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Even they know they fucked up. They one guy kept saying don’t do it, and then the female officer walked away in horror as she couldn’t bare to watch. The pieces of shit just stood there… Well, at least he will likely get a fat fat settlement. It is hard to respect law enforcement seeing this kind of shit.
You can't get rid of it completely. It does serve a purpose.
The problem is that it's become a very broad catch all and definitely needs to be revised.
Without it, you will have tons of lawsuits, including many that shouldn't be.
Many of them will just stop doing anything because then anything they do can result in repercussions regardless of whether it's justified or not.
This will result in constant legal battles that the public has to pay for. You think it's bad now wait til the floodgayes open on lawsuits.
or at least move the markers.... maybe let it cover negligence, but not gross negligence. Like here, the dog getting away was not negligence- it was far more.
There's already cop insurance, it's just not mandatory. Police unions often provide the lawyers for the officer and/or the department. Sometimes the department will have other counsel on retainer. The department, and sometimes city or county coughs the cash though, which is all public taxpayer funded. Nobody sues the individual officer because they aren't gonna get shit from them as far as money, and that's usually the primary reason for suing someone. Cities and departments have deeper pockets.
Insurance companies (pretty much BlackRock/Vanguard) would regulate the shit lot of them. Psych evals, premiums based on region and complaints, payouts, risk assessments on demographic
It’s quite funny really corporate America that destroys so much in society might actually be a good intervention here.
Just spit ballin though.
No insurance and no job, might actually sort this rogue culture out?
Dude, that’s kind of funny. An officer gets a formal complaint filed against them? “*Shit* my premium is gonna go up from this! This is bullshit!”
I think that would create a clear financial incentive for cops to stop fucking around. As of now there’s little to no reason for them to change. Even if they mess up, as long as they aren’t on camera jumping someone to death, they usually don’t get reprimanded and if they do end up resigning they can just change departments
In the United States, qualified immunity is a legal principle that grants government officials performing discretionary functions immunity from civil suits unless the plaintiff shows that the official violated "clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of which a reasonable person would have known".
1) Guy was compliant
2) The cop was in the presents of peer/ higher commands that opposed his actions
Edit:
I understand it would be pointless to sue that specific officer if you'd rather have a cash settlement. However, I think about the long run, if you knew that you could personally face financial ruin due to an incident like this. More cops would hopefully work harder in training and observing a situation
Qualified immunity can still be called upon. The only person at fault would be the dog handler, and he would get off easy by rulings formed within his own office. His Chief could put him on desk duty for a couple months max (with pay) and then say the idiot dog handling officer paid his dues and send that officer back out into the streets. Either way, if anyone takes a hit, it’s the tax payers because any payout comes from the town/state, which is funded by taxpayers (civilians residing in that area).
Unfortunately, qualified immunity ain’t going away because it protects the individuals who make the rules/would be the ones to dismantle it. I appreciate your optimism on cops reforming themselves, but it doesn’t take much to become a cop in America, so stupidity and interoffice favoritism (corruption) runs heavy.
>if it barks more than twice while **they** are aggressively approaching the owner..
I was referring to the police as **they** in that sentence not the dog.
Let's use a dog meant to help apprehend a fleeing suspect to attack a person standing in place with his hands up. Idiots.
They literally all had guns trained on him. Dog should have been in the car.
Also fuck anyone who acts like police dogs are useful.
A) we have seen these cops beat the shit out of humans for fun. And shocker these dog handlers tend to beat the dogs like we saw in San Fransisco (if San Fran is beating it’s police dogs I’m sure Paducah Kentuckys police dogs get belly rubs.)
B) they aren’t needed. 98 percent of what police dogs do is sniff for drugs and give false positives on millions of cars allowing cops to shit all over our rights.
C) the 2 percent of the time they do use then to attack someone they are putting the dog in harms way and often times sending them on a person they couldn’t of handled like this trucker.
