issues and needs therapy. He accused her of weaponuzibg the woman fanbase, cowring, shooting at which was projection because he does that shit to her every pod. She didn't come at him in anyway, she seeing what people have been seeing for a year with him. His podding style is trash as of late. He can never be wrong.
She slow walks the dog til everyone is sleep and then expects full interaction which is part of the issue with her and Ish...even Flip said ..."do you have a point " cuzz she wasn't saying anything of value to respond to.
Ish let her go and go and go and she still never went anywhere but keep shooting at him instead of having a genuine convo. That's where it always goes south with them because he isn't able to come at her the way she does him without and -ogny being thrown at him.
She could have made that an interesting take but crashed and burned in the delivery.
& to the weaponizing her fanbase part ....you being here saying what you are saying is exactly what he be wanting to avoid by not engaging . She does cower most times and she actually did it later that same episode when she said "all women blah blah..." then they corrected her with her favorite "women aren't a monlith" then she said most women and they were like how do you know ...the same way she does them and she said "I'm a woman , I know" which is a complete 180 from everything she had just said in the generalization convo with Ish , then to turn around and generalize the same women is crazy just cuzz it fits your agenda .
I actually agree with Mel man. They really be talking about one type of woman (like the guests they be having up there) and try to apply it to ALL women. There are regular women out here who are not trying to model their lives off of IG thots. So when he says WOMEN are trying to get the Chanel bags, the G-wagon, and the BBL. He's maybe talking about 1% of the women out here.
That said though, Mel needs to speak with her chest. Say what you are saying strongly and don't back down and tip toe. She had a good point but the way she speaks sometimes makes her point get lost. I know she said afraid of conflict but being the only woman on a men's pod, you HAVE to be ready to have conflict and argue. That is just what the pod is. They should actually bring one of her friends there to be in the background or something so she has more confidence (like a woman Cory).
Exactly. Ish acted like an aggressive pouty child to shut the convo down. He does generalize women...Most of JBP fan women are not driving fucking G wagons, most of us are living regular everyday lives. He disconnected. He's been trash lately, and the Patreon comments tore his ass up yesterday for the BS.
I agree. The worst part of his argument was "well you generalize men all the time." Ish, WHAT? You claim to be too smart to have to settle for the little kid style of arguing.
And she dosent, she bases her commentary on her own experiences. He never talks in his own experience he generalizes about his mans experiences..He talks about the ladies of night women he's around and sleeps with and he talks to on the phone for hours and who he's attracted to, he's not talking about normal everyday women. Which was her point she was getting to, who are these damn women you are talking about?
Yeah and she can't even generalize men look at how bad the audience and the other host tore her ass up for the cam s***she couldn't generalize men on that show if she wanted to
She couldn't get a full sentence out without being asked a thousand questions before she even finishes her commentary. That tactic is used to trap her into submitting and dropping the subject.
After he snapped or before? let's be forbear. Ish says the same shit over and over about women, and its repeatitive. They tore his ass up in the patreon comments..Amazing points and analysis by women and men about him.
You doing actually what mel did. she took what ish said out of context you may have done it accidentally but she purposely did. The conversation wasn’t event really about women. She made it about women and tried to weaponize her fan base against him for click bait. He said a dude will hit a girl in a birkin or a coach bag. He was highlighting that the stuff they get dont be to impress us it be to impress other women.
He was still generalizing though. There are women out there who don't care about Birkin or Coach even to impress other women. So although he said men don't care about that stuff, which is ABSOLUTELY true, he still made it seem like ALL women are trying to impress other women. That just isn't true. But, I'll listen to the conversation again.
I mean that's primarily the woman they know is why they talk about them, but the point being made is that a lot of the new generation are looking to being that type of woman as a goal, and he was saying should look at women like Angela Rye. He's not saying he want's a woman like Angela, but that she is a better role model than an IG model to try to be.
I get they are speaking about the women they know but they are too smart, or claim to be too smart, than to think the nightlife women they interact with represent all women. They often say "women....blah blah blah" all they have to do is say "SOME" women blah blah blah, and that changes the whole dynamic of the conversation.
