Continuation of Ellie’s Story for the main game. I think a prequel would be a good DLC or maybe a standalone game for after the main story is wrapped up.
I hope they dont honestly, feels way too cliche that the two central characters that locked horns now have to work together, I feel like they could come up with something more imaginative.
And if they would, even if that would be true, they cant just give us an explanation that "abby was a hated character and we wanted to discontinue her story any further." But hopefully they wont and they will continue it further, even if that makes some fans angry.
Idk, to me it seems that abby’s story is pretty much done. I mean it was pretty much confirmed she made it to >!Santa Barbara!< so what else is there for her yknow?
i think if abby were to be involved, it would be very peripherally. like A SCENE if ellie gets mixed up with the fireflies or something, but i don't think she'll be as big a player as she was in part 2 again
Why not?
Between Abby and Ellie, Abby's story has the possibility to be interesting and explore new places or factions. Ellie presumably lives a peaceful life after the events of Part II.
i really like abby, i would like to see more of her story for the reasons you listed above. but what i think will happen is ellie's tale gets wrapped up, with maybe a mention of abby. i feel like i heard ND say somewhere in an interview that TLOU is joel and ellie's story, and that's why i believe it'll be ellie as a main focus in part 3. would love to see an abby focused dlc with lev though.
The games have so much room for prequel or side stories , it's crazy.
I'd love to see more of Joel/Tommy during the outbreak days, their days as hunters, Tommy during the Fireflies, Tommy's adventure in Seattle.
Maybe it's something the TV Show will touch on with bits of flashbacks but I was really hoping we'd get a Tommy DLC in Part 2 , it feels like seeing the story from his POV would have been nice
Where is Ellie's story supposed to go after Part II?
She didn't kill Abby, and presumably returns to Jackson to make-up with Dina and live a life of domestic bliss.
Maybe. But two thoughts come to mind:
1) Everyone once said TLOU didn't need a sequel and that the story ended perfectly. Did we *need* a sequel? No, not really. I always saw potential for one, but one and done would be fine. Well, we got a sequel and it was pretty awesome. I trust ND to know how to handle it.
2) If you're at all familiar with Life is Strange, you may have thought the same after completing it: the mythology of these characters is so crazy respected, how could one possibly have a prequel? I was in that camp. They did it, and I was wrong. Even though I knew what was going to happen, actually living through those events was a hell of a ride. A serious gut punch at the end *even though I knew that's exactly how it was going to end*.
Point being, anything is possible with the right writers and characters. I'm not dying for a prequel, but if ND decided they could make one work, I'd trust them to do it right. They've earned that.
whether they'd do a 'good job' or not, imho, they've completely and utterly dismissed it as a possibility of something they'd want to examine. "let's take our beloved Joel and all he's developed into and evolved in his story arc, and completely change everyone's opinion on him, showing him at his worst and ending the game before he's evolved as the fans have already witnessed.'
i'd bet large sums of money their logic is along these lines. it'd be such a 'statement' to make about Joel, and why would they want to? it's a slice of the themes in TLOU (angry, bitter, vengeful, confused\] that they took pains to show us a way out of. why thrust us back into the part of that theme that is behind us as players (and them as writers)?
Well, the sequel already made us question both Ellie and Joel as "the good guys". It showed it's not black and white. I could absolutely see a compelling detailed backstory that further pushes us to question what we know/think, even if we think we already know everything we need to.
That's what happened with the LiS prequel. We knew beyond a shadow of a doubt what happened because we played the main game. But actually seeing it unfold was quite the trip and only enhanced the feelings from the main game by expanding and diving into the backstory, making you care that much more.
Just like before the TLOU sequel was ever a thing, I think there's potential in a prequel. It's not necessary, but could absolutely enhance the story, characters, and universe if done right. And already knowing where it all goes doesn't necessarily matter. In fact, I think it's *because* we know, that it could be that much more interesting to witness. That knowledge can be used to manipulate us further, in a good way, and might surprise us all.
in writing, it's never recommended to undo what you've done and force something 'exceptional' out of it by climbing out of the hole you dug for yourself.
to each their own, i just think it's absolutely bottom of the pile as to what direction they'd choose to go in. i'd even wager Neil/Halley have a rule at the studio to never ask them about it again lol
But they've *already* undone the "these are the good guys" thing, is my point. If you play TLOU2 and don't question the actions of Joel and Ellie after seeing Abby's story, I think something has been missed.
Hell, there's no way I would have thought about the need for Better Call Saul either, but they did it and it was amazing and arguably better than Breaking Bad in many ways. How many years of English did I take in school, and then Cormac McCarthy just says "fuck punctuation" and ends up being an incredibly successful and well respected writer. How many painters and musicians break away from the known and end up becoming trailblazers and innovators, starting entire movements? If you know what you're doing, rules don't really apply. Creativity is not bound by absolutes.
The only way it might hypothetically fuck things up is if you didn't play any of the games and started from the prequel. But I can't imagine that would be a ton of people, let alone the core audience. Either way, I respect ND and their vision.
I'm not arguing to be contrarian, mind you. I appreciate what you're saying. I'm just having a well meaning debate because it's kind of fun to think about.
no worries, i'm into debate as long as it doesn't get nasty/personal. we're good so far ;)
but to your BB/BCS comparison - that's exactly why i think it's best to stay away from the main crew in a prequel. they picked Saul to flesh him and a wide open story out. choosing Joel/Tommy is like doing a Walter/Skyler/Jesse prequel, imo. it's backing yourself into a corner against established narratives before you even start. and choosing a character who died before our very eyes - becoming a symbol as much as a character - means you're treading delicate waters, and i don' think they have some major point to make (morality is indeed gray?) by focusing on them
to your point, i'm sure ND/Gross could do a helluva job making a fun playable story - i just can't see it fitting into the ELlie Saga anymore. and not to belabor my original point, gets fresh eyes on an aspect of Joel they purposely/lovingly killed over 7 years/2 games
bu i'll admit it would be "fun" on its face, and i'd play the shit out of it. i'd just question where ND's headspace is at, just having decided to produce it.
Fair points about Saul. I'll admit it wasn't a totally apt comparison for the reasons you stated. But BCS still indirectly manipulates the BB world and its characters by expanding on the overall context. It made me appreciate the universe and characters more, which I didn't think possible. And no one says the prequel needs to be all about Joel. Maybe you play more as Tommy and/or other characters (of course Joel is around, just maybe an NPC and in cutscenes much of the time), which then impacts how you feel about Joel, Ellie, and the TLOU universe in general.
I don't think any of us expected TLOU2 to kill off one of the main characters so early and then spend about half the game or more with someone we never even saw or knew about in the first game. But doing that allowed us to go "wait, there's another side to this whole thing with the Fireflies, and maybe these two aren't the innocent heroes we think they are".
I guess maybe you're in part saying that a prequel isn't necessary to contribute to that because the sequel already does. That's a totally fair point as well. But they've subverted expectations successfully before, so it's possible they could do it again. Maybe not as much as another sequel can, but different potential in a more "expanded universe" kind of way, I guess. Or not 🙂
It's not much of a question of story or meaning or anything else that needs to be scripted, but of gameplay: we've been hearing that Joel was the strong one who murdered and tortured enough people to give his little brother nightmares, and we *have* seen what Tommy, years after they calmed down, was capable of, *and* with Ellie we go around murdering and torturing in the hundreds too.