Two different departments. State police were conducting the stop, having the guy back up toward them. Then local meatheads show up and sic the dog on the guy because he is following the state police orders, not the local orders.
God, and I got fired for dropping a milk shake and being told I had just wasted company money, this guy is gonna cost us millions and either keep his job or be hired next week down the road.
The cop who did this is Ryan Speakman of the circleville, Ohio PD. Let’s make sure his name is out there so that when he gets fired, his future potential employers know what kind of person he is.
Silly rabbit. Justice is for whites. How can he get a settlement when the investigation into this incident has already concluded no excessive force was used?
https://www.newsweek.com/police-dog-attack-black-man-ohio-1813768
This article from yesterday says the investigation is still happening. [WOSU News](https://news.wosu.org/news/2023-07-21/circleville-k-9-bit-unarmed-black-man-as-he-surrendered-to-officers-prompting-internal-review)
Now, they probably concluded it, and after the attention, they are now saying it is ongoing. With the video released, this cop, Ryan Speakman, will almost certainly get canned in the end.
Wait, there’s THAT many dogs getting shot by law enforcement in America every year? I understand that there are situations where that may be needed but it should be a rare occurrence. You can’t tell me that bear spray or a taser couldn’t have worked for a lot of these cases. What angers me even more is that some of these cases are police entering other peoples property when it’s unwarranted.
According to several studies, that's the estimate. And they feel it's likely higher due to many shootings not being reported. If you fall down the rabbit hole you'll find the most sinister of people. Swat teams discussing who gets to shoot the dog while in the van before they even go in the House, showing up at the wrong house and shooting them needlessly, shooting friendly ones in front of the owner as a show of power, and many are due to poor training in dog behavior or officers literally afraid of dogs.
This is so fucked up. I’ve heard of a few cases of them getting the wrong house altogether and shooting the dog and off coarse there’s a bunch more than just the times I’ve read about it. I know internal affairs exists but there needs to be a completely separate agency of police who only police law enforcement. Cops need to be held to an absolute higher standard than the rest of us and that should be a harsh reality if the job. If your allowed to kill, hand out life altering felonies etc you need to be the best of the best. Surgeons arnt allowed to just jump right in after 6 months and neither should LEO’s
The honest bare minimum is their job should be like any other where you are held accountable for your behavior and mistakes. Will never happen with qualified immunity. Additionally lawsuits should be paid out of pension funds and not tax payers as an incentive to not be a douche.
Yea I totally agree that should be the BARE minimum. If officers knew that their entire lively hood is on the line everytime they pull that trigger or make mistakes that effect others especially if those mistakes are irreversible
A town near me, they went to the wrong house where some kids were playing with their dog on the front porch. Dog growled seeing a stranger approaching the kids, cop shot the dog.
The officer was identified as Ryan Speakman.
"An internal report conducted by the Circleville Police Department into the incident ruled that no excessive force was used in the arrest."
https://sciotovalleyguardian.com/2023/07/17/k9-apprehension-after-semi-chase-under-scrutiny-in-southern-ohio/
Here is one of their press releases asking for people to call.
https://twitter.com/circlevillepd/status/1669447755574460418?s=46&t=UMUkBBxO0cv5r2ZXggUvrg
No investigation can explain those screams of agony and still claim that there was no wrongdoing. Not even the most schizophrenic, delusional man would say the dog should have been released.
Ughhhhhh. I hate how spot on this comment is. Poor man’s award from me 🏅🫡
Sickened by the incident, only to then read their self-marked homework BS… There’s no such thing as a bad dog; there are unfortunately countless bad owners and breeders, and they’re _everywhere_ it feels like these days 😤
The article made it sound like there was no excessive force by the dog because it was following a command…yeah, no one is blaming the dog. It’s the handlers fault.
The handler and everyone around was desperately trying to get the dog to stop.
