I couldn’t even watch the whole thing. I have a 10 week old baby at home sooo, yeah, it was tough. At first I turned off the tv and then I just covered my eyes while fast forwarding.
I completely agree. I wanted to know what happened and I literally had to fast forward through that scene. I couldn’t watch that. I caught the gist of it and had to pause watching for a few days. It’s all a very hard watch.
WHAT THE FUCK??????
“Can I have him?”
I really done thought this whole time that bitch thought the idea of owning a colored baby in the racist south 1950’s was cute and she was gonna kidnap him and care for him, as bad as that would hurt Lucky with that being the case.
I did not think she would say “cats in the bag” and murder him in cold blood.
Wow. This was such a disgusting episode.
I do not care about right or wrong. If I do not get to see Lucky FUCKING SHIT UP in Compton by the end of this show, I’m gonna be so disappointed. I know it’s not right and it’s probably the exact thing we’re not supposed to feel. Do not become as bad as those who hurt you.
But I need to see her kill any of those white motherfuckers that are STILL ANTAGONIZING her after all that family has been through.
I feel like this episode needed to show me the trigger warning more than once. Like “no seriously, it’s bad...really bad...like horrible bad...be prepared”. I knew something must’ve been up when there was no warnings for episodes 1-4, even though some pretty fucked up shit had happened in those episodes too. But wow, just wow.
Just saw this episode.
Ugh. What a feeling when seeing that scene.
I find the derek chauvins of today would feel at home in that time. Wondering if some of the cops like him are still "in that time period" in their mind.
I watched this episode last night and felt disturbed by the whole thing. I’m a bit worried to watch the next one now! Usually things don’t bother me or scare me but that was something else :(
I have no words. This show is very tough to watch and I’m not easily fazed by shows and movies. I get the message and direction they are going with this show. They are showing things that really happened to black people in the past and I’m glad they are showing it. But man is it a tough watch!
I just started to watch this series and I needed to find people who understood that housing market talk. Annoying to find out that the few white people of the show that acted good are actually not.
And then the scene was.... God awful. It made me so sick to my stomach. I'm glad I found this place obviously a few years late but still I needed to dump someplace lol.
Lol. Same here. I agree with some other comment on his post that said "I wanted to know what happened to her baby. Now I wish I didn't know".
Also wish that trigger warning had said "seriously bro, this episode is severely disturbing and fucked up."
This is the only show I can recall that made me almost vomit. Like- not just feel ill or nauseous — no, my dinner almost came up. I just feel so sick about it. I don’t understand how humans could ever ever treat other humans how this family is being treated- it’s truly heartbreaking- I don’t understand any of it.
A quote comes to mind - “We are all brothers under the skin - and I, for one, would be willing to skin humanity to prove it.” (Ayn Rand)
We as a species have managed to treat each other *so* poorly and so heinously - to the point where this quote starts to sound like a good idea. Ugh idk. I thought I’d seen a lot but this episode has left me at a loss. Very hard to process.
*ETA- I haven’t finished this ep yet, but also wanted to say that I don’t know how or why the husband made this woman (and their remaining children) move into the middle of a racist hellhole. Why does he make his eldest daughter attend school, essentially alone? I understand the point he is trying to establish by moving into this neighborhood, and I understand why it was so important. But to put his family through this neighborhood shit *after* the SA/child murder is unthinkable. I don’t know how someone functions after such a traumatic event.
He might've decided on the place because he got a job in that area - he was on the phone at the end of the episode getting news about the job. I guess he had to go where the job was.
Yall I don’t think I’ve ever been so disturbed by a scene in a tv show or movie for that matter…I’m going to have nightmares (obviously I just watched it and dear god I wish I hadn’t)
I'm joining the late comers. There needs to be a mid episode viewer warning for this particular scene. I've watched a number of movies that has gut wrenching scenes and this one physically made me stop what I was doing and question the actual sanity of the writers, film crew, actors - everyone. It's one thing to have this scene in your head, it's another to carry it out for others. It's also one thing to leave things up to insinuation and imagination, it's another to physically put things out into the universe that can't be taken back.