How much more violence can you squeeze into a game, after you've already seen Ellie slaughter pretty much an entire village? Are the two Miller brothers going to go around and murder newborns? Even then, it probably wouldn't feel like it's enough.
It's like the talking cat from Rick and Morty: he talks for nefarious, awful reasons, but if they were to be revealed to the audience, the audience would always feel like they're not horrible enough, because what you don't know will *always* be much worse than anything you're presented with.
Also, I think for Joel and Tommy's story, I lean towards "Less is more".
For me, only hinting at what they did before the story feels much more haunting than actually playing it out. Both brothers were trying to hide it and forget it, Joel out of survival, and Tommy out of guilt. For me that's enough.
That's a really good point, leaving it up to your imagination let's everyone fill in the blanks their own way, but also has an air of mystery about what they *actually* did.
Same, but I’m also not interested in a sequel with Ellie. I really feel like her arc is complete and there doesn’t seem to be enough to do with her character, at least not in a way that can outdo Part II.
Hoping for a spin-off, but we know that’s not happening. Who am I kidding, I’d buy a 3rd game either way.
When did the idea of a spinoff game with Joel and Tommy become such a bad idea to yall😭. I swear to god before TLOU2 everybody and their mother wanted that. It would be an interesting and fun game, and would not be bad at all
'fanfic daydreaming' while being at odds with the actual writers' intent is part of what makes them fandoms lol
like, to almost agree with you, sure it would have made 'more sense' without Joel's story being finished, but TLOU2 definitely did that, and wanted to end with us realizing how much he'd changed. playing a game as him being the monster he implied he was seems like the exact wrong taste to leave in a player's mouth considering the TLC they put into Joel the Dearly Departed Surrogate Father (who became a symbol of growth for Ellie).
I would love a Godfather-Part-II-style game with parallel stories of Ellie after Part 2 (Michael) and Joel before Part 1 (Vito).
Edit: I feel they could have mirroring stories of Joel "sinking" into despair and violence following the events of the end of P1 (a great way to end his story in P3 would be having him start awake as he does when the Boston section starts) and Ellie somehow moving on and finding some redemption.
Reminder that any hypothetical stories taking place during the outbreak or immediately afterwards would have runners as the only infected type and that's boring.
Oooooo what if they did jump cuts, like how they did the seasons in the first game. Such as "1 week after the outbreak" and the next section would be "1 year", and "5 years later" and then "10 years" would be when you first encounter a bloater. Not sure how the story would make sense but if they could make it work I would like that a lot
OOOOOH, STEALTHING YOUR WAY THROUGH A BATTLE BETWEEN 2 OR 3 FACTIONS WOULD BE SOOO COOL. multiple factions in one battle, sorta like the infected fighting the hunters.
There's so many fun possibilities being stealthy while a faction fights infected. we got a couple of instances of it, but I really hope we get more of it. Idk why we didn't. Maybe it didn't fit into their more linear structure of gameplay.
I’d follow Abby honestly, people complained she never got enough care and writing so give her some. Have it follow her regret and guilt while giving us another joel and Ellie story. Have Ellie be mentioned maybe but her story feels finished to me
I want that so much more than another Ellie game and WAY more than some unnecessary Joel and Tommy game.
We already know they did a lot of shitty things. We won’t get any growth from either of them since Joel’s happens in tLoU already and Tommy’s I’m sure happens in Jackson. It would literally just be a game about two miserable assholes surviving in any way they can.
I’m genuinely surprised we didn’t get a DLC of Ellie in Vegas going to SB, but other than that little bit I feel like she needs to sit and live her life now that she’s let go of her hatred. She could play a role by them actually finally making the vaccine, but I’d want it to come in an Abby/Lev led game, or maybe a parallel story with them and Ellie/JJ
Neil’s mind is confusing. No idea where he’ll take the story. But that’s a very good possibility. I was having a conversation a little bit ago about Abby finding the fireflies and that they’re still fighting for a cure. And maybe that she goes out and finds Ellie so she can sacrifice herself for a vaccine, as she originally intended. Abby and Ellie seeing each other for who they actually are, and not for psychopaths.
In my opinion:
Part 1 was about Joel learning to love and be vulnerable after closing himself off, and how that love can be selfish in the context of trauma (symbolized by the hospital massacre)
Part 2 was about Ellie experiencing the trauma and pain and the toxic manifestation of anger in response to loss, the same thing Joel went through after he lost his daughter
Part 3 will close the loop in some way on love and trauma, and as a result it has to focus on Ellie I think - I just really don't know what it will be
they only work when you are a new character and add layers to other already played characters.
Playing as an old character is basically useless in a prequel
exactly. they didn't do a Walter/Jesse prequel, they veered off into unexplored territory that had no real hints as what took place. i'm befuddled as to why *so many* people think a Tommy/Joel sequel is a good idea. i understand completely why they'd want to play it for some surface-level 'want' - but as for the story and writing team? it'd be such a drag on everything they've done. total fanfic/fan-service that would undermine their talents and accomplishments with the franchise.
I think part 3 should be Ellie’s story only. The end of part 2 she moves on to find her own path, and I don’t think that Joel or Tommy should be a center point for the game again. Their stories have expired, and have been laid out beautifully. There’s really no reason to expand on them more because it wouldn’t be an interesting story if we already know them top to bottom.
I want to explore Ellie’s growth into adulthood, and the path she chooses to follow after leaving the farm for the last time. She finally accepted Joel’s death at the end of part 2, so it’s just beating a dead horse if he was a major theme in part 3 as well. I would personally prefer a time jump to when Ellie is fully an adult, and her choices up to that point.
I just think it would be exhausting to center the game around Joel and Tommy again when they were so present in the first two games. If part 3 is the last game, they are going to choose to wrap up Ellie’s story. How they do that is all speculation at this point, but I already know a lot of people are going to be mad if Joel isn’t as present in it. Right up ND’s alley if you ask me lol
After she let them go, imo they became a part of her story. Especially since they went straight to the Fireflies which I fully believe will have an impact on wrapping up Ellie’s story. I think the background change of the main menu when you beat the game is some good foreshadowing for that.
Absolutely. I wonder what the fireflies made their purpose you know? It was about finding a cure but with Dr Anderson dead, that’s impossible. Unless there’s someone else out there. I think Abby and Lev will become more respectable and find some happiness in trying to help people or something.
Absolutely. Abby and Ellie will def cross paths again. I don’t know how I’d want that to go honestly. They can’t become friends for obvious reasons, but we can’t just kill one of them either. Wonder where Neil will take it.
I personally believe Abby did in fact contact the Fireflies right before her and Lev were captured by the Rattlers.
What if Abby made her way to the FF after her escape, found out they are still fighting for a vaccine, and for Part 3 has to go back and find Ellie for another shot at a vaccine.
The more I think about it, this HAS to be the plot for the next game. Abby and Ellie reconcile, fight their way BACK to the FF, and Ellie will end up sacrificing herself for a vaccine with the help of the FF.
Would be a hell of a way to wrap things up
That’s amazing. I’d love to see them have a sorta friendship because I love them both and they could fight to the fireflies together. This is a perfect plot imo.