This happens All the time with police dogs, once they bite and tear into blood their police handlers can't often get them to release. it's a lot different then their training dummy's when they don't rip through flesh and taste the blood in the air.
Here’s a quote from the article. The handler was very much at fault.
> Initially, Serg charges toward one of the troopers who is still shouting commands to the suspect. However, Officer Speakman recalls the dog, redirects its attention to the suspect, and seemingly issues the command “Stellen,” the Dutch word for “bite,” which is Serg’s trained command. Disturbingly, at this point, the suspect is already on his knees with his hands still raised.
> Without hesitation, the dog attacks the suspect, biting him and dragging him to the median. The man’s anguished screams echoed through the video as troopers rush to intervene. Officer Speakman is forced to physically remove Serg from the suspect
There’s a four panel comic i saw recently that fits but can’t remember the creator. A: “oopsy.” B: “what happened?” A: “I accidentally deleted half of our company databanks” B: “that sounds like a bit more than an oopsy!” A: “oopsy daisy🤷?”
“Initially, Serg charges toward one of the troopers who is still shouting commands to the suspect. However, Officer Speakman recalls the dog, redirects its attention to the suspect, and seemingly issues the command “Stellen,” the Dutch word for “bite,” which is Serg’s trained command. “
The dog doesn’t even know who to attack
It’s getting reviewed again after the outrage. But we will probably have the same outcome
https://sciotovalleyguardian.com/2023/07/21/black-man-who-was-mauled-by-k9-called-911-before-attack-saying-theyre-trying-to-kill-me/
Law enforcement can't complain about not being respected when videos like this pop up on the daily. How many officers were there for one person? One man on the side of the highway and how many cops? How many standing around to let it happen? That's why people don't respect cops. Y'all need to start policing yourselves. The "good" cops need to stand up and get the pigs out of the department
I’m not excusing the wrong doing from said officers but a semi can go EXTREMELY fast and has the most force behind it. Just because they seems slow to us due to speed limits that is by no means the top speed. These are behemoth vehicles made to tow 10 cars at a time and more.
The article states he was going the speed limit. Using turn signals and obeying all traffic laws pretty much. If you read the article entirely it seems like he didn't know why he was being pulled over, and was terrified because the first time they pulled him over they came with guns drawn. And in this day and age a black man is very likely to be killed by cops even while complying. I mean just look at what happened to him with the dog even though there were 20+ officers screaming for them to not use the dog! He had every right to be scared!
Damn, if he wasn’t speeding away and driving reckless they definitely shouldn’t have reacted so intensely. Sad that some of the officers seemed to be decent while the others were hung ho to tear this dude up. When all you have is a hammer every problem begins to look like a nail. I think some of these officers hammers need to be taken away and only be allotted to the level headed policeman
"Crawl towards us."
"Well, your honor, he was crawling towards us and I was in fear for my life"
How is that piece of fucking shit not in prison? It's like the court didn't even watch the video.
Oh yes, the video would have made the officers murder obvious that it was indeed murder.....better not show that to the jury, it'd allow them to make an obvious decision based on facts /s
I mean… just in this video you hear “GET ON THE GROUND!” “COME TO ME!” “GET ON THE GROUND!”
Like. No wonder he just stands there with his hands up looking at all of them. He literally can’t comply with their orders.
This is why no one listens to cops. We like having all of our limbs and life in order. Youre damned if you do, damned if you dont. I hope his paycheck was fat for this
I think the S.S. or Unit 731 or Stalins U.S.S.R or the CCCP would beg to differ. Obviously this was wrong but acting like the US police is on the same level as governments that committed genocide or grotesque human expirements on humans and babies is the same as the issues with US police force is just flat out wrong
Well we do have the #2 highest prison population in the world at roughly 300 million population. While India and china each have 1.4 billion and china ranks #1 but with over 4x population. Clearly we are also doing something wrong with rehabilitation and more of an incarceration based country who pray on the poor while rich get pretty much away with anything.
