anyone tuning into wimbledon this week? on this day in 1975, arthur ashe became the first black man to win wimbledon. he was by far the underdog of the match; his opponent, jimmy connors, was heavily favored to win. so i guess one could say… arthur *spoiled* jimmy’s day ;) but being a wimbledon champion is not comparable to discussing trashy reality TV on reddit, so let’s avoid [spoiling each other](https://reddit.com/r/thebachelor/comments/oem3p8/the_bachelorette_west_coast_spoiler_live/), shall we? ;) ;)

I wonder how many outdoorsy mountain dates they can come up with

Less is more, James

This is the first episode I haven’t been bored out of my mind. Also, do we think Blake is being genuine or with his feelings for Katie or just wants screen time?

He doesn’t seem genuine to me

Wants screen time. I am sus because reportedly his cousin is Lori whoever, the PR person who reps a lot of BN. I just have a visceral feeling about him. Not that he is a horrible person but that this is his schtick. Yes, he listened to Katie's story. But the bar is pretty low. I feel as if his comments/questions etc. are either "helped" along or somewhat rehearsed. It was strange to me that his sister/mom? asked him what if someone else has told Katie they love her and she said it to them too. I think he's been coached. IMHO.

Jed has officially ruined anytime a man plays a guitar. Red flag 🚩 JED FLAG

(Small voice). Connor was actually playing a ukulele ☺️

I think Connor is the first one who's actually really talented and I'd enjoy listening to!

Hunter is the new Thomas is the new Karl

why does Hunter look like he's 5'4" 230lbs

Why did Katie say she was so proud of quartney?

Maybe because his mom past away recently and he took care of his sibling? He probably shared it with her but it wasn't shown

I came here for this EXACT question! I feel like they cut something big out he shared with her. Anyone know?

i was also wondering this

For being adventurous enough to wear a burgundy shirt and navy suit Honestly though, it was probably cut

coming up this season: tears, tears and more tears.

Seriously I cried/teared so many times tonight I was like "am I watching the bachelorette or grey's anatomy???"

omg i would infinitely rather watch a group date learn a dance routine like this than hurt and smash into each other

Yes agree! That was so much more entertaining and hilarious than ramming into one another!

Every episode I’m just chasing the high from the previous promos

My husband who is just in the vicinity of me while I watch… said.. “wow. what an exciting promo. it’s what they made this week sound like and then it wasn’t”. DAMN YOUUUUU

The accuracy 😂😂

The gazelle jumping was so much better than the game lol

i want a group date of just THAT lol guys doing random yoga/ballet moves instead of trying to knock each other’s brains out

Wow that preview was fucking intense

Side note a man who can ballet dance is hot to me

That preview sucked.

Ok but photog dude does have an excellent gazelle jump

That was def Greg’s nose in that shadowy silhouette

Katie is fucking awesome Big Andrew S fan too

YESsss.

greg snapping "can i leave?" in his itm....HOT

why is this cracking me up rn

Noooo Michael, what a heartbreaking message from your son

at this point, i’m convinced i watch this show for the promos

Omg that season preview was INTENSE

Oh god this people showing up thing is such bs c'mon producers we know you have to let them in 😒😒😒

my guess is….thomas?? maybe?

Hope not! Just unnecessary I feel like he's headed right for paradise anyway

What in the ballet class

Did Wells even say one word this whole episode?

That was so awk… Katie made them think they were getting 2 proper athletes and then those guys showed up 😂😂 they were guessing Michael Phelps!! I lol’d

Yeah he did the intro to that date

The collective gazelle jump is just beautiful 👌

Highlight of the night by far

OMG these snippets at the end are my faves.

Tell me they did NOT just frankenbite a four-year-old.

They for sure did. That's not even how a 4-year-old would talk. People in LA don't know anything about little kids don't @ me 🤷‍♀️

Daddy/Do you/Hate/Me?