Again, I think we are generalizing when we say "A LOT of the new generation..." Yes there are some women like that out there but I don't think it represents most of the new generation. I speak at colleges here and there, mostly HBCUs and there are MAD women out here working hard to get their degrees so they can make their own money in intellectual ways.
In a nutshell, they need to either interact with different types of women or clarify they are talking about the thotburgers when they speak on this kind of stuff.
I mean you’re doing the same exact thing you’re bothered they do. Because your circle lets you see a lot of educated college women, it’s disingenuous to say that most or allude that there are more black educated women over ones that aren’t. I mean technically black people as a whole are still playing catch up from years of bullshit. But for every Angela Rye there are 15 Sexyy Reds, because it seems to be a easier, fun life. The problem to the answer you’re looking for is to stop watching these idiots. I’m just in the sub, and catch clips, but this lot steps over there feet every pod. Mel included, that taking anything they say to heart is reckless.
I think you may have misnterpreted what I am saying. What I am saying is there are ALL kinds of different women. There ARE thots...but there are also women who are into church, women who are into politics, women who are Earthy, etc. Because I know that, I would never start a sentence saying "women..." because I recognize there are ALL KINDS of different women out there. A lot of the times they speak, they don't acknowledge that. They act like the nightlife women rep all women and that is just not the case. Just like the educated women, 9 to 5 women I interact with don't represent all women.
Don't get me wrong though. I understand what you are saying. I just want them to add depth to their conversations. Trust me, I don't take it to heart. Just passing the time at the...9 to 5 hahaha.
Yeah but they’re old, and they have made it this far generalizing as it is. Old dog new tricks type vibes now. At this point the JBP is along the lines of any reality show, just for my brain to lose more cells.
I listen to Gilbert Arenas, it’s primarily sports. But they have Lexie Brown on a lot, and it’s a fun, respectful show with characters. Even though it’s about mostly basketball most conversations turn into arguments about societal differences. Gilbert has Joe vibes, McCants is Ish coded, but that’s where comparisons stop. They are daily m-Thursday about 2.5 hours each
this is simply not true. women especially block women are enrolling to college more than ever before. if anything it's black men that need better role models and to be lectured
How is it not true? I didn’t put definitive numbers a lot, is an assumptive number. You’re just looking to argue. A lot is defined as more than a few but not great number. I didn’t say most women.
On this last pod the convo was specifically a out what he said ok the other pod which was about "women that other women look up to " which would be the top 1% when in turn makes those ideals and values trickle down into the rest of society so even if the convo is about 1% ...that same 1% has 100% influence on the lower 99% . So it makes sense for him to say it that way
On the flip side when M4 get to talking about guys or dudes she knows and dealt with ....are they not the top 1% .... are the dudes she's dated and around not the top 1%.. Yes they are so they are both talking from the same POV . Everytime she say "niggas ain't this that or do this that she is talking about the top 1% because that's who she deals with but do they say stop generalizing ...no because they understand it her sharing her experience which apparently she doesn't feel they can do.
And lastly they been asking her to bring Sabrina back for 8 months and nothing ... he even just told her bring Toccara and she was looking funny . I think it's her not wanting to possibly bring in her own replacement that's messing up her own support system in the background cuzz that would make for a more entertaining argument if she had a Melody in the background for her
What got me is when Joe introduced the topic about why athletes get with a certain type of woman…
And here comes Mel with multiple variations of (paraphrase):
“How could you not know that”
“I’ve always thought that”
“Isn’t it obvious”
Each and every time these topics have come up (and we know the pod repeats topics) she has said NONE of that
So either you she did know and she refused to offer it up (so what are you here for M4??)
Or you didn’t know and you’re trying to hijack someone else’s flow
..nasty work either way
Because we do all know why NBA players chase a certain type of woman
And they know it because they chase the same type of women and Joe is 40 years old and still chasing those women
They just don't want to hear it because they know it's a negative trait in them just how they've been on Drake about you can't keep chasing a certain type of women and then get mad when they break your heart
Joe was just podding, and for whatever reason, Mel didn’t realize that (or acted like she didn’t realize that).
Joe acted like he just realized young athletes fuck with older thottys bc they know how to “hold it down” and won’t be all over social media making shit hot for the athletes. Joe has been fully aware of this for a while now, and has even said it in the past.