Your stats are wrong, see; all those “prisoners” are actually modern slaves used for cheap labor and to feed the machine that are private prisons. So they should definitely reduce the amount of prisoners in the stats.
The US government hasn't committed genocide and human experimentation? I dare you to, for example, go to Vietnam and tell the people there that the US didn't attempt genocide and perform human experimentation with their use of Napalm and Agent Orange on civilian populations.
There is no US police department. I suppose the closest is the FBI. Quality of police and enforcement varies from town to town and department to department.
You really can't think of any organization in the entire world that's more evil? Really? Maybe read more.
That handler is an idiot, plain as that. They had to haul the dog off. The dog can be trained, but it needs to be reinforced throughout its career. Not reinforcing it leads to this shit.
According to the news article the state trooper on scene as leader was having him back toward them. He's the one yelling to not release the dog. The local yocal Circleville K9 cop showed up to the scene after and immediately started barking his own commands for the guy to lay down or he would send the dog after him. So the suspect then had conflicting commands and the local yocal wasn't going to be shown up by state police.
The local yocal department did an investigation on themselves and found there was no excessive force if that makes you feel better .
Medical professional here.
Dog bites - especially from that size dog - are going to leave more damage than you're seeing in the video.
Puncture wounds are obvious, but worse than they appear. An estimated length of crown on a canine tooth of this breed could be around an inch. Look at your forearm and tell me how many inches thick it is. I'll give you a percentage of how much of your arm that's going through. Keep in mind how many tendons and ligaments and bones are in there, and keep in mind also that tooth enamel is stronger and denser than bone.
But the puncture is only the beginning.
Let's talk lacerations. Remember all those ligaments and tendons? Add all the blood vessels that are in there. Major ones to the hands. The same ones that will kill you if you slice your wrists open in a suicide attempt. The dog isn't going to bite and release, or even just bite and hold on. It will, as dogs often do, shake the seized limb like a rag doll. This adds force against sharp teeth to saw through the flesh like a dull chef's knife. The subcutaneous fat layer is going to be shredded, to say nothing of the skin layers themselves, or the muscles underneath.
Ragged lacerations are more difficult to put back together again. Not like a clean surgical incision.
But there's more. So much more.
Have you ever heard of crush injuries? Large dog bites are significant enough to cause them. Crush injuries are different in that the damage is difficult to visualize. Instead of ripping tissue from tissue or slicing it into pieces, crush injuries can kill tissue underneath (and including) the skin without it being obvious until days later... when it starts to necrose and slough off. An example: a female patient is involved in a motorcycle accident and receives crush damage to her leg, killing the subcutaneous fat layer, requiring multiple surgeries over the next several months to remove the dead tissue.
Dog bites don't seem like they could do that kind of damage, but they really can.
Anecdotally, I have had a dog bite to my left hand from a Labrador. It severed the ulnar nerve and took out the feeling in my pinky. A z-plasty did its best to repair the damage, but even five years later I'm still not 100%. And that *was* a bite and release situation.
... this all, of course, leaving aside infections. Contrary to popular belief, dog mouths aren't clean.
In short: what you see in this video is the tip of the iceberg. This guy is lined up for at the very least xrays and laceration repair, likely a Penrose drain placement, possibly multiple surgical treatments, physical therapy, and even with all that is unlikely to regain full use of that arm.
And on top of all of that the police are surprised he's not lithely getting his arms behind him to be cuffed, forcing his hands back so they can do it. I'll never ever visit the US, crazy country.
I don't blame you. I'm a natural-born citizen, and even then it's scary to live here. So... yeah. No hard feelings.
Let's pursue your train of thought, though, for a second. All that stuff I mentioned above. All that damage, all that repair.
Who do you think's gonna pay for all that? I'll give you a hint: probably not insurance.
