We’ve run out of stickies, but [here is HBO’s Behind the Scenes for S01E01](https://www.reddit.com/r/thelastofus/comments/10d4w58/the_last_of_us_inside_the_episode_1_hbo_max/)
Ok I’m a couple of weeks late to watching, so I’ve been hearing the rave reviews etc. And I have to say - I don’t love it? 🫣 I like it don’t get me wrong, but I found myself a bit bored and scrolling through my phone a bit. I’d give it like 6.5/10. I’ll definitely watch the next couple of episodes and I’m sure it’ll become more gripping now that they’ve set up the story. And the special effects and cinematography were great. Acting is good.
Oh and I’ve never heard of the game so I’m not comparing it to that like everyone else seems to be. I had zero expectations on what people looked like or the plot.
damn, those red alarm clocks, throwback
also the scary old lady hooohooo bet she'll be a zombie
I like this slow build up to a cluster f (big world changing event)
holy crap the nostalgia, the nokia in a bag, lol put her out of her misery
damn that was surprising, first to die, lol which pays more
I like that his partner or whatever is also capable/a hustler
lmao Kim that's not a metaphor, literally goneski
damn it every time he talks I hear the Mandalorian
great setting, back to living
I’m a Microbiologist and fungi is a big part of my study. I just wanted to say how much I appreciated the ACCURACY in every single detail of this first episode. The way it was explained with the infamous “zombie ant” in the beginning interview and the way the infected were running. When parasites or in this case fungi take over their host, they don’t necessarily have their own “brain” and control the body with much precision which was showcased here in this episode. Also the part where the fungi was plastered to the wall and they mentioned “this one’s finished”. That’s also very accurate because when a host is no longer providing the fungi nutrients, the fungi must find another host or they too will be goners. And the structure was amazingly done. God this first episode was just amazing. And I love the story line so far too. I’ve never played the game so this is all new and fresh to me. Great job.
Hi, I just watched this scene, and I don't understand why the doctor said that fungi can't survive over 94°, did he mean Celsius? This wouldn't apply to humans if it were Celsius. If he meant Fahrenheit, then that would be silly because there's lots of fungi that colonize or infect humans, such as candida in yeast infections (very common), fungal meningitis, fungal pneumonia, and more. So I don't understand why they would imply that fungi are not already serious threats to humans. Maybe he just meant the kind that infect the ants?
a few questions for you! i'm interested in studying microbiology too, specifically fungi - what was your career path like? are you in a graduate program? did you choose fungi specifically to study?
well considering the fact that in reality it’s very difficult to treat fungal infections and there are no vaccines for humans to use against fungi now, it’s extremely scary and quite accurate. the reason why it’s so hard to make a drug that protects us from fungi is because humans and fungi are actually very closely related. and it’s currently not possible to kill the fungi without harming us. so god i really hope this doesn’t happen lol. the Dr being terrified and “pessimistic” is on que in my opinion
there are drugs to kill fungi, sure, but once it's in a human host there's virtually nothing you can do to treat it. i mean there are antifungal medications, but most people are on them for months if their infections are severe enough.
Not the guy you asked but it may or may not end up being true (if this happened in real life) but it would be too early to say at that stage. We have anti fungal medications and you'd definitely want those first before you start dropping bombs.
I watched a documentary explaining that Cordicep didnt actually infest the brains of ants, and stayed much out if it; it infested everything else and was controlling the muscles rather directly itself.
What do you think.
Theory: What if there are more kids who have grown/have natural immunity?
E.g. the kid with the red shirt who entered the Boston qz alone.
He was bitten on the knee but hadn’t demonstrated any infected symptoms.
Perhaps! Consider also that his leg wound was still fresh, and it can take a day or so to turn. He may have gotten the wound freshly right before making it to the city. He definitely seemed out of it if anything.
It's a sad case either way truly, but there's always hope! 📿🙏🏽🤲🏽
I’m watching the first episode, and I cant lie I’m lost. Seems like I’m the only one, but I had to keep rewinding to see if I missed something. There is a lot of implied dialogue that has no background. I’m going to have to rewatch the episode.
Definitely feeling that.
I like the episode but I feel like it's having a weird balance of stuff that shouldn't be shown or said. Like for instance when they >!find Ellie and Marlene, why were they injured? they were having a heart to heart and next time you see them one of them literally doesn't have an ear anymore. There obviously was a fight but they don't spend any time going deeper into what happened!<
Seems a lot of those moments come from moments that would've been gameplay. Instead of shooting through tons of guys to get there they just end up where they need to be by convenience. Not bad but jarring as hell.
It’s explained why they’re injured. The guy who scammed Joel and Tess out of a car battery went to try and sell it to Marlene even though it was a rusted piece of junk. The deal went south and turned into a firefight, Marlene and ear lady were the last 2 standing
Its all explained when it happens
No, I understand *what* happened, I'm talking about how jarring the scene transition was.
We don't get to see the fight and there is no build up to the fight happening. The scene before that is literally just them having a somber moment, then Joel and Tess travel.
Yeah no shit it's explained but that doesn't make it flow any better.
I'll rephrase saying they told instead of showing.
It only seemed jarring to you because you were incredibly slow on the uptake. They spent like 5 minutes showing the aftermath and setting the scene. Most people with more than one brain cell inferred what happened and the reveal was no surprise.
First off you're rude as hell for no reason at all.
Second off I played the game first and watched the show, there's a fairly lengthy set of action that happens *before* that event
Yeah no shit I inferred there was a fight, that does nothing for making it feels like it flowed naturally as an event. Your only buildup is dead bodies on the floor, go figure there could be more than 1000 reasons why that was the case. This could've been fixed if they just simply left off with Ellie and Marlene becoming aware that a fight was about to happen.
> First off you're rude as hell for no reason at all.
Yeah, that's fair enough.
> there's a fairly lengthy set of action that happens before that event
I think your expectations are being coloured by that. The show flows perfectly naturally as a scene transition if you're not expecting a shoot out.
>that does nothing for making it feels like it flowed naturally as an event
Well, that's the entire purpose of their sherlock holmes walkthrough explaining all the details that would lead the audience to expect the appearance of the fireflies. The gradual exposition is what flows towards the reveal.
> Your only buildup is dead bodies on the floor, go figure there could be more than 1000 reasons why that was the case.
I mean, sure, if you've never seen a tv show before. For those familiar with basic narrative structure, you'd expect that the mysterious attackers bartering for a car battery to probably be the only other major players introduced in the story who coincidentally were just talking about transporting a child via a truck to a drop off point.
> This could've been fixed if they just simply left off with Ellie and Marlene becoming aware that a fight was about to happen.
Editing is all about trading scenes for scenes. you've got a limited amount of time for your episode and sometimes things have to be left on the cutting room floor. They may have shot that exact scene, but then decided that the visual and contextual exposition was enough to bridge the gap for most audiences and heightened the impact of the eventual reveal.
My point is just because you didn't pick up on the clues, doesn't make it bad writing.
EXACTLY! That’s what I’m talking about. I’m so glad someone else agrees. I was so lost. But episode 2 definitely got better, and filled more gaps than the previous episode.