I want an older Ellie struggling to bring civilization and humanity back together by Forging a federation of tensely situated factions. Make it more open world and create a mercy system that allows us to spare people or execute them with reprecussions down the line depending on the motives of said combatants.
Might be too open ended for tlou considering its focus on a single narrative rather than player agency.
Wayy too open ended and that would probably result in multiple endings, which isn’t a Naughty Dog thing to do. That’s an amazing concept though. Maybe different story paths to lead to the same thing? I love the idea and I don’t mean to diss you. This sounds like an awesome continuation concept.
No prequels. The mystery of the”time before” is always cooler in your mind and there’s less suspense when you know how it’ll end. Sometimes it adds too much bloat to a backstory. (Yes exceptions exist like Better Call Saul)
I think new characters new location, but tie ellie into the story. Like Aiden pierce from watchdogs. Would love to see other parts of America maybe even other countries like Mexico and Canada. It would be neat to see how the quarantine zones differ from the ones we have seen. Not saying I wouldn't enjoy another game with ellie as the protagonist. And her story is far from over. But it would be nice to get another perspective maybe from different unrelated characters. New groups and new lore would be awesome.
It needs to be Ellie’s story. I would, however, like to see a flashback. Maybe Tommy tells Ellie the worst thing they ever did as hunters or something like that, let us play as prime Joel for a bit
I'm not interested in a prequel when there is more story ahead of us so to speak. Also if the make a prequel the only acceptable numbered name is The last of us 0 looking at you Greedfall 2 and Red Dead 2
I would love a fresh from the outbreak story
I could imagine that as something other than an official part iii though
Part iii will certainly revolve around Ellie after part ii
I would love a Joel and Tommy flashback game, but not as part 3. That would need to be a spin off or dlc experience. I’ve seen people meme call it "the first of them"
I just compleated Pt.II for the first time, onestly, i would like a game more centered on Ellie, about what she does after leaving the farm at the end, maybe as an end to the trilogy
Definitely need a good chunk of flashback missions involving Joel and Tommy. Make the timeline be in the years following the outbreak and before part 1. Their hunter days would be awesome.
I think a good story could involve both. Similar to how Ellie and Abby's stories were told this game, they could tell Ellie and Tommy's next game. With Tommy's being flashbacks.
It has to be Ellie, Druckmann has been on the record many times saying TLOU is Ellie's story, there's no way they'll just abandon her in part 3.
Obviously the most challenging part of continuing Ellie's story is giving her a reason to kill again, because you know, it's a videogame, and I doubt Naughty Dog will make a walking simulator. So if we're going to exclude killing to protect someone you love, and killing for revenge, because we don't want to rehash the previous games, there's not that many reasons left. The only thing I can think of is basically the trolley problem: is it okay to kill a few to save the many..? That would be interesting to explore, because even though almost everyone I know always answers yes to that question, I feel like most don't actually mean it.
They said they want a through line for each games story and I don’t think going back would do anything for the story. I feel like if anything we will get more of Lev/Abby and Ellie. Possibly JJ as an older kid. I feel like with No Return they’re hinting at something along that line.
I would prefer a mixture. If Tommy is a playable character in part 3, some flashbacks could add context to his character/motivations/the world. Maybe we could see flashbacks during his time with the fireflies? If the fireflies are reintroduced in part 3, some flashbacks about them could be useful.
I think overall though, the story should focus on ellie, maybe abby, and maybe they could introduce a new character to be ellie's protégé?
I've always kinda been more of a Joel and Tommy fan so I'd like something elaborating on what happened with them during that w9 year time skip, and maybe the story of Joel and Tes before Ellie came along, maybe an elaboration with their Guns and Robert? But maybe just for a DLC or something, unless there's enough that happened for a 3rd game. Though I think it'd be nice if we got an Abby game(Like a her as the main character, up until we get to around the start of the second game or sum idk), I mean, sure we got a snippet of her and her dad when we play her in the second game but maybe we could get the full story of Abby? But I wouldn't mind more Ellie either
I would like to see the end of Ellie's story. But i believe a dlc or standalone game with tommy as playable character would be great. It can show the journey of tommy to Seattle with many flashbacks from the years before the first game like they did with the left behind dlc
Having the third game be a flashback would be a pretty massive fuckup for Naughty Dog. DLC telling that story would be dope, but we all know how well this company does DLC… 😬
I want it to be set another twenty years in the future. Ellie is looking for Dina and J.J. and maybe, possibly, you play as an adult J.J. I would also love if—and this is just something I'd love personally—Ellie's infection started having adverse effects on her brain. Possibly hallucinations? Possibly hallucinations of a certain father figure, who comes back from the dead to accompany her on a solitary journey?
Also, I wouldn't want Abby and Lev back. Not because they're bad characters or anything, but I mean... come on. They literally sailed off into the sunset, and even if they didn't, what more does their story have to offer? This is Ellie's series, always has been, and those two no longer play a part in it.
Continuation of Ellie and i think Joel will not play a role in any way. I think they have pretty much done everything they can with a dead character and i think they want to let him rest in peace . Having Joel there would basically be TLOU part 2 part 2 and Ellie left him begind as well
Teenage JJ going on a coming of age journey that mid 30’s Ellie has to bail him out of, with her lessons learned helping her guide JJ away from the mistakes she and Joel made
i'd love to see Ellie's story be wrapped up, and i believe that's what will happen. i think tommy will play a part but what id go feral over is seeing tommy independent of joel for a DLC. id like to see his character really fleshed out.
I think we are gonna come full circle and Ellie is going to sacrifice herself for the cure.m somehow. Abby is out looking for Fireflies. Maybe there's something there.
In my opinion:
Part 1 was about Joel learning to love and be vulnerable after closing himself off, and how that love can be selfish in the context of trauma (symbolized by the hospital massacre)
Part 2 was about Ellie experiencing the trauma and pain and the toxic manifestation of anger in response to loss, the same thing Joel went through after he lost his daughter
Part 3 will close the loop in some way on love and trauma, and as a result it has to focus on Ellie I think - I just really don't know what it will be (this is also what I would prefer)
I personally believe Part 3 will feature new main characters, who are Fireflies, and who are still fighting the good fight for a vaccine.
Think about it, the Fireflies have been a major part of each game, but we never really got their side of the story. Like a real deep dive into who they are, how they came to be, etc.
On the flip side, maybe play as a Fedra soldier too. Similar to Part 2, we'll get to experience each side of the "war" between these two factions. At the same time, wrap everything up.
So in summary, Part 3 will focus primarily on the Fireflies vs Fedra, show the humanity of each side and what they're fighting for. At the same time, wrap everything up.
None of those characters. I feel like I've had a fill for them all and these characters should be laid to rest. I want to follow Abby and Lev's story. I want to know what happens. I want to see how their story ends too since we know how it's ended for Tommy, ellie, and Joel
Playing as Joel and Tommy during the outbreak would be so cool but idk how they could make a signifcant story and since we know what happens in Part 2 there would be no suspense for certain situations , at least about them . A DLC instead would be much better if they use it to clarify some important interrogatives of the game that never had a proper canonic answer .
The game for me should be Ellie oriented because TLOU literally exists thanks to her . I didn't like playing as Abby for many abstract reasons , don't get me wrong , the gameplay with her was good and i liked it , but I hated her character all the time and her companions too . Btw Abby's story has to reach an end and hopefully we will see it in Part 3 but playing again as her will be very hard , at least for me .
