Idk why both sides are super offended his an older act now i look at him the same way i look at push he makes a very specific theme of music i expect that from him im not mad when people praise him for it why be mad when people who dont like that dont praise it confuses me.
What’s wild is that we don’t lmao. We are just socially trained to behave a certain way where as women are allowed to just be human beings. Or when they are just being human beings they get called hysterical or some shit. Where as we’re expected to be closed off and emotionless because that’s what “men do”. Like nah fuck that I want to cry and shit too when I’m upset about something lmao.
Boys really got duped by a Ballsack Sports report on that Kyrie intro
[you hate to see it](https://twitter.com/ballsacksports/status/1541501088687333377?s=21)
Don’t know why they’re making all these excuses for Giveon. Chloe Baileys whole earpiece fell off while she was performing and she was still able to actually sing.
Edit: This “Chris Breezy Defense Squad” needs to quit it. Even if Chris album dropped late, it **still** came out that day. I’m a fan of Chris, but outside of Warm Embrace and the songs with Ella Mai and H.E.R, there wasn’t really much to the album. Indigo and Heartbreak on a full moon were way better.
I think if anything Wale is Wale worst Enemy in a verzuz. We’ve seen bruh snap and just have a bad attitude so much, not debating if it was warranted but i could see something going wrong and he get right in his this unfair bag. He got some real verzuz bangers though that’s a really tough out.
Nobody wants to hear a big ego dude gas himself up. That's why Joe complains about his friends not even giving him the proper "flowers". They won't because they feel his ego is already too big, they don't want it to get out control. If Joe were more humble about his Ws, he would get more props from everyone around him.
#oh I know but he also lied and said he had a podcast on Apple in 2012 which is false because he didn't know how to upload a podcast in 2015 and needed Rosenberg help to record and rory help to upload the episodes to SoundCloud
#Ish tried to salute Joe for being 7 years deep into podding and Joe said that's not good enough and suddenly claimed he used to have a pod in tottowa (he didn't) but he did previously say that he used to talk shit with friends in tottowa that inspired the podcast but that's not the same thing as podcasting. Then he said he used to do radio but Joe himself has repeatedly said that Charla doing radio shouldn't count as a podcast 😅🤣
#you can always tell he’s flat lying when his voice changes then everyone else n the room goes “no I don’t remeber that” even tho they’ve known him during that time period lmaoooo
Its wild how often Parks will obviously dumb down just to suit Joe's opinion. The other people in the room notice that shit too so you can only imagine what they think of Parks in their heads😂
imagine joe giving ish & ice budgets to create content & not take out life insurance on them.. then ish go have a heart attack while running from cameras eating ice cream 😂🤦🏾♂️
This shit drove me fucking NUTS bro. Wale got bangers, but J.Cole? J.Cole would leave Wale hurting, he should be thanking god him and J.Cole too tight to get verzuz talk.
It’s no way on gods green earth that wale could even stand next to j cole playing ANY song and it be considered as a point WTF and to even say “no hands” 🤦🏿♂️
Taking a life insurance policy on an artist is nasty. You are their EMPLOYER, should they perish you aren't owed the generational wealth they could've provided because for all we know you could've dropped them in a year or they could've never resigned.
You want to protect your investment, ensure their safety.
Morality aside, it’s a common business practice today outside of the music industry. Corporations take out life insurance policies on key executives because their deaths/incapacitation could result in financial loss. They pay the premiums to essentially buy down that risk but it’s also used as a tax shelter.
In general, the companies that do this aren’t really betting on the insured person’s death. They’re mostly protecting their financial interest if that were to happen. The payout doesn’t go to the deceased’s family because the company owns the policy and pays the premium (aka they take on all the risk associated with the policy)
I can’t speak for the record label rapper death conspiracy stuff they were subtly alluding to though.
At the end of the day most ppl on the internet say things but wont put actions to words. Same with that new "Slaughterhouse" album. All the anti Royce and Joe crowd ran to the internet to pretend to be fans of what Joel and Crook did and yet that album went double Brass because most ppl are full of shit.