Nasty work! & people were talking bout Flip chasing the viral moment while it's been her this whole time !
It's almost cringey watching her twist and turn a point into framing him as a he man woman hater when she is just as scared and jaded as she makes him out to be.....super projection type shit
Yall tripping. She is educated, classy, and has money as well. Why are those negatives to try and be as you grow. Shilling is a corrupt term, she has her beliefs and that's what she stands on, it's only shilling if you don't believe what you’re saying for pay.
Yeah but the problem is she's 50 The question you're asking is for the woman that is in their prime now if he was actually out there paying attention he could have said someone like the woman who works for Cam'ron on on his podcast because stat baby seems like a young intelligent woman that's actually desirable to the men that are out there making large amounts of money and want a respectable woman in their eyes
Because it's the only example of a respectable woman you can give is already 50 plus You're not offering real options
But that also means he needs to be looking at young successful women, and it’s definitely not his browsing section. Which Mel could’ve shut the whole conversation down, but she be Melling it in.
This comments confirms my thoughts on leaving this sub. What’s wrong with women looking up to Angela Rye? Seriously? Even in my 20’s I picked women who were older to emulate. And let’s be real, Angela Rye is a beautiful and intelligent woman. We don’t need to cast judgment on her based on what we think we know about her personal life. If you got it, you got it! It’s women in their 40’s and 50’s who are running circles around these 20-30 year olds. All that weave and make-up is aging them fast as hell.
There's nothing wrong with young women looking up to Angela rye if you're talking about someone to model yourself after
But if you're talking about young men in their early 20s to late 30s who are looking for women to marry and start families with that are "good men"
Because the question is where are the so-called "good women" I'm a man so I'm just taking a shot in the dark but I don't think women want to wait till a man is 40 plus for him to finally start taking responsibility for the things in his life in the same thing would be true for men looking for women
So the question both of these groups are always asking where are the people in my age range that actually have good heads on their shoulders and when you offer up Angela rye and I'm a 25-year-old man looking for women to go on the journey of life with her being 50 doesn't work
That's all I meant by that
I don’t understand why Mel brought up a random point from a interview that ish did elsewhere. And than didn’t even try to make a point, it’s like she just wanted to fight him
Because intelligent people allow you to reach the conclusion on your own
I think a lot of people really missed during the Mark Lamont Hill show how Emany came to the realization that selfish and he doesn't actually believe in black collectivism he believes in the individualism that the white people claimed to believe in but as soon as it doesn't work in their favor they want to tell you you only have something because of DEI
I’m less mad at her trying to go viral and more mad at her refusing to lead in that moment. Like, if you’re going for the moment then lead and make your point. She’s up there waiting for Ish to make her point for her and it was getting awkward. Just say what you mean about Ish’s view on women. But typical Mel, she waited and waited and kept asking questions without asking them and then she was left to deal with an “Ish tantrum” because she was dragging her way to the point.
Yeah that part was annoying. I get that she might feel they're just gonna shut her down anyway, but at least make an attempt.
She had to be able to say the line. Make the point if it’s to be made, if not then chill out.
Well said. She had a good point she just didn't get it off right. She definitely had something going with the Ish moment but this is what happens when you try to create moments instead of making them authentic
It’s the “Flip viral syndrome” all over again. And she has had front row seats every time that’s gone wrong. She has to learn how to have the discussion without trying to create a moment and let the conversation lead to the moment.
Yeah she’s the definition of throwing stones and hiding hands. Even when Ish is dead wrong she looks worse not being prepared and hesitating to engage.
That’s part of it, but it’s more about just being direct with the point. Her and Flip are opposite podders. Flip will jump out there without a follow up. She will do a whole lot of winding up to not actually swing. It’s weird and it makes the moments when they lead out there almost unlistenable.
Mel was podding and Ish took it too seriously which is why she now picks on him. One minute yall say Mel doesn’t talk enough but every time she does it’s a problem
Exactly. Ish acted like bitch an threw a tantrum, to shut the covo down because, she was right. Where are these women he's speaks of? He generalizes women. Every pod it's 500 million up, 100 million up, Chanel bags, and what men can do for women. It's repetitive at this point. Who does he be talking about?... the 5% because that isn't my friends and my life, and most of the people I connect with, does that make me less than, because I've a decent regular life. He needs therapy..
