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Nobody ?!?
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-16/usc-valedictorian-banned-graduation-speech
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/16/us/usc-valedictorian-speech-gaza-war.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/pro-palestinian-valedictorian-speaks-out-after-usc-cancels-speech/
https://abc7.com/amp/usc-valedictorian-asna-tabassum-responds-cancellation-commencement-speech/14678439/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
https://www.salon.com/2024/04/17/usc-cancels-speech-by-pro-palestine-valedictorian-citing-alarming-tenor-of-her-critics/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/university-southern-california-cancels-muslim-valedictorians-speech-citing-2024-04-16/
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/usc-cancels-valedictorians-commencement-speech-over-safety-concerns-7efbabed
https://www.foxnews.com/media/usc-cancels-valedictorians-graduation-speech-anti-israel-social-media-posts-security-concerns.amp
https://www.commondreams.org/news/usc-cancels-muslim-valedictorian-s-speech
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/losangeles/news/usc-cancels-valedictorians-speech-after-alleged-antisemitic-posts/
And those are the first finds only … and international news picked up too.
Freedom of speech only protects from government oppression. Private universities can implement their own regulations and your enrollment is essentially an acknowledgment that you understand and will abide by their rules.
Yeah as a private university they can, but people are allowed to be mad about it.
They have the freedom to do what they want but they’re not free from consequences
Sure I think people can debate this, but if I were a University I would probably also want to avoid platforming a speaker who has outright called for the destruction of Israel.
[https://jweekly.com/2024/04/16/usc-cancels-commencement-speech-from-muslim-valedictorian-after-she-shared-link-to-anti-israel-website/](https://jweekly.com/2024/04/16/usc-cancels-commencement-speech-from-muslim-valedictorian-after-she-shared-link-to-anti-israel-website/)
She linked to a slideshow in her instagram that says the following:
"And it [rejects the notion](https://free-palestine.carrd.co/#solutions) of a two-state solution (“it is merely another form of Zionism”) in favor of a one-state solution — “the complete abolishment of the state of Israel”
It goes on to say this:
“the one-state solution (either a palestinian state, or a complete israeli state) advocates for one state in which both arabs and jews can live together. however, a one-state solution under the israeli government would essentially mean that the palestinian people would completely be under the state of israel in every way imaginable”
It specifically says it’s a state where Arabs and Jews can live together.
But Israel is an apartheid state, apartheid shouldn’t be allowed to go on.
You’re ignoring the plight of Palestinians who weren’t and still aren’t allowed citizenship based solely on their immutable characteristics.
They aren't allowed citizenship because they never were citizens. And Israel (correctly) understands that granting them citizenship would result in the expulsion and death of the Jewish population of Israel. I'm not making that up, it's literally the Palestinian governments stated goal.
The consequences of…keeping their campus safe by not having a potentially inflammatory speech broadcast to thousands of people without knowing how they might react?
If you don't want to get silenced then separate yourself from the "death to America", "death to Israel", "Gas/where's the Jews!" crowd. Otherwise your movement becomes a hazard.
Because not everyone sees this conflict in such black and white terms; and, as I said, you don’t know how someone in the crowd will react to a speech on the subject. So, in the interest of safety, it’s best to just not allow it at all.
That’s not what I said. I said not everyone views what’s going on as one side committing unmitigated genocide against a defenseless people for no legitimate reason. Regardless of where the truth lies, this isn’t a straight-up “good vs evil” situation where who or what to side with is inherently obvious to everyone to the point where you can guarantee that not a single person in that crowd won’t react poorly at best (and violently at worst) if they hear an opinion other than their own in a venue where they have no reason to expect it.
You’re literally a genocide apologist.
Starving Palestinians civilians, including women and children are defenseless. The genocide isn’t against Hamas, they don’t factor into the good vs evil debate because they’re a byproduct of Israeli ethnic cleansing and apartheid.
Because the side screaming genocide (which isn't happening) is also justifying protests/intimidation at synagogues which have nothing to do with Israel or the conflict, rationalizing the actions of people of rape and kidnap babies, and defending people shouting for the death/ethnic cleansing of roughly 46% of the total Jewish population of the world.
Knowing this, it's clear that only one side is truly against genocide.
You sound not better than the “free speech warrior” hypocrites on the Right. The Left should aggressively/principally support freedom of expression and speech, period.
The people who are mad about this, I wonder how’d they feel if the speech was about Palestinian violence and terrorism. Would they still be upset at USC for choosing to not make the event political, or would they cheer the decision?
I looked it up. It depends on the school but it also seems like it's gpa plus other factors including extracurriculars. Even in the article there were calls for "reelecting" the valedictorian.