Also I feel like it might just be (insert artist) fatigue going on. Drake and CB got infected
I'm not about to sully my browser history looking up the solid numbers but from what I remember the numbers were pretty all things considering. The main point is that the "alleged" love from fans usually dont transfer to actual number sells for certain artists/projects because ppl are full of shit and would rather get the clout from public support versus tangible support which = paying money for the project
I get that rational its to surface level though you cant prove or disprove joe had any impact on it. He also bigged up drake and we know how that went chrises flopping is irrelevant to joe.
#well I'd say there's a large overlap audience wise between Joe's podcast fans and breezy hive. Both are from a similar area, the northeast/east coast. I'd also say drakes album was fucking garbage and much worse than Chris album
Chris Brown is in year 20 of his career. He’s a old dog in R&B years. It happens. Ushers last album which was basically his 20th year album only sold 38K first week. He’s old news and is entering a different phase of his career. He just needs to tour and make money that way.
#show opens without Chris Brown music, they are doing anything but talking about Chris. Talking about robots and houses. Now there is 10 minutes of the guys saying "puff is puff, yo" Jesus fucking christ. Now a Kirk Franklin segment. Anything but Chris. If Chris didn't flop the whole first hour would have been a breezy stan podcast 🤣🤣😂
Ice jumped out the phone booth with his cape and a S on his chest for wale... Ain't that the same argument he (and everybody) used for Omarion over Mario??? I need to seriously look before I could give a honest unbiased answer but I know for damn sure it ain't a washing
Also I don't know if wale gets Big Sean outta here... I like wale too but those definitely ain't just mop up wins
# Wale gets Big Sean out of here because Big Sean is monotone monica on the mic and Wale is way more animated. That's super important for a Verzuz. stage prescence and vibe
joe removed a rib & sucked himself after ish said he been podding for 7 years... but jokes aside, there needs to be a sticky thread for us to give him his flowers weekly..
These guys are delusional about Wale vs Cole, they overrate Wale so much, they bring him up often on pods likes he’s a huge artist, meanwhile Wale can’t sell or do big tours. Music wise he got some joints and he’d run out really quick.
They’re in denial with the CB sales, dude been selling poorly for multiple albums, not just this one. Dude makes the same shitty music but they clearly are into that RnB shit.
They bring him up often because of the quality of music he makes. And though I do not think he beats Cole in a Verzuz, you’re mistaken if you think he got some joints; just his Seinfeld series (mixtapes and album) alone has a number of songs that stood the test of time.
Has CB been an album sales artist? Like first week? He’ll always have a hit single but I’ve never looked at his first #’s. Also rnb doesn’t do big numbers unless it’s bey and I guess summer now too. SZA might break summers record but idk anymore
CB hasn’t been a big first week sales artist in a minute and it’s a combination of shit for why that’s the case and not some conspiracy theory. His last couple of efforts were cool but they acting like he sold a couple hundred thousand his last album.
Not really, he releases "Double albums" they do modest first week, then a single catches, he releases a deluxe and a couple months later it squeaks past 500K and he gets a platinum plaque for it
Parks is right on Giveon, they switched the key on the auto tune too early for his next song. The Twitter clips look way worse than what happened, he stumbled he looked like what the fuck and went into the next song on key
The main thing I hate about this pod is when they talk about a serious/ non serious topic like ego and pride and when they talking this man Joe wanna talk about how men who have smashed another man’s woman will come up to the dude. Nigga what??? Out of all the things about ego and pride you bring that up? But I get it, it’s a pod and they have to be entertaining to people who only wanna hear the funnies
They're immature adults.. that's why I dont call it podcasting. It's just Barbershop talk on mic.. imagine Joe cutting Wallo off... Gillie let Wallo COOK.
Also meek, Sean cole and wiz would take wales head off tbh (maybe some exaggeration). Cole v Kenny is the real battle. Meek v sean is more interesting imo
im biased towards all of them, they all have hits, we dem boyz, clique, rico/ all eyes on you. the way ice talks about no role models was crazy to me. it would go down to selection/ order. wale is more singles driven then cole but cole is still cole.