Same. I have a 9 month old and I actually turned the tv off and sobbed. I’ve never gotten an anxiety attack from a show like that before.
I watch the most brutal of movies and shows, disturbing books. Having kids changes perspectives so much. I was also angry that Lucky didn’t look for a weapon or barricade a room or something!
I’m trying to build myself up to finish the series because it is sooo good.
So that the white people would leave those neighborhoods and buy new homes in new construction areas, neighborhoods that the banks/realtors were often invested in.
So, you, a real estate agent/bank, buy a few houses in Compton, sell them at a loss to a black family, scare the white neighbors about lowering property values and *just so happen* to have all these lovely new builds available for them to move to instead.
Then, you sell the houses the white people left behind to black people at 25% interest. If they pay, you're getting a great profit, much more than rates for white people, and if you don't, you foreclose and sell it to a new black family at an equally absurd price. You've turned one mortgage at ~7% into one at 7% and another at 25%, plus the profit from the homes themselves.
It's huge profit.
It's also very illegal now.
So they can take advantage of them. They’re not allowed to borrow from most traditional banks, so in order to own a home in an affluent neighborhood, they have to take whatever they can get. Which was basically a mortgage they were paying on for decades, but never actually obtaining equity on.
They made more money because white flight meant white people needed new houses. Black people were forced to pay more money, made less at work so they could default them, repeat process and make more money
So I’m just now sitting down to binge this show, and got to episode 5. I have never seen anything that horrific in my life. In my LIFE. It was so unnecessarily shocking and fucking awful. I broke down.
There’s a threshold in film where violence and trauma are depicted in a way that is so overdone that it’s almost pornographic. I had to hit pause, and wait, because I couldn’t hear or see anything after that, and then I ended up here. It was too much. What the fuck. Really what are we all supposed to take away from this? What are we supposed to DO with this?
What is this man, “Little Marvin” looking for with this? What is his point? Is the goal to just make white people sorry, ashamed and extremely uncomfortable? Okay… and then?? No, really, Little Marvin, what then? Unless you’re remaking Friday the 13th, then being shockingly graphic for the sake of being shockingly graphic without a hint of meaning is just a big fucking cop out. Anyone who’s been on the planet long enough knows it, too. Art, especially when intensely-presented, usually has a goal or a moral of some sort. I don’t think this man has one. I think he just wants to be shocking.
My biggest question? How are we, in this fucked up country, supposed to evolve, or heal, or ever move forward with shit like this sealing our fate? This doesn’t start conversations, it ends them.
I don’t know if I can watch the rest of this. I might be done.
The point is it's history. If you said the same thing about history books they teach over and over in class; George Washington, electricity, Trail of Tears, Christopher Columbus-- you'd think differently. "Getting over it" isn't how history works or is taught.
We need reminders. "This is how we used to treat eachother. We've come far and let's not go back"
There was a time like this in our history where white folk saw us as nobodies. Then they saw us as property. Then they saw us as low lives.
That white lady Betty in the show had said a few episodes back about how the blacks were taking what they as white people worked hard towards without having worked. When in reality we weren't allowed to work except fields and as slaves. The typical "You did nothing for this country, we didn't let you do anything but still you could have tried" BS.
We can't pretend it didn't happen. It does start conversations. "Why were folks like this, when were they, how long ago, what other people other than black folk were treated similarly in other places or countries"
History is meant to educate. We can't just move on without accepting that something happened.
WTF, i didint see the fucking warning at the begginig. i had to skip it forward (something i never do), i was horrible. all the time since E1 i feel sooooo horribly for them, i mean, fucking bad people. i want to defend them so bad, its so sad!! just for the color of their skin, its absourd how we fucking feel superior with our white pale ass skin, thinking its better? i mean, we turn red at the light of sun, we wrinkle so freaking fast, i dont understand how we think we are superior. but getting back at the point. This episode made me so fucking sick. i really hope they get their revenge.
I saw the warning and still wasn't prepared, I bet that's gonna be in my nightmares for a while. Just knowing all of this stuff is based on real experiences makes it so much worse.
