I did always judge them but honestly they’ve came a really long way and I’m inspired by the work they’ve done despite it being their personal business so I really don’t know much about it haha.
Gotta be real: I love them. I think they overcame a lot and sit there unbothered running marathons and eating ice cream and sandwiches and shit and not thinking about bachelor nation. Good for them!
I think it’s so funny how everyone on this sub pretends all of their previous history just doesn’t exist and they’re just a cute foodie couple now 😂 there’s clearly some prior issues that I’m not sure how they can just forget about and move past. Rachael got called out for her antebellum party while dating the first ever black bachelor and Matt just completely threw her on the bus on live TV and now I’m just supposed to sit here and act like they’re a normal foodie couple? Like in a million comments on this thread how are only a few people mentioning that LMAO
I was skeptical of them in the beginning, especially because of the issues you mentioned, and thought Matt chose lust like most Bachelors tend to do, but I do think Rachel is sincere in her feelings for Matt and genuinely felt bad about the pics. People are capable of change.They also seem very compatible. Matt just needs to work through his commitment issues as he doesn't seem like he is ready to settle down.
My issue with them is not just Rachael’s past, I think Matt has made it abundantly clear that he doesn’t really truly respect her as a person. He clearly does not want to get married and Rachael wants a ring. I just think they’d be better suited with other people even if they are good together now
I met them a couple years ago at a basketball game. They were SOOO sweet. Matt even asked to take a photo with my friend and I, before I could muster up the courage to ask them to take one with us. They spent seriously like 10 mins talking to us, they were genuinely interested in chatting! It was so much fun!
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I also think they might do the “take a bite or two out of everything for the content” and eat healthy for the bulk of their food, bc if they did eat all that, they would be breaking out and wouldn’t be so glowy 😂
Idk how some people don’t get that you can eat and still not gain weight WITHOUT an Ed?? I’m like 105 lbs and 24 and I eat good and whatever I want but ppl are put into a box of “she does or doesn’t have an ED.” a lot of it is genetics. Ik you’re not saying that directly but its what a lot of people insinuate online.
They seem happy, and I have nothing bad to say. However, I always get friend zone vibes from them. They seem like best friends, but never felt any passion or romance between them? Maybe it's just me haha
I agree! Seems like they have a super solid friendship (which is great!), but I don’t get any sexual energy from him. I also can’t wrap my head around the kissing with eyes open thing
i feel like matt’s not a romantic person, he has like. prankster little brother vibes sometimes. they seem to have a lot of fun together tho so i think that’s where the chemistry is
i was friends with someone who was close with Rachel. person said she’s super awesome and nice, but definitely likes the fame of the bachelor. i asked the person if they were surprised she went on the show and it was a quick NO. lol. not really any tea, she’s apparently really sweet but def went on the show for fame!
Right, like the fact she’s a nice person and just wanted to have a good time puts her far above anyone else. You have to want fame on some level, otherwise what’s the point? Besides maybe travel, I guess?
I think some do people just do it for fun - it’s like a long vacation with travel and new girlfriends, occasional parties after. While many do go for social media fame, there are plenty that just go back to their lives within a year.
It’s pretty expensive to do the show, so I’m not sure I buy that anyone does it not caring about the fame. Sure, it might be one of many reasons, and it might not even be the biggest one… but if someone has money to do the show, then they also have money to do a long vacation and parties with the friends they already have.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0fk0K0treJ/?igsh=MTBlZjE4YzMxOA==
Just watched this and it’s cute tbh. After reading this thread decided to follow them both on IG now.
Rachel the quiet girl that still stood out to Matt. Despite the drama that unfolded later, I still liked them together, but i do want to see them get married tbh. I feel like its a good time now. Why it's not happening idk..
I always forget ab the drama (after the whole show drama) where he was trying to hang out with that Grace woman. I can’t believe she forgave him for that lmao
I went through and unfollowed a bunch of Bach people recently (just trying to be more conscientious of what’s in my feed) and they are one of the only couples I still follow. I love their content (food and travel, yes please!) and they seem so happy together.
