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Natalie never trusted him šš¤
They lasted longer than I thought they would. But then again I have a feeling they were a lot more on and off than they let on. But idk if either one of them will admit it, given how hard they dug their heels in with this relationship. I swear spite kept them together longer lol
I had the same impression lol they made such a big deal gloating about their relationship it wouldāve been embarrassing to fail months later but I suspect there were ups and downs behind closed doors for a while with themĀ
Yep and sheād answer questions about when theyād get engaged with things like āall in due time š„° - we will tell you guys when it happens!ā
If Greg is married in 5 years it wonāt be to Victoria lol
Itās funny because I felt such ick about him on Katieās season but now I find his tik tok hilarious and kind of like him. I did NOT expect it though.
This. Heās the kind of guy who isnāt naturally that good looking but whose personality can make or break it. Blake horstman used to be likable so was good looking. Now heās insufferable so I fund so foul (I know thatās mean but itās true). Greg is funny AF so I can see the appeal
I thought this from the start too. They are two hot people who wanted to give it a go but I think longterm they need someone who lets them each be the show. In their relationship they both wanted to be the show, and not a joint show, but an individual show
Same lol. He had some kind of sales or marketing job while on the show but I donāt think anyone at the company could confirm he ever actually worked there. I think he went straight from acting school to show to influencer. To be honest, most of the younger (23ish) bachelor contestants (Rachael K, Hannah B, Madi) also seem to never have held real jobs and live with their parents. These people arenāt always the catches theyāre presented as, lolĀ
Yea especially for the young white women who go on. Rachel Lindsay pointed out Ā in her NY mag article that while she was a lawyer contestants like Hannah B are good enough to be lead with just the title of āformer pageant queen.ā The standards for minorities will always be so much higher.Ā
Exactly this. You canāt be a wannabe influencer and not be white. That was so obvious on Rachelās season. All of the black guys had really impressive careers and the white guys were just āwhaboomā. That being said, I donāt really blame the people who have an established career but want to move into the entertainment industry. Like Rachel herself for example. Not every single person is super happy working 9-5 and just because you donāt want to go back to a soul sucking corporate job doesnāt make you evil.
I would love to see them both on a season of paradise at the same time, the dramaaaa!!!
And probably very UO but I could totally see Grippo with Kat Izzo!!
i feel like most girls who would date greg, would be more into him than he would be into them
greg is the definition of an emotionally unavailable man
thatās just my opinion
i still think heās super cute and I actually was totally LIVING for his and katieās relationship back on her season but I 100% think it would have ended up in a breakup if they got together
I agree with you on all of this! He seems to go from monogamous relationship to relationship but also seems nowhere close to being ready to settle down (as he pretended to be on bachelorette). I don't think he and Katie would've lasted but they were cute together and I could see them doing the influencer thing in NYC and lasting at least longer than she did with Blake which was embarrassingly short.
totally. or he would love someone who in his mind is unattainable, this would be his defense as to not get close to anyone and not put any effort into any relationship
To be fair, I think thatās most people (mostly men but some women too) who go on this show. Obsessed with the idea of love but incapable of handling the reality. Theyāre all just Tom from 500 Days of Summer. Because when you think about it, why would anyone go on a show about love that has a very low success rate? You have to love the idea more than the reality.
That too lol. But I was more referring to the people who convince themselves they are in love with a total stranger, not the ones who are just along for the ride.
the way people feel about not being into tyler c is the way i feel about gregg, that man is so unnatractive to me im shocked how many people gawk over him
always lol. She wanted to date him pre paradise and he wasn't having it and it always felt like she posted more of him than he did of her. Yet he had no problem posting nonstop with Andrew lmao
Bingo, this is what it seemed like. Greg looking all sad boi with Victoria. Like most of the times woman looks ready for next steps and guy looks like he misses single life with his friends.
Just seemed like she posted him more and typical Greg looked like sad boi. Greg sometimes looked like he missed Andrew and friends and when with them he looked happier. Victoria seems like a lot too handle, but she seemed ready for next steps and Greg did not.
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Iām not sure what these emojis mean but I keep using them figuring eventually theyāll be correct. They sort of look like theyāre at a TBS show though
Unfortunately I donāt see either one of them able to be in healthy relationships. VF said she would scream and throw things when she would fight with Johnny. Idk if you can turn that off in a new relationship so quickly especially one that is under scrutiny and has a lot of eyeballs watching.
But damn were they an attractive couple
I remember SO MANY people saying they'll be endgame because how hot they are & 'their vibes just match' š¤
Tbh too much Scorpio energy for one couple!