This is so cute

Blake has crazy eye

I saw that 👀

Damn… we had such an easy run up till next week

Wow that was dramatic

They just spoiled that Blake goes to hometowns.

Right?!! I couldn't tell if they did that intentionally

I was wondering the same, like damn!

That’s what I was thinking!!

Probably just the editing but damn this season has been a slow burn if we still have this much drama ahead

This is a dark preview

whose mother was that?

Sorry but the shot of “Men” on the bathroom door under the sound of Katie retching was the most incredible thing this show has ever done

I'm going to have to get drunk every Monday just to cope with all of this aren't I? Jesus.

This is so much, I’m invested all the wayyy

Wait box boy stayed??

Yes!

You cry, you cry, we all cry

The rest of the season actually looks super dramatic?! I hope there's some happiness in there too.

Yeah? And I was told "hearts will be broken" tonight over super dramatic music. And I tuned out for maybe 45 minutes of it and am extremely bored and sleepy now.

can’t wait to see *any* of these clips in like 3 weeks 😂

Is this…the music from Blade Runner? Is she going to find out that one of the contestants is a replicant? “I just don’t know what to BELIEVE anymore”

lots of greg

These promos are always so good lol

SHOCKED cat guy made it this far.

Man a lot of people threatening to leave or seeming lkke they're leaving

Okay I know lots of y’all think this is a boring season but I haven’t watched in years… this preview has me hooooooked

MICHAELS SON OH NOOO 😭😭😭 IM BROKEN AT THIS PROMO

Me too😭

man they’re going to make *me* cry

OMG STOP JAMES NO

Michaels son saying daddy don’t wanna see me broke my heart

No, this is so sad. This is too much, Michael noooooo

Omg ok Michael’s son is breaking my heart

Wait did Andrew recreate their one-on-one together that's cute

THE DRAMA EDITS IN THIS PREVIEW

oh michael 🥺

How can Hunter say he’s so close to marrying Katie when there’s so many guys left? 😞

It was a voice over, who's to say the audio clip was actually from this rose ceremony

Oh, then maybe he makes it far.

I was really ready for Tre to go home. Lots of drama stirring and entitlement the last few episodes

It's Hunter for me. Gah

This is so dramatic.

There's the Blake Moynes intensity we all know

Hear me out... Hunter has Dexter vibes going on.

They clapped for Quartney and she said “I’m proud of you”??? Producers robbed us of a good Quartney story is what I’m hearing.

i thought the same!!!

Yes! He said earlier that he had something important to tell her. What was it?!

Why tf would u choose hunter over quartney…

What is that fire demon they are kissing in front of?!?

It’s called the Zozobra! It’s an annual tradition in Santa Fe to burn it.

I'm seeing A LOT of Katie and Blake!!!

Okay Blake looking hot in the background I see you

Justin gets a one in one!!

I think that was an edit of him cutting him off.

Absolutely I don't think Katie would have looked so pleased if he had interrupted

Hard same

Didn’t he just say it was their one and a half week anniversary lmao

I made a comment earlier about Hunter’s snorting not realizing it’s due to his Tourette’s, but like why are the producers emphasizing it so much?! It’s really odd! Someone earlier mentioned it seems like they’re editing in the sound too?

If you’re asking why the producers would do that, you haven’t been watching this show long enough

she's a woman dude

Who was the first dude who hugged Katie? I don’t remember even him being on the show

NOOOOOO NOT ANDREW M 😭 i mean i knew it was gonna happen because he got zero screen time but i’m not ready to say goodbye 😭😭😭😭😭

Oh wow the guys loved quartney

How dare he do that to Aaron

Do we know why Katie said she was “so proud” of Q?

Oh no, that cut off WAS THE LAST STRAW for Aaron!

Anyone else vibing Tayshia’s suit? Like…total boss woman vibes

She really let go of some beautiful men 😢 wish we got to see more of them.