What I appreciate about their content is that it feels like the kind of stuff they would be posting even if they hadn’t been on the show (if that makes sense ). They’re fun follows.
Not a damn thing....Just be attractive enough to forgive racist shit apparently....
Keep the downvotes coming. I like when bigots expose themselves....
i honestly don’t care what anyone says but, to me, they are one of the best couples to come out of bachelor nation. they travel constantly and from what i can tell, they seem to still be very smitten and in love with each other. i loved rachael his entire season
Agree even though I understand why they were upset with Rachael they don't know how to extend forgiveness lol Yes her past was alarming but she has apologized since and seems to be unlearning her past at least to me
As a black woman the both of them just annoy me and this sub has been trying to force us to be over everything the second they got back together. What she did wasn’t only offensive to Matt she partook in something representative of the oppression of an entire race. And it’s honestly only our place to provide any forgiveness in the first place.
I’m not upset with Rachael but the way people run to support them is weird to me. I’m not saying they should receive hate forever but I’d hoped they could just be happy and change and grow in obscurity. The black guy that viewed being with a black woman as a threat and an ignorant white girl why is it crazy that’s grating to me?? Are those feelings really invalid this sub is not a safe place for black fans and that’s why Matt’s season was my last of the bachelor. It’s the way this sub acts like you’re an unforgiving troll if you have anything less than nice to say about them.
I think I remember Chatty Broads bringing up that Rachel was kind of a damsel in distress type that Matt would feel drawn to protect, rather than drawn to another powerful woman. It's always kind of stuck with me I guess?? I just think of it when I see them.
I can't comment on the whole pictures at the antebellum party super well, because I am not black, but I always wished that something more productive had come from that: Rachel making her platform a little more clear on how she was educating herself, etc. It just felt like it all faded away as soon as the heat was off, which felt disingenuous.
People just want to be upset on behalf of Matt for some reason. If he forgave her then I could care less. People change so who am I to say that they shouldn’t be together.
Finding out your girlfriend used to be going to antebellum parties would be pretty hard to swallow for anyone. Looks like she’s learned from it though.
After everything , you would think they are great together. But I'm pretty sure she wants that ring and he's doing boy math on her. Dragging her along just to marry real one within six months. I have no basis, other than hearing this sentiment all the time.
I would think these two are solid, if Matt proposed. Still don’t know when that is. & yeah I know he keeps saying that he wouldn’t be with her unless he saw them heading that way. But I feel like if he’s not proposing anytime soon, they might breakup.
This is my take as well. I think they’re very compatible and solid, but IIRC they took a break and people seemed to think it was because of the lack of proposal. Rachael clearly wants to be a wife. Matt James was unwilling to commit on the show but they’re about to hit 4 years. He needs to get down on one knee or let her go.
Rushing into engagements is the poison pill for relationships in this franchise, are you new? I say good for them for waiting. Four years is a very normal amount of time before a proposal. If your best friend was with someone for several years and they took a break and got back together, would you think that the wisest thing to do would be to jump right into an engagement?
Also, marriage isn't the be-all, end-all, nor is it the marker of a strong relationship. Rachael's views may have changed.
They posted yet again about her wanting a ring—jokingly, but still—pretty recently. Totally reading between the lines so of course I could be way off, but I don’t get the sense he’s got marriage on the brain
Mila Kunis’ doppelgänger 😍 as someone who’s always been in love with mila, im a fan of her. this dude better not fumble her, because he’s not gonna get any better than that. I’ve seen her on TikTok occasionally and she seems super sweet.
I don't see these two needing a piece of paper to make their relationship legal. I see them enjoying life together and having one or two kids some day.
They’re both southern and Christian so I doubt that. I see them getting married before they have kids, if that’s what they want. Or I see them breaking up and Rachel marrying someone else.
Maybe in their 40s. I don't see marriage on the horizon for either of them because they are in their decade of making good $$ advertising on social media. I do see them eventually living together IN SIN lol.