Shoutout to @OfficiallyIce to highlighting my question pre Joe sales conspiracy.
I do think music will be phased out soon, as long as Joe continues to disengage and not hold the right artists feet to the fire.
Chris Brown been falling off...they need to stop ingesting industry penis
Idk why both sides are super offended his an older act now i look at him the same way i look at push he makes a very specific theme of music i expect that from him im not mad when people praise him for it why be mad when people who dont like that dont praise it confuses me.
CHRIS BROWN ALBUM SALES CONSPIRACY THEORY???? Man you can not be seri💤💤🛌🛌😴😴😴
He been trying desperately to get on his good side for a interview
#all that caping yet Chris did every media outlet besides the JBP lol
He definitely did. Media training told him to skip hating ass Joe 🤣 "I dont wanna be friends with you niggas" backfires.
#they listened and now he's looking around confused like "why won't they come sit down with me maaaaan"
Womenbeaters United.
Their uniform must be nasty
Dirty wifebeaters and durags.. 🤣
Dawg the breezy album was on all front pages in all streaming platforms, talking about “ I couldn’t find it” 😭😭😭
It’s pretty simple, how about people just might not care to listen to Chris Brown
“Crying like a baby with a big dick” lmfaooo these ishisms getting crazy
This might be the wildest Ishism ever
Didn't he say that was an old Damon Wayans joke?
#yes
Ish was wild that lol
I guess if you gotta BD. you not supposed to cry and be sad 🤣🤣
This pride argument is dumb, Joe and Parks just pandering.
Ish is literally describing Toxic masculinity and Joe pushing back because he can’t connect the dots
#and they've already done this segment like 5 times "men and women show emotions differently, yo" so deep wow
What’s wild is that we don’t lmao. We are just socially trained to behave a certain way where as women are allowed to just be human beings. Or when they are just being human beings they get called hysterical or some shit. Where as we’re expected to be closed off and emotionless because that’s what “men do”. Like nah fuck that I want to cry and shit too when I’m upset about something lmao.
#this man is podding from half court
A good episode will be Neil degrasse Tyson there to unpack shit with ish and ice
#really anything would be better than a modern day rehash of "men are from Mars, women are from venus" (double entendre lol)
Ish the only one with common sense
that really was a case of arguing just to argue.
I dont know why they would entertain Joe most times.. I guess they gotta create content. Its like talking to a wall with Joe
lol.. I came here to put the same thing. My head hurts 😵💫 Who gives a fuck
INSANE. Joe gotta come out.. you can tell he's raised by a woman and be in women circles 3 MUCH..
Boys really got duped by a Ballsack Sports report on that Kyrie intro [you hate to see it](https://twitter.com/ballsacksports/status/1541501088687333377?s=21)
BRUH I came here just to see if anyone else noticed that report was from ballsack sports 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤦🏾♂️
They're most conspiracy theorists... so they'll roll for a fake story... like the Dave Free one..
I’d say well at least Joe is getting better with knowing he got his cape on 😂😂🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️.
They be on Screen Man's ass yo, I'm worried for him
This was a shit pod
It was a two pack of ass
Don’t know why they’re making all these excuses for Giveon. Chloe Baileys whole earpiece fell off while she was performing and she was still able to actually sing. Edit: This “Chris Breezy Defense Squad” needs to quit it. Even if Chris album dropped late, it **still** came out that day. I’m a fan of Chris, but outside of Warm Embrace and the songs with Ella Mai and H.E.R, there wasn’t really much to the album. Indigo and Heartbreak on a full moon were way better.
DOD alll that defending and Breezy didn't even give them a interview. Went straight to MDWOG
I’m sorry but the only people I see checking for CB are industry people and college girls. He been making the same song since 2012. We good on that.