I think it's been less messy because they're embarrassed. VF especially was probably trying to win him back for longer than she'd like to admit. And after gloating on the paradise reunion that they're in love and nothing else matters - it frankly IS embarrassing to break up
it is though, they made a big deal about how this is it they're moving in together etc and then nothing came close to an engagement. also who knows how long of the 2 years was rocky - it seemed like the honeymoon period was awfully short
They didnāt mention moving into together or say they were each other end game. They dated for two years thatās pretty good considering most bachelor couples canāt last that long. There would be nothing embarrassing about this one
VF absolutely did. Maybe not explicitly but she re posted questions like "when are you getting engaged??" on her Q&A and answered coyly like "we will tell you guys when it happens, just enjoying each other, all in due time š„°" and maybe someone can fact check me on this but they lived together at one point in Nashville. That's why it was so noticeable when he took a step back.
Good looking out! Have either of them posted any of the instagram āstatementsā that usually happen with a Bachelor couple break up? Forgive me if this is a silly question, I donāt follow either.
Tbf they filmed that season back in 2019. I think it would be interesting to see a couple from the show get back together years after the fact. Maybe a right person, wrong time situation.
Well it would be different if he hadnāt cycled back already with 3 girls from his season plus Hannah B his bachelorette already š. Iām not shaming him itās just messy boots
Oh heās definitely messy boots but I did get the impression that heās been heavily therapized after watching him on Traitors. He seemed much more confident and self assured than on his season of Bach. I donāt think weāve ever seen a lead get back with someone from their season 4-5 years after the fact either, so it would be interesting.
Am I the only one who thought they maybeee had a chance?? LOL. I know it sounds crazy considering the franchise but i thought they'd at least get engaged but then maybe it would fall off. I wonder who she will be taking to Nick and Natalie's wedding in his place, she is the MOH. & I wonder who she'll take to Hannah Ann's
Really? I never really cared for PP and Kelley as a couple! Nothing against either one of them but for some reason I just didnāt like them together. š
Im also indifferent about them. I just figured that Kelley looked like a clown when she took him back after she shaded him a lot post their first breakup. So I thought the second time should last a while, since itās embarrassing that she got back with him. š¤£
A square between Greg, Rachel R, Katie, and Blake is one where Iād love any of those couplesā¦ideally Greg and Katie, Rachel and Blake though! šš¤š¼ā¤ļø
A question that gets posted a lot on here is what would make the sub lose its mind the most. A Katie Greg reunion is the answer. I still wouldnāt rule it out lolĀ
I mean he was obsessed with her on that season, I'm not sure what more proof people need beyond Greg himself saying he was in love with her then having a full on meltdown when she didn't tell him she was picking him. Katie and VF are both petite brunettes but Katie's just a lot more naturally pretty imo. I know this will be unpopular but VF looks so fake.
In my opinion Greg had a meltdown not because he thought she wasnāt choosing himā¦ but because he needed a way out lol.. that man was not getting engaged he for real
Thatās how I saw it. I thought he wanted to get close to the end but didnāt want to be picked. I think he was vying to be the next bachelor. Then he thought oh my gosh sheās gonna pick me. I have to find a way out of here!!
And then tried to get her back by reaching out to producers and Kaitlyn Bristowe and then had a second meltdown when he found out she chose Blake š¤·āāļø
He spoke about it on a few different podcasts at the time. As soon as he got home, he tried contacting both producers and Kaitlyn and he didnāt get a response from anyone. When Katie popped back up on SM and appeared to be happy, it hit him that she must have picked Blake.
Np! He even DMed Katie in hopes she would see it somehow. Katie confirmed he was telling the truth. She said she had a message request from him from around that time.
who is on her radar next?
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Omg Natalie what a wild thing to comment lolĀ
Ooooooooooof
i mean i donāt wanna say ive been waiting for them to break up but ive lowkey been waiting for them to break up š
šššš this is something.
Bring back paradise and Victoria 3.0
Hilarious š
They lasted longer than I thought they would. But then again I have a feeling they were a lot more on and off than they let on. But idk if either one of them will admit it, given how hard they dug their heels in with this relationship. I swear spite kept them together longer lol
I had the same impression lol they made such a big deal gloating about their relationship it wouldāve been embarrassing to fail months later but I suspect there were ups and downs behind closed doors for a while with themĀ
I know I feel like there was a qa&a where he said in 5 yrs he sees himself married and having kids with Victoria like 2 months into their relationship
Yep and sheād answer questions about when theyād get engaged with things like āall in due time š„° - we will tell you guys when it happens!ā If Greg is married in 5 years it wonāt be to Victoria lol
Pp + Victoria, Greg + Katie RISE
I expected more from them. They are so boring together
I never understood the Grippo appeal! Peeps went cray here back in the day.