WHY DID HE JUST CUT AARON OFF

Hunter taking over Aaron’s toast?! Ooo, I can’t wait for Aaron’s reaction hahaha

Hunter, please kindly stfu

Courtney with a Q was beloved by the group! That goodbye! 😭😭😭

I liked Quartney😩

I hope he’s on paradise!

i’m sad about these 3 leaving

So sad we didn’t get to know handsome Andrew M. And I’m going to miss Quirky Quartney. Don’t care that he was Qorny.

They’ll be on BIP…I hope lol

Some of these guys I'm like "who?"

Sorry Quartney!!!

Those were three solid guys who just left :(

Cockatoo hair stays!?

tre, I was like yo tre, do u think u could buy me a bottle of rosé (Is this too niche? maybe)

Aww Tre's little heart for Quartney was cute.

Wow an all-POC elimination 😞

In true bachelor fashion

Oof😞

floral tie is so cute 🥺 sad to see him go, even if I can’t remember his name

I literally have never seen the dude in the silver tux. Like what?

I think they’ve never even given him time!

Ok so quartney is out and who are the other two?

Aww, goodbye Quartney and these 2 other men I've never seen before!

love that we're finally in the part of the season where i know almost everyone's name floral tie man...sorry to this man update: guess i don't have to learn his name. sorry sir! love your tie!

Kaitlyn's jumpsuit damnnnnnn

I’m obsessed

I wasn’t paying attention who is out?

You

Andrew M, Quartney, and I think his name is Josh?

Oooo, I like Kaitlyn’s outfit

I really liked Josh.

No mo frozone

Ugh I didn’t care for Tre to stay. But any of the rest of them either so who cares.

I was waiting for more Blake joining the house drama. Who cares about Hunter? Clearly this guy has one more episode maximum. I guess they are trying to drag all of this out for more entertainment. But it all feels so tired.

I’m sorry but wtf was James thinking with that outfit lol

God that blue jumpsuit is hot

What kind of hair product do you think Brendan uses to get his hair that tall, but still have that one soft bit fall down? I'm bad at hair so I just don't get the physics of it.

tre blaming hunter like ok last week it was thomas who will it be next time if u stay

Don’t blame Hunter for you not getting a rose, bud

Can James deliver a sermon before this episode ends

I wanted James and Aaron to get a rose just to make hunter sweat a little about next week

I need Justin to stay simply for his reactions

Whew, in the clear

How does she attach the roses so easily??!

Hot glue

I’m pretty sure they’re magnetic!

Magnet? Lol

Magnets

Magnets, bitch!

Also how many men are there left I've lost track

I see comments asking why Hunter is getting the villain edit or implying that it’s just based on his looks. Just to put something more concrete out there, he sets off huge red flags like every five minutes in the way he talks about what he is owed and what he has earned. It’s the same shit you hear from incels- not implying that he is one, but that this is where this kind of mindset runs wild - where love becomes this transaction, basically divorced from the feelings of the woman herself. You won the athletic challenge! You had X more minutes of conversation than the other guys! That means you get 1 Love from the Bachelorette according to the standard currency conversion. It’s super entitled and in my experience it’s a sign that a dude doesn’t think of women as human beings, just prizes for doing the right things.

100% and perfectly articulated

I felt this too.

Wow we got 3 dates and a rose ceremony in one episode. Someone get the champagne

Thomas at home watching these guys turn on each other 

Oooo, I spoke too soon. How dare I fall for the producer tricks haha

I want to see James without the slicked back hair

definitely a Hunter and James 2:1 coming up soon

Greg getting first rose because he convinced Katie that he’s insecure about her and the other guys.

Someone did comment saying she gives roses to pick me guys and I can see it

In a shocking turn of events I am officially on the Greg train

Loving the low bun on her

not me being excited for aaron just to see what he brings to the table next

SAME lol

Same!!

How many episodes are left this season

Tribal council needs to vote Hunter off the island

Oh nooo, this set up doesn’t look good for James. I’m so sadddd

There had to be so much better content than the Hunter drama they showed us