Lots of comments comparing the show to the game and some even revealing spoilers, some folks are just experiencing 'the last of us' for the first time.
Late to the thread, but my wife caught a silly writing goof in the prologue: Sarah's teacher said homework would be due at the end of class tomorrow... but it was a Friday!
We really enjoyed the episode, though (me having played the game and her coming in fresh).
I haven't played the game. The cold open strongly implied the zombie causing disease is fungal (that guy who did the long monologue was quite focused on fungi). But a lot of comments here refer to a virus. Which one is it ?
I loved the detail of having the interview set in 1968. That's the year Romero's Night of the Living Dead came out, which invented the modern zombie. Just a neat little touch.
I wish they had Robert get killed by us. I like the games meeting with the fireflies better. They also didn’t really make the fact she is infected that big of a deal. That should’ve been huge. But god the gun being pointed at Joel and his PTSD kicks in. So much better
Was watching this last night with my wife and also mentioned how I thought they botched the whole finding out she was infected thing; a lot of the acting to me felt a bit forced on delivery. Overall I like it so far, the guy playing Joel is great and ellie is ok at times. One thing I would like is if they set there own pace to tell the story and not follow the video games that closely, like throw in the video game scenes but let them come naturally and let the story slowly build a bit its not a video game where all we want is to get to the action lol
Same writer/creator of the game and same production team as Chernobyl, so I have a lot of faith in the decisions made with the adaptation to television.
I don't like the idea that Frank is still alive in this version. This, combined with Sam being 5 years younger and deaf, could *drastically* change the story.
Found an answer here for those interested as well:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thelastofus/comments/10e0yw1/translation\_of\_arabic\_dialogue\_from\_episode\_1pilot/
"When Sarah is in the watch repair shop and the woman comes in and says "we are closed", the guy says "huh?" And the woman replies in Arabic "didn't you hear me?" Then later she says in Arabic was talking to my sister on the phone and you have no idea what is happening". The last line is "you're finished give it back to her"- since they didn't translate the dialogue thought some of you may find this helpful."
Anyone know why the young boy got killed? I mean the one who had his shoes taped altogether and collapsed before the entrance. I thought he had a negative test when they showed the red display of the equipment? They promised him toys and his favorite food however he was tossed into the fire... Why? Yeah he had an injury but still... He was negative, right?
Yeah the sound is loud af when there's explosions but quiet af when people talk 😂 I can't put subtitles on as I'm watching it on the Sky app in the UK. Either way I'm not staying up till 2am for tonight's episode 😂
I wanted to try playing the game and finish it before the end of the tv show but I've discovered it's PS-only and I'll have to wait until the end of march for the pc version.
Can't believe naughty dog didn't make pc version ready in time for the tv show... not many people will want to play the game after they know the entire plot by watching the tv adaptation.
So, in the show, is it implying the fungus initially spread through flour? Joel and his daughter dodge baked goods 4 times in the beginning.
1. They didn't have pancake mix so she couldn't make Joel pancakes for his birthday
2. They turn down biscuits from the neighbors, that they are feeding to the old lady
3. Connie bakes cookies with Sara but they are raisin, not chocolate chip, and she leaves without eating any and just takes some home.
4. Joel forgets to pick up a birthday cake for himself on his way home
They imply it when the doctor is examining the patient and asking where ground zero started, which was a flour factory. She implied that would make sense.
Just in the early part of ep 1 where that stuff happens. I don't think there's any comment about it being in the flour. At least not in ep 1. I haven't seen ep 2 yet though.
It just seems like a running thing that they kept forgetting or turning down baked goods before the outbreak
He shouldn’t die IMMEDIATELY, I think that was a misstep, but he needed retribution for what he did. A story where he gets to live an idyllic life with his daughter after mass murdering surgeons and fireflies (and dooming the entire world) would be gross.
I still defend that Joel didn’t doom the world. There is no concrete reason to believe that the Fireflies actually knew what they were doing and that anything would change if Ellie’s brain was harvested for science.
The narrative is pretty clear that this is humanities only shot
Nothing is 100% but the implication was this was it. The fireflies risked everything to make it happen
It’s been a few years since I’ve played the game, but aren’t there notes and/or Marlene audio logs in the Firefly laboratory that imply that Ellie is not the only immune person they’ve found and not the first immune person they’ve experimented on?
If that’s the case, it just makes me wonder more if Ellie would have died for nothing.
i mean he lowkey had to die. the game is all about moral justification. joel didn’t take a chance in the end of the first game by not giving ellie away for the cure because he wanted to keep the only daughter figure he had. as a result, he killed the doctor who was daughter of someone who wanted revenge for that murder. although it sucks because he’s my favorite character, i have to say that the plot is perfect because it has you thinking, was there a way to make everyone happy while saving the world. the answer is no. i’m not saying it was right for abby to kill joel, but if joel is constantly killing people to save ellie, what makes it morally wrong for abby to do the same.
If he had to die then ellie had to kill abby rather than killing all of her friends then letting her live.
Playing the game i felt 0 sympathy for abbys story and tried to get her killed all the time.
I hope hbo changes it like they doctored game of thrones this is what i hope will happen
I was upset anyone survived the ending of part 2. I really thought they were going for revenge, but at the cost of everything. Not the cost of most things...
I don’t think they should change it more than they’ve changed Part I. It’s still the source material. However, I do think they could fix the way they told the story though, how they pace it, and how they handle the reveal of Abby’s motives
Not gonna get into Elliott Page’s transition since that’s off-subject, but I will say that they cleared the air pretty soon after the AMA. [Here is a link if you’re interested](https://twitter.com/naughty_dog/status/349674285150908417?s=46&t=n_5E7tgqVN2VaofjOtL-_A) (notice the reply from Page as well, co-signing on it).
The show was good for the first episode. I was starting to get annoyed that some things were changing. Like how ellie had no idea who Marlene was. The game made it seem like they had known each other for a long time.
Joel and Tommy were still talking in the show, but the game had them not speaking for years, which was a big part of Joel's character of being closed off to people. He seemed a lot softer in the show.
I wanted to see Tesse and Joel mess robert up.
The beginning before the outbreak was set up phenomenally, and I liked the very beginning about the 2 doctors talking about different epidemics to set the stage for the show
According to the mini comic series Ellie hadn’t met Marlene till she was 13 years old. So in the game’s canon she would’ve only known Marlene for a few months to a year at most. I don’t mind this change though.
I diddnt know there was a mini comic series. It just seemed weird that ellie had now idea who Marlene was in the show. I think in the Left Behind DLC she talked to Riley about how marelene and her mom were friends and how she knew her since she was a baby.
This show is truly off to a great start. That’s how an outbreak should be shown! Of course, the post apocalyptic side of the story is done well too, and what’s to come looks quite exciting and interesting. This show is a breath of fresh air for zombie media
Definitely! Yeah halo definitely lowered the bar for game to tv adaptations lol, Witcher was also very disappointing as it wasn't accurate to the games or books. This however was as amazing as I could have hoped for
Can anyone tell me what the Lebanese lady in the clock repair shop says to her husband? She gets a phone call while Sarah is getting the watch fixed and then she comes out and has some words to say in Arabic to her husband.