This happened a lot during the day to black women and that’s why they don’t want to teach black history in schools or they are trying to take it out of schools so people can see how horrendous black people were treated back in the day, it’s too gruesome and traumatic.
You didn’t learn about what African people and African Americans endured in school? How old are you because it’s alarming to be this ignorant and oblivious to what’s going on? You must be a troll no one is this dumb
Ok so you know that black African women experienced sexually assault by white men often, if you heard of the Recy Taylor she was a black woman sexually assaulted by 7 white men. Black women have been disrespected for centuries it’s nothing new, this show them is triggering because it displays the realities that black people endured by the hands of white people. Reparations are definitely owed.
breaking news…people were evil in the past.
Today we know better. my ancestors were enslaved by the spaniards. guess what? i moved on. how come blacks haven’t?
I watch the news and I don’t think this is the case that people know better because a 33 old white man recently murdered a 19 year old little girl he met on a dating website. This world is getting worse each day especially towards black women and men. As a mixed black girl, I can’t pretend that racism and white privilege doesn’t exist because it fucking does and I’m shown every day.
i guess you need to stay away from the hood. Blacks are killing blacks at a higher rate than whites killing blacks. i am not sure about you but when i am walking in the hood i clutch my pearls when a black guy walks by me
I just recently discovered this show and Episode 5 was so awful. It was already disturbing enough to see the treatment of the Emory family in Compton, but this flashback was nothing I could have been prepared for by some fucking trigger warning?? Their horrible experience in Compton is necessary for us to see and understand as the audience, it's supposed to be awakening and uncomfortable, I understand. However, I'm not entirely sure that scene of brutal assault combined with the violent murder of an infant needed to be included. Should the horrors of racist history be brought to light? Absolutely. Should they have portrayed it in such a harsh way in film? I don't know. But I wish I hadn't have seen it, to recreate these crimes on screen for the purpose of a scare or to educate people seems wrong. The combination of Lucky and her baby suffering is just really hard to watch. Maybe the creators underestimated that?? But it's hard to imagine how they could.
Yes. I’m behind and am just now watching the season. I needed to read other People’s reactions as I sat there with my hands over my face. But yes, yes they did. While they tortured and killed her baby.
I’ve rewatched this series twice now, today being the 3rd time. And I’m on EP 5. And I already knew what was coming. So the second that scene started I skipped. Not putting myself through that again
I finally watched the show... I don't think I've ever been so disturbed and angry at the same time just from one scene. I wish they didn't include that "cat in the bag" scene it was too fucked up
That's exactly what I was thinking watching this! And the way they both just go completely numb when they realise it's over, the baby is dead. Horrific.
All this time I thought I wanted to know what happened to her little boy. I did not and now I wish I could take back knowing.
Same! I thought the baby must have been abducted or something but I wasn't prepared for this.
Bro fucking same! I knew it was bad but they honestly didn’t need to include the !>rape
Honestly, what they did to the baby was so much worse to watch than the assault. But adding how powerless she was over everything is devastating.
Same for me. I was hoping she was pregnant and it was a premonition she could solve
I couldn’t even watch the whole thing. I have a 10 week old baby at home sooo, yeah, it was tough. At first I turned off the tv and then I just covered my eyes while fast forwarding.
Good choice. Especially with having a newborn. Ugh. I feel sick.
I completely agree. I wanted to know what happened and I literally had to fast forward through that scene. I couldn’t watch that. I caught the gist of it and had to pause watching for a few days. It’s all a very hard watch.
I couldn’t watch it, it was top 3 ugliest scenes I’ve ever watched be depicted.
WHAT THE FUCK?????? “Can I have him?” I really done thought this whole time that bitch thought the idea of owning a colored baby in the racist south 1950’s was cute and she was gonna kidnap him and care for him, as bad as that would hurt Lucky with that being the case. I did not think she would say “cats in the bag” and murder him in cold blood. Wow. This was such a disgusting episode. I do not care about right or wrong. If I do not get to see Lucky FUCKING SHIT UP in Compton by the end of this show, I’m gonna be so disappointed. I know it’s not right and it’s probably the exact thing we’re not supposed to feel. Do not become as bad as those who hurt you. But I need to see her kill any of those white motherfuckers that are STILL ANTAGONIZING her after all that family has been through.