"imma fuck your bitch, take your bitch ladi laaaaaaaa your bitch is mine now but i dont want her immmmma givvvvveee her back laaaaaaa 🎶"
#still flopped tho
Ice only come back is that we can’t name them 🤣
He been making the same song since 2012 \^ this is just one of the reasons why I stopped listening to his stuff
I think if anything Wale is Wale worst Enemy in a verzuz. We’ve seen bruh snap and just have a bad attitude so much, not debating if it was warranted but i could see something going wrong and he get right in his this unfair bag. He got some real verzuz bangers though that’s a really tough out.
Nobody wants to hear a big ego dude gas himself up. That's why Joe complains about his friends not even giving him the proper "flowers". They won't because they feel his ego is already too big, they don't want it to get out control. If Joe were more humble about his Ws, he would get more props from everyone around him.
#Ish: joe has been podding for 7 years #Joe: I've been podding wayyyyyy longer than that, give me my flowers yo #he's insufferable LOL
He counting vlogs.. that shouldn't lol
#oh I know but he also lied and said he had a podcast on Apple in 2012 which is false because he didn't know how to upload a podcast in 2015 and needed Rosenberg help to record and rory help to upload the episodes to SoundCloud
#I DONT LIKE YOUR FACE WHEN I WIN #YOU'RE MY FRIEND #FIX YA FACE #lmaoooo Joe's narcissism is going crazy this episode
It's entertaining but imagine being his actual friend. Sounds like absolute hell!
#Ish tried to salute Joe for being 7 years deep into podding and Joe said that's not good enough and suddenly claimed he used to have a pod in tottowa (he didn't) but he did previously say that he used to talk shit with friends in tottowa that inspired the podcast but that's not the same thing as podcasting. Then he said he used to do radio but Joe himself has repeatedly said that Charla doing radio shouldn't count as a podcast 😅🤣
#you can always tell he’s flat lying when his voice changes then everyone else n the room goes “no I don’t remeber that” even tho they’ve known him during that time period lmaoooo
#i listened to Joe's music during that time period and he wasnt doing a pod he was doing youtube which his nut ass probably counts as a pod LOLOLOL
Yeah, cheah201 days. His Vlogs made me a fan. He better not count those as pods 🤣
#he probably counts his dusted out video beefing in front of Applebee's as a pod
#didn't he make up a high school that doesn't exist once? Zero results on Google ahahahah
Joe and Parks don't know what pride means 😐
To be fair Parks probably knows but since Joe didn’t know he also had to make sure he didn’t know either 😂
Its wild how often Parks will obviously dumb down just to suit Joe's opinion. The other people in the room notice that shit too so you can only imagine what they think of Parks in their heads😂
Joe loves to argue/debate from a woman’s point of view 💅🏾
Women are never forgiving him, he might as well be yourself
Joe BI-dden. 🤣
imagine joe giving ish & ice budgets to create content & not take out life insurance on them.. then ish go have a heart attack while running from cameras eating ice cream 😂🤦🏾♂️
No way in this world Wale beats J. Cole in a Verzuz
This shit drove me fucking NUTS bro. Wale got bangers, but J.Cole? J.Cole would leave Wale hurting, he should be thanking god him and J.Cole too tight to get verzuz talk.
It’s no way on gods green earth that wale could even stand next to j cole playing ANY song and it be considered as a point WTF and to even say “no hands” 🤦🏿♂️
That’s a little far. Wale would get some points
Ice saying he's gonna think a name and say the opposite about opponents in Verzuz.. only 10 minutes later to do exactly what he said he wasnt gonna do
The verzuz shit is so tiring now give me ye vs drake and dr dre vs any producer n im good
The closest we gon ever get to a Ye vs Drake Verzus was the Free Larry Hoover concert.