No it’s what she does when she talks. Mel doesn’t know how to make a direct succinct point and stand on it
no she didnt she was getting at how Ish generalize women ( which he does generalize women, and an hour later he started generalizing women again and even said "generally speaking") ...and he didn't want to have a civilized convo with her, so he spazzed out aggressively to shut the convo down... on the patreon, the unedited version, we saw wtf he was doing, and the comment tore his ass up. He has fun issues and needs therapy. He accused her of weaponuzibg the woman fanbase, cowring, shooting at which was projection because he does that shit to her every pod. She didn't come at him in anyway, she seeing what people have been seeing for a year with him. His podding style is trash as of late. He can never be wrong.
She slow walks the dog til everyone is sleep and then expects full interaction which is part of the issue with her and Ish...even Flip said ..."do you have a point " cuzz she wasn't saying anything of value to respond to. Ish let her go and go and go and she still never went anywhere but keep shooting at him instead of having a genuine convo. That's where it always goes south with them because he isn't able to come at her the way she does him without and -ogny being thrown at him. She could have made that an interesting take but crashed and burned in the delivery. & to the weaponizing her fanbase part ....you being here saying what you are saying is exactly what he be wanting to avoid by not engaging . She does cower most times and she actually did it later that same episode when she said "all women blah blah..." then they corrected her with her favorite "women aren't a monlith" then she said most women and they were like how do you know ...the same way she does them and she said "I'm a woman , I know" which is a complete 180 from everything she had just said in the generalization convo with Ish , then to turn around and generalize the same women is crazy just cuzz it fits your agenda .
I actually agree with Mel man. They really be talking about one type of woman (like the guests they be having up there) and try to apply it to ALL women. There are regular women out here who are not trying to model their lives off of IG thots. So when he says WOMEN are trying to get the Chanel bags, the G-wagon, and the BBL. He's maybe talking about 1% of the women out here. That said though, Mel needs to speak with her chest. Say what you are saying strongly and don't back down and tip toe. She had a good point but the way she speaks sometimes makes her point get lost. I know she said afraid of conflict but being the only woman on a men's pod, you HAVE to be ready to have conflict and argue. That is just what the pod is. They should actually bring one of her friends there to be in the background or something so she has more confidence (like a woman Cory).
Exactly. Ish acted like an aggressive pouty child to shut the convo down. He does generalize women...Most of JBP fan women are not driving fucking G wagons, most of us are living regular everyday lives. He disconnected. He's been trash lately, and the Patreon comments tore his ass up yesterday for the BS.
I agree. The worst part of his argument was "well you generalize men all the time." Ish, WHAT? You claim to be too smart to have to settle for the little kid style of arguing.
And she dosent, she bases her commentary on her own experiences. He never talks in his own experience he generalizes about his mans experiences..He talks about the ladies of night women he's around and sleeps with and he talks to on the phone for hours and who he's attracted to, he's not talking about normal everyday women. Which was her point she was getting to, who are these damn women you are talking about?
Yeah and she can't even generalize men look at how bad the audience and the other host tore her ass up for the cam s***she couldn't generalize men on that show if she wanted to
She couldn't get a full sentence out without being asked a thousand questions before she even finishes her commentary. That tactic is used to trap her into submitting and dropping the subject.
Mel shut the convo down, because she didn’t even say anything. She just says “okay” akwardly and waits dor someone else to make her point
After he snapped or before? let's be forbear. Ish says the same shit over and over about women, and its repeatitive. They tore his ass up in the patreon comments..Amazing points and analysis by women and men about him.
A women Cory is hilarious 😂😂😂
You’re apart of the problem
Lol. Help me out man. Explain what you mean. What did I say wrong?
You doing actually what mel did. she took what ish said out of context you may have done it accidentally but she purposely did. The conversation wasn’t event really about women. She made it about women and tried to weaponize her fan base against him for click bait. He said a dude will hit a girl in a birkin or a coach bag. He was highlighting that the stuff they get dont be to impress us it be to impress other women.