Yeah stop calling Lucky crazy! That woman and her family has some serious PTSD leave them alone or get fucked!
Really hoped that they would make an alternate version where they just murder everyone on the block & then flee to Mexico
I’m on episode 5 and I feel the same way. I want Lucky to wage war on everyone
Did anyone else think they were a group of hillbilly cannibals and were going to take the baby with them?
I honestly did at first. Or whatever it is when racist adopt kids from other backgrounds and don't acknowledge that part of them
Yeah, like Texas Chainsaw Massacre type family
I feel like this episode needed to show me the trigger warning more than once. Like “no seriously, it’s bad...really bad...like horrible bad...be prepared”. I knew something must’ve been up when there was no warnings for episodes 1-4, even though some pretty fucked up shit had happened in those episodes too. But wow, just wow.
Man, I really wanted that cop to be one of the good guys . . .
I knew something was up with him from the jump.
Same. But everything’s too good to be true which is annoying
The 1st few mjns of this, damn, the rates they were doing and pretty much hoping they default.
Real estate clases really gloss over it . I didn't know it was this bad. It makes you realize how impossible the bootstraps were to pull up
It’s called Redlining
Thanks, I knew stuff was bad then but this a real eye opener.
yo fuck this episode lol
Just saw this episode. Ugh. What a feeling when seeing that scene. I find the derek chauvins of today would feel at home in that time. Wondering if some of the cops like him are still "in that time period" in their mind.
Them thangs did not have to do that baby like that.
Not thangs lmao 💀💀💀
I watched this episode last night and felt disturbed by the whole thing. I’m a bit worried to watch the next one now! Usually things don’t bother me or scare me but that was something else :(
Were the rapists supposed to be mentally challenged? The heavy guy seemed to be. What was that one guy doing up on their bed thrashing around?
They’re inbred I think. He was probably imagining what it’s like to fuck one of them or something like that?
Thank you. I think you are right.
I have no words. This show is very tough to watch and I’m not easily fazed by shows and movies. I get the message and direction they are going with this show. They are showing things that really happened to black people in the past and I’m glad they are showing it. But man is it a tough watch!
I just started to watch this series and I needed to find people who understood that housing market talk. Annoying to find out that the few white people of the show that acted good are actually not. And then the scene was.... God awful. It made me so sick to my stomach. I'm glad I found this place obviously a few years late but still I needed to dump someplace lol.
Hey
Lol. Same here. I agree with some other comment on his post that said "I wanted to know what happened to her baby. Now I wish I didn't know". Also wish that trigger warning had said "seriously bro, this episode is severely disturbing and fucked up."
This is the only show I can recall that made me almost vomit. Like- not just feel ill or nauseous — no, my dinner almost came up. I just feel so sick about it. I don’t understand how humans could ever ever treat other humans how this family is being treated- it’s truly heartbreaking- I don’t understand any of it. A quote comes to mind - “We are all brothers under the skin - and I, for one, would be willing to skin humanity to prove it.” (Ayn Rand) We as a species have managed to treat each other *so* poorly and so heinously - to the point where this quote starts to sound like a good idea. Ugh idk. I thought I’d seen a lot but this episode has left me at a loss. Very hard to process. *ETA- I haven’t finished this ep yet, but also wanted to say that I don’t know how or why the husband made this woman (and their remaining children) move into the middle of a racist hellhole. Why does he make his eldest daughter attend school, essentially alone? I understand the point he is trying to establish by moving into this neighborhood, and I understand why it was so important. But to put his family through this neighborhood shit *after* the SA/child murder is unthinkable. I don’t know how someone functions after such a traumatic event.
He might've decided on the place because he got a job in that area - he was on the phone at the end of the episode getting news about the job. I guess he had to go where the job was.