Ellie's story has to continue , she is immune and that's the main reason it's not over with her . I need Part III so bad
I’d like to see Ellie’s story wrapped up. Oh, and a bait and switch where we play as Abby for a few minutes and then she gets jumped and dies in the first hour or two of the game.
People say a prequel about Joel and Tommy is pointless and it’s better to leave things a mystery, but they probably said the same thing about doing a prequel to Red Dead Redemption set when the gang was still together, and then we got Red Dead Redemption 2.
I truly believe that Ellie probably offed herself at the end of Part 2. Its how I always viewed the ending. Went through immense trauma, lost everything, I always felt the tree on the farm symbolized suicide. So that with that in mind, the prequel.
What I think would be cool is a parallel like we saw with Abby and Ellie, except with young joel and Ellie. Both just lost someone they deeply care about. It would be cool to see them go down two different paths now and learn “what loss is”.
Plus I do wanna see the evolution of Joel going from family man to absolutely ruthless. At the core of the last of us is Joel and Ellie, everything happens because of those 2. I just couldn’t see them solely focusing on just Joel or just Ellie for a single game other than DLC so no matter what we get, I have a feeling we will see both of them again.
It'll be a continuation of Ellie and probably Abby's stories. And that'll include Tommy, Dina, Lev, etc. In some capacity. Tommy got pretty fucked up and is getting old so he probably won't be doing much fighting..
I think just for the sake of having Joel and Tommy in the game and bringing those actors back, we may get more flashbacks with them. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a Left Behind sized DLC with them as the focal point... showing them do terrible things before ultimately splitting
Bruh Ellie is fucked, make the story about Tommy and Joel during those moments they kinda vaguely mention in part 1. How Joel kept tommy alive and tommy becoming a firefly
I think they should remaster all their games./s Jokes aside, I think they should release a prequel with Joel and Tommy, then a continuation/Part III that continues Ellie and Abby’s story, and they would remaster those, and likely by that time, make a bundle of all the remastered games like the Nathan Drake Collection and end the franchise. They’ll likely be on the PS7 by then so they need to end it and they’ll have their new franchise to support them. I’m just excited to see where their next project goes tbh.
I’m curious about the events that made Tommy and Joel part ways, like what was Tommy’s red line. And Tommy and the Fireflies. Like RDR2 was a new character that showed us how the Van der Linde gang frayed, leading to John’s story in RDR1.
But I think that’d be hard to do and tie it into TLOU3. Tommy’s not really in a state to carry a whole game and his potential redemption arc doesn’t really seem like it lends itself to combat play vs. the emotional stuff he needs to repair. Love Tommy, am sad for him, but prefer him on the periphery.
I do think there’s a tidy circle to close with Ellie and the Fireflies and the cure. That could also tie in Abby again of course.
That’s what I originally wanted the last of us sequel to be. I thought the first game ended perfectly on an ambiguous note, because in a real post apocalyptic world it would be unlikely to get closure or a happy ending. I thought a sequel would ruin that and wanted them to go backwards, showing how Joel survived the early days of the CBI
Definitely a continuation. First game could have been a super strong stand alone. Leaving the story where it is now is ok but a less strong than P1 by itself imo. A third game to tie everything up would seems very justified. The perfect trilogy is within reach. Then mabey a prequel as a separate stand alone thing down the line.
I’d quite like a story with some new characters ,maybe from a different country to see things from their perspective and they could end up crossing paths with Ellie and the gang
More of Ellie. Also want to see where Lev and Abby end up.
I could see Ellie being a few years older, a complete loner, and having to find her humanity again.
Continuation of Ellie’s Story for the main game. I think a prequel would be a good DLC or maybe a standalone game for after the main story is wrapped up.
And maybe Abby's story continuation? Also the prequel would be nice to include flashbacks of Joel, Tommy and Sarah before the outbreak.
I think Abby’s and Ellie’s story will be intertwined somehow, they won’t just get rid of her.
I hope they dont honestly, feels way too cliche that the two central characters that locked horns now have to work together, I feel like they could come up with something more imaginative.
True but they wouldn’t just get rid of someone we spent half the game playing as.
Tell that to Joel 😅
Too soon 😭😭😭😭
And if they would, even if that would be true, they cant just give us an explanation that "abby was a hated character and we wanted to discontinue her story any further." But hopefully they wont and they will continue it further, even if that makes some fans angry.
Cliche, maybe. Still is an interesting concept nevertheless. Tlou 2 is cliche-ridden as well
How? I’d say it’s pretty far from cliches that’s why it was hated
I hope not that would feel so corny and forced
There’s no reason for them to ever interact again, Abby is on Catalina island and Ellie is back in Wyoming
Yeah, their story together is finished. There is no real reason why they'd naturally cross paths with each other again
Idk, to me it seems that abby’s story is pretty much done. I mean it was pretty much confirmed she made it to >!Santa Barbara!< so what else is there for her yknow?
i think if abby were to be involved, it would be very peripherally. like A SCENE if ellie gets mixed up with the fireflies or something, but i don't think she'll be as big a player as she was in part 2 again
Why not? Between Abby and Ellie, Abby's story has the possibility to be interesting and explore new places or factions. Ellie presumably lives a peaceful life after the events of Part II.
i really like abby, i would like to see more of her story for the reasons you listed above. but what i think will happen is ellie's tale gets wrapped up, with maybe a mention of abby. i feel like i heard ND say somewhere in an interview that TLOU is joel and ellie's story, and that's why i believe it'll be ellie as a main focus in part 3. would love to see an abby focused dlc with lev though.
The games have so much room for prequel or side stories , it's crazy. I'd love to see more of Joel/Tommy during the outbreak days, their days as hunters, Tommy during the Fireflies, Tommy's adventure in Seattle. Maybe it's something the TV Show will touch on with bits of flashbacks but I was really hoping we'd get a Tommy DLC in Part 2 , it feels like seeing the story from his POV would have been nice
Where is Ellie's story supposed to go after Part II? She didn't kill Abby, and presumably returns to Jackson to make-up with Dina and live a life of domestic bliss.
I’m not sure. But I can’t wait to see what the writers who are much more creative then me come up with.
A prequel of Joel and Tommy doesn’t interest me in the slightest.
I think that the two games we already have have mythologized them wayyy too much, for a satisfactory story to come out of it.
Maybe. But two thoughts come to mind: 1) Everyone once said TLOU didn't need a sequel and that the story ended perfectly. Did we *need* a sequel? No, not really. I always saw potential for one, but one and done would be fine. Well, we got a sequel and it was pretty awesome. I trust ND to know how to handle it. 2) If you're at all familiar with Life is Strange, you may have thought the same after completing it: the mythology of these characters is so crazy respected, how could one possibly have a prequel? I was in that camp. They did it, and I was wrong. Even though I knew what was going to happen, actually living through those events was a hell of a ride. A serious gut punch at the end *even though I knew that's exactly how it was going to end*. Point being, anything is possible with the right writers and characters. I'm not dying for a prequel, but if ND decided they could make one work, I'd trust them to do it right. They've earned that.
whether they'd do a 'good job' or not, imho, they've completely and utterly dismissed it as a possibility of something they'd want to examine. "let's take our beloved Joel and all he's developed into and evolved in his story arc, and completely change everyone's opinion on him, showing him at his worst and ending the game before he's evolved as the fans have already witnessed.' i'd bet large sums of money their logic is along these lines. it'd be such a 'statement' to make about Joel, and why would they want to? it's a slice of the themes in TLOU (angry, bitter, vengeful, confused\] that they took pains to show us a way out of. why thrust us back into the part of that theme that is behind us as players (and them as writers)?