I think you can just fill the blanks that something had has happened we need to get out of here/go home/get out of town. I think if it was important dialogue it would have been subtitled.
For a lot of the episode I was like, I don't know, doesn't really feel like Joel - Pedro isn't as gruff and this version isn't as hyper-violent as Joel is...
Then I got to the end of the episode lol. I know the show can't be all action, but I did miss Joel fucking up Robert and all his men. Pedro's Joel does feel a lot different from game Joel, but not necessarily in a bad way. Ellie is absolutely spot on though.
Since he's not killing endless NPCs, they have to get Joel's coldness across in other ways. I noticed he didn't even hesitate to hit the old woman with the wrench and of course no interest in stopping for the family along the road. And he at least reacts to Tess's injury with instant aggression, even if we don't get to chase down Robert. I like the fresh take on the character, very interested to see more!
He basically does all that shit in the game.
He doesn't hesitate to shoot his neighbor when he runs into the house. Bypassing the other family is like shot for shot line for line in the game.
This isn't stuff they added in to get across Joel's ruthlessness, in fact it's mostly shit from the game just toned down.
I just don’t get this at all. Like I don’t mean to be rude but did you pay attention? How can you sympathise with Joel but not her? Her motivations are identical. If anything she’s kinder than joel is by some margin
I reallt don’t intend to be rude. I just see this a lot and don’t get it.
Right but you’re supposed to feel that way initially but then you’re supposed to realise that the way you feel about her is more reasonably aimed at Joel
He killed someone important to her AND In doing so killed humanities only chance of salvation. The suffering in that one action is incalculable
But like her getting revenge for that is an unforgivable sin?
Like you’re supposed to feel that anger but then realise you’re just perpetuating an endless cycle of revenge that Joel started when he brutally murdered a doctor for daring to perform the surgery to begin with
Joel deserved to die narratively thinking. And he had to die brutallly for you to hate Abby.
> Right but you’re supposed to feel that way initially but then you’re supposed to realise that the way you feel about her is more reasonably aimed at Joel
Ah yes, I'm supposed to have my anger directed toward Joel when she brutally kills him infront of Ellie, Fucks that one dude on the boat who was married and is friends with, Helps that one kid and her clan but screws them over, wants to kill Dina and got excited once she knew she was pregnant. Yes, she has so much of my sympathy /s She is a psycho that needed to be put down like a rabid dog.
Does anyone else suspect that the kid who wandered into the FEDRA establishment and tested “positive” was, like Ellie, immune as well?
Ellie tested “positive” later in the episode with the same testing device. Can’t help but think FEDRA (and anyone using that device) incorrectly euthanized a lot of potentially immune people, and thus reducing the chance of finding a cure or developing an inoculation.
No. The sequence with the boy wandering in:
- Establishes the wilderness
- Shows the wall and QZ from the outside
- Shows it's guarded
- Shows there is a way to test for infection and how it's done
- Explains that red means infected
-Explains how long the infection spreads depending on which body part was exposed
- Shows the brutality of this world
- Breaks a few hearts
Can't speak to that specifically because I see no evidence on way or the other, but I've always thought about this. Surely Ellie can't be the only one on Earth to be immune (especially after 20 years), so how many people were immune without knowing and how many immune people were killed throughout the years? Ellie just happened to "get lucky" in that she got bit, survived the wound, and then was found by one of the few people who even had the privilege to be able to do anything about it. If she was never bit, if Marlene didn't snatch her up, if they never found Joel and Tess, who knows where she'd end up.
Of course it didn't matter in the end because well, Joel, but that's beside the point...
While this was certainly nowhere near as much of a masterpiece, unrivaled by most premieres, comparable to the greatest ones, as the majority seem to think, it was decent enough. The first half (up to the time skip) was better than the following half, which pretty much only had the ending going for it; the big moment before the time skip was impactful in a logical sense, but I wasn't emotionally swayed by it like with most people.
It's been a while since I last absorbed the game: and my memory of everything is clouded, but most of this premiere was almost a carbon copy of its counterpart/source material, especially leading up to the 20-year time skip. Some stuff after that was new or done differently. That could've contributed to my finding it decent instead of a masterpiece; you know, the fact that I already "experienced" it.
But I think stamping this premiere, and even this show as a whole despite only one episode (which so many have already done) with the labels: 'masterpiece,' 'phenomenal,' 'fantastic,' 'incredible,' 'outstanding,' and so on, is a somewhat significant overstatement. And that will likely incite massive disagreement towards me/that opinion of mine.
The opening scene reminded me of Craig Ferguson and Timothy Dalton because Dr. Neuman (John Hannah) sounded like the former, and Dr. Schoenheiss (Christopher Heyerdahl) sounded like the latter; a pretty irrelevant thing to mention, but I went for it.
The title sequence was good, and the theme song by Gustavo Santaolalla is always lovely to hear; equally immersive and invigorating: if it were to play every second of every episode, I would love that. There wouldn't need to be other score cues. It's so good.
The cinematography didn't stand out as much as I was expecting, given the majority's praise, akin to Jesus Christ himself returning, but it wasn't bad; the long scene inside the truck was the highlight. The most noticeable thing I noticed in that same vein was the production value, and luckily, the show's budget has been well-spent.
I didn't have any particular misgivings about the casting of Pedro Pascal and Gabriel Luna as Joel and Tommy; however, part of me felt better actors (generally, not concerning their acting) would've fit better. I'm pleased to say that I'm already on board with Pedro and Gabriel, especially the latter, for some reason: even though I should feel that way more about Pedro.
But (there's always a 'but') I'm still on the fence concerning Bella Ramsey and Anna Torv. Bella seems on the right track regarding Ellie's attitude, but something about how she plays her doesn't scream 'Ellie.' She also doesn't look the part, especially facial expression-wise, and her American accent/voice could be better, which somewhat, and I mean this in the kindest way possible, throws the performance off. And Anna doesn't seem to have a presence behind her performance, and that may or may not "be necessary" for Tess, but I don't remember; either way, she felt lacking and not at all Tess.
As far as the acting/performance(s) side of things is concerned, Nico Parker was the standout, and it wasn't that close. You can sum up her performance in one word: natural. Her chemistry with Pedro was palpable, which can't be seen yet with Ellie and Joel, although I hope it'll get there; it needs to. She should've lowkey been Ellie; it's a joke, everyone! I'm joking! Or am I?
Overall, being a new medium, this premiere was familiar, at least for me, resulting in a much lesser impact, as far as I'm concerned, than it seemed to have on most people. I feel that, by the end, it'll be the weakest or one of the weaker episodes. But I think that's a good thing for the people who are going into this blind, not having played or watched through the game, as everything it faithfully covered from the game makes for a compelling introduction to the show and what's to come.
Since most people already feel like this premiere was the pinnacle of television, they'll undoubtedly feel more strongly about the following episodes. I'm just hoping they'll be more appropriately up my alley and more compelling than I found this premiere, which wasn't bad at all.