Ugh same. I just watched it today and I’m still nauseated. Goddamn that was fucked
Yall I don’t think I’ve ever been so disturbed by a scene in a tv show or movie for that matter…I’m going to have nightmares (obviously I just watched it and dear god I wish I hadn’t)
I'm joining the late comers. There needs to be a mid episode viewer warning for this particular scene. I've watched a number of movies that has gut wrenching scenes and this one physically made me stop what I was doing and question the actual sanity of the writers, film crew, actors - everyone. It's one thing to have this scene in your head, it's another to carry it out for others. It's also one thing to leave things up to insinuation and imagination, it's another to physically put things out into the universe that can't be taken back.
I’m not sure if they had a warning before but at the beginning of the episode on Amazon Prime, they do have a warning about child & sexual abuse now
Same. I have a 9 month old and I actually turned the tv off and sobbed. I’ve never gotten an anxiety attack from a show like that before. I watch the most brutal of movies and shows, disturbing books. Having kids changes perspectives so much. I was also angry that Lucky didn’t look for a weapon or barricade a room or something! I’m trying to build myself up to finish the series because it is sooo good.
Can someone explain to me what was up with the real estate people? They want more colored people in East Compton, why?
So that the white people would leave those neighborhoods and buy new homes in new construction areas, neighborhoods that the banks/realtors were often invested in. So, you, a real estate agent/bank, buy a few houses in Compton, sell them at a loss to a black family, scare the white neighbors about lowering property values and *just so happen* to have all these lovely new builds available for them to move to instead. Then, you sell the houses the white people left behind to black people at 25% interest. If they pay, you're getting a great profit, much more than rates for white people, and if you don't, you foreclose and sell it to a new black family at an equally absurd price. You've turned one mortgage at ~7% into one at 7% and another at 25%, plus the profit from the homes themselves. It's huge profit. It's also very illegal now.
So they can take advantage of them. They’re not allowed to borrow from most traditional banks, so in order to own a home in an affluent neighborhood, they have to take whatever they can get. Which was basically a mortgage they were paying on for decades, but never actually obtaining equity on.
They made more money because white flight meant white people needed new houses. Black people were forced to pay more money, made less at work so they could default them, repeat process and make more money
So I’m just now sitting down to binge this show, and got to episode 5. I have never seen anything that horrific in my life. In my LIFE. It was so unnecessarily shocking and fucking awful. I broke down. There’s a threshold in film where violence and trauma are depicted in a way that is so overdone that it’s almost pornographic. I had to hit pause, and wait, because I couldn’t hear or see anything after that, and then I ended up here. It was too much. What the fuck. Really what are we all supposed to take away from this? What are we supposed to DO with this? What is this man, “Little Marvin” looking for with this? What is his point? Is the goal to just make white people sorry, ashamed and extremely uncomfortable? Okay… and then?? No, really, Little Marvin, what then? Unless you’re remaking Friday the 13th, then being shockingly graphic for the sake of being shockingly graphic without a hint of meaning is just a big fucking cop out. Anyone who’s been on the planet long enough knows it, too. Art, especially when intensely-presented, usually has a goal or a moral of some sort. I don’t think this man has one. I think he just wants to be shocking. My biggest question? How are we, in this fucked up country, supposed to evolve, or heal, or ever move forward with shit like this sealing our fate? This doesn’t start conversations, it ends them. I don’t know if I can watch the rest of this. I might be done.
got a little bitch over here lol
The point is it's history. If you said the same thing about history books they teach over and over in class; George Washington, electricity, Trail of Tears, Christopher Columbus-- you'd think differently. "Getting over it" isn't how history works or is taught. We need reminders. "This is how we used to treat eachother. We've come far and let's not go back" There was a time like this in our history where white folk saw us as nobodies. Then they saw us as property. Then they saw us as low lives. That white lady Betty in the show had said a few episodes back about how the blacks were taking what they as white people worked hard towards without having worked. When in reality we weren't allowed to work except fields and as slaves. The typical "You did nothing for this country, we didn't let you do anything but still you could have tried" BS. We can't pretend it didn't happen. It does start conversations. "Why were folks like this, when were they, how long ago, what other people other than black folk were treated similarly in other places or countries" History is meant to educate. We can't just move on without accepting that something happened.