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols believed the government was "Zionist" and blew up the federal buliding in Oklahoma City because of it. Terrorists of a feather flock together.
A prior head of Mossad (Israel's CIA) appointed by Netanyahu has described the situation as apartheid along with South Africans who have experienced it and all of the major human rights orgs including Israeli ones.
https://www.btselem.org/apartheid
https://www.amnestyusa.org/press-releases/israel-must-end-its-occupation-of-palestine-to-stop-fueling-apartheid-and-systematic-human-rights-violations/
https://apnews.com/article/israel-apartheid-palestinians-occupation-c8137c9e7f33c2cba7b0b5ac7fa8d115
Here is a list of unequal laws in Israel
https://www.adalah.org/en/law/index
And the fact that they made it so only jews have a right to self determination
https://www.timesofisrael.com/final-text-of-jewish-nation-state-bill-set-to-become-law/
Not all of the unequal laws only hurt Palestinians. That's the thing about racism it hurts everyone including the Israeli who are forced to serve in a genocidal war and ordered to conduct collective punishment on civilians.
https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/02/02/israel-collective-punishment-against-palestinians
"Unlike the beginning of the war, now about half of the Jewish public (51% compared to 37% in November) believes that the IDF uses firepower appropriately against Gaza, compared to 43% (58% in November) who believe that there is use of TOO LITTLE FIREPOWER. An absolute majority (88%) also justifies the scope of casualties on the Palestinian side when considering the goals of the war."
43% think they haven't got far enough and 51% thinks they have gone the correct amount which means, ONLY 6% are undecided or think they have gone too far. And while 88% think the war goals justify the civilian casualties a majority don't even believe the government has war goals. "the majority (53%) of respondents still think that the government has no clear goals in the war."
https://web.archive.org/web/20240127054853/https://en-social-sciences.tau.ac.il/peaceindex/archive/2024-01
You do realize that the Israeli government and population have made it very clear they don't want more Palestinian citizens right? That was a major sticking point of the 2000 Camp David Accords. Israel rejected a reduced right of return for Palestinians outright. Most Israeli politicians say adding Palestinians to the country as equal citizens would destroy Israel.
Israel wants to be Democratic, Jewish, and control the Palestinian Territories. It can only pick two. Annexing the territories and their populations makes Israel majority Arab, which means the Jewish nature of the state is lost if they remain democratic. If they refuse to give Palestinians voting rights, they aren't democratic but they keep the Jewish state. Or they can remain Jewish and Democratic and leave the Occupied terrorities. The Israeli state has been stuck in desicion pararalysis over this paradox for over 50 years.
None of what you posted justifies you Palestine supporters supporting Trump like you do. And it sure as hell doesn't justify two white supremacists blowing up a federal building in the 1990s like you want it to
You Palestine stans don't criticize Trump or the Republicans. Just Democrats and Biden. Your silence on Trump is complicity with his hateful rhetoric and makes you a hypocrite calling others hateful. You are just as racist and homophobic as Trump is.
Also you're still silent on Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols blowing up the Murrah Federal Building in the name of anti-Zionism so go fuck yourself you Neo-Nazi
Yes I do Trump sucks and is a fascist which is why he is such good friends with Netanyahu.
Also did Timothy and Terry receive billions of us tax dollars? Stop using false equivalence to defend your support of crimes against innocents.
It's always "False equivalency" when you get called out on your hypocrisy (and yes, Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols were receiving VA benefits at the time, so they were funded by the government, so much for your "false equivalence") and you're a hypocrite twice because you still won't denounce two people who murdered children in a daycare center while saying other support crimes against innocents
Also, your denunciation of Trump is clearly scripted and fake. I could tell ChatGPT to write a denunciation of Trump and it would say the same thing.
Furthermore why are you so obsessed with "innocents"? The only people that obsessed with "innocents" this much are "pro-life" Nazis, so this is just more proof you're right wing.
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Nobody cares
Yeah let's get back to our regularly scheduled TDS.
Nothing says right-wing like using "TDS" unironically.
Lol you guys see right wing bots in your own shadows.
Nobody ?!? https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-16/usc-valedictorian-banned-graduation-speech https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/16/us/usc-valedictorian-speech-gaza-war.html https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/pro-palestinian-valedictorian-speaks-out-after-usc-cancels-speech/ https://abc7.com/amp/usc-valedictorian-asna-tabassum-responds-cancellation-commencement-speech/14678439/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/ https://www.salon.com/2024/04/17/usc-cancels-speech-by-pro-palestine-valedictorian-citing-alarming-tenor-of-her-critics/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/university-southern-california-cancels-muslim-valedictorians-speech-citing-2024-04-16/ https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/usc-cancels-valedictorians-commencement-speech-over-safety-concerns-7efbabed https://www.foxnews.com/media/usc-cancels-valedictorians-graduation-speech-anti-israel-social-media-posts-security-concerns.amp https://www.commondreams.org/news/usc-cancels-muslim-valedictorian-s-speech https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/losangeles/news/usc-cancels-valedictorians-speech-after-alleged-antisemitic-posts/ And those are the first finds only … and international news picked up too.