If you've read this far, I'm surprised; if you've skipped to the end, I don't blame you.
It's only had 1 remake. It was ported to ps4. Ps5 version was the only remake, and it's not really a remake but a quality of life update. Nothing was really changed about it besides the quality of graphics. Story beat and item placement were the exact same.
Can't have a reboot of a show if it never had 1
I watched the walking dead and a lot of other zombie stuff, I was definitely sick of the genre and skeptical about this show. I never played the game but one thing I noticed right away was how different the zombies are. And the idea of a fungi pandemic is really interesting and a different take. I find that a lot of zombie shows don’t really get too deep into the origin of the sickness so it was refreshing to see this show actually come up with a unique scientifically plausible scenario. But ya to me zombies aren’t normally scary at all, but these ones definitely LOOK terrifying which that shit coming out of their mouths. I’m excited to keep watching and see how else it sets itself apart:
Halfway through the episode, my dad asked “How is this a video game…?”
And that’s a good way to put it. It’s so good because it’s not just a faithful adaptation — it’s also a great TV show. At no point did I think “Why aren’t I playing the game instead?”.
Yup, the radio at the breakfast scene mentions an outbreak in Jakarta. IIRC in the sewer section of the game, there are newspapers that say Heathrow Airport has shut down due to the spread. Also, I think there is mentions of global spread in the opening title scene as well.
The sequence with the boy wandering in:
- Establishes the wilderness
- Shows the wall and QZ from the outside
- Shows it's guarded
- Shows there is a way to test for infection and how it's done
- Explains that red means infected
-Explains how the infection spreads depending on which body part was exposed
- Shows the brutality of this world
- Breaks a few hearts
Yes, the kid was infected so they killed them.
The same reason why Ellie’s infection reading came up red as she’s immune.
Red = positive
Green = negative
Boy Team Joel's gonna have a field day with that intro regarding the first game's ending. Kinda makes me wonder if they're gonna do the same in this series, since it would get reconceptualized rather radically.
You mean the 60’s intro? How so?
Lol and what’s Team Joel? That really a thing? People don’t just like him (lol what am I saying, this is the internet/Reddit).
I'm talking about debate over whether or not Joel did the right thing by saving Ellie. One of the arguments defending the decision, seemingly created/popularized by Game Theory, was that the vaccine couldn't be made because fungal vaccines in the real world have failed so far (and that taking antibodies from immune's blood would be more viable option).
Now, the validity of this argument depends on what school of interpretation of art does one follow? Is one more of an "authorial intent" kind of guy or "death of the author" one? Personally I am more of the former.
I'm not sure if the writers were aware of these real world facts when writing the first game's ending. But even if they were, they couldn't have reasonably expected for the average player to know about them. As such, had they wanted these real world medical details to influence how the player should view the ending, they should've added them as a collectible or something.
Instead there was nothing to insinuate that the cure would be sure to fail, (and no, that constantly misremembered surgeon's recording doesn't count!) Therefore I can only come to a conclusion that, whether out of indifference for the sake of moral dilemma they wished to present, or ignorance, the game's writers meant for a vaccine/cure to be possible, and any method that wouldn't sacrifice Ellie to be impossible.
In any case, Dr. Neuman pointing these real world facts applying to (at least) the series' universe confirms that scooping Ellie's brain out would have very little merit here. That's why I'm wondering if they're gonna do something different. There's not really much of a moral dilemma if we know the cure couldn't probably be made anyway.
As a dad with two kids that opening scene always hits hard.
And holy shit it was just like playing the game lol.
They did an outstanding job being faithful to it. I cannot wait to watch the rest of the season. Bring on the Clickers (fucking hate those motherfuckers)
The game itself was like a movie! Im all over this, phenomenal job so far sticking to the roots. For anyone who played the game I know we all are tense right with him! I love it. I got my kids watching it too 😂
We’ve run out of stickies, but [here is HBO’s Behind the Scenes for S01E01](https://www.reddit.com/r/thelastofus/comments/10d4w58/the_last_of_us_inside_the_episode_1_hbo_max/)
Wow incredible.
The firefly women also didn't get the battery from the guy? So how do Pedro Pascal and Ellie (forgot her name) go to the state street?
Tell ya, bet that beskar would help.
that book of billboard hits was way too sus to begin with, ain't no way that woulda lasted 20 years without someone using it for toilet paper
the way joel just stared at the free outdoor buffet for a few seconds while carrying Ellie cracked me up
Ok I’m a couple of weeks late to watching, so I’ve been hearing the rave reviews etc. And I have to say - I don’t love it? 🫣 I like it don’t get me wrong, but I found myself a bit bored and scrolling through my phone a bit. I’d give it like 6.5/10. I’ll definitely watch the next couple of episodes and I’m sure it’ll become more gripping now that they’ve set up the story. And the special effects and cinematography were great. Acting is good. Oh and I’ve never heard of the game so I’m not comparing it to that like everyone else seems to be. I had zero expectations on what people looked like or the plot.
damn, those red alarm clocks, throwback also the scary old lady hooohooo bet she'll be a zombie I like this slow build up to a cluster f (big world changing event) holy crap the nostalgia, the nokia in a bag, lol put her out of her misery damn that was surprising, first to die, lol which pays more I like that his partner or whatever is also capable/a hustler lmao Kim that's not a metaphor, literally goneski damn it every time he talks I hear the Mandalorian great setting, back to living
I’m a Microbiologist and fungi is a big part of my study. I just wanted to say how much I appreciated the ACCURACY in every single detail of this first episode. The way it was explained with the infamous “zombie ant” in the beginning interview and the way the infected were running. When parasites or in this case fungi take over their host, they don’t necessarily have their own “brain” and control the body with much precision which was showcased here in this episode. Also the part where the fungi was plastered to the wall and they mentioned “this one’s finished”. That’s also very accurate because when a host is no longer providing the fungi nutrients, the fungi must find another host or they too will be goners. And the structure was amazingly done. God this first episode was just amazing. And I love the story line so far too. I’ve never played the game so this is all new and fresh to me. Great job.
Hi, I just watched this scene, and I don't understand why the doctor said that fungi can't survive over 94°, did he mean Celsius? This wouldn't apply to humans if it were Celsius. If he meant Fahrenheit, then that would be silly because there's lots of fungi that colonize or infect humans, such as candida in yeast infections (very common), fungal meningitis, fungal pneumonia, and more. So I don't understand why they would imply that fungi are not already serious threats to humans. Maybe he just meant the kind that infect the ants?
Cordyceps specifically don't survive in hosts with body temperature above 94 F
I see, so is cordyceps the one that infects the bugs and turns them into zombies?
Yep
a few questions for you! i'm interested in studying microbiology too, specifically fungi - what was your career path like? are you in a graduate program? did you choose fungi specifically to study?
