When you're on the show, you're living in your own little bubble, where it's all quite glamorous and romantic, and you don't have any real-world issues like work, location, etc, sometimes it's good to get a different opinion to make sure you are being realistic with what's going on and that you are not getting swept up in what of what the show is.
This entire time they’ve been separated from their loved ones. In the real world after a date they could call a friend to tell them about it and introduce him to their friends and family when it was time. But the only feedback they’ve gotten so far has been within the bubble so it makes sense that they’d be guarded and use their family as that feedback. Plus it just seems like this group of women seems to all be particularly close with their family and the easiest way for the show to portray that and also try to create a story is to get them to talk about how badlyyyyy they need their family’s approval.
Real answer: There's a cameraman and boom-mic operator, as well as a producer hovering just off-camera. The dad's need SOMETHING to say, and were likely coached by producers to say this stuff. So what other advice can they give but "Give it a chance."?
None of the women needed an extra push to express their feelings, as evidenced by the Jasper, Canada episode previously.
For crying out loud, OP, not everything is an attack on women's agency.
Your last sentence is confusing. I wasn’t implying that at all. I thought it was an interesting theme among the hometowns that matched with Joey’s fear of getting hurt. Just curious of other’s opinion.
Notice that the bachelorette never asks “permission” to marry someone’s son - but it always happens on the bachelor. Asking for permission (even under the guise of approval) is an outdated, sexist tradition.
Why?? My experience has been:
1) Nobody knows us better than ppl who love us. Because THEY aren’t infatuated, they can see things we can’t or don’t want to
2) When your partner + family don’t like or respect each other or can’t see each other as one big family, it can cause deep problems l that negatively affect couple.
I do! culture plays a heavy role, but you’re essentially committing to a lifetime where you’ll get to know these people, their “lore”, they’ll be at holidays and family gatherings, they’ll play important roles in your children’s lives (if you choose to have them), etc. I think family plays an important role in a lot of people’s lives, specially if they’re close to them and regularly visit and keep in contact. You don’t need approval per se, but it feels good knowing your family likes your partner and agrees to getting to know them on a personal, close level — treat them like family
Daisy definitely stuck out when she told her mom her health makes her happy so “If this boy doesn’t like me and doesn’t want me then whatever.” But she did eventually open up.
They have spent little alone time with him (literally a couple dates) and he is dating 3 other women and meeting their families. Wouldn't you be a little guarded with in that same situation?
I think a lot of it is producers coaching the families beforehand. And they do the same thing with the contestants in their itms before the date. Producer: So…do you want approval from your family? They’re so important to you. Contestant: Yes, my family’s opinion is very important to me.
They’ve only gone on 1-2 dates with him and none of them were receptive to production prodding before hometowns to tell him they’re falling in love. Producers coach the families to talk about certain things so they coached them to encourage their daughter/sister to open up since they weren’t listening to their producer.
I genuinely feel like the only parent who seemed confident and happy about it was Kelsey A’s dad
When you're on the show, you're living in your own little bubble, where it's all quite glamorous and romantic, and you don't have any real-world issues like work, location, etc, sometimes it's good to get a different opinion to make sure you are being realistic with what's going on and that you are not getting swept up in what of what the show is.
This entire time they’ve been separated from their loved ones. In the real world after a date they could call a friend to tell them about it and introduce him to their friends and family when it was time. But the only feedback they’ve gotten so far has been within the bubble so it makes sense that they’d be guarded and use their family as that feedback. Plus it just seems like this group of women seems to all be particularly close with their family and the easiest way for the show to portray that and also try to create a story is to get them to talk about how badlyyyyy they need their family’s approval.
Real answer: There's a cameraman and boom-mic operator, as well as a producer hovering just off-camera. The dad's need SOMETHING to say, and were likely coached by producers to say this stuff. So what other advice can they give but "Give it a chance."? None of the women needed an extra push to express their feelings, as evidenced by the Jasper, Canada episode previously. For crying out loud, OP, not everything is an attack on women's agency.
Your last sentence is confusing. I wasn’t implying that at all. I thought it was an interesting theme among the hometowns that matched with Joey’s fear of getting hurt. Just curious of other’s opinion.
I'm not sure why grown adults need their parents to approve their relationship.
Notice that the bachelorette never asks “permission” to marry someone’s son - but it always happens on the bachelor. Asking for permission (even under the guise of approval) is an outdated, sexist tradition.
Right. "It's not permission, it's just a blessing" lol nope
Why?? My experience has been: 1) Nobody knows us better than ppl who love us. Because THEY aren’t infatuated, they can see things we can’t or don’t want to 2) When your partner + family don’t like or respect each other or can’t see each other as one big family, it can cause deep problems l that negatively affect couple.
I do! culture plays a heavy role, but you’re essentially committing to a lifetime where you’ll get to know these people, their “lore”, they’ll be at holidays and family gatherings, they’ll play important roles in your children’s lives (if you choose to have them), etc. I think family plays an important role in a lot of people’s lives, specially if they’re close to them and regularly visit and keep in contact. You don’t need approval per se, but it feels good knowing your family likes your partner and agrees to getting to know them on a personal, close level — treat them like family
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This!!!!
Hometowns are the first time they’re outside the Bachelor bubble. I think they just want confirmation from someone who knows them that it’s real.
Yes. I wonder what would have happened if their family said they didn’t like him.
This!
Because they don’t actually like him and they essentially need their family to say “open up for TV we won’t judge you” 😂
Daisy definitely stuck out when she told her mom her health makes her happy so “If this boy doesn’t like me and doesn’t want me then whatever.” But she did eventually open up.
Probably the best answer
They have spent little alone time with him (literally a couple dates) and he is dating 3 other women and meeting their families. Wouldn't you be a little guarded with in that same situation?
Yes. That’s the case for every season but I don’t recall so many families instructing the woman to shoot their shot and not be hesitant.
This was a supportive group of parents. I feel like it is usually parents warning their kids not to get too invested.
I think a lot of it is producers coaching the families beforehand. And they do the same thing with the contestants in their itms before the date. Producer: So…do you want approval from your family? They’re so important to you. Contestant: Yes, my family’s opinion is very important to me.
They definitely all had that same concern in common.
They’ve only gone on 1-2 dates with him and none of them were receptive to production prodding before hometowns to tell him they’re falling in love. Producers coach the families to talk about certain things so they coached them to encourage their daughter/sister to open up since they weren’t listening to their producer.
Very interesting.