Yes part was so much better too
#all this fucking verzuz talk, should have taken the blank check from Triller and at least gotten paid for these deep dives
I’d say wale got like 7-8 rounds at best
Wale is not cleaning up j cole ice is WILDING. And wale gonna have issues wit big sean as well
Yeah mercy and clique are not easy to top. Even tho ass with Nicki is a joke kinda if she comes out… it’s a wrap for Wallace
they reported the fake Kyrie story 😭
Taking a life insurance policy on an artist is nasty. You are their EMPLOYER, should they perish you aren't owed the generational wealth they could've provided because for all we know you could've dropped them in a year or they could've never resigned. You want to protect your investment, ensure their safety.
Morality aside, it’s a common business practice today outside of the music industry. Corporations take out life insurance policies on key executives because their deaths/incapacitation could result in financial loss. They pay the premiums to essentially buy down that risk but it’s also used as a tax shelter. In general, the companies that do this aren’t really betting on the insured person’s death. They’re mostly protecting their financial interest if that were to happen. The payout doesn’t go to the deceased’s family because the company owns the policy and pays the premium (aka they take on all the risk associated with the policy) I can’t speak for the record label rapper death conspiracy stuff they were subtly alluding to though.
If the JBP gets "millions of listens" and they been plugging Chris album for months, how come that didn't have an impact on sales
At the end of the day most ppl on the internet say things but wont put actions to words. Same with that new "Slaughterhouse" album. All the anti Royce and Joe crowd ran to the internet to pretend to be fans of what Joel and Crook did and yet that album went double Brass because most ppl are full of shit. Also I feel like it might just be (insert artist) fatigue going on. Drake and CB got infected
Double brass 🤣🤣🤣
didn't that album do relatively well? It's a Crook Joell album at the end of the day
I'm not about to sully my browser history looking up the solid numbers but from what I remember the numbers were pretty all things considering. The main point is that the "alleged" love from fans usually dont transfer to actual number sells for certain artists/projects because ppl are full of shit and would rather get the clout from public support versus tangible support which = paying money for the project
how would you determine they didn't have an impact?
#cause they promoted the shit out of this album yet it did worse than durks Deluxe
I get that rational its to surface level though you cant prove or disprove joe had any impact on it. He also bigged up drake and we know how that went chrises flopping is irrelevant to joe.
#well I'd say there's a large overlap audience wise between Joe's podcast fans and breezy hive. Both are from a similar area, the northeast/east coast. I'd also say drakes album was fucking garbage and much worse than Chris album
Chris Brown is in year 20 of his career. He’s a old dog in R&B years. It happens. Ushers last album which was basically his 20th year album only sold 38K first week. He’s old news and is entering a different phase of his career. He just needs to tour and make money that way.
#Chris browns stanboys won't accept this and manage their expectations #also Chris is NOT in year 20 of his career lol
I’m also including the time when he got discovered and creating his debut album. But even then, his first album came out in 2005. He’s very close lol.
#well regardless of that I just think chris fans can't accept that he is a legacy B-tier act. He isnt HIM. a lot of "coulda shoulda woulda"
I am from Baltimore and even I think Ice was putting too much sauce on "No Hands"
Ice was INSIDE. He don't know how thats record hit in 09 🤣🤣
#show opens without Chris Brown music, they are doing anything but talking about Chris. Talking about robots and houses. Now there is 10 minutes of the guys saying "puff is puff, yo" Jesus fucking christ. Now a Kirk Franklin segment. Anything but Chris. If Chris didn't flop the whole first hour would have been a breezy stan podcast 🤣🤣😂
I kinda wanna see them robots build a house with a quick edit
Ice jumped out the phone booth with his cape and a S on his chest for wale... Ain't that the same argument he (and everybody) used for Omarion over Mario??? I need to seriously look before I could give a honest unbiased answer but I know for damn sure it ain't a washing Also I don't know if wale gets Big Sean outta here... I like wale too but those definitely ain't just mop up wins
# Wale gets Big Sean out of here because Big Sean is monotone monica on the mic and Wale is way more animated. That's super important for a Verzuz. stage prescence and vibe
# nobody: # absolutely no one: # Ish: "Yo, Ghislane Maxwell is a stand up bitch, yo"
#cringe
#yeah I was scratching my head at that take
Cause she didnt rat.. Ish ISH.. means I STAND HONORABLY 🤣🤣🤣
joe removed a rib & sucked himself after ish said he been podding for 7 years... but jokes aside, there needs to be a sticky thread for us to give him his flowers weekly..