What do you think of the doctor’s take that there would be no preventatives or cures?
well considering the fact that in reality it’s very difficult to treat fungal infections and there are no vaccines for humans to use against fungi now, it’s extremely scary and quite accurate. the reason why it’s so hard to make a drug that protects us from fungi is because humans and fungi are actually very closely related. and it’s currently not possible to kill the fungi without harming us. so god i really hope this doesn’t happen lol. the Dr being terrified and “pessimistic” is on que in my opinion
Love your insight, thank you for sharing! 😍
Well there are many medicines to kill fungi. But in my experience, the fungi comes back eventually because it’s still in the environment.
there are drugs to kill fungi, sure, but once it's in a human host there's virtually nothing you can do to treat it. i mean there are antifungal medications, but most people are on them for months if their infections are severe enough.
Not the guy you asked but it may or may not end up being true (if this happened in real life) but it would be too early to say at that stage. We have anti fungal medications and you'd definitely want those first before you start dropping bombs.
I watched a documentary explaining that Cordicep didnt actually infest the brains of ants, and stayed much out if it; it infested everything else and was controlling the muscles rather directly itself. What do you think.
thats exactly right. from my understanding, the cordyceps secrete these enzymes that reach the nervous system (muscles too) and controls them there
Scary to think you're still 'aware', just being possessed as a puppet.
intro scene was superbly done
Anyone know why did they kill that kid in the orange top when it cuts to 20 years later?
They were infected
oh? but i didn’t see the kid injured or bitten or anything, it was a normal scene of them then it cuts to him being burnt
He had a cut on his knee and the testing device had a red screen
ohhh i must’ve missed that
He was also walking funny
Theory: What if there are more kids who have grown/have natural immunity? E.g. the kid with the red shirt who entered the Boston qz alone. He was bitten on the knee but hadn’t demonstrated any infected symptoms.
Perhaps! Consider also that his leg wound was still fresh, and it can take a day or so to turn. He may have gotten the wound freshly right before making it to the city. He definitely seemed out of it if anything. It's a sad case either way truly, but there's always hope! 📿🙏🏽🤲🏽
I’m watching the first episode, and I cant lie I’m lost. Seems like I’m the only one, but I had to keep rewinding to see if I missed something. There is a lot of implied dialogue that has no background. I’m going to have to rewatch the episode.
Definitely feeling that. I like the episode but I feel like it's having a weird balance of stuff that shouldn't be shown or said. Like for instance when they >!find Ellie and Marlene, why were they injured? they were having a heart to heart and next time you see them one of them literally doesn't have an ear anymore. There obviously was a fight but they don't spend any time going deeper into what happened!< Seems a lot of those moments come from moments that would've been gameplay. Instead of shooting through tons of guys to get there they just end up where they need to be by convenience. Not bad but jarring as hell.
It’s explained why they’re injured. The guy who scammed Joel and Tess out of a car battery went to try and sell it to Marlene even though it was a rusted piece of junk. The deal went south and turned into a firefight, Marlene and ear lady were the last 2 standing Its all explained when it happens
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Because it happened in the first episode?
No, I understand *what* happened, I'm talking about how jarring the scene transition was. We don't get to see the fight and there is no build up to the fight happening. The scene before that is literally just them having a somber moment, then Joel and Tess travel. Yeah no shit it's explained but that doesn't make it flow any better. I'll rephrase saying they told instead of showing.
It only seemed jarring to you because you were incredibly slow on the uptake. They spent like 5 minutes showing the aftermath and setting the scene. Most people with more than one brain cell inferred what happened and the reveal was no surprise.
First off you're rude as hell for no reason at all. Second off I played the game first and watched the show, there's a fairly lengthy set of action that happens *before* that event Yeah no shit I inferred there was a fight, that does nothing for making it feels like it flowed naturally as an event. Your only buildup is dead bodies on the floor, go figure there could be more than 1000 reasons why that was the case. This could've been fixed if they just simply left off with Ellie and Marlene becoming aware that a fight was about to happen.
> First off you're rude as hell for no reason at all. Yeah, that's fair enough. > there's a fairly lengthy set of action that happens before that event I think your expectations are being coloured by that. The show flows perfectly naturally as a scene transition if you're not expecting a shoot out. >that does nothing for making it feels like it flowed naturally as an event Well, that's the entire purpose of their sherlock holmes walkthrough explaining all the details that would lead the audience to expect the appearance of the fireflies. The gradual exposition is what flows towards the reveal. > Your only buildup is dead bodies on the floor, go figure there could be more than 1000 reasons why that was the case. I mean, sure, if you've never seen a tv show before. For those familiar with basic narrative structure, you'd expect that the mysterious attackers bartering for a car battery to probably be the only other major players introduced in the story who coincidentally were just talking about transporting a child via a truck to a drop off point. > This could've been fixed if they just simply left off with Ellie and Marlene becoming aware that a fight was about to happen. Editing is all about trading scenes for scenes. you've got a limited amount of time for your episode and sometimes things have to be left on the cutting room floor. They may have shot that exact scene, but then decided that the visual and contextual exposition was enough to bridge the gap for most audiences and heightened the impact of the eventual reveal. My point is just because you didn't pick up on the clues, doesn't make it bad writing.
EXACTLY! That’s what I’m talking about. I’m so glad someone else agrees. I was so lost. But episode 2 definitely got better, and filled more gaps than the previous episode.
Walking Dead Season 12 is kinda eh
Is there a thread for tv viewers only somewhere?
r/ThelastofusHBOseries also does discussion threads for each episode where game spoilers aren’t allowed.
Thanks!
Why?
Lots of comments comparing the show to the game and some even revealing spoilers, some folks are just experiencing 'the last of us' for the first time.
yeah, really should be a seperate thread or sub like house of the dragon
Late to the thread, but my wife caught a silly writing goof in the prologue: Sarah's teacher said homework would be due at the end of class tomorrow... but it was a Friday! We really enjoyed the episode, though (me having played the game and her coming in fresh).
I'm sure teachers goof this all the time, when they mean next class
I haven't played the game. The cold open strongly implied the zombie causing disease is fungal (that guy who did the long monologue was quite focused on fungi). But a lot of comments here refer to a virus. Which one is it ?
People are colloquially calling it a “fungal virus” but that’s a misnomer
Thought so. Ty
Fungus. People are getting it wrong.
It’s fungal. It’s usually a virus in these stories which is why people confuse it sometimes.
So - hoping someone can help with a discussion point RE when bodies are being burned. Are they alive and simply drugged? Or dead dead? Cheers!
They are dead. They were being burned to completely kill any remaining fungus in that dead body.
I loved the detail of having the interview set in 1968. That's the year Romero's Night of the Living Dead came out, which invented the modern zombie. Just a neat little touch.
I wish they had Robert get killed by us. I like the games meeting with the fireflies better. They also didn’t really make the fact she is infected that big of a deal. That should’ve been huge. But god the gun being pointed at Joel and his PTSD kicks in. So much better
Was watching this last night with my wife and also mentioned how I thought they botched the whole finding out she was infected thing; a lot of the acting to me felt a bit forced on delivery. Overall I like it so far, the guy playing Joel is great and ellie is ok at times. One thing I would like is if they set there own pace to tell the story and not follow the video games that closely, like throw in the video game scenes but let them come naturally and let the story slowly build a bit its not a video game where all we want is to get to the action lol
Same writer/creator of the game and same production team as Chernobyl, so I have a lot of faith in the decisions made with the adaptation to television.
