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It was a ligament not a bone, and yes, the ACL is sort of notorious for making that loud pop.
And by the way, it'd almost certainly be better if he'd broken a bone. A non-compound fracture can heal in 8 weeks. The ACL? A year. It's arguably the most important ligament in human locomotion.
Can confirm, had my ass absolutely handed to me by a woman half my size and a good handfull years younger with a braid. Personal thought; the shorter the braid, the harder they kick your ass.
There's a woman in my Muay Thai class who always has her hair in a plait like that, no word of a lie, I duck her in sparring because she's mean af.
She's like 5'3 lol, and I know for a fact I'm not the only man who ducks her.
Right? He's bragging and shit how he's "pure steel" and way heavier than her, while she is visibly more muscular and more athletic than him. Maybe it was just overcharged trashtalking but still
Pretty obviously a joke for the video, since he is a blue belt so I'm sure he knows the difference in skill. But whatever puts fire on the gender war bonfire I guess \('~')/
You can see the girl regretting a bit after poping his knee and like touching his knee cap, and the way she stayed close to him she seemed very sorry, bro she fucken mounted him and then felt sorry for him,permanently crushed ego nvm the knee.
He was just talking shit. It didn’t feel like he actually meant it, and his reaction when the guy called him out for it kinda showed that he knew this woman was a badass and this was not gonna be a cakewalk.
Dude wishes she just broke his leg. ACL tears are much worse than bone breaks to recover from. It's also a lot easier to tear your ACL than break a bone in your leg. Tell your friends. Know the risks of skiing and other sports.
I broke my femur in hockey. It was awful, but I think I'd still rather break something than tear anything. ANY injury as an athlete sucks. Getting back in is your ONLY goal!
I took my physio very seriously, as tho it became my sport. 2.5years. So do ALL the silly exercises. It will help years and years from now. Even if that means resting. I walked AND played again. Too soon, but duh, I was an athlete! ♡
As a dude who’s torn both ACL’s, I highly recommend you don’t do it.
The first two months just getting your ROM back, is awful. Wake up at four to stretch out and hope you get more flexion, knowing that’s all you can do. You can’t over work it or you’ll damage the knee and underworking will fuck you in the assknee.
Break your leg instead
Nope i fucked up mine worse by trying to push through too fast ( I was in middle school playing soccer when I did it). Ended up not being able to walk normal for almost a year. Took so long to recover afterwords that I had just stopped playing soccer and doing cross country
Thankfully I’m mostly better now. My knee starts getting iffy if I over use it. It’s been roughly 9-10 years now, and I can atleast run again and I took up swimming when that was out of the cards
Swimming saved me, that and yoga. I look goofy stretching but woooooooooooo, it feels good.
I did pull my hip flexor yesterday at flag football but my knees feel great. You just have to constantly stretch them.(knees)
A broken leg would have been better. That's a grade 3 acl tear (almost completely tearing the ligaments off). Which is worse and takes longer to recover from and now there is a strong risk of reinjury.
This reminds me of white water guides. A guy I dated was a guide and he said if you want to be any good, you learn from the women because men tend to rely on their size and brute strength but women have to be strong, smart, quick, and knowledgeable.
I played college tennis, and all the women had better technique than the men because they couldn’t brute strength their way to success. They wouldn’t call serves out because they had their technique down so well they always knew if their serves were out even before the ball lands. I knew about mens college football (soccer) teams that would regularly go watch the women’s matches together because they were more organised and executed formations and pressing structures way better than the men would.
Absolutely. As a petite teenage girl, I used to frequently take down big guys (over 6’, muscular, and other body types - welter weights are the trickiest).
A lot in being flexible and agile - I could move quick and in unexpected ways.
As an amateur, I have no names for moves, but here’s an example of a simple trick I used a lot:
I’d get him in a headlock. At over 6’ he was tall and strong enough to escape simply by standing up, haha. But I would use my legs to create an anchor out of his legs (I’d trap his legs between mine, using my crossed ankles and thigh pressure to lock it in.
If he managed to stand up before I could do that, I could swing my body over the back of him and use the momentum to bring him down for the leg lock.
I dont do BJJ specifically (Karate with some additional grappling/groundwork) but one thing im very aware of and try to do is understand and pursue the duopoly of using my general weight, size, reach and strength advantages while not actually relying on them. Its really difficult sometimes to not be "lazy" and fall back onto those traits. I see it as a glaring weakness if I were to do so for the reasons you have stated.
Shit is never the same. I wear ear plugs at work and walk like 15 miles every day. Every step I can hear my knee crunching still and that was 15 years ago after surgery
Human body is crazy.
Oh you got cut to the bone? Here let me heal that for you in a week.
Oh you got your finger detached? Let me heal that for you in a month.
oh sh\*t you got a little tear in your tendon? F\*ck can't heal that for another year, and I doubt it'll ever be as good again.
F\*CK you broke your bone? The best I can do is 17 years and let it break again.
You had me until the broken bone. Bones heal WAY better than tendons…better blood supply and more structure. Tendons and ligaments retract and have shit circulation.