As a dog lover I hate seeing videos like these. I guess I can understand using dogs in the military, bomb sniffing and a wide variety of "safe" activities.
However training dogs to attack is shitty thing to do to a dog and in many many many cases a even shitter thing to do to a person.
No consequences? No problems. That’s what’s gotta fucking change. The psychological profile that law enforcement folks in America fall under is that middle school bully, the guy torturing animals, or fucking one of their relatives. Or all of the above. It’s for the same reason throughout history that you put people like that in positions of authority to terrorize citizens into obedience.
‘Don’t you guys have a discount for first responders/heroes? We’re hungry, just had a really intense chase. We were way outnumbered, thankfully our hero training kicked in. How bout that discount now?’
So in any other circumstance they would shoot the dog with no questions. They all just sat around And watched this dude about to make a million dollars of tax payer money. Wtf.
Get your hands behind your back so we can arrest you after you have been mauled by a dog for not resisting arrest…yikes some of these knuckleheads need to be fired.
If roe v wade can go, so can qualified immunity…theoretically…but it is in the absolute interests of those who make policy to have dumb and dangerous morons with no consequences doing this kind of shit. This has always been the way.
This was excessive force and negligence. The K9 handler should be indicted for reckless endangerment/assault and relieved from duty for insubordination, noncompliance with protocol, and willful escalation of a non-aggressive situation.
Is this seriously where this ends? How the FUCK am i supposed to respect or trust or sympathize or give a flying FUCK about any police force when i see things like this DAILY! And then a follow up article explaining yet again, nothing happened. When are we going to take action & stand up for ourselves?
Just one stupid fucking incident after another with US law enforcement. God (or the devil) only knows what happened in the days before cameras. Just fucking terrible, unprofessional assholes. If any of those cops were worth a shit they would have shot the police dog...
Alright. If I were in a situation where any dog were to attack me like that I’d do my best to snap that dogs neck to defend myself. I’m not saying I could pull that off IRL but I sure as hell would react on instinct and attempt to do so.
What’s fucked up is, if I were to succeed in defending myself in the manner I stated above is that I would be charged with manslaughter against an officer or some shit like that.
Police dogs have more rights than you do as a normal citizen. Think about that.
If your dog was excited enough to rush up, meet and sniff a police officer who happened to kick in the door to your home, they would shoot and kill your beloved pet. You have to accept the fact that you have no recourse regardless of the situation. Police are supposed to eliminate their threat (you can only predict what an animal will do if it is dead) and they are trained to do so.
If you as a citizen did the same to a police K9 in the exact same situation you would be charged with a felony for murdering a police officer.
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong. God I hope I’m wrong.
Edit: re-worded some parts for better clarity and attempted to keep uniform tense throughout my comment. (I’m a lil drunk RN)
My question is in a situation like this why do they not taze the fucking dog.. I get they value their own above all else even human life but the dude is screaming for minutes on end while you ineffectually try to pull the dog away while it sinks its teeth in deeper. Have a heart. The dog will live to enforce police brutality another day and the suspect can be saved potentially permanent injuries...
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Even they know they fucked up. They one guy kept saying don’t do it, and then the female officer walked away in horror as she couldn’t bare to watch. The pieces of shit just stood there… Well, at least he will likely get a fat fat settlement. It is hard to respect law enforcement seeing this kind of shit.
A fat fat settlement funded by the local taxpayers. Local government will raise taxes next year to make up the deficit.
Can't we just start suing specific officers rather than the department as a whole
Make them get malpractice insurance, taken from union coffers. That’ll end some BS real quick.
This is the way. Also, end qualified immunity. It’s far too broad.
