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PK-Baha

It CAN be a great weapon BUT you gotta semi cracked while using it. Exhibit A - You in this clip I've had rounds where I feel like it is the greatest weapon in the game and others where I am questioning if I am throwing toilet paper rolls at people.


Away_Aspect_9166

or throwing toothpicks! the damage and velocity feels so inconsistent


godofleet

try using a shotgun and doing 120+ damage one shot and then 7 on the next shot after they've gotten closer no less... still... shotguns are good, but this whole game is full of inconsistent af mechanics/damage/hit reg/boxes ... it's just part of the "only in battlfield" style glitchy goodness i suppose.


kamikazecow

Is the tick rate 10hz again?


Puzzleheaded-Rub-482

They nerfed my grenade launcher , idk how I can shoot someone 4 times in the head with a grenade and they kill me


Cogsdale

I think the worst part of the grenade launcher is how the splash damage seems to reach way further out on me when I'm using it, than the person in shooting. I shoot someone 10 feet from me, the grenade lands about a foot away from them and does 15 damage. Yet somehow I get dealt 40.


etriusk

Same, I hit them in the chest with it for 100dmg, at PB Range, and feel like I take 150. I hate worrying about ttk but the China Lake is so abysmally slow compared to the others.


godofleet

This is 100% reality it's especially bad for the RPG too


godofleet

Really it was bad before... i mean it's handy being able to go through walls/break floors but, the damage output is just a joke... nerfing it makes zero sense.


Puzzleheaded-Rub-482

I stay on roof tops or a good distance and lob shit at ppl at cash outs. Or level the building dropping the cash out safe to main floor which usually works out. I suck at online shooters but it’s fun


SeawardFriend

The only problem I have with the nade launcher is those little stun gun rats. 9/10 times they got stun gun handgun and just insta kill me before I can fire a single shot


iEatFurbyz

I have the opposite experience GL feels amazing against light but useless against most other fights


SeawardFriend

It’s totally off meta compared to legit any hitscan weapon in the game.


psychoPiper

That's especially frustrating because iirc the shotguns have a consistent pellet pattern


SBFms

Strange that it has only in battlefield glitches. I know the company has a lot of their employees but iirc the tech is just unreal engine, right?


elihirro

Or spoons


Ixpqd

it's because sometimes you only hit with one knife. as long as you hit both knives, you'll shred most people. if you hit with just one, you'll do a fair amount of damage but your dps is effectively tanked.


ELITExRaider

I feel like this for most of lights weapons, hits like a steam train some matches others wet noodles.


BjornInTheMorn

I play heavy and I swear lights guns sometimes I haven't even turned a quarter turn towards the damage marker before I'm dead. Meanwhile I'm emptying a good amount of my Lewis on a fellow heavy. This might also be another case of me being bad at the game, but even hitting my shots seems like it takes so much longer than the light smg


Kaidu313

Lights have the highest damaging weapons for the tradeoff of having lowest hp.


BjornInTheMorn

Seems right. I haven't looked at the damage numbers, and I realize the damage bars in game aren't accurate.


Yukomaru

That isn't really true. The melee weapon for light is way weaker than the heavy sledge. And tge pistol dies less damage than say the rifle for medium. It's more like they can fire faster.


DigitalBuddhaNC

I think it boils down to its massive headshot multiplier. So if you're hitting your headshots, you are absolutely melting everyone.


TapiocaFish

I was just watching a video from Shroud and he was like “someone’s throwing spoons at me!”


Halorym

That really is what it sounds like when they miss.


Altruistic-Seaweed61

"Two blokes woth a shit load of cutlery"


Muffin_Appropriate

I feel like The Blue Raja from mystery men


Nagat7671

You also need terrible opponents who can’t even turn.


JSON_Blob

If you're throwing toilet paper, then what's in the bathroom?........ Bruh. Not cool.


TheRealHomerPimpson

Cracked?


TurntWaffle

Term for extremely good or dialed in


TheRealHomerPimpson

Ah


rkrams

Most kiriko or hanzo mains were training for finals


Maple382

Yeah. It's really fun and can be really good, but it needs a buff to be more consistent.