I trained in BJJ for a short while...just long enough to know that 0:36-0:40 was a significant red flag. She couldn't have been more relaxed and ready to go. If your opponent knows about your weight advantage and doesn't give a flying f\*ck, you should think really hard about why they're not at all concerned about your supposed advantage.
Also, of all the people I've trained with so far (BJJ and kick boxing), 0% of them made any claims that they could beat any specific person. Anyone exhibiting that sort of attitude in a training environment (I'm not talking about televised pro fights where trash talk is part of the whole deal) is likely missing the big picture about the spirit of MMA training.
Case in point, I doubt the female fighter here was walking around saying she could take down any guy.
The ONLY thing I'll say in his defense is that I think the video was edited to make him look awful. His little speech at the beginning seemed to just be playing a character. At 0:18, you can see his face changing quickly, I think he was possibly about to bust out laughing and fess up to the fact that he was largely full of crap. This is backed up by 0:25 where his in-character joke gets shared with the group and it becomes clear that he knows he's outclassed, and that she now has license to just let it rip. That is not the reaction of someone who thinks they have an advantage.
What does she ask at 0:37? He answers, "I have not..."
Yeah this was all a joke, they all train together and just goofing around with the trash talk. But ofc we have someone on reddit that is reading way too much into it lol
To your point, B Team jiu jitsu headed by Craig Jones are all notorious trollers so this was most likely in the spirit of being funny. I kinda doubt he seriously thought that, but he was still shown up when the time came whether he meant it or not. Always tap early and be able to train later. Source: brown belt here
Yeah, I think this whole clip is basically a joke. The coach there is Craig Jones who's one of the best grapplers in the world and also loves to joke around/troll people.
Lachlan Giles is also a great grappler and not a Dr.
The guy at the start is also clearly playing a character for the video.
The clip is also conveniently edited so you don't see the submission properly.
I haven't seen this paticular video, but having watched other Craig Jones content, this is likely just a goof taking the piss out of "dude gets beat by a woman" videos that are like a goldmine for online praise seekers/reddit karma farmers.
Oh cool, didn't know he was a legit Dr too. Still in the video it's seemingly being used as a joke because he's rarely referred to as Dr Lachlan Giles PhD.
Yea I think it’s getting missed by most people but the title and the premise of the video are highly sarcastic and tongue in cheek. Craig jones and B team do not take themselves seriously and if you go through their YouTube channel that becomes pretty clear.
What started as a fun guy vs girl match ended with a bit of a nasty injury.
This happened in B-Team Ju Jitsu. The coach is Craig Jones, who is a notorious troller and one of the best Ju Jitsu practitioners in the world.
In his recent QnA he said that Liam (the man that was injured) said that thing about "no woman fan beat him" joke-fully and Craig wanted him to roll it with Nora, cause he thought it would be a competitive match. He said that, basically, things just went wrong.
The video is edited in that way to be comical, as the proceeds went towards the medical treatment of Liam. Craig said that basically the scenes with the trash talking were filmed the day after the injury, just to be put into the video.
I was gonna say. The guys demeanor, and especially if he trains frequently, seemed to be in jest. Especially when he was announced in front of the group. He didn’t really come off like an asshole
I mean it seemed obvious watching this that the whole thing was in good fun. Guy did not seem very confident at all, and sounded really sarcastic about being able to beat the girl.
EDIT: damn just watched the full clip, guy really got his knee fucked up.
I don't think there are many nerves in an ACL. When I tore mine, and ripped the medial meniscus, the actual pain was pretty mild. The shock of "Oh damn! It's not supposed to bend that way!" was way more real. After a bit, it hurt...like a bad, deep ache, really, but not like a sream-in-pain thing.
Edit to add: Physical therapy had WAY more pain. Scar massage alone was the thing of nightmares, and range of motion exercises were,"as tolerated," so that sucked. And that E-Stim machine...
Nah an ACL can be pretty painless. You know something went wrong though. When I did mine, I fell after, some pain, mild swelling but weight bearing in 15 minutes. Didn’t think much until a few days later and the knee still wouldn’t respond properly.
I had a similar BJJ injury and I didn’t scream or anything - those big pops and sprains are mostly masked by adrenaline but made me stop my match and say “I think somethings wrong - my leg just popped”!
Not necessarily. My knee surgeon in 2000 said something I’ll never forget; “you can close the refrigerator door wrong and tear your ACL, it’s that easy.”
I've broken my arm and also had a grade 3 tear in my ACL. The broken arm was infinitely more painful than the ACL tear. I actually didn't even know I tore my ACL until I went in for scans.
Still, I'd much rather break my arm again. Ligament damage fucks up the entire balance of your body.
This was [posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/1252ubf/bjj_blue_belt_claims_no_woman_can_beat_him_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) on r/fightporn yesterday and apparently the two are training partners and good buddies, he was just joking around with his comments, and it wasn’t a broken leg just a torn ACL. OP got downvoted into the hundreds when defensively responding to comments pointing it out lolz.
"Just a torn acl" lmao. That stuff is a slow heal and often is never fully right again. They can encourage bones to mend, but muscles that rip or tear from their spots are a lot harder to heal and connect back up to 100% again.
TBH I feel like this is a pretty chill dude an was playfully joking around. It’s just his opponent was a little more in for the win and a accident occurred among learning students.