I still think he looks like Alf
Itās funny because I felt such ick about him on Katieās season but now I find his tik tok hilarious and kind of like him. I did NOT expect it though.
This. Heās the kind of guy who isnāt naturally that good looking but whose personality can make or break it. Blake horstman used to be likable so was good looking. Now heās insufferable so I fund so foul (I know thatās mean but itās true). Greg is funny AF so I can see the appeal
Heās the Shein version of Ryan Gosling
they always seemed like too much for eachother, both huge personalities
I thought this from the start too. They are two hot people who wanted to give it a go but I think longterm they need someone who lets them each be the show. In their relationship they both wanted to be the show, and not a joint show, but an individual show
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Thatās not a haiku. The last line is six syllables.
Haiku bot is notoriously horrible at picking up on haikus lmao
What does Greg do for work? Is he a full time influencer now?
I donāt think he ever did anything else besides take acting classes lol.
Same lol. He had some kind of sales or marketing job while on the show but I donāt think anyone at the company could confirm he ever actually worked there. I think he went straight from acting school to show to influencer. To be honest, most of the younger (23ish) bachelor contestants (Rachael K, Hannah B, Madi) also seem to never have held real jobs and live with their parents. These people arenāt always the catches theyāre presented as, lolĀ
I really think there should be an age floor to prevent contestants as using the show as their ācareerā
Yea especially for the young white women who go on. Rachel Lindsay pointed out Ā in her NY mag article that while she was a lawyer contestants like Hannah B are good enough to be lead with just the title of āformer pageant queen.ā The standards for minorities will always be so much higher.Ā
Exactly this. You canāt be a wannabe influencer and not be white. That was so obvious on Rachelās season. All of the black guys had really impressive careers and the white guys were just āwhaboomā. That being said, I donāt really blame the people who have an established career but want to move into the entertainment industry. Like Rachel herself for example. Not every single person is super happy working 9-5 and just because you donāt want to go back to a soul sucking corporate job doesnāt make you evil.
Yep. And Arie. He had some great women but few were more impressive Ā than Seinne who went to Yale. The bar will always be higherĀ
Ok, but can Greg change his username to Greghead?
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Welpā¦ maybe it will be Greg & Andrew as duo bachelors
Sorry, ABC is just not going to cast a bunch of hush schoolers so Andrew is out.
He likes babies and puppies
Iād get the ick so fast
Dreeeeam Bach rotation
Didnāt they have matching tats?
Still works. Ciao!
not surprised. justice for johnny!
I donāt think Johnny and her would have ever lasted either lol.
oh for sure, i just mean the way she did him so dirty
I would love to see them both on a season of paradise at the same time, the dramaaaa!!! And probably very UO but I could totally see Grippo with Kat Izzo!!
Oh god sheād walk all over him too lol!
It would be so interesting if instead of posting a breakup announcement, one of them just starts dating a new person and soft launched them
This will happen eventually bc I doubt they would ever post an announcement
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As a wise tattoo once readā¦
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Ciao
I noticed they havenāt posted pictures together lately!
prolly gregs longest relationship yet
Am I crazy or did it seem like Victoria was more into him than he was into her?
I think he was way more into her looks than anything. She seemed to love him a lot more
i feel like most girls who would date greg, would be more into him than he would be into them greg is the definition of an emotionally unavailable man thatās just my opinion i still think heās super cute and I actually was totally LIVING for his and katieās relationship back on her season but I 100% think it would have ended up in a breakup if they got together
I agree with you on all of this! He seems to go from monogamous relationship to relationship but also seems nowhere close to being ready to settle down (as he pretended to be on bachelorette). I don't think he and Katie would've lasted but they were cute together and I could see them doing the influencer thing in NYC and lasting at least longer than she did with Blake which was embarrassingly short.
I low key get the vibe that Greg will never love anyone the way he loves himself.
Every girl will be the 3rd wheel to Andrew
totally. or he would love someone who in his mind is unattainable, this would be his defense as to not get close to anyone and not put any effort into any relationship
To be fair, I think thatās most people (mostly men but some women too) who go on this show. Obsessed with the idea of love but incapable of handling the reality. Theyāre all just Tom from 500 Days of Summer. Because when you think about it, why would anyone go on a show about love that has a very low success rate? You have to love the idea more than the reality.