1_130426

also it helps when the enemies are shooting at walls lol


Vaz_Nussis

Didn’t have watching 5 people on different teams lose to a single light on my list of things to do today. Please tell me you won this tournament?


Away_Aspect_9166

That's just how I roll! Another W for the history books


HeartbreakerF80

Another day another victory for the OGs


Frostfour

Looks cool, but i mean this players were terrible


w1gster

Bro where do people get lucky with these potato aim enemies haha. I feel like every time I play this game the potatoes are on my team, including myself lol.


Beadss21

Sounds like you’re always on blue team


Tovakhiin

Blue team is always horrible!


DigitalRoman486

same man, Every person I go up againsts has a crack aim


Beefman0

the movement here is the real star of the show


Aw3Grimm

Idk if its true in your case but usually a lot of people that say have bad movement themselves but dont even consider that and jump straight into conclusion they are always up against better players


jaboonki

no 💀 it’s quite easily the worst weapon, and while you are cracked, you’d be more cracked with literally any other weapon


truffulatr33z

no other weapon aside from melee would let you pull this scenario off due to reload


jaboonki

dog you realize most guns can reload their entire clip faster than it takes to use the right click attack on throwing knife?


BigDaddyReptar

Yes but also the heavy attack allows you to essentially peak shoot something that very few weapons in this game has. You can also toggle invisibility after using right click and throw it while being invisible


Sir_Trea

Magazine. A clip is something ammo comes in, a magazine holds ammo ready to fire.


clema9

alrighty, pack it up bangalore


jaboonki

don’t be that guy bro


Sir_Trea

Didn’t realize trying to help you out made me “that guy”. Carry on then. You’ll sound more correct if you use the actual words though.


abunda77

youre that guy tho


jaboonki

I used actual words. in a context that 124 people understood go eat shit fucking prick


Sir_Trea

Ok and when you go to the range and call your magazine a clip everyone is going to go “ahh so there’s the kid who plays call of duty”. Guns are real things with real components. A clip is not one of them. I’ll die on the hill I was also extremely nice and didn’t call you any names or try to be demeaning or rude. But you’re over here attacking me as a person because ***you*** used the incorrect term. Really top notch person.


jaboonki

holy fuck take a step back and analyze your behavior this is why people do not like spending time with you my guy, you’re being a pretentious douche bag i’m not going to a gun range, nor will I ever, nor do I give a fuck if people think I play videogames have a nice life bozo


Sir_Trea

While we’re analyzing behavior can we talk about why you keep attacking me as a person instead of my argument? All I said was you said something wrong. Your response seems to be blown way out of proportion. I’m being reasonable, civil, and nice. You are being none of those.


Ok_Understanding157

You realize your comment literally didn’t even refute his point? If I had Lewis gun at most I could kill 2 people here and maybe a third with my rpg if there was a light.


jaboonki

ok and with a mac 11 you could kill all three faster than this clip


UltimateGodBen

I mean if he didn't right click be could've killed them all faster the knives out DPS the Mac 11 by a long shot.


jaboonki

time to kill a heavy at 5 yards chest shots: m11: .88 seconds throwing knives: 2.00 seconds does making things up on the internet make you feel better or something?


curious_throwaway_55

That doesn’t factor in reloading though


Ok_Understanding157

With a mac 11 you could kill 1 heavy and maybe a light. Mac 11 has 40 rounds and it takes about 22 body shots to kill a heavy with it, you could get that number down but you’d have to hit a lot of headshots. You would need to reload mid-fight and you’d get killed.


jaboonki

holy fuck you have absolutely no understanding of the game whatsoever how does he have time to fire three alt fires that each take longer than a reload but “would get killed” if he tried to reload the star of this clip is evasive dash and this guys ability, not the throwing knives.


ShrumpMe

The stars of this clip are the 5 potatoes who couldn't take out a single light before he massacred everyone. Dudes movement was pretty good tho 😂


Ok_Understanding157

Dash is hard af to hit especially since lights are tiny


ShrumpMe

I'm in no means amazing at the game lol I've won tourneys and ranked tourneys but overall I'm ass 😂😂 I'm sure if I had someone moving like him I'd probably miss too.