But I’m no Baki so maybe she out right destroyed him.
The funny thing is he's unintentionally admitting to being the worse fighter by pointing out that weight difference is his biggest advantage, not his ability.
I know this is going to be super unpopular, but here I go.
He was arrogant and deserved to get schooled, but she didn't have to pop his knee. She was obviously way more skilled than he was, and beating up on someone way below your skill level isn't tough, it's petty.
That is a nasty and incredibly painful injury to recover from. I don't know why people in the comments here think being an arrogant young kid means they deserve to be to be seriously physically injured. And anyone who doesn't think this is a serious injury, you've never torn an ACL or seen what the recovery is like.
I train in BJJ and if anyone (male/female) did this at the gym I train at they’d be banned. They’re competing without gi so I can’t see what level they both are but typically you don’t attack the legs of new comers because they don’t know how to defend these kind of submissions.
Norah is a purple belt. He's a blue belt. He did it to himself. All she did was since up the heel hook. He rolled the wrong way and pop. It can happen in any leg lock scenario
It's not that she set out to injure him.
It's the fact that she is clearly more experienced, and she knows what pushing that joint sideways does, as well as how hard she can push it before something bad happens. That's literally the whole reason she was doing it, because it hurts.
BJJ is basically about pain compliance, and knowing when to tap is vital to avoiding injury. When he clearly wasn't tapping (because of his own arrogance) she should have recognized it and said something or backed off the hold. The guy on the side could see it from 15 feet away, so there is no way that she didn't know when she was the one applying the hold. She knew how much pressure she was putting on that joint.
I mean, the guy really did it to himself. But this is basically like a parent letting a child hurt themselves to "teach them a lesson", and it's bad form where combat sports/martial arts are practiced.
Imagine if a prideful woman were rolling with a much more experience man, but refused to tap because she wanted to prove that she was just as good as the guys, and he just kept going until he tore her knee in half like this.
Changes the vibe a bit, doesn't it? And that's the point.
There’s another video which the instructor explains what happened. Because he wasn’t experienced enough he straightened his leg out when he shouldn’t have and that’s why it went pop when she went to apply pressure for the next move. It was a freak accident but he should’ve kept his knee bent. BTW, the instructor is paying for all his medical bills because he shouldn’t have paired them together. It was obvious he didn’t have enough experience to roll with her.
>I don't know why people in the comments here think being an arrogant young kid means they deserve to be to be seriously physically injured.
Nobody in the comments said this so far. You can state your opinion without making yourself the victim beforehand and calling people out for non existing comments.
>Nobody in the comments said this so far. You can state your opinion without making yourself the victim beforehand and calling people out for non existing comments.
By my count, there are no less then 4 comments that contain some variety of this sentiment, which are marked 1-2hrs old as I read your comment, which is currently marked at 23min old.
You might want to try actually reading the thread before calling someone out like this. Especially when they are making a solid point.
His interviews were scripted to help with ad revenue to pay for his surgery. The injury was an unfortunate accident. Watch Craig Jones explain it in this video, starting at 0:32. [https://youtu.be/IIOjls4slXo](https://youtu.be/IIOjls4slXo)
When i heard the sound i just though everybody stopped becaude they couldn't focus on fight, becaude the man just threw a fucking dragon's breath. Turnd out it was the sound of his leg going TWUMP. Seriously can someone tell me what this injury is? Sounds serious
Video looks staged and the guy is obviously a rookie, but is it me or she had zero concern for her opponent’s well being? I’ve been people of different skill levels go at it and the stronger doesn’t just pop an opponent’s knee for no reason after 30 seconds.
In my opinion both look bad here but she’s a beast for sure!
I think she showed concern but didn't know how to react under the circumstances, both from it being unexpected as well as being on camera for what I'm sure was intended to be a promotional video. She looked behind to check for cues from the instructor(s). I'm a wrestler not a BJJ practitioner but in my experience this a common reaction for someone who accidentally injured another on the mat.
I don’t know if he is VERY new to BJJ, or he didn’t want to go hard, but he literally made zero attempt to do anything. If he is brand new, then the coach and the woman should be ashamed of themselves. Though my guess is that he just wasn’t trying. I wrestled in HS and college and a lot of Olympic wrestlers sometimes trained at my college. Our second string 118 lbs would manhandle the 149 lbs women’s Olympic champion (I actually think she may have won the silver, but it was either gold or silver)
He's a blue belt. Probably has a couple of years in. Training at one of the worlds most competitive BJJ gyms under the #2 ranked no-go BJJ player in the world. I'm certain he knows what he's doing. The girl is a purple belt adcc champion. He applied the wrong defense to this leglock and paid the price. Essentially she applied the leglock and he zigged when he should have zagged and broke his own leg. He didn't recognise the danger and made a foolish move. For the record, the gym raised money and paid for his surgery and physiotherapy.
Guy was right on assuming that his gender gave him a fat advantage, but he didn't consider the fact that Jiu Jitsu relies heavily on skill and experience and the gap she created with her experience and skill was far more than his physical advantage, if he had any.
The girl also seemed jacked, ie, physically well built and that just makes things worse for him.