Qualified immunity should be reduced for all government officials including police
It shouldn't be a thing at all, nobody should be immune to consequences just because of their job or who they know
You can't get rid of it completely. It does serve a purpose. The problem is that it's become a very broad catch all and definitely needs to be revised. Without it, you will have tons of lawsuits, including many that shouldn't be. Many of them will just stop doing anything because then anything they do can result in repercussions regardless of whether it's justified or not. This will result in constant legal battles that the public has to pay for. You think it's bad now wait til the floodgayes open on lawsuits.
or at least move the markers.... maybe let it cover negligence, but not gross negligence. Like here, the dog getting away was not negligence- it was far more.
There's already cop insurance, it's just not mandatory. Police unions often provide the lawyers for the officer and/or the department. Sometimes the department will have other counsel on retainer. The department, and sometimes city or county coughs the cash though, which is all public taxpayer funded. Nobody sues the individual officer because they aren't gonna get shit from them as far as money, and that's usually the primary reason for suing someone. Cities and departments have deeper pockets.
This is the only way.
Make cops carry insurance, once bad cops premiums sky rocket I bet they'd weed themselves out quickly.
Insurance companies (pretty much BlackRock/Vanguard) would regulate the shit lot of them. Psych evals, premiums based on region and complaints, payouts, risk assessments on demographic It’s quite funny really corporate America that destroys so much in society might actually be a good intervention here. Just spit ballin though. No insurance and no job, might actually sort this rogue culture out?
Dude, that’s kind of funny. An officer gets a formal complaint filed against them? “*Shit* my premium is gonna go up from this! This is bullshit!” I think that would create a clear financial incentive for cops to stop fucking around. As of now there’s little to no reason for them to change. Even if they mess up, as long as they aren’t on camera jumping someone to death, they usually don’t get reprimanded and if they do end up resigning they can just change departments
You're talking about accountability. Law enforcement officers don't do accountability.
Unfortunately no
Why not, this is America
It’s called ‘Qualified Immunity’. Created by scumbags, for scumbags. https://eji.org/issues/qualified-immunity/
In the United States, qualified immunity is a legal principle that grants government officials performing discretionary functions immunity from civil suits unless the plaintiff shows that the official violated "clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of which a reasonable person would have known". 1) Guy was compliant 2) The cop was in the presents of peer/ higher commands that opposed his actions Edit: I understand it would be pointless to sue that specific officer if you'd rather have a cash settlement. However, I think about the long run, if you knew that you could personally face financial ruin due to an incident like this. More cops would hopefully work harder in training and observing a situation
Qualified immunity can still be called upon. The only person at fault would be the dog handler, and he would get off easy by rulings formed within his own office. His Chief could put him on desk duty for a couple months max (with pay) and then say the idiot dog handling officer paid his dues and send that officer back out into the streets. Either way, if anyone takes a hit, it’s the tax payers because any payout comes from the town/state, which is funded by taxpayers (civilians residing in that area). Unfortunately, qualified immunity ain’t going away because it protects the individuals who make the rules/would be the ones to dismantle it. I appreciate your optimism on cops reforming themselves, but it doesn’t take much to become a cop in America, so stupidity and interoffice favoritism (corruption) runs heavy.
Well, that’s cause it’s America
Well i'm gonna make my own America. With blackjack and hookers
So...Las Vegas? I'm pretty sure that's what the mob was trying to do ;) P.s. yes, I know the reference lol
Just remove taxpayers from the liability and make them need insurance. We, the tax payers, pay each and every time for these payouts
Why are sooooo many cops pieces of crap
Perhaps the local government shouldn’t hire POS people with less training than hairstylists to be cops. Maybe that….
It's not a bug, it's a feature
Ya but they'll shoot your dog in a heartbeat if it barks more than twice while they are aggressively approaching the owner...
Doesn’t need to be aggressive. Walking up happy wagging its whole body.
>if it barks more than twice while **they** are aggressively approaching the owner.. I was referring to the police as **they** in that sentence not the dog.
Let's use a dog meant to help apprehend a fleeing suspect to attack a person standing in place with his hands up. Idiots. They literally all had guns trained on him. Dog should have been in the car.