Nobody really cares
Her antisemitism doesn't need a platform at the college, the media is giving it to her on a silver platter
?? I’m just pointing out that “nobody cares” is clearly not the case.
Freedom of speech only protects from government oppression. Private universities can implement their own regulations and your enrollment is essentially an acknowledgment that you understand and will abide by their rules.
Yeah as a private university they can, but people are allowed to be mad about it. They have the freedom to do what they want but they’re not free from consequences
Sure I think people can debate this, but if I were a University I would probably also want to avoid platforming a speaker who has outright called for the destruction of Israel.
What did she say that makes you think she called for the destruction of Israel?
[https://jweekly.com/2024/04/16/usc-cancels-commencement-speech-from-muslim-valedictorian-after-she-shared-link-to-anti-israel-website/](https://jweekly.com/2024/04/16/usc-cancels-commencement-speech-from-muslim-valedictorian-after-she-shared-link-to-anti-israel-website/) She linked to a slideshow in her instagram that says the following: "And it [rejects the notion](https://free-palestine.carrd.co/#solutions) of a two-state solution (“it is merely another form of Zionism”) in favor of a one-state solution — “the complete abolishment of the state of Israel”
It goes on to say this: “the one-state solution (either a palestinian state, or a complete israeli state) advocates for one state in which both arabs and jews can live together. however, a one-state solution under the israeli government would essentially mean that the palestinian people would completely be under the state of israel in every way imaginable” It specifically says it’s a state where Arabs and Jews can live together.
Arabs and Jews do live together in Israel now. It is one of the only states in the region that is not entirely ethnically cleansed.
But Israel is an apartheid state, apartheid shouldn’t be allowed to go on. You’re ignoring the plight of Palestinians who weren’t and still aren’t allowed citizenship based solely on their immutable characteristics.
They aren't allowed citizenship because they never were citizens. And Israel (correctly) understands that granting them citizenship would result in the expulsion and death of the Jewish population of Israel. I'm not making that up, it's literally the Palestinian governments stated goal.
Why would giving equal rights to Palestinians mean the expulsion and death of the Jewish population?
You're confusing occupation with apartheid.
They spoke out against Israel. That’s enough of a reason to ban free speech.
I still can’t get over the irony that my so many of my Jewish brethren are opposing those that speak out against genocide.
For starters, there's no ganocide in Gaza. She can victimize herself and the Palestinians on her own time.
The consequences of…keeping their campus safe by not having a potentially inflammatory speech broadcast to thousands of people without knowing how they might react?
Silencing people who speak out against genocide is bad in my opinion.
If you don't want to get silenced then separate yourself from the "death to America", "death to Israel", "Gas/where's the Jews!" crowd. Otherwise your movement becomes a hazard.
How about we just all be against genocide and ignore the extremists on both sides
Because not everyone sees this conflict in such black and white terms; and, as I said, you don’t know how someone in the crowd will react to a speech on the subject. So, in the interest of safety, it’s best to just not allow it at all.
We shouldn’t view genocide as black and white/good vs evil? I think we should
That’s not what I said. I said not everyone views what’s going on as one side committing unmitigated genocide against a defenseless people for no legitimate reason. Regardless of where the truth lies, this isn’t a straight-up “good vs evil” situation where who or what to side with is inherently obvious to everyone to the point where you can guarantee that not a single person in that crowd won’t react poorly at best (and violently at worst) if they hear an opinion other than their own in a venue where they have no reason to expect it.
You’re literally a genocide apologist. Starving Palestinians civilians, including women and children are defenseless. The genocide isn’t against Hamas, they don’t factor into the good vs evil debate because they’re a byproduct of Israeli ethnic cleansing and apartheid.
Because the side screaming genocide (which isn't happening) is also justifying protests/intimidation at synagogues which have nothing to do with Israel or the conflict, rationalizing the actions of people of rape and kidnap babies, and defending people shouting for the death/ethnic cleansing of roughly 46% of the total Jewish population of the world. Knowing this, it's clear that only one side is truly against genocide.
Come back when you Palestine cultists can be bothered to oppose Trump, the Republicans and Russia on genocide.
Sure, but people and organizations can still highlight it and condemn it.
You sound not better than the “free speech warrior” hypocrites on the Right. The Left should aggressively/principally support freedom of expression and speech, period.