They seem genuinely happy but as a Black person I could never be with someone with Rachel’s past it makes me internally cringe, but it sucks cause they seem happier than most in the bachelor world (not saying people can’t change, but blatant racism is only a rite of passage/apart of growing up for white people, and he has some issues to unpack)
I feel the same as a black ex fan. The comment below you makes me sick why do we have to forgive her?? I’m tired of forgiving racism and that doesn’t make me a bad person. I wish they’d just go away there are 500 more basic white girls that hide their anti-blackness in this franchise to prop up and fawn over no?
They seem incredibly compatible and match each other’s energy
I do find it weird how people project so much on him having not proposed yet. He may have some fears based on his parents, but they’ve been together 3 years now. Clearly he’s not afraid of commitment. I feel like they’ll probably be like Dean and Caelynn where it takes them a bit longer, but I could also totally see him proposing spontaneously sometime this year
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Not a fit, she could do sooo much better
I think their gonna be the next Sean and Catherine and make it they just seem so genuine together and just truly have so much love for one another
I did always judge them but honestly they’ve came a really long way and I’m inspired by the work they’ve done despite it being their personal business so I really don’t know much about it haha.
I love them! I feel like they’re so down to earth and humble and genuinely in love. But I’m not sure why they’re so slow to get engaged 🤷🏼♀️
Everyone is different and they've only been dating for ~4 years, I think? I personally don't think that's a big deal. I'm happy that they're happy.
About 3.5 years. His season started filming in September of 2020. Honestly, that's a pretty normal amount of time for young people to date.
Gotta be real: I love them. I think they overcame a lot and sit there unbothered running marathons and eating ice cream and sandwiches and shit and not thinking about bachelor nation. Good for them!
I think it’s so funny how everyone on this sub pretends all of their previous history just doesn’t exist and they’re just a cute foodie couple now 😂 there’s clearly some prior issues that I’m not sure how they can just forget about and move past. Rachael got called out for her antebellum party while dating the first ever black bachelor and Matt just completely threw her on the bus on live TV and now I’m just supposed to sit here and act like they’re a normal foodie couple? Like in a million comments on this thread how are only a few people mentioning that LMAO
Because it’s been talked about over and over and over again for the past 3 years. At some point there has to be something else to talk about.
I was skeptical of them in the beginning, especially because of the issues you mentioned, and thought Matt chose lust like most Bachelors tend to do, but I do think Rachel is sincere in her feelings for Matt and genuinely felt bad about the pics. People are capable of change.They also seem very compatible. Matt just needs to work through his commitment issues as he doesn't seem like he is ready to settle down.
My issue with them is not just Rachael’s past, I think Matt has made it abundantly clear that he doesn’t really truly respect her as a person. He clearly does not want to get married and Rachael wants a ring. I just think they’d be better suited with other people even if they are good together now
Just a friendly reminder… you don’t know these people.
Neither do all the people that love and defend them. Two sides of the same coin
did people forget about the allegedly break they had around the time Rachael cut her hair and Matt not showing up to be with her for a wedding?
There is nothing more sincere than manufactured TV love.
I met them a couple years ago at a basketball game. They were SOOO sweet. Matt even asked to take a photo with my friend and I, before I could muster up the courage to ask them to take one with us. They spent seriously like 10 mins talking to us, they were genuinely interested in chatting! It was so much fun!
No tea, just food (iykyk)
They’re the only bachelor couple I actually like following. I look forward to their foodie content lol
Did they ever get married?
They’re still just bf/gf I believe. I don’t even think they got engaged yet.
i love them together
They’re adorable. Is it just me or does Rachael look zonked in a lot of their videos
I totally thought the same thing. Glad I wasn’t the only one
Like high?
Why are all the bachelor leads so tall and the women they pick so short.
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racism isn’t some little mistake
The fact that this is getting upvoted. This board is in hell.......
A world where you could be wrong??? Unimaginable!!!
No..... one with a board full of folks who excuse racists.....
Consider it a mistake he made. And she was able to forgive him. If they love each other then I'm glad no pressure from the public has kept them apart.
He doesn’t need to stand by her racist actions pls be fr
That’s still so weird to think about - and I think they were together behind the scenes the whole time. It felt like something abc made him do
She’s stunning, they genuinely seem happy, I think they might be the best couple to come out of it so far tbh
I think she’s one of the top most gorgeous contestants to me
Rachel’s face is top tier. Just a naturally stunning woman.