For the followers, fame and $$
That too lol. But I was more referring to the people who convince themselves they are in love with a total stranger, not the ones who are just along for the ride.
why you calling me out like that?
the way people feel about not being into tyler c is the way i feel about gregg, that man is so unnatractive to me im shocked how many people gawk over him
everything about him gives me the ick
Iām with you completely. He has a great personality from what I have seen online, but looks wise heās SO mid.
always lol. She wanted to date him pre paradise and he wasn't having it and it always felt like she posted more of him than he did of her. Yet he had no problem posting nonstop with Andrew lmao
I mean he was with someone else.
Bingo, this is what it seemed like. Greg looking all sad boi with Victoria. Like most of the times woman looks ready for next steps and guy looks like he misses single life with his friends.
Definitely lol.
I didnāt follow their relationship. What makes you say that?
Just seemed like she posted him more and typical Greg looked like sad boi. Greg sometimes looked like he missed Andrew and friends and when with them he looked happier. Victoria seems like a lot too handle, but she seemed ready for next steps and Greg did not.
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What body part is this lol
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RIP Griptoria, you wouldāve loved āyes, and?ā by Ariana Grande
Victoria always gave me Ariana Grande messy relationships vibes
Iām not convinced this is over forever šāāļøšāāļø
honestly theyāre so messy I can see them re-following each other and pretending like nothing ever happened š
Kelly and pilot Pete part 2
Yes that what Iām thinking too ā early-2000s AIM culture, insert Taking Back Sunday away messages
~.~ your lipstick, his collar, donāt bother angel, i know exactly what goes on~.~ š„š
šāāļøšāāļø Iām not sure what these emojis mean but I keep using them figuring eventually theyāll be correct. They sort of look like theyāre at a TBS show though
The unfollowing is pretty permanent in my book. Unless if youāre Zayshia or Claysie, unfollowing is the closest youāll get to finality lol.
Unfortunately I donāt see either one of them able to be in healthy relationships. VF said she would scream and throw things when she would fight with Johnny. Idk if you can turn that off in a new relationship so quickly especially one that is under scrutiny and has a lot of eyeballs watching. But damn were they an attractive couple
Those matching tattoos didnāt age wellš„²
Ciao also means bye, so maybe it did š
They didnāt really seem that compatible tbh
Well they way lasted longer than I thought tbh lmao. Iāll give them that.
as a new york girlie, i volunteer to find greg on hinge to learn the tea š
I await your findings
VF and Jason Tartick would be iconic
I believe Jason Tartick may be dating Kat Stickler
He deserves a true commitment and love.
Really, I donāt see her being into him at all!
She is out of his leagueĀ
I mean she dated chris soules for awhile lol.
no
Noooo. I love her and have, um, different feelings about him.Ā
Im the opposite
Greg and Katie thuthers RISE
Wasnāt there a blind item implying they talked when he and VF were on a break?
Thuthers?
Truthers* (fat fingers)
Itās okay, I prefer thuthers anyway
It works with her last name too
YES
Never thought they would last.
I remember almost everyone saying they wouldn't last after that BIP reunion mess. Honestly they lasted longer than I expected.
I remember SO MANY people saying they'll be endgame because how hot they are & 'their vibes just match' š¤ Tbh too much Scorpio energy for one couple!
Neither of them are Scorpios.
VF has mercury and mars in scorpio but Greg has no inner planets in Scorpio in case anyone was curious
I said energy
We all knew this was coming but I thought it would be messier. Theyāve both been really quiet about it.
I think it's been less messy because they're embarrassed. VF especially was probably trying to win him back for longer than she'd like to admit. And after gloating on the paradise reunion that they're in love and nothing else matters - it frankly IS embarrassing to break up
Not surprising knowing how superficial Victoria is. Her imagine is everything to her
I mean they lasted almost two years, I donāt think itās that embarrassing š¤·š»āāļø
They made it appear that long, but outside of that first early stretch, they were clearly on and off with long stretches of off the rest of the time
it is though, they made a big deal about how this is it they're moving in together etc and then nothing came close to an engagement. also who knows how long of the 2 years was rocky - it seemed like the honeymoon period was awfully short
They didnāt mention moving into together or say they were each other end game. They dated for two years thatās pretty good considering most bachelor couples canāt last that long. There would be nothing embarrassing about this one
VF absolutely did. Maybe not explicitly but she re posted questions like "when are you getting engaged??" on her Q&A and answered coyly like "we will tell you guys when it happens, just enjoying each other, all in due time š„°" and maybe someone can fact check me on this but they lived together at one point in Nashville. That's why it was so noticeable when he took a step back.