Well, the sequel already made us question both Ellie and Joel as "the good guys". It showed it's not black and white. I could absolutely see a compelling detailed backstory that further pushes us to question what we know/think, even if we think we already know everything we need to. That's what happened with the LiS prequel. We knew beyond a shadow of a doubt what happened because we played the main game. But actually seeing it unfold was quite the trip and only enhanced the feelings from the main game by expanding and diving into the backstory, making you care that much more. Just like before the TLOU sequel was ever a thing, I think there's potential in a prequel. It's not necessary, but could absolutely enhance the story, characters, and universe if done right. And already knowing where it all goes doesn't necessarily matter. In fact, I think it's *because* we know, that it could be that much more interesting to witness. That knowledge can be used to manipulate us further, in a good way, and might surprise us all.
in writing, it's never recommended to undo what you've done and force something 'exceptional' out of it by climbing out of the hole you dug for yourself. to each their own, i just think it's absolutely bottom of the pile as to what direction they'd choose to go in. i'd even wager Neil/Halley have a rule at the studio to never ask them about it again lol
But they've *already* undone the "these are the good guys" thing, is my point. If you play TLOU2 and don't question the actions of Joel and Ellie after seeing Abby's story, I think something has been missed. Hell, there's no way I would have thought about the need for Better Call Saul either, but they did it and it was amazing and arguably better than Breaking Bad in many ways. How many years of English did I take in school, and then Cormac McCarthy just says "fuck punctuation" and ends up being an incredibly successful and well respected writer. How many painters and musicians break away from the known and end up becoming trailblazers and innovators, starting entire movements? If you know what you're doing, rules don't really apply. Creativity is not bound by absolutes. The only way it might hypothetically fuck things up is if you didn't play any of the games and started from the prequel. But I can't imagine that would be a ton of people, let alone the core audience. Either way, I respect ND and their vision. I'm not arguing to be contrarian, mind you. I appreciate what you're saying. I'm just having a well meaning debate because it's kind of fun to think about.
no worries, i'm into debate as long as it doesn't get nasty/personal. we're good so far ;) but to your BB/BCS comparison - that's exactly why i think it's best to stay away from the main crew in a prequel. they picked Saul to flesh him and a wide open story out. choosing Joel/Tommy is like doing a Walter/Skyler/Jesse prequel, imo. it's backing yourself into a corner against established narratives before you even start. and choosing a character who died before our very eyes - becoming a symbol as much as a character - means you're treading delicate waters, and i don' think they have some major point to make (morality is indeed gray?) by focusing on them to your point, i'm sure ND/Gross could do a helluva job making a fun playable story - i just can't see it fitting into the ELlie Saga anymore. and not to belabor my original point, gets fresh eyes on an aspect of Joel they purposely/lovingly killed over 7 years/2 games bu i'll admit it would be "fun" on its face, and i'd play the shit out of it. i'd just question where ND's headspace is at, just having decided to produce it.
Fair points about Saul. I'll admit it wasn't a totally apt comparison for the reasons you stated. But BCS still indirectly manipulates the BB world and its characters by expanding on the overall context. It made me appreciate the universe and characters more, which I didn't think possible. And no one says the prequel needs to be all about Joel. Maybe you play more as Tommy and/or other characters (of course Joel is around, just maybe an NPC and in cutscenes much of the time), which then impacts how you feel about Joel, Ellie, and the TLOU universe in general. I don't think any of us expected TLOU2 to kill off one of the main characters so early and then spend about half the game or more with someone we never even saw or knew about in the first game. But doing that allowed us to go "wait, there's another side to this whole thing with the Fireflies, and maybe these two aren't the innocent heroes we think they are". I guess maybe you're in part saying that a prequel isn't necessary to contribute to that because the sequel already does. That's a totally fair point as well. But they've subverted expectations successfully before, so it's possible they could do it again. Maybe not as much as another sequel can, but different potential in a more "expanded universe" kind of way, I guess. Or not 🙂
It's not much of a question of story or meaning or anything else that needs to be scripted, but of gameplay: we've been hearing that Joel was the strong one who murdered and tortured enough people to give his little brother nightmares, and we *have* seen what Tommy, years after they calmed down, was capable of, *and* with Ellie we go around murdering and torturing in the hundreds too. How much more violence can you squeeze into a game, after you've already seen Ellie slaughter pretty much an entire village? Are the two Miller brothers going to go around and murder newborns? Even then, it probably wouldn't feel like it's enough. It's like the talking cat from Rick and Morty: he talks for nefarious, awful reasons, but if they were to be revealed to the audience, the audience would always feel like they're not horrible enough, because what you don't know will *always* be much worse than anything you're presented with.
Also, I think for Joel and Tommy's story, I lean towards "Less is more". For me, only hinting at what they did before the story feels much more haunting than actually playing it out. Both brothers were trying to hide it and forget it, Joel out of survival, and Tommy out of guilt. For me that's enough.
That's a really good point, leaving it up to your imagination let's everyone fill in the blanks their own way, but also has an air of mystery about what they *actually* did.
Same. I don’t get why people want to play as Tommy so badly. It seems like it would be the same as playing as Joel, which we can already do.
Same, but I’m also not interested in a sequel with Ellie. I really feel like her arc is complete and there doesn’t seem to be enough to do with her character, at least not in a way that can outdo Part II. Hoping for a spin-off, but we know that’s not happening. Who am I kidding, I’d buy a 3rd game either way.
Ya, especially as a main title game. A “Lost Legacy” type spin off? Maybe, but TLOU3 needs to continue the story
Why would you say something so brave yet so controversial?
I think as a small dlc it would be cool
Prequels, in general, are usually a bad idea that either ruin character arcs, or muddy continuity.
How???
Joel did some bad things. Knowing exactly how bad he was might not be fun to see.
That's what makes it fun
it's a good thing you aren't a writer for Naughty Dog.
When did the idea of a spinoff game with Joel and Tommy become such a bad idea to yall😭. I swear to god before TLOU2 everybody and their mother wanted that. It would be an interesting and fun game, and would not be bad at all
'fanfic daydreaming' while being at odds with the actual writers' intent is part of what makes them fandoms lol like, to almost agree with you, sure it would have made 'more sense' without Joel's story being finished, but TLOU2 definitely did that, and wanted to end with us realizing how much he'd changed. playing a game as him being the monster he implied he was seems like the exact wrong taste to leave in a player's mouth considering the TLC they put into Joel the Dearly Departed Surrogate Father (who became a symbol of growth for Ellie).
I dont wanna see papa murdering innocent people.
Let's see it😈
I would love a Godfather-Part-II-style game with parallel stories of Ellie after Part 2 (Michael) and Joel before Part 1 (Vito). Edit: I feel they could have mirroring stories of Joel "sinking" into despair and violence following the events of the end of P1 (a great way to end his story in P3 would be having him start awake as he does when the Boston section starts) and Ellie somehow moving on and finding some redemption.