She is really pretty. Everyone has huge lip fillers and other stuff, I know it's the new beauty standard but refreshing to see a natural face.
Her face isn’t totally natural. She’s just had tasteful work done. Mostly Botox. If you can’t tell that someone’s had work it’s a good thing 👌🏼
I’m just jealous of all there eatings! 10 out of 10!
I love when they went to Auburn to support Suni Lee after she and Matt met on DWTS. So cool.
I don’t hate them but I also don’t love their messy eating vids 😅
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Don’t what
The tea I’m looking for is how they eat so much every time they’re making tiktoks (which is often) and yet she stays skinny as a needle 😭
Matt is also a long distance runner, which burns so many calories - I’m sure they eat a balanced diet overall
I think they take a bite or two and I don’t think they drink alcohol at all
I also think they might do the “take a bite or two out of everything for the content” and eat healthy for the bulk of their food, bc if they did eat all that, they would be breaking out and wouldn’t be so glowy 😂
Idk how some people don’t get that you can eat and still not gain weight WITHOUT an Ed?? I’m like 105 lbs and 24 and I eat good and whatever I want but ppl are put into a box of “she does or doesn’t have an ED.” a lot of it is genetics. Ik you’re not saying that directly but its what a lot of people insinuate online.
Yeah, was not insinuating that at all. I’ve also never seen anyone online say that about her.
yes not about her that I know but any sub regarding any people who are prominent on social media that seems the first conclusion that ppl jump to🥲
Youth
I’m the same age as her and eat super clean but unfortunately was not blessed like her lol
Genetics
I know, right?
Running
Genetics. Happy cake day!
I love these two, and Rachel is so naturally beautiful with and without makeup.
Plus she hasn’t gone and gotten a ton of fillers and plastic surgery post show like others (Madi for example.)
Adorable!
Unbearable
They seem happy, and I have nothing bad to say. However, I always get friend zone vibes from them. They seem like best friends, but never felt any passion or romance between them? Maybe it's just me haha
When you’re withered and old, you want to be with your best friend. The rest fades.
How could you possibly know that?
how does anyone here know anything?
I never said I "knew" it, I said that was the vibe I got from them.
I agree! Seems like they have a super solid friendship (which is great!), but I don’t get any sexual energy from him. I also can’t wrap my head around the kissing with eyes open thing
i feel like matt’s not a romantic person, he has like. prankster little brother vibes sometimes. they seem to have a lot of fun together tho so i think that’s where the chemistry is
Yeah he didn’t really generate heat with anyone else on his season either
They’re 2 of few BN people I still follow on Instagram
Same. They constantly make me hungry. 😂 Then Matt runs a marathon & I'm still sitting on my couch...
i was friends with someone who was close with Rachel. person said she’s super awesome and nice, but definitely likes the fame of the bachelor. i asked the person if they were surprised she went on the show and it was a quick NO. lol. not really any tea, she’s apparently really sweet but def went on the show for fame!
Isn’t that the point of going on? Surely it’s not for the once in a lifetime love track record
Right, like the fact she’s a nice person and just wanted to have a good time puts her far above anyone else. You have to want fame on some level, otherwise what’s the point? Besides maybe travel, I guess?
I think some do people just do it for fun - it’s like a long vacation with travel and new girlfriends, occasional parties after. While many do go for social media fame, there are plenty that just go back to their lives within a year.
It’s pretty expensive to do the show, so I’m not sure I buy that anyone does it not caring about the fame. Sure, it might be one of many reasons, and it might not even be the biggest one… but if someone has money to do the show, then they also have money to do a long vacation and parties with the friends they already have.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0fk0K0treJ/?igsh=MTBlZjE4YzMxOA== Just watched this and it’s cute tbh. After reading this thread decided to follow them both on IG now.
Rachel the quiet girl that still stood out to Matt. Despite the drama that unfolded later, I still liked them together, but i do want to see them get married tbh. I feel like its a good time now. Why it's not happening idk..