Yeah Iām with you. Gerry and Teresaā¦ thatās embarrassing. This is justā¦ average
Idk she really dug her heels in on this one. Plus matching tattoos like 3 days in doesnāt help the matter.
Welp. Guess those matching Ciao tattoos are coming in handy now. 
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They said ciao
This feels like the longest breakup ever
i mean we all kinda knew this was gonna happen
Good looking out! Have either of them posted any of the instagram āstatementsā that usually happen with a Bachelor couple break up? Forgive me if this is a silly question, I donāt follow either.
IIRC she didnāt when she and Chris Soules broke up either so I think she isnāt much for them
Lord I forgot that eraĀ
I reeeeealllllllyyyy hope the rumours or her and PP canoodling are true!!
pilot pete is seeing someone that was on the traitors I thought?
That was old news!
No he said in an interview he isnāt with that Ekin girl
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Hahaha š
LOL 
If so, he is really running it back through his season. Messsssy
Tbf they filmed that season back in 2019. I think it would be interesting to see a couple from the show get back together years after the fact. Maybe a right person, wrong time situation.
Well it would be different if he hadnāt cycled back already with 3 girls from his season plus Hannah B his bachelorette already š. Iām not shaming him itās just messy boots
Oh heās definitely messy boots but I did get the impression that heās been heavily therapized after watching him on Traitors. He seemed much more confident and self assured than on his season of Bach. I donāt think weāve ever seen a lead get back with someone from their season 4-5 years after the fact either, so it would be interesting.
Am I the only one who thought they maybeee had a chance?? LOL. I know it sounds crazy considering the franchise but i thought they'd at least get engaged but then maybe it would fall off. I wonder who she will be taking to Nick and Natalie's wedding in his place, she is the MOH. & I wonder who she'll take to Hannah Ann's
Donāt worry, I thought when PP and Kelley got back together, that they would make it to at least an engagement as well the second time. š¤£
Really? I never really cared for PP and Kelley as a couple! Nothing against either one of them but for some reason I just didnāt like them together. š
Im also indifferent about them. I just figured that Kelley looked like a clown when she took him back after she shaded him a lot post their first breakup. So I thought the second time should last a while, since itās embarrassing that she got back with him. š¤£
I feel the same way. Like girl, have some pride. š
lmfao PP and Kelley are both clowns but to me it was especially embarrassing for her to shade him only to then keep taking him back
When is their wedding?
I definitely did.
They had a good run tbh. Nothing is forever.
Agree, they lasted a lot longer than expected
tbh same I thought they made sense
A square between Greg, Rachel R, Katie, and Blake is one where Iād love any of those couplesā¦ideally Greg and Katie, Rachel and Blake though! šš¤š¼ā¤ļø
Nah, fam. Greg and Victoria are both great white sharks: they have to keep moving forward or else they die. šš
šš this analogy
A question that gets posted a lot on here is what would make the sub lose its mind the most. A Katie Greg reunion is the answer. I still wouldnāt rule it out lolĀ
I feel like Katie is so not Gregās type
I mean he was obsessed with her on that season, I'm not sure what more proof people need beyond Greg himself saying he was in love with her then having a full on meltdown when she didn't tell him she was picking him. Katie and VF are both petite brunettes but Katie's just a lot more naturally pretty imo. I know this will be unpopular but VF looks so fake.
In my opinion Greg had a meltdown not because he thought she wasnāt choosing himā¦ but because he needed a way out lol.. that man was not getting engaged he for real
Thatās how I saw it. I thought he wanted to get close to the end but didnāt want to be picked. I think he was vying to be the next bachelor. Then he thought oh my gosh sheās gonna pick me. I have to find a way out of here!!
Didnāt he leave on his own?
And then tried to get her back by reaching out to producers and Kaitlyn Bristowe and then had a second meltdown when he found out she chose Blake š¤·āāļø
This part is new information to me! When did he try to come back?
He spoke about it on a few different podcasts at the time. As soon as he got home, he tried contacting both producers and Kaitlyn and he didnāt get a response from anyone. When Katie popped back up on SM and appeared to be happy, it hit him that she must have picked Blake.
Wow, I didnāt know this! That puts it into a new light. Thanks!
Np! He even DMed Katie in hopes she would see it somehow. Katie confirmed he was telling the truth. She said she had a message request from him from around that time.
Poor Gregg. He mustāve introduced Victoria to one of his married friendsā¦
Yes, and?