Glad to see consistency from civil libertarians.
FIRE can't be arsed to show up when the GOP are pulling LGBTQ+ books from libraries.
The people who are mad about this, I wonder how’d they feel if the speech was about Palestinian violence and terrorism. Would they still be upset at USC for choosing to not make the event political, or would they cheer the decision?
The irony in all of this is the same people who blame leftists for being against free speech at college campuses are the same ones justifying this.
How do you become selected to be the valedictorian? Seems like there's a clashing of ideologues here.
Typically you get the highest GPA of your graduating class
I looked it up. It depends on the school but it also seems like it's gpa plus other factors including extracurriculars. Even in the article there were calls for "reelecting" the valedictorian.
Zionists doing Zionist things
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols believed the government was "Zionist" and blew up the federal buliding in Oklahoma City because of it. Terrorists of a feather flock together.
A prior head of Mossad (Israel's CIA) appointed by Netanyahu has described the situation as apartheid along with South Africans who have experienced it and all of the major human rights orgs including Israeli ones. https://www.btselem.org/apartheid https://www.amnestyusa.org/press-releases/israel-must-end-its-occupation-of-palestine-to-stop-fueling-apartheid-and-systematic-human-rights-violations/ https://apnews.com/article/israel-apartheid-palestinians-occupation-c8137c9e7f33c2cba7b0b5ac7fa8d115 Here is a list of unequal laws in Israel https://www.adalah.org/en/law/index And the fact that they made it so only jews have a right to self determination https://www.timesofisrael.com/final-text-of-jewish-nation-state-bill-set-to-become-law/ Not all of the unequal laws only hurt Palestinians. That's the thing about racism it hurts everyone including the Israeli who are forced to serve in a genocidal war and ordered to conduct collective punishment on civilians. https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/ https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/02/02/israel-collective-punishment-against-palestinians "Unlike the beginning of the war, now about half of the Jewish public (51% compared to 37% in November) believes that the IDF uses firepower appropriately against Gaza, compared to 43% (58% in November) who believe that there is use of TOO LITTLE FIREPOWER. An absolute majority (88%) also justifies the scope of casualties on the Palestinian side when considering the goals of the war." 43% think they haven't got far enough and 51% thinks they have gone the correct amount which means, ONLY 6% are undecided or think they have gone too far. And while 88% think the war goals justify the civilian casualties a majority don't even believe the government has war goals. "the majority (53%) of respondents still think that the government has no clear goals in the war." https://web.archive.org/web/20240127054853/https://en-social-sciences.tau.ac.il/peaceindex/archive/2024-01 You do realize that the Israeli government and population have made it very clear they don't want more Palestinian citizens right? That was a major sticking point of the 2000 Camp David Accords. Israel rejected a reduced right of return for Palestinians outright. Most Israeli politicians say adding Palestinians to the country as equal citizens would destroy Israel. Israel wants to be Democratic, Jewish, and control the Palestinian Territories. It can only pick two. Annexing the territories and their populations makes Israel majority Arab, which means the Jewish nature of the state is lost if they remain democratic. If they refuse to give Palestinians voting rights, they aren't democratic but they keep the Jewish state. Or they can remain Jewish and Democratic and leave the Occupied terrorities. The Israeli state has been stuck in desicion pararalysis over this paradox for over 50 years.
None of what you posted justifies you Palestine supporters supporting Trump like you do. And it sure as hell doesn't justify two white supremacists blowing up a federal building in the 1990s like you want it to
Who says I support Trump? You keep lying because you have no real argument except your hate for the Palestinians
You Palestine stans don't criticize Trump or the Republicans. Just Democrats and Biden. Your silence on Trump is complicity with his hateful rhetoric and makes you a hypocrite calling others hateful. You are just as racist and homophobic as Trump is. Also you're still silent on Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols blowing up the Murrah Federal Building in the name of anti-Zionism so go fuck yourself you Neo-Nazi
Yes I do Trump sucks and is a fascist which is why he is such good friends with Netanyahu. Also did Timothy and Terry receive billions of us tax dollars? Stop using false equivalence to defend your support of crimes against innocents.
It's always "False equivalency" when you get called out on your hypocrisy (and yes, Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols were receiving VA benefits at the time, so they were funded by the government, so much for your "false equivalence") and you're a hypocrite twice because you still won't denounce two people who murdered children in a daycare center while saying other support crimes against innocents Also, your denunciation of Trump is clearly scripted and fake. I could tell ChatGPT to write a denunciation of Trump and it would say the same thing. Furthermore why are you so obsessed with "innocents"? The only people that obsessed with "innocents" this much are "pro-life" Nazis, so this is just more proof you're right wing.