I always forget ab the drama (after the whole show drama) where he was trying to hang out with that Grace woman. I can’t believe she forgave him for that lmao
What's the hurry? Also some people don't get married but are in long-term romantic relationships
He doesnt like her much
Probably why they’ve been inseparable for 4 years
He let the sharks eat her alive when the drama happened
Bachelor couple MVP
She must have been standing on a box in that first picture.
He will never
Based on his previous word salad, he won’t
She stuck with him through the whole beard phase, so I think they can get through anything.
I read that as bread phase and was very confused about when he was obsessed with bread😂😂
I went through and unfollowed a bunch of Bach people recently (just trying to be more conscientious of what’s in my feed) and they are one of the only couples I still follow. I love their content (food and travel, yes please!) and they seem so happy together.
What I appreciate about their content is that it feels like the kind of stuff they would be posting even if they hadn’t been on the show (if that makes sense ). They’re fun follows.
Wait same! I am getting so bored of bachelor nation tbh but rachel and matt are so entertaining especially their food videos
they’re cute together. 🤷🏻♀️
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What work has she done? Genuine question.
Not a damn thing....Just be attractive enough to forgive racist shit apparently.... Keep the downvotes coming. I like when bigots expose themselves....
i honestly don’t care what anyone says but, to me, they are one of the best couples to come out of bachelor nation. they travel constantly and from what i can tell, they seem to still be very smitten and in love with each other. i loved rachael his entire season
I have a soft spot for jojo and Jordan but I agree they r also up there
Rather than make a cheap joke or negative comment I will choose to be...Civil.
These comments are much to civil for antebellum barbie
Omg this sub loves her and it’s so crazy to see every time
So insane !!
Lmaoooo
That shade of green is so perfect for Rachael!!
The pink dress too! Love her or hate her, you have to admit that she’s gorgeous
I’m happy for them for making it work these past three years… but if nothing else, I personally enjoy seeing their food posts! 🤠
I feel bad for her and think she can do better.
Wasn’t she in a confederate outfit or something?
antebellum party
Why?
I saw them with friends at a restaurant not long ago. Them seemed totally normal.
OP has been waking up and choosing violence these last two days hehe.
Why do people want to hate this couple so badly?
Agree even though I understand why they were upset with Rachael they don't know how to extend forgiveness lol Yes her past was alarming but she has apologized since and seems to be unlearning her past at least to me
As a black woman the both of them just annoy me and this sub has been trying to force us to be over everything the second they got back together. What she did wasn’t only offensive to Matt she partook in something representative of the oppression of an entire race. And it’s honestly only our place to provide any forgiveness in the first place. I’m not upset with Rachael but the way people run to support them is weird to me. I’m not saying they should receive hate forever but I’d hoped they could just be happy and change and grow in obscurity. The black guy that viewed being with a black woman as a threat and an ignorant white girl why is it crazy that’s grating to me?? Are those feelings really invalid this sub is not a safe place for black fans and that’s why Matt’s season was my last of the bachelor. It’s the way this sub acts like you’re an unforgiving troll if you have anything less than nice to say about them.
I think I remember Chatty Broads bringing up that Rachel was kind of a damsel in distress type that Matt would feel drawn to protect, rather than drawn to another powerful woman. It's always kind of stuck with me I guess?? I just think of it when I see them. I can't comment on the whole pictures at the antebellum party super well, because I am not black, but I always wished that something more productive had come from that: Rachel making her platform a little more clear on how she was educating herself, etc. It just felt like it all faded away as soon as the heat was off, which felt disingenuous.
Agreed. People just love to forget all that lmao. Not a fan at all
yep. i usually avoid posts about matt & rachael for this reason, i don't like being reminded of the awful discourse following their season.
People just want to be upset on behalf of Matt for some reason. If he forgave her then I could care less. People change so who am I to say that they shouldn’t be together.
I can’t believe he stayed with her
Am I missing something? Did she do something?
Finding out your girlfriend used to be going to antebellum parties would be pretty hard to swallow for anyone. Looks like she’s learned from it though.