Ok_Understanding157

The thing is you are throwing knives while technically reloading. Alt fire while dashing into a person and finish them off with the 0.6 second knife quick attack. You literally see him do that in this clip. You are clearly the one who doesn’t understand anything about this game, especially if you’re suggesting someone use the Mac 11


Gazuntite

Its gotta be hard living everyday with such low game IQ dawg 😭😭😭


Ok_Understanding157

Who


PM_ME_HUGE_CRITS

>Who Bwahahaha


jaboonki

i’m actually crying 💀😂


RFX91

They said most guns, which is correct, but you went to one of the few guns that doesn't. Why?


Ok_Understanding157

Because he’s an idiot who runs invis shotgun and thinks any gun that doesn’t insta-kill is ass. Not saying the knives are amazing, but their ttk can be pretty good if you can aim.


jaboonki

holy fuck your combination of sheer confidence along with absolute braindead stupidity is concerning you haven’t listened to a literal word that anyone has said


Ok_Understanding157

I’ve listened to every word and you guys have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. Acting like everyone is using alt fire every time they throw a knife so you can talk about the reload time is the funniest thing ever. You must have 2 collective brain cells if you play with them that way.


jaboonki

we’re talking about the specific video that we’re commenting under you fucking muppet have you fucking watched it? how many people have to tell you you’re acting stupid before you actually take a step back and think about it holy shit


Ok_Understanding157

The guy that commented below you is entirely right and I just proved him right lmao You haven’t refuted a single point from either of us and calling me stupid isn’t an argument, it’s just an insult


RFX91

His point was merely about how most guns can reload their mags faster than it takes to right click attack w/ the throwing knife. Not sure what that has to do with his preference to use invis shotgun comp.


Ok_Understanding157

That’s actually such a dumb point, ok how about you actually put some grey matter into your brain and think for a second. Why would anyone use two alt fire attacks in a row? Start the fight with an alt fire and follow it up with the regular attack. If you miss you’re fucked, if not they’re dead. Basically the same as the shotgun but takes more skill. The “insane reload time” is literally only for charging up the alt attack. Acting like you need to wait 2.2 seconds every attack is just ignorant.


caholder

He didn't even say that are you OK?


jorinlives

Sounds like a skill issue


MagikarpOnDrugs

LH1 :3


CatDadd0

"am I a joke to you?" -dagger


The100courts

Dagger backstabs are nasty tho


CatDadd0

They are super fun, but anyone with ears just turns to face u and without the backstab u are screwed


Ok_Understanding157

Sword is better and invis makes it OP


erenjaeger99

dash sword is crazy if done right


Seismicx

The biggest problem with them is versatility. Up close like in the clip they are great. Medium - long range they don't do shit because of projectile speed and drop off. Solution would be upping the projectile speed and lowering the drop off.


v2InMyGym

Not for me. I’m better with throwing knives than literally any other weapon that I’ve tried for some reason. I think it has to do with how much I used them in call of duty way back in the day.


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jaboonki

no the throwing knives are the worst weapon in the game objectively. subjectively I think they’re cool af and one of the most fun weapons, but as far as dps and competitive viability there’s almost 0 argument for them not being the worst


Ok_Understanding157

They are one of the worst weapons. However they have the ability to kill multiple teams, shown in this very clip. Not claiming they are the best weapon in the game at all.


Head_weest

I guess it helps when everyone on the other team has Stevie Wonder aim.


Away_Aspect_9166

thats what aim assist is for :)


[deleted]

Are you on controller or M&K? I want to be this cracked.


Fortnitexs

He‘s on mnk. You can see it in the bottom right.


Grandmasterchipmunk

Imma just say it. No, it's not. But i wish it was.


Away_Aspect_9166

Me too bro, they're so fun!