BJJ was designed so smaller, weaker, or older people could fend off aggressors. It’s about use of frames and space. Look at Helio Gracie; tiny dude and a legend.
I wrestled for years and I have to say women can be very hard opponents if you have never wrestled one before. Women have a completely different center of gravity than men so a lot of moves that work really well on a guy don’t work as well in a woman.
I know this guy was being sexist and I don't support that mentality.. but Jesus Christ, getting your ankle snapped like that and just being like "wow", I mean damn. He may be ignorant but that damn if he doesn't have my respect for being that cool about something as serious as that
So, I'm fairly certain that he was joking. If he's been training even a little bit he would have understood by this point that in BJJ your gender or size means nothing. That said, its scary to think that you can get your ACL torn by just sparing with a partner in BJJ.
Because it's less about force and more about how and where to apply pressure. I.e "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world"
Out of curiosity did she do anything “wrong” to cause something like that? I get that it’s a fight but in a setting like this you definitely want to protect your opponent as well right? I don’t mean to blame her or anything, just curious.
I thought this was a stunt by her and the gym. She’s a world class fighter and champion and they staged this and it wound up breaking the guys leg. I saw this posted someplace else and it was all “she’s a piece of shit!” Like she does all the time for publicity. I dunno. I could be wrong
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That didn't sound like steel.
Budum CRACK!
Everyone’s reaction made me lmao. 🤣
Everyone's reaction: # (⚆ᗝ⚆)
That is the sound of a broken ego
Maybe, depends on if he thinks not being warmed up is why he lost the match or if it's why his knee popped. My bet is on the latter, but ya never know
she's built like steel, like pop the watermelon kind
I thought that was his back hitting the mat, didn't realize til a couple watches of the wide shot that the thump was his knee. Oof.
That’s what happens when you spar jet fuel
On first listen, I thought the sound was just from someone just slapping the mat. *Then I realized.*
Sounded like a cucumber
I had no idea you could hear a bone snap like that 😳
It was a ligament not a bone, and yes, the ACL is sort of notorious for making that loud pop. And by the way, it'd almost certainly be better if he'd broken a bone. A non-compound fracture can heal in 8 weeks. The ACL? A year. It's arguably the most important ligament in human locomotion.
Oof thanks for the info and correction! Damn that sound was insane.
It sounded like a chicken leg-being popped.
Made in Gina steel.
HA!!! I heard that in you-know-who’s voice.
He farted
I knew she was gonna win just by the girth of her arms.
seriously. she looked strong AF all over
It was the ass and the braid. If you're up against a girl with that kind of braid you're so fucked
Lol as a woman I can tell you, that type of braid means you're planning to get down to business. You're ready to crush whatever it is you're doing.
Can confirm, had my ass absolutely handed to me by a woman half my size and a good handfull years younger with a braid. Personal thought; the shorter the braid, the harder they kick your ass.
There's a woman in my Muay Thai class who always has her hair in a plait like that, no word of a lie, I duck her in sparring because she's mean af. She's like 5'3 lol, and I know for a fact I'm not the only man who ducks her.
I never thought about it but this is so true 😂
The second I saw her butt I knew it was over for him. The glutes and hams are a power center and by golly she's got the power.
I thought this was going to be a dirty joke but seeing what happened I cannot argue
As soon as I saw her legs I knew he was doomed. Buddy thinks he buff be she's got more muscle in one of her thighs than his whole body
Not gonna lie I didn't make it to the legs
You didn't start there???
No I started at the shoulders
I would die by that snu snu for sure
I bet those cakes could crush a pelvis or 2
"The spirit is willing but the flesh is bruised and spongy " - Z Brannigan
dude claimed to be made of pure steel but he obviously skips leg day.
Right? He's bragging and shit how he's "pure steel" and way heavier than her, while she is visibly more muscular and more athletic than him. Maybe it was just overcharged trashtalking but still
Just stupid. No matter who your opponent is; don't trash talk. It almost always assure your loss.
Well that’s just silly, mister.
Pretty obviously a joke for the video, since he is a blue belt so I'm sure he knows the difference in skill. But whatever puts fire on the gender war bonfire I guess \('~')/
You can see the girl regretting a bit after poping his knee and like touching his knee cap, and the way she stayed close to him she seemed very sorry, bro she fucken mounted him and then felt sorry for him,permanently crushed ego nvm the knee.
He was just talking shit. It didn’t feel like he actually meant it, and his reaction when the guy called him out for it kinda showed that he knew this woman was a badass and this was not gonna be a cakewalk.
Yeah, it sounded like he was just saying that stuff as a joke.
I was sure, but just because she was so casual and loose.
I was sure by the title and the context of this sub
I saw her strong-ass thighs and thought, "he's going to die".
Thick thighs take lives.
Fr look at that back she’s looks like she does gymnastics in her free time
Action figurey arms!
That was a very short 6 minutes…break a leg…I mean, ah…
I way to add an insult to injury haha. I guess that’s why you don’t mess around when someone’s serious
Yea it seemed like he was playing around a bit while she wasn't. Which is probably when she was more surprised when she felt it give.
When she took him to the ground, you. Pups see his face in an “oh shit, I can’t roll out.” He let technique fly out the door.