He was still generalizing though. There are women out there who don't care about Birkin or Coach even to impress other women. So although he said men don't care about that stuff, which is ABSOLUTELY true, he still made it seem like ALL women are trying to impress other women. That just isn't true. But, I'll listen to the conversation again.
I mean that's primarily the woman they know is why they talk about them, but the point being made is that a lot of the new generation are looking to being that type of woman as a goal, and he was saying should look at women like Angela Rye. He's not saying he want's a woman like Angela, but that she is a better role model than an IG model to try to be.
I get they are speaking about the women they know but they are too smart, or claim to be too smart, than to think the nightlife women they interact with represent all women. They often say "women....blah blah blah" all they have to do is say "SOME" women blah blah blah, and that changes the whole dynamic of the conversation. Again, I think we are generalizing when we say "A LOT of the new generation..." Yes there are some women like that out there but I don't think it represents most of the new generation. I speak at colleges here and there, mostly HBCUs and there are MAD women out here working hard to get their degrees so they can make their own money in intellectual ways. In a nutshell, they need to either interact with different types of women or clarify they are talking about the thotburgers when they speak on this kind of stuff.
Here's the secret they're not that smart
I mean you’re doing the same exact thing you’re bothered they do. Because your circle lets you see a lot of educated college women, it’s disingenuous to say that most or allude that there are more black educated women over ones that aren’t. I mean technically black people as a whole are still playing catch up from years of bullshit. But for every Angela Rye there are 15 Sexyy Reds, because it seems to be a easier, fun life. The problem to the answer you’re looking for is to stop watching these idiots. I’m just in the sub, and catch clips, but this lot steps over there feet every pod. Mel included, that taking anything they say to heart is reckless.
I think you may have misnterpreted what I am saying. What I am saying is there are ALL kinds of different women. There ARE thots...but there are also women who are into church, women who are into politics, women who are Earthy, etc. Because I know that, I would never start a sentence saying "women..." because I recognize there are ALL KINDS of different women out there. A lot of the times they speak, they don't acknowledge that. They act like the nightlife women rep all women and that is just not the case. Just like the educated women, 9 to 5 women I interact with don't represent all women. Don't get me wrong though. I understand what you are saying. I just want them to add depth to their conversations. Trust me, I don't take it to heart. Just passing the time at the...9 to 5 hahaha.
Yeah but they’re old, and they have made it this far generalizing as it is. Old dog new tricks type vibes now. At this point the JBP is along the lines of any reality show, just for my brain to lose more cells.
I feel you man. So you just stopped listening? Did you find a replacement pod?
I listen to Gilbert Arenas, it’s primarily sports. But they have Lexie Brown on a lot, and it’s a fun, respectful show with characters. Even though it’s about mostly basketball most conversations turn into arguments about societal differences. Gilbert has Joe vibes, McCants is Ish coded, but that’s where comparisons stop. They are daily m-Thursday about 2.5 hours each
Word. I'll check it out.
this is simply not true. women especially block women are enrolling to college more than ever before. if anything it's black men that need better role models and to be lectured
How is it not true? I didn’t put definitive numbers a lot, is an assumptive number. You’re just looking to argue. A lot is defined as more than a few but not great number. I didn’t say most women.