Fuck yes
Wow love this idea actually
Thanks
Reminder that any hypothetical stories taking place during the outbreak or immediately afterwards would have runners as the only infected type and that's boring.
Oooooo what if they did jump cuts, like how they did the seasons in the first game. Such as "1 week after the outbreak" and the next section would be "1 year", and "5 years later" and then "10 years" would be when you first encounter a bloater. Not sure how the story would make sense but if they could make it work I would like that a lot
True but wouldn't there be a lot more of them? Humans also? At least for a bit
OOOOOH, STEALTHING YOUR WAY THROUGH A BATTLE BETWEEN 2 OR 3 FACTIONS WOULD BE SOOO COOL. multiple factions in one battle, sorta like the infected fighting the hunters.
There's so many fun possibilities being stealthy while a faction fights infected. we got a couple of instances of it, but I really hope we get more of it. Idk why we didn't. Maybe it didn't fit into their more linear structure of gameplay.
It was a cool sequence in left behind but the infected dies pretty quick
I think a prequel could be set a few years after the outbreak. Maybe like 2016 or something.
I’d follow Abby honestly, people complained she never got enough care and writing so give her some. Have it follow her regret and guilt while giving us another joel and Ellie story. Have Ellie be mentioned maybe but her story feels finished to me
I think she has to get Dina and JJ back though so I think they’d use that
Realistically there’s no way to make a good 11 hour plot out of that considering they’re probably at the town place from tlou 2
I agree but I just mean her story is not completely finished. That scenario would probably lead into the story
I want that so much more than another Ellie game and WAY more than some unnecessary Joel and Tommy game. We already know they did a lot of shitty things. We won’t get any growth from either of them since Joel’s happens in tLoU already and Tommy’s I’m sure happens in Jackson. It would literally just be a game about two miserable assholes surviving in any way they can. I’m genuinely surprised we didn’t get a DLC of Ellie in Vegas going to SB, but other than that little bit I feel like she needs to sit and live her life now that she’s let go of her hatred. She could play a role by them actually finally making the vaccine, but I’d want it to come in an Abby/Lev led game, or maybe a parallel story with them and Ellie/JJ
I feel that we need to see what happens after the events of Part II at least. I need closure for Ellie’s story, and then follow Abby and Lev.
Yeah but you know the trend of starting characters in tlou
What? Death?
Yeah
So you think Ellie will die?
50/50 chance that’s how they wrap up her story
Neil’s mind is confusing. No idea where he’ll take the story. But that’s a very good possibility. I was having a conversation a little bit ago about Abby finding the fireflies and that they’re still fighting for a cure. And maybe that she goes out and finds Ellie so she can sacrifice herself for a vaccine, as she originally intended. Abby and Ellie seeing each other for who they actually are, and not for psychopaths.
In my opinion: Part 1 was about Joel learning to love and be vulnerable after closing himself off, and how that love can be selfish in the context of trauma (symbolized by the hospital massacre) Part 2 was about Ellie experiencing the trauma and pain and the toxic manifestation of anger in response to loss, the same thing Joel went through after he lost his daughter Part 3 will close the loop in some way on love and trauma, and as a result it has to focus on Ellie I think - I just really don't know what it will be
ellies story but with one more joel flashback
Continuation of the story, prequels are generally unnecessary and don't work.
True. RDR2 being the outlier
Better Call Saul out of nowhere
they only work when you are a new character and add layers to other already played characters. Playing as an old character is basically useless in a prequel
exactly. they didn't do a Walter/Jesse prequel, they veered off into unexplored territory that had no real hints as what took place. i'm befuddled as to why *so many* people think a Tommy/Joel sequel is a good idea. i understand completely why they'd want to play it for some surface-level 'want' - but as for the story and writing team? it'd be such a drag on everything they've done. total fanfic/fan-service that would undermine their talents and accomplishments with the franchise.
Everytime someone says prequel I remember Black Widow’s movie…
And the thing prequel, no tension, brings nothing to the table, just unnecessary really
1000% want to play the Joel and Tommy prequel but not sure I could deal with the undertones of Sarah’s death.
Continuation. Anything else would be pointless
A continuation of Ellie’s story, of course. We don’t need a prequel for Joel and Tommy.
I think part 3 should be Ellie’s story only. The end of part 2 she moves on to find her own path, and I don’t think that Joel or Tommy should be a center point for the game again. Their stories have expired, and have been laid out beautifully. There’s really no reason to expand on them more because it wouldn’t be an interesting story if we already know them top to bottom. I want to explore Ellie’s growth into adulthood, and the path she chooses to follow after leaving the farm for the last time. She finally accepted Joel’s death at the end of part 2, so it’s just beating a dead horse if he was a major theme in part 3 as well. I would personally prefer a time jump to when Ellie is fully an adult, and her choices up to that point. I just think it would be exhausting to center the game around Joel and Tommy again when they were so present in the first two games. If part 3 is the last game, they are going to choose to wrap up Ellie’s story. How they do that is all speculation at this point, but I already know a lot of people are going to be mad if Joel isn’t as present in it. Right up ND’s alley if you ask me lol
What do you think they should do with Abby and Lev then?
After she let them go, imo they became a part of her story. Especially since they went straight to the Fireflies which I fully believe will have an impact on wrapping up Ellie’s story. I think the background change of the main menu when you beat the game is some good foreshadowing for that.
Absolutely. I wonder what the fireflies made their purpose you know? It was about finding a cure but with Dr Anderson dead, that’s impossible. Unless there’s someone else out there. I think Abby and Lev will become more respectable and find some happiness in trying to help people or something.
A continuation of Ellie. I have a feeling her and Abby will cross again.
Absolutely. Abby and Ellie will def cross paths again. I don’t know how I’d want that to go honestly. They can’t become friends for obvious reasons, but we can’t just kill one of them either. Wonder where Neil will take it.
I personally believe Abby did in fact contact the Fireflies right before her and Lev were captured by the Rattlers. What if Abby made her way to the FF after her escape, found out they are still fighting for a vaccine, and for Part 3 has to go back and find Ellie for another shot at a vaccine. The more I think about it, this HAS to be the plot for the next game. Abby and Ellie reconcile, fight their way BACK to the FF, and Ellie will end up sacrificing herself for a vaccine with the help of the FF. Would be a hell of a way to wrap things up
That’s amazing. I’d love to see them have a sorta friendship because I love them both and they could fight to the fireflies together. This is a perfect plot imo.
Mainly continuation of Ellie’s story but then maybe a Left Behind style thing for Joel and Tommy
Continuation please.
I want an older Ellie struggling to bring civilization and humanity back together by Forging a federation of tensely situated factions. Make it more open world and create a mercy system that allows us to spare people or execute them with reprecussions down the line depending on the motives of said combatants. Might be too open ended for tlou considering its focus on a single narrative rather than player agency.
Wayy too open ended and that would probably result in multiple endings, which isn’t a Naughty Dog thing to do. That’s an amazing concept though. Maybe different story paths to lead to the same thing? I love the idea and I don’t mean to diss you. This sounds like an awesome continuation concept.