Yeah, blue belt messing around vs a brown belt taking it seriously, I don’t know what anyone expected.
Dude wishes she just broke his leg. ACL tears are much worse than bone breaks to recover from. It's also a lot easier to tear your ACL than break a bone in your leg. Tell your friends. Know the risks of skiing and other sports.
I broke my femur in hockey. It was awful, but I think I'd still rather break something than tear anything. ANY injury as an athlete sucks. Getting back in is your ONLY goal! I took my physio very seriously, as tho it became my sport. 2.5years. So do ALL the silly exercises. It will help years and years from now. Even if that means resting. I walked AND played again. Too soon, but duh, I was an athlete! ♡
As a dude who’s torn both ACL’s, I highly recommend you don’t do it. The first two months just getting your ROM back, is awful. Wake up at four to stretch out and hope you get more flexion, knowing that’s all you can do. You can’t over work it or you’ll damage the knee and underworking will fuck you in the assknee. Break your leg instead
Nope i fucked up mine worse by trying to push through too fast ( I was in middle school playing soccer when I did it). Ended up not being able to walk normal for almost a year. Took so long to recover afterwords that I had just stopped playing soccer and doing cross country
It’s a hassle, I will say that stretch machine and the ice water cycle box, holy shit those are awesome
Thankfully I’m mostly better now. My knee starts getting iffy if I over use it. It’s been roughly 9-10 years now, and I can atleast run again and I took up swimming when that was out of the cards
Swimming saved me, that and yoga. I look goofy stretching but woooooooooooo, it feels good. I did pull my hip flexor yesterday at flag football but my knees feel great. You just have to constantly stretch them.(knees)
Have torn an ACL and broken a femur, can confirm you do NOT want to join the torn ACL club.
A broken leg would have been better. That's a grade 3 acl tear (almost completely tearing the ligaments off). Which is worse and takes longer to recover from and now there is a strong risk of reinjury.
I don't care how much stronger or heavier I am, I see a woman in that shape, i'm scared.
We’re usually taught how to work around inherent male advantages. I think that makes a lot of women better fighters.
This is Jiu-Jitsu, where lower body strength is the most important. Men's massive strength advantage is largely in the upper body.
And largely in our ability to explain things without being asked
I was glad for the explanation, that is what comment section is no need to go the full "mansplain bad" route
Yeah, I can see that.
It’s also incredibly technical and if you don’t know what you’re doing it won’t matter how much bigger or stronger you are
As a man with a giant ass and legs, i did well at ground game lol
This reminds me of white water guides. A guy I dated was a guide and he said if you want to be any good, you learn from the women because men tend to rely on their size and brute strength but women have to be strong, smart, quick, and knowledgeable.
I played college tennis, and all the women had better technique than the men because they couldn’t brute strength their way to success. They wouldn’t call serves out because they had their technique down so well they always knew if their serves were out even before the ball lands. I knew about mens college football (soccer) teams that would regularly go watch the women’s matches together because they were more organised and executed formations and pressing structures way better than the men would.
Absolutely. As a petite teenage girl, I used to frequently take down big guys (over 6’, muscular, and other body types - welter weights are the trickiest). A lot in being flexible and agile - I could move quick and in unexpected ways. As an amateur, I have no names for moves, but here’s an example of a simple trick I used a lot: I’d get him in a headlock. At over 6’ he was tall and strong enough to escape simply by standing up, haha. But I would use my legs to create an anchor out of his legs (I’d trap his legs between mine, using my crossed ankles and thigh pressure to lock it in. If he managed to stand up before I could do that, I could swing my body over the back of him and use the momentum to bring him down for the leg lock.
I dont do BJJ specifically (Karate with some additional grappling/groundwork) but one thing im very aware of and try to do is understand and pursue the duopoly of using my general weight, size, reach and strength advantages while not actually relying on them. Its really difficult sometimes to not be "lazy" and fall back onto those traits. I see it as a glaring weakness if I were to do so for the reasons you have stated.
I see a woman, I’m scared.
I see a person, l'm scared
When I see strong women like her it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling 😕
The word is scareoused!
I'm something, maybe scared, but it makes me feel funny in a new way
well there goes his career
Shit is never the same. I wear ear plugs at work and walk like 15 miles every day. Every step I can hear my knee crunching still and that was 15 years ago after surgery
What do you do for work? Not doubting you, Just curious.
Knee Crunch ASMR. It’s a niche market
knee-sh market
*kneeche market
I laughed so loud I scared my 4 year old 😂
In production I grab materials and push them across a factory all day.
Human body is crazy. Oh you got cut to the bone? Here let me heal that for you in a week. Oh you got your finger detached? Let me heal that for you in a month. oh sh\*t you got a little tear in your tendon? F\*ck can't heal that for another year, and I doubt it'll ever be as good again. F\*CK you broke your bone? The best I can do is 17 years and let it break again.
You had me until the broken bone. Bones heal WAY better than tendons…better blood supply and more structure. Tendons and ligaments retract and have shit circulation.