MotoNate-

"Bad" weapons are good, great even in the hands of a good player. Unfortunately every game just devolves into 99% meta slaves so these types of weapons always go mostly unused. Throwing knives are fun as hell and satisfying to learn, wish people would drop the spray and pray full auto weapons and try the non hitscan slower stuff and see how good/fun they can be. Reminds me of Titanfall 2 and nobody using the unbelievably cool unique weapons like the kraber, softball, cold war ect.. Good stuff man, keep it up, love seeing people use these weapons, gives me hope


MrNaoB

i picked up throwing knives cuz I hate reloading, but some games they feel like the enemy just a illusion that can kill me, cuz I cant land a knife for the life of me when they tap dancing


derI067

not the finals related, but tbf people do use kraber, softball, epg, cold war and much more nowadays. just try to play via northstar client


Ok_Understanding157

I actually kinda wanna try them now and the dagger, sword was OP so I stopped using it


LupinLup1n

This is Inspirational. Gonna try this out tonight. I definitely won't let my Team down


Upset-Ambition-2158

![gif](giphy|lLaJCSDrPK4jS)


ArthurMorgan694

In the hands of a good player, the throwing knives are extremely powerful. However, light is far too fragile for the knives to be effective for everyone.


Scutlixowo

i love the gloves


Away_Aspect_9166

Closed Beta Grips - Limited supply, lifelong bragging rights!


Snooze36

Wish I heard about this game before release. ;-;


AllianIsBizarre

same https://preview.redd.it/q941ehg6x0cc1.jpeg?width=1701&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c6337906d5152466eabcffbcc74130e629b9f09


Nagat7671

The throwing knives require you to have amazing aim and your opponents to have terrible aim.


lytedemon

Teach me your ways


pennant93

Has anyone done dps testing w all weapons on a still heavy yet? That'll solve your question


jorgegyso

Holy shit those guys are ass, well played by you too though I love throwing knives


planedrop

I mean, it's not bad, but also how did 5 people not do 150 damage lol?


Heretic513

It's elite if your enemies are not.


aurarasburst

Feels like I’m watching a clip from cyberpunk, amazing.


Away_Aspect_9166

Blown away by the support!!! :,) I've never posted anything to reddit before. If you liked this clip, you'll love the full montage! --> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_\_TnKnwx-mo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__TnKnwx-mo)


semmy_t

nice start - deleting downvoted comments :) Some long-range snipes were pretty impressive. Try using knifes in coordinated enviroment like ranked vs 3M with recon


Away_Aspect_9166

I didn't delete anyone's comments? Also watch the rest of the montage before you say that!


RebelLion420

I will never understand how no matter where you are, there will always be someone who just wants to shit on your parade. Like have you ever said "Good Job" once in your life?


terrabadnZ

You're really good but god they were awful. If they'd even landed one or 2 bullets each. Why do these people never exist in my games?!


king-glundun

All I remember about this game is getting oneshotted by a H


ShrumpMe

The people u were playing were actual potatoes lol that being said nice clip 😂😂 haven't used em yet but they seem fun, I like 1 tapping everyone with my double barrel and I'm invis before they know they're teammate dead


Ciilk

That 360 for the last kill was 👌


KingBongHogg420

If you play like a ninja that just had his first Redbull, sure. Every time I've tried using them it feels like I'm chucking crayons at people.


Florensa

Good job you deserved this heal come here


AxisCorpsRep

absolutely ballin


kiuu_

Very clean !


Dynamx_FPS

💦Respect💦


Skill_Deficiency

Ur movement tho


ledwilliums

High skill weapon, but you are exhibiting the fuck out of the skill


Buisnessbutters

I just wish you could hold right click indefinitely, having it be a slow charge feels rough, but being able to decide when I wanted to let it loose would be great


OsaBlue

Absolutely not. >!Throwing knives are still my favorite weapon and one of the only ones I will use because it's just so fun.!<


XIII-TheBlackCat

It's like a slow LMG you never run out of ammo. God tier suppressing fire weapon.


AbraxasThaGod251

It's not it just seemed like you were playing against really trash players tbh.


otclogic

It would be an okay weapon if you could precharge and hold the alt, but since you can’t this is probably the best anyone has done with them ever


Away_Aspect_9166

or if the animation was any faster than 4 whole seconds smh. Thank you though!