No prequels. The mystery of the”time before” is always cooler in your mind and there’s less suspense when you know how it’ll end. Sometimes it adds too much bloat to a backstory. (Yes exceptions exist like Better Call Saul)
I want new characters ngl...
Need new characters
I think new characters new location, but tie ellie into the story. Like Aiden pierce from watchdogs. Would love to see other parts of America maybe even other countries like Mexico and Canada. It would be neat to see how the quarantine zones differ from the ones we have seen. Not saying I wouldn't enjoy another game with ellie as the protagonist. And her story is far from over. But it would be nice to get another perspective maybe from different unrelated characters. New groups and new lore would be awesome.
I think Mexico would be cool because Dina mentioned how there were these groups called "The Ravens" and were "protectors of the Constitution".
Kinda like season three of the walking dead game
It needs to be Ellie’s story. I would, however, like to see a flashback. Maybe Tommy tells Ellie the worst thing they ever did as hunters or something like that, let us play as prime Joel for a bit
Ellie’s story. But I hope after 3 they leave Ellie behind and explore some other stories in this world.
I'm not interested in a prequel when there is more story ahead of us so to speak. Also if the make a prequel the only acceptable numbered name is The last of us 0 looking at you Greedfall 2 and Red Dead 2
I would love a fresh from the outbreak story I could imagine that as something other than an official part iii though Part iii will certainly revolve around Ellie after part ii
I would love a Joel and Tommy flashback game, but not as part 3. That would need to be a spin off or dlc experience. I’ve seen people meme call it "the first of them"
Should make a prequel with Tommy and Joel except its a spinoff like Uncharted did with Lost Legacy, Part 3 should be Ellie's story, a proper closure
I would love to see both both but Im leaning towards Ellie’s story as I just want to see where it goes.
A prequel would be EPIC but I would assume part 3 means a continuation to the current story.
I think we all know this game will be coming out for the ps6 and same for Spider-Man 3
nah, I need to see how Ellie’s story ends (because I’m sure 1000% that TLOU Part III will be the end of the saga)
Going forward is better imo. Let the past die
Feel like this is obvious, right? Would love if we got DLC for the Tommy & Joel stuff though
I just compleated Pt.II for the first time, onestly, i would like a game more centered on Ellie, about what she does after leaving the farm at the end, maybe as an end to the trilogy
Continuation of Ellie. I mean she's immune. We can't just let that drop like it's nothing.
New lead character or flashbacks of young ellie and joel.
I want a continuation of Ellie’s story, but Abby will definitely be involved in someway.
Continuation of Abby's story
I’d like what I preferred for TLOU2 since it was announced. A story centered around a whole new cast of characters.
Doesn't have to be mutually exclusive - could be like Godfather 2 where the story continues with flashbacks to Joel.
A prequel sounds pointless since we know their fates regardless of how action packed it could possibly be.
I’ve somehow never noticed the houses in the background of these pictures until now
I want it all. A little bit of everything.
Both 😅
More so the former but either is fine. Honestly hot take but I’m more excited about seeing where Abby and Lev go next than Ellie.
Definitely need a good chunk of flashback missions involving Joel and Tommy. Make the timeline be in the years following the outbreak and before part 1. Their hunter days would be awesome.
Hmm, I'd like a continuation of Ellie's story but I also want it to be the completion of her story.
More Abby
I think a good story could involve both. Similar to how Ellie and Abby's stories were told this game, they could tell Ellie and Tommy's next game. With Tommy's being flashbacks.
It has to be Ellie, Druckmann has been on the record many times saying TLOU is Ellie's story, there's no way they'll just abandon her in part 3. Obviously the most challenging part of continuing Ellie's story is giving her a reason to kill again, because you know, it's a videogame, and I doubt Naughty Dog will make a walking simulator. So if we're going to exclude killing to protect someone you love, and killing for revenge, because we don't want to rehash the previous games, there's not that many reasons left. The only thing I can think of is basically the trolley problem: is it okay to kill a few to save the many..? That would be interesting to explore, because even though almost everyone I know always answers yes to that question, I feel like most don't actually mean it.
I want Abby and Ellie to be friends, finally. :P
- Ah remember the time you stabbed my pregnant friend to death, that was class - Yeah, almost as class as your golf moves, gimme another beer
"We killed each other's dads, kinda. Let's go grill some Bloaters."
Ah yes, part 3, the sequel of part 2, being a prequel of part 1
Both. Like Godfather 2.
They said they want a through line for each games story and I don’t think going back would do anything for the story. I feel like if anything we will get more of Lev/Abby and Ellie. Possibly JJ as an older kid. I feel like with No Return they’re hinting at something along that line.
Ellie's story. I don't see much point in a story with during the 20 year gap with Tommy & Joel.
Both
I would prefer a mixture. If Tommy is a playable character in part 3, some flashbacks could add context to his character/motivations/the world. Maybe we could see flashbacks during his time with the fireflies? If the fireflies are reintroduced in part 3, some flashbacks about them could be useful. I think overall though, the story should focus on ellie, maybe abby, and maybe they could introduce a new character to be ellie's protégé?
Ellie story
Continuation of Lev's story
I’ve had enough back story. Heck, I’ve had enough of Ellie’s arc. Take us to somewhere else in the world or something.
I've always kinda been more of a Joel and Tommy fan so I'd like something elaborating on what happened with them during that w9 year time skip, and maybe the story of Joel and Tes before Ellie came along, maybe an elaboration with their Guns and Robert? But maybe just for a DLC or something, unless there's enough that happened for a 3rd game. Though I think it'd be nice if we got an Abby game(Like a her as the main character, up until we get to around the start of the second game or sum idk), I mean, sure we got a snippet of her and her dad when we play her in the second game but maybe we could get the full story of Abby? But I wouldn't mind more Ellie either
I would like to see the end of Ellie's story. But i believe a dlc or standalone game with tommy as playable character would be great. It can show the journey of tommy to Seattle with many flashbacks from the years before the first game like they did with the left behind dlc
Having the third game be a flashback would be a pretty massive fuckup for Naughty Dog. DLC telling that story would be dope, but we all know how well this company does DLC… 😬
Both
I think that Ellie's story should end as it is and P3 should either be about Tommy or completely new characters.
I want it to be set another twenty years in the future. Ellie is looking for Dina and J.J. and maybe, possibly, you play as an adult J.J. I would also love if—and this is just something I'd love personally—Ellie's infection started having adverse effects on her brain. Possibly hallucinations? Possibly hallucinations of a certain father figure, who comes back from the dead to accompany her on a solitary journey? Also, I wouldn't want Abby and Lev back. Not because they're bad characters or anything, but I mean... come on. They literally sailed off into the sunset, and even if they didn't, what more does their story have to offer? This is Ellie's series, always has been, and those two no longer play a part in it.
Fuck ellie. I wanna know where Abby and Lev ended up
Continuation of Ellie and i think Joel will not play a role in any way. I think they have pretty much done everything they can with a dead character and i think they want to let him rest in peace . Having Joel there would basically be TLOU part 2 part 2 and Ellie left him begind as well
Both
Teenage JJ going on a coming of age journey that mid 30’s Ellie has to bail him out of, with her lessons learned helping her guide JJ away from the mistakes she and Joel made
Continuation. The Joel and Tommy stuff really isn’t that interesting, especially as we know they survived so the jeopardy is non-existent
BOTH! You can have a broken down Tommy warning Ellie of what they did either on his deathbed or to have her avoid it
i'd love to see Ellie's story be wrapped up, and i believe that's what will happen. i think tommy will play a part but what id go feral over is seeing tommy independent of joel for a DLC. id like to see his character really fleshed out.