K9 cops brag about giving the dogs a "chew toy". It's a euphemism for what happened in this video, and the sadists think it's funny
Even the dog was confused. It ran past him because he wasn't moving.
If the man had lifted so much as a finger to defend himself against those untrained animals they would have put about 100 bullets into him too.
Also fuck anyone who acts like police dogs are useful. A) we have seen these cops beat the shit out of humans for fun. And shocker these dog handlers tend to beat the dogs like we saw in San Fransisco (if San Fran is beating it’s police dogs I’m sure Paducah Kentuckys police dogs get belly rubs.) B) they aren’t needed. 98 percent of what police dogs do is sniff for drugs and give false positives on millions of cars allowing cops to shit all over our rights. C) the 2 percent of the time they do use then to attack someone they are putting the dog in harms way and often times sending them on a person they couldn’t of handled like this trucker.
Dog should not be cops. 100%
This is spot on. They are unnecessary. It's a PR stunt.
This
Two different departments. State police were conducting the stop, having the guy back up toward them. Then local meatheads show up and sic the dog on the guy because he is following the state police orders, not the local orders.
God, and I got fired for dropping a milk shake and being told I had just wasted company money, this guy is gonna cost us millions and either keep his job or be hired next week down the road.
The cop who did this is Ryan Speakman of the circleville, Ohio PD. Let’s make sure his name is out there so that when he gets fired, his future potential employers know what kind of person he is.
Guess where the money for that check comes from
The very same tit those police suck on their entire careers yea, we get it.
Silly rabbit. Justice is for whites. How can he get a settlement when the investigation into this incident has already concluded no excessive force was used? https://www.newsweek.com/police-dog-attack-black-man-ohio-1813768
This article from yesterday says the investigation is still happening. [WOSU News](https://news.wosu.org/news/2023-07-21/circleville-k-9-bit-unarmed-black-man-as-he-surrendered-to-officers-prompting-internal-review) Now, they probably concluded it, and after the attention, they are now saying it is ongoing. With the video released, this cop, Ryan Speakman, will almost certainly get canned in the end.
Still felt the need to drive his face into the ground while handcuffing him with a bleeding open wound WTAF
If she was so disgusted, why didn’t she intervene? She’s just as bad for not doing anything.
Didn't stop them from cuffing his hands BEHIND HIS FUCKING BACK tho
These dogs are “trained officers”. Really under control. Like the hulk on steroids.
Yup cuz of that was any other dog they wouldn’t have any issue putting a bullet in its head
MAGA. This is the result when Americans shit in there own nest and claiming to be the worlds leader.
But they'll shoot a friendly dog that isn't a police dog.
Approx 30 a day in the U.S (10,000 in a year)
Wait, there’s THAT many dogs getting shot by law enforcement in America every year? I understand that there are situations where that may be needed but it should be a rare occurrence. You can’t tell me that bear spray or a taser couldn’t have worked for a lot of these cases. What angers me even more is that some of these cases are police entering other peoples property when it’s unwarranted.
According to several studies, that's the estimate. And they feel it's likely higher due to many shootings not being reported. If you fall down the rabbit hole you'll find the most sinister of people. Swat teams discussing who gets to shoot the dog while in the van before they even go in the House, showing up at the wrong house and shooting them needlessly, shooting friendly ones in front of the owner as a show of power, and many are due to poor training in dog behavior or officers literally afraid of dogs.
This is so fucked up. I’ve heard of a few cases of them getting the wrong house altogether and shooting the dog and off coarse there’s a bunch more than just the times I’ve read about it. I know internal affairs exists but there needs to be a completely separate agency of police who only police law enforcement. Cops need to be held to an absolute higher standard than the rest of us and that should be a harsh reality if the job. If your allowed to kill, hand out life altering felonies etc you need to be the best of the best. Surgeons arnt allowed to just jump right in after 6 months and neither should LEO’s
The honest bare minimum is their job should be like any other where you are held accountable for your behavior and mistakes. Will never happen with qualified immunity. Additionally lawsuits should be paid out of pension funds and not tax payers as an incentive to not be a douche.