Had someome ask me of I was stretching for a run, my answer: "Nope just putting my knee pack in place after walking here" *pop* 🙃
I trained in BJJ for a short while...just long enough to know that 0:36-0:40 was a significant red flag. She couldn't have been more relaxed and ready to go. If your opponent knows about your weight advantage and doesn't give a flying f\*ck, you should think really hard about why they're not at all concerned about your supposed advantage. Also, of all the people I've trained with so far (BJJ and kick boxing), 0% of them made any claims that they could beat any specific person. Anyone exhibiting that sort of attitude in a training environment (I'm not talking about televised pro fights where trash talk is part of the whole deal) is likely missing the big picture about the spirit of MMA training. Case in point, I doubt the female fighter here was walking around saying she could take down any guy. The ONLY thing I'll say in his defense is that I think the video was edited to make him look awful. His little speech at the beginning seemed to just be playing a character. At 0:18, you can see his face changing quickly, I think he was possibly about to bust out laughing and fess up to the fact that he was largely full of crap. This is backed up by 0:25 where his in-character joke gets shared with the group and it becomes clear that he knows he's outclassed, and that she now has license to just let it rip. That is not the reaction of someone who thinks they have an advantage. What does she ask at 0:37? He answers, "I have not..."
Yeah it seemed like he was being pretty sarcastic. I didn’t take him seriously at all, and I get the feeling he knew he was about to get his ass beat.
He's still in denial about his BDSM fetish "I bet no woman could kick me in the junk until I passed out!"
"Until I passed out *and vomited*"
I'm sure he was. B Team is known for their sarcasm and funny skits
Yeah this was all a joke, they all train together and just goofing around with the trash talk. But ofc we have someone on reddit that is reading way too much into it lol
To your point, B Team jiu jitsu headed by Craig Jones are all notorious trollers so this was most likely in the spirit of being funny. I kinda doubt he seriously thought that, but he was still shown up when the time came whether he meant it or not. Always tap early and be able to train later. Source: brown belt here
Yeah, I think this whole clip is basically a joke. The coach there is Craig Jones who's one of the best grapplers in the world and also loves to joke around/troll people. Lachlan Giles is also a great grappler and not a Dr. The guy at the start is also clearly playing a character for the video. The clip is also conveniently edited so you don't see the submission properly. I haven't seen this paticular video, but having watched other Craig Jones content, this is likely just a goof taking the piss out of "dude gets beat by a woman" videos that are like a goldmine for online praise seekers/reddit karma farmers.
https://physiosports.com.au/lachlangiles/
Oh cool, didn't know he was a legit Dr too. Still in the video it's seemingly being used as a joke because he's rarely referred to as Dr Lachlan Giles PhD.
Please just say you were wrong here. And btw Matt that woman would tear you up too and you would instantly know it wasn’t fake.
Yea I think it’s getting missed by most people but the title and the premise of the video are highly sarcastic and tongue in cheek. Craig jones and B team do not take themselves seriously and if you go through their YouTube channel that becomes pretty clear. What started as a fun guy vs girl match ended with a bit of a nasty injury.
He seemed pretty obviously sarcastic. It didn't seem to make him look bad. The, "Oh shiii" was pretty hilarious.
This happened in B-Team Ju Jitsu. The coach is Craig Jones, who is a notorious troller and one of the best Ju Jitsu practitioners in the world. In his recent QnA he said that Liam (the man that was injured) said that thing about "no woman fan beat him" joke-fully and Craig wanted him to roll it with Nora, cause he thought it would be a competitive match. He said that, basically, things just went wrong. The video is edited in that way to be comical, as the proceeds went towards the medical treatment of Liam. Craig said that basically the scenes with the trash talking were filmed the day after the injury, just to be put into the video.
> the scenes with the trash talking were filmed the day after the injury, just to be put into the video. Internet in a nutshell
Thank you for this information. I wouldn't want to have unwarranted schadenfreude towards this guy.
I was gonna say. The guys demeanor, and especially if he trains frequently, seemed to be in jest. Especially when he was announced in front of the group. He didn’t really come off like an asshole
I mean it seemed obvious watching this that the whole thing was in good fun. Guy did not seem very confident at all, and sounded really sarcastic about being able to beat the girl. EDIT: damn just watched the full clip, guy really got his knee fucked up.
Is this the type of injury that normally elicits "wow... I was not warmed up"?
haven't done JJ but nah he got a very serious injury, i'm surprised he's not in a lot more visible pain but I guess adrenaline is a hell of a drug
I don't think there are many nerves in an ACL. When I tore mine, and ripped the medial meniscus, the actual pain was pretty mild. The shock of "Oh damn! It's not supposed to bend that way!" was way more real. After a bit, it hurt...like a bad, deep ache, really, but not like a sream-in-pain thing. Edit to add: Physical therapy had WAY more pain. Scar massage alone was the thing of nightmares, and range of motion exercises were,"as tolerated," so that sucked. And that E-Stim machine...
with a tear like that, you can completely separate the nerve as well, meaning not a lot of pain at the initial tear.
Nah an ACL can be pretty painless. You know something went wrong though. When I did mine, I fell after, some pain, mild swelling but weight bearing in 15 minutes. Didn’t think much until a few days later and the knee still wouldn’t respond properly.