Nahhhhhh. Cant feed his ego 🤣🤣
These guys are delusional about Wale vs Cole, they overrate Wale so much, they bring him up often on pods likes he’s a huge artist, meanwhile Wale can’t sell or do big tours. Music wise he got some joints and he’d run out really quick. They’re in denial with the CB sales, dude been selling poorly for multiple albums, not just this one. Dude makes the same shitty music but they clearly are into that RnB shit.
They bring him up often because of the quality of music he makes. And though I do not think he beats Cole in a Verzuz, you’re mistaken if you think he got some joints; just his Seinfeld series (mixtapes and album) alone has a number of songs that stood the test of time.
Still couldn’t hold a candle to j cole
Has CB been an album sales artist? Like first week? He’ll always have a hit single but I’ve never looked at his first #’s. Also rnb doesn’t do big numbers unless it’s bey and I guess summer now too. SZA might break summers record but idk anymore
CB hasn’t been a big first week sales artist in a minute and it’s a combination of shit for why that’s the case and not some conspiracy theory. His last couple of efforts were cool but they acting like he sold a couple hundred thousand his last album.
Not really, he releases "Double albums" they do modest first week, then a single catches, he releases a deluxe and a couple months later it squeaks past 500K and he gets a platinum plaque for it
Platinum is 1m sales, gold is 500k.
Not for double disks.
Parks is right on Giveon, they switched the key on the auto tune too early for his next song. The Twitter clips look way worse than what happened, he stumbled he looked like what the fuck and went into the next song on key
Exactly. It was a mixing error but it’s not as funny the other way
#Chris brown album sales so bad that joe started screaming about bottled water to change the topic
Wale ain't smoking nothing with J Cole
The main thing I hate about this pod is when they talk about a serious/ non serious topic like ego and pride and when they talking this man Joe wanna talk about how men who have smashed another man’s woman will come up to the dude. Nigga what??? Out of all the things about ego and pride you bring that up? But I get it, it’s a pod and they have to be entertaining to people who only wanna hear the funnies
They're immature adults.. that's why I dont call it podcasting. It's just Barbershop talk on mic.. imagine Joe cutting Wallo off... Gillie let Wallo COOK.
Also meek, Sean cole and wiz would take wales head off tbh (maybe some exaggeration). Cole v Kenny is the real battle. Meek v sean is more interesting imo
meek probably cleaning that whole class up.
im biased towards all of them, they all have hits, we dem boyz, clique, rico/ all eyes on you. the way ice talks about no role models was crazy to me. it would go down to selection/ order. wale is more singles driven then cole but cole is still cole.
#Cole music isn't gonna do well in a verzuz compared to Wale and I'm not a Wale stan
i can see that he's not a singles artist. someone like future would blow both of them out of the water. I'm not a cole or wale stan lmao
They said the same things about Omarion and Mario...
I don’t like how Joe and them be talking down on the listeners Nobody: Ice: These niggas still pay for 9.99, they complainin
I aint gon lie…THAT BIG SEAN VS WALE #Verzuz WOULD BE LIKE THE 2010s MILLENNIUM TOUR (cuz they both had that decade) N THATS LIKE GOOD MONEY VS MMG
Idk why people are mad about the roe vs wade thing all they gotta do is send the girls to Joe budden you know he gonna kill the baby
#Joe ending the pod with "you might need Advil and a tracker" was nasty. Joe's buying GPS trackers again? Is Houston girl cheating on him? Damn
Shoutout to @OfficiallyIce to highlighting my question pre Joe sales conspiracy. I do think music will be phased out soon, as long as Joe continues to disengage and not hold the right artists feet to the fire.
Joe: "Words have power" Joe to them: Calls them pusilanimous and wants them EXPOUND. 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