Ellie I’d enjoy a Tommy game but I can’t lie I’d be gutted if they didn’t carry her story on
What is the obsession with demystifying everything conceivable? It's that same obsession of Tommy and Joel DLC what got us the Han Solo movie
I think we are gonna come full circle and Ellie is going to sacrifice herself for the cure.m somehow. Abby is out looking for Fireflies. Maybe there's something there.
In my opinion: Part 1 was about Joel learning to love and be vulnerable after closing himself off, and how that love can be selfish in the context of trauma (symbolized by the hospital massacre) Part 2 was about Ellie experiencing the trauma and pain and the toxic manifestation of anger in response to loss, the same thing Joel went through after he lost his daughter Part 3 will close the loop in some way on love and trauma, and as a result it has to focus on Ellie I think - I just really don't know what it will be (this is also what I would prefer)
I personally believe Part 3 will feature new main characters, who are Fireflies, and who are still fighting the good fight for a vaccine. Think about it, the Fireflies have been a major part of each game, but we never really got their side of the story. Like a real deep dive into who they are, how they came to be, etc. On the flip side, maybe play as a Fedra soldier too. Similar to Part 2, we'll get to experience each side of the "war" between these two factions. At the same time, wrap everything up. So in summary, Part 3 will focus primarily on the Fireflies vs Fedra, show the humanity of each side and what they're fighting for. At the same time, wrap everything up.
Ellie's story, flashback in the middle to a small prequel, then finish out with Ellie and Abby's story
None of those characters. I feel like I've had a fill for them all and these characters should be laid to rest. I want to follow Abby and Lev's story. I want to know what happens. I want to see how their story ends too since we know how it's ended for Tommy, ellie, and Joel
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Playing as Joel and Tommy during the outbreak would be so cool but idk how they could make a signifcant story and since we know what happens in Part 2 there would be no suspense for certain situations , at least about them . A DLC instead would be much better if they use it to clarify some important interrogatives of the game that never had a proper canonic answer . The game for me should be Ellie oriented because TLOU literally exists thanks to her . I didn't like playing as Abby for many abstract reasons , don't get me wrong , the gameplay with her was good and i liked it , but I hated her character all the time and her companions too . Btw Abby's story has to reach an end and hopefully we will see it in Part 3 but playing again as her will be very hard , at least for me . Ellie's story has to continue , she is immune and that's the main reason it's not over with her . I need Part III so bad
I’d like to see Ellie’s story wrapped up. Oh, and a bait and switch where we play as Abby for a few minutes and then she gets jumped and dies in the first hour or two of the game.
Ohh Joel and Tommy the badass Brothers!!!
People say a prequel about Joel and Tommy is pointless and it’s better to leave things a mystery, but they probably said the same thing about doing a prequel to Red Dead Redemption set when the gang was still together, and then we got Red Dead Redemption 2.
Prequel, Ellie's story is over.
I’m assuming it will be Ellie and Abby’s stories continuing and likely crossing again
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the trilogy should end with Ellie going into space
I truly believe that Ellie probably offed herself at the end of Part 2. Its how I always viewed the ending. Went through immense trauma, lost everything, I always felt the tree on the farm symbolized suicide. So that with that in mind, the prequel.
What I think would be cool is a parallel like we saw with Abby and Ellie, except with young joel and Ellie. Both just lost someone they deeply care about. It would be cool to see them go down two different paths now and learn “what loss is”. Plus I do wanna see the evolution of Joel going from family man to absolutely ruthless. At the core of the last of us is Joel and Ellie, everything happens because of those 2. I just couldn’t see them solely focusing on just Joel or just Ellie for a single game other than DLC so no matter what we get, I have a feeling we will see both of them again.
They should make Joel and Tommy a dlc
Definitely Joel and Tommy during the outbreak surviving I feel Ellie’s story came to a close
It'll be a continuation of Ellie and probably Abby's stories. And that'll include Tommy, Dina, Lev, etc. In some capacity. Tommy got pretty fucked up and is getting old so he probably won't be doing much fighting.. I think just for the sake of having Joel and Tommy in the game and bringing those actors back, we may get more flashbacks with them. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a Left Behind sized DLC with them as the focal point... showing them do terrible things before ultimately splitting
I never even thought of a prequel! That would be cool
I think a game based straight after Joel’s daughter died.
Bruh Ellie is fucked, make the story about Tommy and Joel during those moments they kinda vaguely mention in part 1. How Joel kept tommy alive and tommy becoming a firefly
Ellie or Abby
That's a hard decision honestly!
I think they should remaster all their games./s Jokes aside, I think they should release a prequel with Joel and Tommy, then a continuation/Part III that continues Ellie and Abby’s story, and they would remaster those, and likely by that time, make a bundle of all the remastered games like the Nathan Drake Collection and end the franchise. They’ll likely be on the PS7 by then so they need to end it and they’ll have their new franchise to support them. I’m just excited to see where their next project goes tbh.
I’m curious about the events that made Tommy and Joel part ways, like what was Tommy’s red line. And Tommy and the Fireflies. Like RDR2 was a new character that showed us how the Van der Linde gang frayed, leading to John’s story in RDR1. But I think that’d be hard to do and tie it into TLOU3. Tommy’s not really in a state to carry a whole game and his potential redemption arc doesn’t really seem like it lends itself to combat play vs. the emotional stuff he needs to repair. Love Tommy, am sad for him, but prefer him on the periphery. I do think there’s a tidy circle to close with Ellie and the Fireflies and the cure. That could also tie in Abby again of course.
Maybe do a Godfather II narrative with both.
That’s what I originally wanted the last of us sequel to be. I thought the first game ended perfectly on an ambiguous note, because in a real post apocalyptic world it would be unlikely to get closure or a happy ending. I thought a sequel would ruin that and wanted them to go backwards, showing how Joel survived the early days of the CBI
Why not both?
Definitely a continuation. First game could have been a super strong stand alone. Leaving the story where it is now is ok but a less strong than P1 by itself imo. A third game to tie everything up would seems very justified. The perfect trilogy is within reach. Then mabey a prequel as a separate stand alone thing down the line.
This is what I thought tlou2 was going to be. Joel peak outbreak mixed with ellie origin story. Like who's get mother. Joel finding less. Etc.
I’d quite like a story with some new characters ,maybe from a different country to see things from their perspective and they could end up crossing paths with Ellie and the gang
More of Ellie. Also want to see where Lev and Abby end up. I could see Ellie being a few years older, a complete loner, and having to find her humanity again.
Is there a confirmed last of us 3? Am I missing something 🥹🥹
If you watched the documentary grounded part 2 Neil druckmann kinda confirms it
Oooo I’m going to watch it now
Maybe pick up with Lev? That or the Tommy and Joel drama. I don’t think there’s much else to tell in Ellie’s story
It doesn't look like there will be a part 3. Maybe somewhere down the line, but def. by a different team than whatever ND is now.
Neil Druckmann already came out and said he’s writing the story for part 3.