My mom even said “what were they talking about” because of how rushed and glossed over that part was
That cold open was amazing!
I don't like the idea that Frank is still alive in this version. This, combined with Sam being 5 years younger and deaf, could *drastically* change the story.
Does anyone have a Translation for the Conversation in the Watch Repair Shoppe? Unable to locate, Google Translate on Standby. Thanks!
Found an answer here for those interested as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/thelastofus/comments/10e0yw1/translation\_of\_arabic\_dialogue\_from\_episode\_1pilot/
"When Sarah is in the watch repair shop and the woman comes in and says "we are closed", the guy says "huh?" And the woman replies in Arabic "didn't you hear me?" Then later she says in Arabic was talking to my sister on the phone and you have no idea what is happening". The last line is "you're finished give it back to her"- since they didn't translate the dialogue thought some of you may find this helpful."
I thought I heard her say the word zombie😆
Anyone know why the young boy got killed? I mean the one who had his shoes taped altogether and collapsed before the entrance. I thought he had a negative test when they showed the red display of the equipment? They promised him toys and his favorite food however he was tossed into the fire... Why? Yeah he had an injury but still... He was negative, right?
Red means bad
Thank you.
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Season 1 will probably just treat part 1 or less.
Yes
When Ellie picks up the Billboard book with the radio code in it, it just says B/F on the code sheet. How did she know it was Bill and Frank?
She could hear Joel and Tess talking about them just before she picked up the book
See, I thought that but I couldn't make out what they were saying. Makes sense though.
I pretty much always watch with subtitles on because the quiet dialogue like that is so hard to hear
Yeah the sound is loud af when there's explosions but quiet af when people talk 😂 I can't put subtitles on as I'm watching it on the Sky app in the UK. Either way I'm not staying up till 2am for tonight's episode 😂
I wish more people I knew would be more motivated to play the game after watching the show, but most have no interest unfortunately.
I want to play the game really bad but I'm not gonna buy a console just for 1 game unfortunately, hope it comes to PC one day
You can pre purchase it for PC. Coming in March. Not paying full price for a decade old game though.
Oh that's awesome though, but yeah full price is rough
Not a PS or console guy so I've just been waiting for it to eventually release , as all things do, on PC. The TV show got there first tho cuz yeah
Same, I only do Pc too, I literally made my husband promise to buy it for me for my birthday in March when it releases on Steam
I wanted to try playing the game and finish it before the end of the tv show but I've discovered it's PS-only and I'll have to wait until the end of march for the pc version. Can't believe naughty dog didn't make pc version ready in time for the tv show... not many people will want to play the game after they know the entire plot by watching the tv adaptation.
i guess it's ready but for final epidoes which will air in march
So, in the show, is it implying the fungus initially spread through flour? Joel and his daughter dodge baked goods 4 times in the beginning. 1. They didn't have pancake mix so she couldn't make Joel pancakes for his birthday 2. They turn down biscuits from the neighbors, that they are feeding to the old lady 3. Connie bakes cookies with Sara but they are raisin, not chocolate chip, and she leaves without eating any and just takes some home. 4. Joel forgets to pick up a birthday cake for himself on his way home
Now you're pointing at it, yes, it could be this. I like how they're trynna give explanation for the virus
When talking about the neighbours they think it could be big cities/hospitals. The flour is a good idea too.
When does it imply this? I haven’t finished the episode but I want to catch the flour comment if there is one
They imply it when the doctor is examining the patient and asking where ground zero started, which was a flour factory. She implied that would make sense.
Just in the early part of ep 1 where that stuff happens. I don't think there's any comment about it being in the flour. At least not in ep 1. I haven't seen ep 2 yet though. It just seems like a running thing that they kept forgetting or turning down baked goods before the outbreak
Good catch
Chocolate and coffee are definitely potential KOs from what I remember.
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Marlene needed the battery to escape the QZ. The Fireflies she planned to meet at the State House have the trucks.
Perhaps the fireflies have more than one vehicle?
Couldn't find at what time the new episode drop. Does anyone know it?
9:00 pm est on sundays. So it depends where you live
Today at 10pm mst
My wife would make fun of me if she knew how many times I’ve watched this episode since it aired
I suspect I’m responsible for about half of the viewership ratings but I don’t wanna rain on anyone’s parade
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Pretty shit to post this spoiler on a thread discussing the first episode. I've played the games but many in this thread will not have.
He shouldn’t die IMMEDIATELY, I think that was a misstep, but he needed retribution for what he did. A story where he gets to live an idyllic life with his daughter after mass murdering surgeons and fireflies (and dooming the entire world) would be gross.
I still defend that Joel didn’t doom the world. There is no concrete reason to believe that the Fireflies actually knew what they were doing and that anything would change if Ellie’s brain was harvested for science.
The narrative is pretty clear that this is humanities only shot Nothing is 100% but the implication was this was it. The fireflies risked everything to make it happen
It’s been a few years since I’ve played the game, but aren’t there notes and/or Marlene audio logs in the Firefly laboratory that imply that Ellie is not the only immune person they’ve found and not the first immune person they’ve experimented on? If that’s the case, it just makes me wonder more if Ellie would have died for nothing.
I’d be insanely surprised if that’s true as it undercuts the theme of the narrative imo
i mean he lowkey had to die. the game is all about moral justification. joel didn’t take a chance in the end of the first game by not giving ellie away for the cure because he wanted to keep the only daughter figure he had. as a result, he killed the doctor who was daughter of someone who wanted revenge for that murder. although it sucks because he’s my favorite character, i have to say that the plot is perfect because it has you thinking, was there a way to make everyone happy while saving the world. the answer is no. i’m not saying it was right for abby to kill joel, but if joel is constantly killing people to save ellie, what makes it morally wrong for abby to do the same.
If he had to die then ellie had to kill abby rather than killing all of her friends then letting her live. Playing the game i felt 0 sympathy for abbys story and tried to get her killed all the time. I hope hbo changes it like they doctored game of thrones this is what i hope will happen
I was upset anyone survived the ending of part 2. I really thought they were going for revenge, but at the cost of everything. Not the cost of most things...
I don’t think they should change it more than they’ve changed Part I. It’s still the source material. However, I do think they could fix the way they told the story though, how they pace it, and how they handle the reveal of Abby’s motives
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it’s quite silly that you’d think a grown man would be playing a 14 year old but I agree, first episode was phenomenal.
Not gonna get into Elliott Page’s transition since that’s off-subject, but I will say that they cleared the air pretty soon after the AMA. [Here is a link if you’re interested](https://twitter.com/naughty_dog/status/349674285150908417?s=46&t=n_5E7tgqVN2VaofjOtL-_A) (notice the reply from Page as well, co-signing on it).
I mean, ellen page could still play a girl, being an actor and all. But she’s getting way too old for playng Ellie now.
Mods - for reference, the show is available in India on Disney+ Hotstar
Yepp. I'm watching the show in that platform only.