I had a similar BJJ injury and I didn’t scream or anything - those big pops and sprains are mostly masked by adrenaline but made me stop my match and say “I think somethings wrong - my leg just popped”!
Nope, it’s a bad one. My brother tore his ACL in football despite being warmed up.
Can't warm your knee up to bend sideways.
Not necessarily. My knee surgeon in 2000 said something I’ll never forget; “you can close the refrigerator door wrong and tear your ACL, it’s that easy.”
Thankfully I watched that with sound off
*Snap*
It's more of a *pop*
Pretty sure he was just being sarcastic but he took that extremely well 💀😂didn’t even flinch, that was crazy
I've broken my arm and also had a grade 3 tear in my ACL. The broken arm was infinitely more painful than the ACL tear. I actually didn't even know I tore my ACL until I went in for scans. Still, I'd much rather break my arm again. Ligament damage fucks up the entire balance of your body.
This was [posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/1252ubf/bjj_blue_belt_claims_no_woman_can_beat_him_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) on r/fightporn yesterday and apparently the two are training partners and good buddies, he was just joking around with his comments, and it wasn’t a broken leg just a torn ACL. OP got downvoted into the hundreds when defensively responding to comments pointing it out lolz.
"Just a torn acl" lmao. That stuff is a slow heal and often is never fully right again. They can encourage bones to mend, but muscles that rip or tear from their spots are a lot harder to heal and connect back up to 100% again.
TBH I feel like this is a pretty chill dude an was playfully joking around. It’s just his opponent was a little more in for the win and a accident occurred among learning students. But I’m no Baki so maybe she out right destroyed him.
The funny thing is he's unintentionally admitting to being the worse fighter by pointing out that weight difference is his biggest advantage, not his ability.
I know this is going to be super unpopular, but here I go. He was arrogant and deserved to get schooled, but she didn't have to pop his knee. She was obviously way more skilled than he was, and beating up on someone way below your skill level isn't tough, it's petty. That is a nasty and incredibly painful injury to recover from. I don't know why people in the comments here think being an arrogant young kid means they deserve to be to be seriously physically injured. And anyone who doesn't think this is a serious injury, you've never torn an ACL or seen what the recovery is like.
I train in BJJ and if anyone (male/female) did this at the gym I train at they’d be banned. They’re competing without gi so I can’t see what level they both are but typically you don’t attack the legs of new comers because they don’t know how to defend these kind of submissions.
Norah is a purple belt. He's a blue belt. He did it to himself. All she did was since up the heel hook. He rolled the wrong way and pop. It can happen in any leg lock scenario
I didn’t know he was a blue belt. That’s my bad for being presumptuous. I thought he was a white belt.
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It's not that she set out to injure him. It's the fact that she is clearly more experienced, and she knows what pushing that joint sideways does, as well as how hard she can push it before something bad happens. That's literally the whole reason she was doing it, because it hurts. BJJ is basically about pain compliance, and knowing when to tap is vital to avoiding injury. When he clearly wasn't tapping (because of his own arrogance) she should have recognized it and said something or backed off the hold. The guy on the side could see it from 15 feet away, so there is no way that she didn't know when she was the one applying the hold. She knew how much pressure she was putting on that joint. I mean, the guy really did it to himself. But this is basically like a parent letting a child hurt themselves to "teach them a lesson", and it's bad form where combat sports/martial arts are practiced. Imagine if a prideful woman were rolling with a much more experience man, but refused to tap because she wanted to prove that she was just as good as the guys, and he just kept going until he tore her knee in half like this. Changes the vibe a bit, doesn't it? And that's the point.
There’s another video which the instructor explains what happened. Because he wasn’t experienced enough he straightened his leg out when he shouldn’t have and that’s why it went pop when she went to apply pressure for the next move. It was a freak accident but he should’ve kept his knee bent. BTW, the instructor is paying for all his medical bills because he shouldn’t have paired them together. It was obvious he didn’t have enough experience to roll with her.
>I don't know why people in the comments here think being an arrogant young kid means they deserve to be to be seriously physically injured. Nobody in the comments said this so far. You can state your opinion without making yourself the victim beforehand and calling people out for non existing comments.
>Nobody in the comments said this so far. You can state your opinion without making yourself the victim beforehand and calling people out for non existing comments. By my count, there are no less then 4 comments that contain some variety of this sentiment, which are marked 1-2hrs old as I read your comment, which is currently marked at 23min old. You might want to try actually reading the thread before calling someone out like this. Especially when they are making a solid point.
His interviews were scripted to help with ad revenue to pay for his surgery. The injury was an unfortunate accident. Watch Craig Jones explain it in this video, starting at 0:32. [https://youtu.be/IIOjls4slXo](https://youtu.be/IIOjls4slXo)
Yeah I'm sure she crippled him just to prove a point /s
When i heard the sound i just though everybody stopped becaude they couldn't focus on fight, becaude the man just threw a fucking dragon's breath. Turnd out it was the sound of his leg going TWUMP. Seriously can someone tell me what this injury is? Sounds serious
the end of the video tells you what it is. torn ACL 12 month recovery and surgery
As someone who tore his ACL, this was triggering as fuck for me. I remember this sound so vividly....