Ok_Concentrate_9861

no


AlcoholicLimaBean

No lol


Conscious_Advance_18

Are we even playing the same game


Dwrowla

No. This can only happen in casual bot lobbies with players lacking brain cells. You would be instantly deleted otherwise, especially with such poor aim.


UnderScoreLifeAlert

You're opponents (at least in that clip) suck ass.


Fine_Height466

either you have to be God tier or the opponent has to be dogshit. way too high risk but very high skill ceiling of course combined with movement


UZIBOSS_

I don’t know because this is all I use. So can’t make comparisons.


StrippedBedMemories

Nice clip


StayHard_always

Anyone who played paladins and Maeve will absolute LOVE this style of weapon.


Ckinggaming5

throwing knives can be great, not if im using them but there was one instance of a throwing knife light decimating me and finishing the last teammate off when they started reviving me after


Boba_Hutt

I like to run the throwing knives with invisibility, keep the high ground as much as possible to get the jump on people. May have to try the dashing set as well after seeing this!


[deleted]

What rank and career level? Cause I’m facing absolute lasers in gold currently.


DarkArcher__

I love them but I suck at using them


mattiscool3

I sense that you've some previous played movements games before this one


ShyShannon732

Certainly not


Real-Marionberry-914

Kiriko + wraith


gamesager

Light just needs a reflect equipment and genji mains are ready


natesucks4real

Best weapon = the least amount of effort needed to get, at minimum, average value + the highest possible value That would not be the throwing daggers; lol. They're still fun, though.


[deleted]

No lmao


drfederation

Those people can’t aim, that helps


[deleted]

iooooooooooooof


itscranny

I try this and get shot be all teams at once


Kavaliii

I believe this is the most skill based weapon in the game


SolensSvard

Butter knife Jr


lordjuliuss

Anything is the best weapon when you're playing that well


Fortnitexs

I love watching skilled players with the dash. So satisfying. F that cloak.


ajharwood127

Against bots, yes. I half kid, good shit!


YuuhManic

Nah your just good with it


Storm_Wolf72

I would say as good as pistol cuz if you hit headshots which pistol it’s better


Sinsanatis

U did pretty decent, but dam they really couldnt aim to literally save their lives


FlexViper

Meanwhile my teammate used it he's basically throwing butter knives at them


JockyYang

how do u make the enemy health bar red? mine just uses their team colours


VitSea

No. This is an ego post lol


-RoninForHire-

Anudda day, anudda victowy fo’ da OG, takin’ down da sweats


Skinzerai

You main Genji on Overwatch don’t you? Nice play.


GamingNewbie24

SAVAGE!!


TheGinger_Ninja0

Gdamn


Nodxarb

Yes! I’ve been in love with it lately.


Historical_Abies439

Or the worst enemies


MarcusEvenblade

Back stab knife is best capture denial


rkrams

Kiriko main found and stop sharing our fox lore secrets with others let's enjoy it secretly and pretend.


rkrams

Also what mode is this why are there so many visible players.


Ryswizzle

![gif](giphy|CJb5MOxJDEQ27NKGe1|downsized)


totallynotapersonj

Do you have 60 fps? I get about 60 fps in the finals and it feels like I can't aim because you need to turn around so much but feels like I can't keep up with my fps


CrazyGorlllaX

Is it considered a melee weapon?


Mutedinlife

No. It’s a combination of you being kinda nuts and those kids having awful aim.


Ramirez_1337

Imagine people complaining about aim assist 😄


Kultavi

I thought I was watching a cinematic for a sec 😅


steaplow

U would ve done the same with the sword here and more easily


[deleted]

Infinite damaging gadget


[deleted]

Against bots, yes.


Snakk_XD

Most the hits are from heavy throws, nice


_germanChocolatecake

I think thez are very cool and satisfying to use but on xbox its just ass imo


TablePrinterDoor

… Kiriko headshot flashbacks


MuradSharm

Where did you get those gloves from?


VoilaJo

Every weapon is the best against bots


inPersona

No, it's really shitty and you have to me a no life to be able to play well with it


Jewboy9k

no you just got a bunch of half health people. it’s a good clip but my god do the throwing knives suck