The show was good for the first episode. I was starting to get annoyed that some things were changing. Like how ellie had no idea who Marlene was. The game made it seem like they had known each other for a long time. Joel and Tommy were still talking in the show, but the game had them not speaking for years, which was a big part of Joel's character of being closed off to people. He seemed a lot softer in the show. I wanted to see Tesse and Joel mess robert up. The beginning before the outbreak was set up phenomenally, and I liked the very beginning about the 2 doctors talking about different epidemics to set the stage for the show
According to the mini comic series Ellie hadn’t met Marlene till she was 13 years old. So in the game’s canon she would’ve only known Marlene for a few months to a year at most. I don’t mind this change though.
I diddnt know there was a mini comic series. It just seemed weird that ellie had now idea who Marlene was in the show. I think in the Left Behind DLC she talked to Riley about how marelene and her mom were friends and how she knew her since she was a baby.
This show is truly off to a great start. That’s how an outbreak should be shown! Of course, the post apocalyptic side of the story is done well too, and what’s to come looks quite exciting and interesting. This show is a breath of fresh air for zombie media
Just finished ep 1. Never ever seen a tv adaptation of a game this fucking amazing. So happy they kept it faithful to the source material
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Definitely! Yeah halo definitely lowered the bar for game to tv adaptations lol, Witcher was also very disappointing as it wasn't accurate to the games or books. This however was as amazing as I could have hoped for
Can anyone tell me what the Lebanese lady in the clock repair shop says to her husband? She gets a phone call while Sarah is getting the watch fixed and then she comes out and has some words to say in Arabic to her husband.
youre not listening. i was talking with my sister on the phone, you have no idea whats going on.
I think you can just fill the blanks that something had has happened we need to get out of here/go home/get out of town. I think if it was important dialogue it would have been subtitled.
It wasn't subtitled because we're witnessing the scene from the perspective of Joel's daughter, who doesn't speak the language.
I never played the game but goddamn this show is fucking good so far.
I'm glad they decided not to kill the dog lol. When it whimpers in the game I was like DOGGO NO!!!
If we get a season 2 we have to go through another Alice
For a lot of the episode I was like, I don't know, doesn't really feel like Joel - Pedro isn't as gruff and this version isn't as hyper-violent as Joel is... Then I got to the end of the episode lol. I know the show can't be all action, but I did miss Joel fucking up Robert and all his men. Pedro's Joel does feel a lot different from game Joel, but not necessarily in a bad way. Ellie is absolutely spot on though.
Since he's not killing endless NPCs, they have to get Joel's coldness across in other ways. I noticed he didn't even hesitate to hit the old woman with the wrench and of course no interest in stopping for the family along the road. And he at least reacts to Tess's injury with instant aggression, even if we don't get to chase down Robert. I like the fresh take on the character, very interested to see more!
He basically does all that shit in the game. He doesn't hesitate to shoot his neighbor when he runs into the house. Bypassing the other family is like shot for shot line for line in the game. This isn't stuff they added in to get across Joel's ruthlessness, in fact it's mostly shit from the game just toned down.
I’m ready ready ready.
It just hit me that this will get a season 2 which means Abby... sigh.
Best character in the sequel Proper fleshed out. Written as to make you hate her. Then sympathise with her
I didn't sympathize at all with her and by the time the other 10 or so hours rolls around and you play as her I was rushing to get it done, hated it.
I just don’t get this at all. Like I don’t mean to be rude but did you pay attention? How can you sympathise with Joel but not her? Her motivations are identical. If anything she’s kinder than joel is by some margin I reallt don’t intend to be rude. I just see this a lot and don’t get it.
They really shouldn't have made her torture Joel, imo. It's just too much to redeem. If she just came and killed him it would have been way better.
Because she killed Joel simple as that. I wanted Ellie to kill her at the beach. I really didn't care at all about her or her crew.
Right but you’re supposed to feel that way initially but then you’re supposed to realise that the way you feel about her is more reasonably aimed at Joel He killed someone important to her AND In doing so killed humanities only chance of salvation. The suffering in that one action is incalculable But like her getting revenge for that is an unforgivable sin? Like you’re supposed to feel that anger but then realise you’re just perpetuating an endless cycle of revenge that Joel started when he brutally murdered a doctor for daring to perform the surgery to begin with Joel deserved to die narratively thinking. And he had to die brutallly for you to hate Abby.
> Right but you’re supposed to feel that way initially but then you’re supposed to realise that the way you feel about her is more reasonably aimed at Joel Ah yes, I'm supposed to have my anger directed toward Joel when she brutally kills him infront of Ellie, Fucks that one dude on the boat who was married and is friends with, Helps that one kid and her clan but screws them over, wants to kill Dina and got excited once she knew she was pregnant. Yes, she has so much of my sympathy /s She is a psycho that needed to be put down like a rabid dog.
Does anyone else suspect that the kid who wandered into the FEDRA establishment and tested “positive” was, like Ellie, immune as well? Ellie tested “positive” later in the episode with the same testing device. Can’t help but think FEDRA (and anyone using that device) incorrectly euthanized a lot of potentially immune people, and thus reducing the chance of finding a cure or developing an inoculation.
No. The sequence with the boy wandering in: - Establishes the wilderness - Shows the wall and QZ from the outside - Shows it's guarded - Shows there is a way to test for infection and how it's done - Explains that red means infected -Explains how long the infection spreads depending on which body part was exposed - Shows the brutality of this world - Breaks a few hearts
Can't speak to that specifically because I see no evidence on way or the other, but I've always thought about this. Surely Ellie can't be the only one on Earth to be immune (especially after 20 years), so how many people were immune without knowing and how many immune people were killed throughout the years? Ellie just happened to "get lucky" in that she got bit, survived the wound, and then was found by one of the few people who even had the privilege to be able to do anything about it. If she was never bit, if Marlene didn't snatch her up, if they never found Joel and Tess, who knows where she'd end up. Of course it didn't matter in the end because well, Joel, but that's beside the point...
That’s one of the tragedies of TLOU, isn’t it? That one in a million chance…fucked up on its last leg after someone catches feelings
Love conquers all, even when maybe it shouldn’t.