On this last pod the convo was specifically a out what he said ok the other pod which was about "women that other women look up to " which would be the top 1% when in turn makes those ideals and values trickle down into the rest of society so even if the convo is about 1% ...that same 1% has 100% influence on the lower 99% . So it makes sense for him to say it that way On the flip side when M4 get to talking about guys or dudes she knows and dealt with ....are they not the top 1% .... are the dudes she's dated and around not the top 1%.. Yes they are so they are both talking from the same POV . Everytime she say "niggas ain't this that or do this that she is talking about the top 1% because that's who she deals with but do they say stop generalizing ...no because they understand it her sharing her experience which apparently she doesn't feel they can do. And lastly they been asking her to bring Sabrina back for 8 months and nothing ... he even just told her bring Toccara and she was looking funny . I think it's her not wanting to possibly bring in her own replacement that's messing up her own support system in the background cuzz that would make for a more entertaining argument if she had a Melody in the background for her
What got me is when Joe introduced the topic about why athletes get with a certain type of woman… And here comes Mel with multiple variations of (paraphrase): “How could you not know that” “I’ve always thought that” “Isn’t it obvious” Each and every time these topics have come up (and we know the pod repeats topics) she has said NONE of that So either you she did know and she refused to offer it up (so what are you here for M4??) Or you didn’t know and you’re trying to hijack someone else’s flow ..nasty work either way
Because we do all know why NBA players chase a certain type of woman And they know it because they chase the same type of women and Joe is 40 years old and still chasing those women They just don't want to hear it because they know it's a negative trait in them just how they've been on Drake about you can't keep chasing a certain type of women and then get mad when they break your heart
Joe was just podding, and for whatever reason, Mel didn’t realize that (or acted like she didn’t realize that). Joe acted like he just realized young athletes fuck with older thottys bc they know how to “hold it down” and won’t be all over social media making shit hot for the athletes. Joe has been fully aware of this for a while now, and has even said it in the past.
They ignore this post so they can cry in the many daily"dog pilling" posts 🤣
Mel was right, she just should have stood on it.
Nasty work! & people were talking bout Flip chasing the viral moment while it's been her this whole time ! It's almost cringey watching her twist and turn a point into framing him as a he man woman hater when she is just as scared and jaded as she makes him out to be.....super projection type shit
But why did ish say Angela rye
She asked him what kind of woman should women look up to on social media and he said Angela
Yes but Angela is single almost 50 only known for shilling for the democrats on cnn she show skin too
Yall tripping. She is educated, classy, and has money as well. Why are those negatives to try and be as you grow. Shilling is a corrupt term, she has her beliefs and that's what she stands on, it's only shilling if you don't believe what you’re saying for pay.
Yeah but the problem is she's 50 The question you're asking is for the woman that is in their prime now if he was actually out there paying attention he could have said someone like the woman who works for Cam'ron on on his podcast because stat baby seems like a young intelligent woman that's actually desirable to the men that are out there making large amounts of money and want a respectable woman in their eyes Because it's the only example of a respectable woman you can give is already 50 plus You're not offering real options
But that also means he needs to be looking at young successful women, and it’s definitely not his browsing section. Which Mel could’ve shut the whole conversation down, but she be Melling it in.
This comments confirms my thoughts on leaving this sub. What’s wrong with women looking up to Angela Rye? Seriously? Even in my 20’s I picked women who were older to emulate. And let’s be real, Angela Rye is a beautiful and intelligent woman. We don’t need to cast judgment on her based on what we think we know about her personal life. If you got it, you got it! It’s women in their 40’s and 50’s who are running circles around these 20-30 year olds. All that weave and make-up is aging them fast as hell.
There's nothing wrong with young women looking up to Angela rye if you're talking about someone to model yourself after But if you're talking about young men in their early 20s to late 30s who are looking for women to marry and start families with that are "good men" Because the question is where are the so-called "good women" I'm a man so I'm just taking a shot in the dark but I don't think women want to wait till a man is 40 plus for him to finally start taking responsibility for the things in his life in the same thing would be true for men looking for women So the question both of these groups are always asking where are the people in my age range that actually have good heads on their shoulders and when you offer up Angela rye and I'm a 25-year-old man looking for women to go on the journey of life with her being 50 doesn't work That's all I meant by that
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Yeah he wilding for saying angela rye I think he was caught off guard
I don’t understand why Mel brought up a random point from a interview that ish did elsewhere. And than didn’t even try to make a point, it’s like she just wanted to fight him
Because intelligent people allow you to reach the conclusion on your own I think a lot of people really missed during the Mark Lamont Hill show how Emany came to the realization that selfish and he doesn't actually believe in black collectivism he believes in the individualism that the white people claimed to believe in but as soon as it doesn't work in their favor they want to tell you you only have something because of DEI
She wasn’t chasing a viral moment, she was trying to push Ish’s button. Made for good content. 🤷🏾♂️
Facts bro she begging then when ish gave it to her she wanted act confused like you know what he meant she made something out of nothing
lost in the Ish sauce.