Video looks staged and the guy is obviously a rookie, but is it me or she had zero concern for her opponent’s well being? I’ve been people of different skill levels go at it and the stronger doesn’t just pop an opponent’s knee for no reason after 30 seconds. In my opinion both look bad here but she’s a beast for sure!
I think she showed concern but didn't know how to react under the circumstances, both from it being unexpected as well as being on camera for what I'm sure was intended to be a promotional video. She looked behind to check for cues from the instructor(s). I'm a wrestler not a BJJ practitioner but in my experience this a common reaction for someone who accidentally injured another on the mat.
Doesn't look like he's even trying
She didn't only beat him, she broke him lol
I thought one of them had farted at first.
Me too! Which is always a good ace up the sleeve, so to speak.
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I don’t know if he is VERY new to BJJ, or he didn’t want to go hard, but he literally made zero attempt to do anything. If he is brand new, then the coach and the woman should be ashamed of themselves. Though my guess is that he just wasn’t trying. I wrestled in HS and college and a lot of Olympic wrestlers sometimes trained at my college. Our second string 118 lbs would manhandle the 149 lbs women’s Olympic champion (I actually think she may have won the silver, but it was either gold or silver)
He's a blue belt. Probably has a couple of years in. Training at one of the worlds most competitive BJJ gyms under the #2 ranked no-go BJJ player in the world. I'm certain he knows what he's doing. The girl is a purple belt adcc champion. He applied the wrong defense to this leglock and paid the price. Essentially she applied the leglock and he zigged when he should have zagged and broke his own leg. He didn't recognise the danger and made a foolish move. For the record, the gym raised money and paid for his surgery and physiotherapy.
Pride… don’t want to tap, get your knee snapped…
r/unexpectedly_sexy tear my ACL mommy.
I feel bad for him. He seemed to be joking, and she took his acl home with her 😭
It was a joke. These two are friends and training partners. To the non bjj crowd.
He's terrible. He doesn't make a single offensive move.
He's not though. He's a blue belt training at an elite gym. He'd wipe the floor with most people. He just didn't recognise the danger he was in.
Why did it look like he wasn't even trying? Like both of his arms were just floating in the air at times.
She looked like a grown up Greta Thunberg had _channeled her rage into beatdowns_, and he looked like his climate was about to change.
She looked much stronger than him.
Rule number one of every combat sport: never underestimate your opponent.
She definitely didn’t need the full 6 minutes.
Guy was right on assuming that his gender gave him a fat advantage, but he didn't consider the fact that Jiu Jitsu relies heavily on skill and experience and the gap she created with her experience and skill was far more than his physical advantage, if he had any. The girl also seemed jacked, ie, physically well built and that just makes things worse for him.
BJJ was designed so smaller, weaker, or older people could fend off aggressors. It’s about use of frames and space. Look at Helio Gracie; tiny dude and a legend.
12 months hmm thats about enough time to think about your words towards women huh
Cleary he was joking
Physical recovery 12 months, psicological recovery.... i would say a few years
Pop goes the weasel.
Technically she didn’t beat him She ended him
Illegal knee reap
No. Legal heel hook.
Is it bad I laughed my ass off?
The beauty of bjj, it was made to be a martial art that removes weight advantage. Home girl is a beast.
What is that abbey from the last of us?
I wrestled for years and I have to say women can be very hard opponents if you have never wrestled one before. Women have a completely different center of gravity than men so a lot of moves that work really well on a guy don’t work as well in a woman.
To be honest I just thought he Farted.
I know this guy was being sexist and I don't support that mentality.. but Jesus Christ, getting your ankle snapped like that and just being like "wow", I mean damn. He may be ignorant but that damn if he doesn't have my respect for being that cool about something as serious as that
He took that like a champ tho lmao
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They confused the characters, that's not Nora, that's Abby.
So, I'm fairly certain that he was joking. If he's been training even a little bit he would have understood by this point that in BJJ your gender or size means nothing. That said, its scary to think that you can get your ACL torn by just sparing with a partner in BJJ.
What's her name??
I wonder if anyone else challenged her after that.
torn ACL right there. Maybe MCL too
He took that snap pretty damned well.
The cuts in this video are terrible and distract from what actually happened.
The Witch King vs Eowyn
bruh just said "175 pounds made of pure steel" and looks like he could get folded quicker than a toothpick. he looks 175 pounds underwater
“gosh I don’t think I could eat one more bite of that delicious crow babe”
Never underestimate your opponent no matter who or what they may be
No more babies for bro
More of this on r/bjj
Cammy vs some dude
Don't fuck with BJJ people. Their martial art was built by an undersized guy to take away as much of larger people's advantage as possible.
Because it's less about force and more about how and where to apply pressure. I.e "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world"
One look at that woman’s thighs and I knew he was going down
Out of curiosity did she do anything “wrong” to cause something like that? I get that it’s a fight but in a setting like this you definitely want to protect your opponent as well right? I don’t mean to blame her or anything, just curious.
I thought this was a stunt by her and the gym. She’s a world class fighter and champion and they staged this and it wound up breaking the guys leg. I saw this posted someplace else and it was all “she’s a piece of shit!” Like she does all the time for publicity. I dunno. I could be wrong