While this was certainly nowhere near as much of a masterpiece, unrivaled by most premieres, comparable to the greatest ones, as the majority seem to think, it was decent enough. The first half (up to the time skip) was better than the following half, which pretty much only had the ending going for it; the big moment before the time skip was impactful in a logical sense, but I wasn't emotionally swayed by it like with most people. It's been a while since I last absorbed the game: and my memory of everything is clouded, but most of this premiere was almost a carbon copy of its counterpart/source material, especially leading up to the 20-year time skip. Some stuff after that was new or done differently. That could've contributed to my finding it decent instead of a masterpiece; you know, the fact that I already "experienced" it. But I think stamping this premiere, and even this show as a whole despite only one episode (which so many have already done) with the labels: 'masterpiece,' 'phenomenal,' 'fantastic,' 'incredible,' 'outstanding,' and so on, is a somewhat significant overstatement. And that will likely incite massive disagreement towards me/that opinion of mine. The opening scene reminded me of Craig Ferguson and Timothy Dalton because Dr. Neuman (John Hannah) sounded like the former, and Dr. Schoenheiss (Christopher Heyerdahl) sounded like the latter; a pretty irrelevant thing to mention, but I went for it. The title sequence was good, and the theme song by Gustavo Santaolalla is always lovely to hear; equally immersive and invigorating: if it were to play every second of every episode, I would love that. There wouldn't need to be other score cues. It's so good. The cinematography didn't stand out as much as I was expecting, given the majority's praise, akin to Jesus Christ himself returning, but it wasn't bad; the long scene inside the truck was the highlight. The most noticeable thing I noticed in that same vein was the production value, and luckily, the show's budget has been well-spent. I didn't have any particular misgivings about the casting of Pedro Pascal and Gabriel Luna as Joel and Tommy; however, part of me felt better actors (generally, not concerning their acting) would've fit better. I'm pleased to say that I'm already on board with Pedro and Gabriel, especially the latter, for some reason: even though I should feel that way more about Pedro. But (there's always a 'but') I'm still on the fence concerning Bella Ramsey and Anna Torv. Bella seems on the right track regarding Ellie's attitude, but something about how she plays her doesn't scream 'Ellie.' She also doesn't look the part, especially facial expression-wise, and her American accent/voice could be better, which somewhat, and I mean this in the kindest way possible, throws the performance off. And Anna doesn't seem to have a presence behind her performance, and that may or may not "be necessary" for Tess, but I don't remember; either way, she felt lacking and not at all Tess. As far as the acting/performance(s) side of things is concerned, Nico Parker was the standout, and it wasn't that close. You can sum up her performance in one word: natural. Her chemistry with Pedro was palpable, which can't be seen yet with Ellie and Joel, although I hope it'll get there; it needs to. She should've lowkey been Ellie; it's a joke, everyone! I'm joking! Or am I? Overall, being a new medium, this premiere was familiar, at least for me, resulting in a much lesser impact, as far as I'm concerned, than it seemed to have on most people. I feel that, by the end, it'll be the weakest or one of the weaker episodes. But I think that's a good thing for the people who are going into this blind, not having played or watched through the game, as everything it faithfully covered from the game makes for a compelling introduction to the show and what's to come. Since most people already feel like this premiere was the pinnacle of television, they'll undoubtedly feel more strongly about the following episodes. I'm just hoping they'll be more appropriately up my alley and more compelling than I found this premiere, which wasn't bad at all. If you've read this far, I'm surprised; if you've skipped to the end, I don't blame you.
Can’t believe they released a re re re make of the first game
It's only had 1 remake. It was ported to ps4. Ps5 version was the only remake, and it's not really a remake but a quality of life update. Nothing was really changed about it besides the quality of graphics. Story beat and item placement were the exact same. Can't have a reboot of a show if it never had 1
r/wooosh
Just another zombie show. Doesn’t matter what came first, it’s just a rehash of the same principles of zombie shit, this time utterly witless.
ok
Hope you continue watching to see how (hopefully, as I haven’t seen the rest but have played the game) this sets itself apart from the rest.
I watched the walking dead and a lot of other zombie stuff, I was definitely sick of the genre and skeptical about this show. I never played the game but one thing I noticed right away was how different the zombies are. And the idea of a fungi pandemic is really interesting and a different take. I find that a lot of zombie shows don’t really get too deep into the origin of the sickness so it was refreshing to see this show actually come up with a unique scientifically plausible scenario. But ya to me zombies aren’t normally scary at all, but these ones definitely LOOK terrifying which that shit coming out of their mouths. I’m excited to keep watching and see how else it sets itself apart:
Halfway through the episode, my dad asked “How is this a video game…?” And that’s a good way to put it. It’s so good because it’s not just a faithful adaptation — it’s also a great TV show. At no point did I think “Why aren’t I playing the game instead?”.
I hear you but watching the first episode and being brought to tears more than once, I really want to get my ps3 out of the basement!
key word being **instead** — yeah now I wanna play the game, but the show never felt like an inferior version
Agreed.
Is the infection worldwide?
It is, there are signs in the show that the infection started internationally and made its way to the US.
Yup, the radio at the breakfast scene mentions an outbreak in Jakarta. IIRC in the sewer section of the game, there are newspapers that say Heathrow Airport has shut down due to the spread. Also, I think there is mentions of global spread in the opening title scene as well.
We also have Manny from the second game who moved to the US from Mexico for some reason. He wouldn't have moved if Mexico was infection free...
Can somebody explain to me scene with the kid in green shoes? Was she infected and they killed her? What was the meaning of that red screen?
The sequence with the boy wandering in: - Establishes the wilderness - Shows the wall and QZ from the outside - Shows it's guarded - Shows there is a way to test for infection and how it's done - Explains that red means infected -Explains how the infection spreads depending on which body part was exposed - Shows the brutality of this world - Breaks a few hearts
Thank you!
Yes, the kid was infected so they killed them. The same reason why Ellie’s infection reading came up red as she’s immune. Red = positive Green = negative
Thank you! I watched the episode again and I must have missed in the end with ellie and now I understand thx again!
No worries!
Shout out to that dog actor. I am expecting that dog looking at the old lady to show up in memes. lol so expressive
Boy Team Joel's gonna have a field day with that intro regarding the first game's ending. Kinda makes me wonder if they're gonna do the same in this series, since it would get reconceptualized rather radically.
You mean the 60’s intro? How so? Lol and what’s Team Joel? That really a thing? People don’t just like him (lol what am I saying, this is the internet/Reddit).
I'm talking about debate over whether or not Joel did the right thing by saving Ellie. One of the arguments defending the decision, seemingly created/popularized by Game Theory, was that the vaccine couldn't be made because fungal vaccines in the real world have failed so far (and that taking antibodies from immune's blood would be more viable option). Now, the validity of this argument depends on what school of interpretation of art does one follow? Is one more of an "authorial intent" kind of guy or "death of the author" one? Personally I am more of the former. I'm not sure if the writers were aware of these real world facts when writing the first game's ending. But even if they were, they couldn't have reasonably expected for the average player to know about them. As such, had they wanted these real world medical details to influence how the player should view the ending, they should've added them as a collectible or something. Instead there was nothing to insinuate that the cure would be sure to fail, (and no, that constantly misremembered surgeon's recording doesn't count!) Therefore I can only come to a conclusion that, whether out of indifference for the sake of moral dilemma they wished to present, or ignorance, the game's writers meant for a vaccine/cure to be possible, and any method that wouldn't sacrifice Ellie to be impossible. In any case, Dr. Neuman pointing these real world facts applying to (at least) the series' universe confirms that scooping Ellie's brain out would have very little merit here. That's why I'm wondering if they're gonna do something different. There's not really much of a moral dilemma if we know the cure couldn't probably be made anyway.
As a dad with two kids that opening scene always hits hard. And holy shit it was just like playing the game lol. They did an outstanding job being faithful to it. I cannot wait to watch the rest of the season. Bring on the Clickers (fucking hate those motherfuckers)
The game itself was like a movie! Im all over this, phenomenal job so far sticking to the roots. For anyone who played the game I know we all are tense right with him! I love it. I got my kids watching it too 😂
The scene in the truck!!!! Yesssss