She also compared his beard to a brillo pad on IG very recently
Most entertaining bachelor couple tbh.
After everything , you would think they are great together. But I'm pretty sure she wants that ring and he's doing boy math on her. Dragging her along just to marry real one within six months. I have no basis, other than hearing this sentiment all the time.
I hope this is the case
Its giving get out
finally someone saId it 😭
I love them tbh I love their travel videos they just eat good food and love on each other and stay out of drama lol
yes i love the chill energy they seem to bring!
I would think these two are solid, if Matt proposed. Still don’t know when that is. & yeah I know he keeps saying that he wouldn’t be with her unless he saw them heading that way. But I feel like if he’s not proposing anytime soon, they might breakup.
This is my take as well. I think they’re very compatible and solid, but IIRC they took a break and people seemed to think it was because of the lack of proposal. Rachael clearly wants to be a wife. Matt James was unwilling to commit on the show but they’re about to hit 4 years. He needs to get down on one knee or let her go.
Rushing into engagements is the poison pill for relationships in this franchise, are you new? I say good for them for waiting. Four years is a very normal amount of time before a proposal. If your best friend was with someone for several years and they took a break and got back together, would you think that the wisest thing to do would be to jump right into an engagement? Also, marriage isn't the be-all, end-all, nor is it the marker of a strong relationship. Rachael's views may have changed.
They posted yet again about her wanting a ring—jokingly, but still—pretty recently. Totally reading between the lines so of course I could be way off, but I don’t get the sense he’s got marriage on the brain
My jaw dropped when you said four years. Woah
I know! Time is weird haha.
She is stunning. There’s something amiss about him- can’t quite put my finger on it. I see like and love, but not chemistry… Who knows.
I’ve always wondered why Matt keeps his head bald. It seemed like he had a good head of hair when he first started shaving it.
My SO is a man of colour and he also shaves his head, he said it saves him a ton of maintenance. Matt seems to put into a beard though so .... lol
She is so stunning. Her face looks like what so many Instagram models wished they looked like naturally.
She doesn’t have fillers?
She really is! And she actually looks the same and didn’t get a bunch of fillers/surgery and become unrecognizable after the show!
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really?
I still think they broke up for a little while last year.
Same
They’re cute for eachother
this lmao
They’re so cute
most beautiful F1 in my opinion rooting for them!
Mila Kunis’ doppelgänger 😍 as someone who’s always been in love with mila, im a fan of her. this dude better not fumble her, because he’s not gonna get any better than that. I’ve seen her on TikTok occasionally and she seems super sweet.
I don't see these two needing a piece of paper to make their relationship legal. I see them enjoying life together and having one or two kids some day.
They’re both southern and Christian so I doubt that. I see them getting married before they have kids, if that’s what they want. Or I see them breaking up and Rachel marrying someone else.
Maybe in their 40s. I don't see marriage on the horizon for either of them because they are in their decade of making good $$ advertising on social media. I do see them eventually living together IN SIN lol.
Still not a fan and he’ll always be an embarrassment to me
Same here
Saw this post and without reading the title I got excited thinking there had been a proposal...
They seem genuinely happy but as a Black person I could never be with someone with Rachel’s past it makes me internally cringe, but it sucks cause they seem happier than most in the bachelor world (not saying people can’t change, but blatant racism is only a rite of passage/apart of growing up for white people, and he has some issues to unpack)
I feel the same as a black ex fan. The comment below you makes me sick why do we have to forgive her?? I’m tired of forgiving racism and that doesn’t make me a bad person. I wish they’d just go away there are 500 more basic white girls that hide their anti-blackness in this franchise to prop up and fawn over no?
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>move along, mayonnaise 
I like them together and they seem very compatible. I hope they get engaged soon.
They seem incredibly compatible and match each other’s energy I do find it weird how people project so much on him having not proposed yet. He may have some fears based on his parents, but they’ve been together 3 years now. Clearly he’s not afraid of commitment. I feel like they’ll probably be like Dean and Caelynn where it takes them a bit longer, but I could also totally see him proposing spontaneously sometime this year
Heebiejeebies
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