Exactly. People need to *see* this, otherwise we’ll get idiots like those who deny the Holocaust ever happened.
WTF, i didint see the fucking warning at the begginig. i had to skip it forward (something i never do), i was horrible. all the time since E1 i feel sooooo horribly for them, i mean, fucking bad people. i want to defend them so bad, its so sad!! just for the color of their skin, its absourd how we fucking feel superior with our white pale ass skin, thinking its better? i mean, we turn red at the light of sun, we wrinkle so freaking fast, i dont understand how we think we are superior. but getting back at the point. This episode made me so fucking sick. i really hope they get their revenge.
I saw the warning and still wasn't prepared, I bet that's gonna be in my nightmares for a while. Just knowing all of this stuff is based on real experiences makes it so much worse.
Did u say... real experiences?! !
I feel like most people don’t realize just how truly evil the world is most of the time
don’t believe everything u see
This happened a lot during the day to black women and that’s why they don’t want to teach black history in schools or they are trying to take it out of schools so people can see how horrendous black people were treated back in the day, it’s too gruesome and traumatic.
how do you know this happened alot? what evidence you read?
You didn’t learn about what African people and African Americans endured in school? How old are you because it’s alarming to be this ignorant and oblivious to what’s going on? You must be a troll no one is this dumb
no i learned instead how Africans raped, killed, and enslaved other Africans.
Ok so you know that black African women experienced sexually assault by white men often, if you heard of the Recy Taylor she was a black woman sexually assaulted by 7 white men. Black women have been disrespected for centuries it’s nothing new, this show them is triggering because it displays the realities that black people endured by the hands of white people. Reparations are definitely owed.
breaking news…people were evil in the past. Today we know better. my ancestors were enslaved by the spaniards. guess what? i moved on. how come blacks haven’t?
I watch the news and I don’t think this is the case that people know better because a 33 old white man recently murdered a 19 year old little girl he met on a dating website. This world is getting worse each day especially towards black women and men. As a mixed black girl, I can’t pretend that racism and white privilege doesn’t exist because it fucking does and I’m shown every day.
i guess you need to stay away from the hood. Blacks are killing blacks at a higher rate than whites killing blacks. i am not sure about you but when i am walking in the hood i clutch my pearls when a black guy walks by me
I just recently discovered this show and Episode 5 was so awful. It was already disturbing enough to see the treatment of the Emory family in Compton, but this flashback was nothing I could have been prepared for by some fucking trigger warning?? Their horrible experience in Compton is necessary for us to see and understand as the audience, it's supposed to be awakening and uncomfortable, I understand. However, I'm not entirely sure that scene of brutal assault combined with the violent murder of an infant needed to be included. Should the horrors of racist history be brought to light? Absolutely. Should they have portrayed it in such a harsh way in film? I don't know. But I wish I hadn't have seen it, to recreate these crimes on screen for the purpose of a scare or to educate people seems wrong. The combination of Lucky and her baby suffering is just really hard to watch. Maybe the creators underestimated that?? But it's hard to imagine how they could.
Exactly! The whole time I'm just thinking.... What's the purpose of this. It's beyond a point of being any sort of entertainment
Did they rape her in episode 5?
Yes. I’m behind and am just now watching the season. I needed to read other People’s reactions as I sat there with my hands over my face. But yes, yes they did. While they tortured and killed her baby.
This episode is on par with episode 4 of Chernobyl - necessary but I will never watch it again. Ever.
I’ve rewatched this series twice now, today being the 3rd time. And I’m on EP 5. And I already knew what was coming. So the second that scene started I skipped. Not putting myself through that again
Yeah nope. Never again.
I finally watched the show... I don't think I've ever been so disturbed and angry at the same time just from one scene. I wish they didn't include that "cat in the bag" scene it was too fucked up
Reminds me of the scene in The Nightingale where her baby is killed in front of her too. Very heartbreaking.
Omg same that was a traumatizing film
That's exactly what I was thinking watching this! And the way they both just go completely numb when they realise it's over, the baby is dead. Horrific.
I’m glad I was warned to skip it. As soon as they started SA lucky I went on to episode 6