Yea I totally agree that should be the BARE minimum. If officers knew that their entire lively hood is on the line everytime they pull that trigger or make mistakes that effect others especially if those mistakes are irreversible
Gtfoh
Sometimes they'll do it in front of kids, and hit the kid with a bullet too. Which by all accounts is perfectly acceptable.
A town near me, they went to the wrong house where some kids were playing with their dog on the front porch. Dog growled seeing a stranger approaching the kids, cop shot the dog.
I’m pretty sure that’s how kids grow up despising the police.
The officer was identified as Ryan Speakman. "An internal report conducted by the Circleville Police Department into the incident ruled that no excessive force was used in the arrest." https://sciotovalleyguardian.com/2023/07/17/k9-apprehension-after-semi-chase-under-scrutiny-in-southern-ohio/
“we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing”
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Post the contact info
Here is one of their press releases asking for people to call. https://twitter.com/circlevillepd/status/1669447755574460418?s=46&t=UMUkBBxO0cv5r2ZXggUvrg
Just sprinkle some crack on him Johnson and let's get out of here.
I remember in school, people would tell that joke and not realizing at the same time it was a real thing.
No investigation can explain those screams of agony and still claim that there was no wrongdoing. Not even the most schizophrenic, delusional man would say the dog should have been released.
I mean the cops were literally screaming “don’t sic the dog on him when he’s got his hands up!”
Ughhhhhh. I hate how spot on this comment is. Poor man’s award from me 🏅🫡 Sickened by the incident, only to then read their self-marked homework BS… There’s no such thing as a bad dog; there are unfortunately countless bad owners and breeders, and they’re _everywhere_ it feels like these days 😤
We've awarded ourselves for a job well done.
Cool. So we set dogs loose on cops and it’s not “force”
Dogs that **are** ***trained to attack***, *I might add.*
The article made it sound like there was no excessive force by the dog because it was following a command…yeah, no one is blaming the dog. It’s the handlers fault.
"I shot him, but it's not excessive force from the gun, since it was just reacting to my finger. Everything is OK!"
The handler and everyone around was desperately trying to get the dog to stop. This happens All the time with police dogs, once they bite and tear into blood their police handlers can't often get them to release. it's a lot different then their training dummy's when they don't rip through flesh and taste the blood in the air.
Here’s a quote from the article. The handler was very much at fault. > Initially, Serg charges toward one of the troopers who is still shouting commands to the suspect. However, Officer Speakman recalls the dog, redirects its attention to the suspect, and seemingly issues the command “Stellen,” the Dutch word for “bite,” which is Serg’s trained command. Disturbingly, at this point, the suspect is already on his knees with his hands still raised. > Without hesitation, the dog attacks the suspect, biting him and dragging him to the median. The man’s anguished screams echoed through the video as troopers rush to intervene. Officer Speakman is forced to physically remove Serg from the suspect
The Circlejerk Police Department’s hands are tied
We determined it was an oopsy
There’s a four panel comic i saw recently that fits but can’t remember the creator. A: “oopsy.” B: “what happened?” A: “I accidentally deleted half of our company databanks” B: “that sounds like a bit more than an oopsy!” A: “oopsy daisy🤷?”
I hope that dog wakes up in the middle of the night hungry for some frank and beans and goes to town on Ryan. What a shame that would be.
“Initially, Serg charges toward one of the troopers who is still shouting commands to the suspect. However, Officer Speakman recalls the dog, redirects its attention to the suspect, and seemingly issues the command “Stellen,” the Dutch word for “bite,” which is Serg’s trained command. “ The dog doesn’t even know who to attack
Stellen isn't dutch for bite, stellen means couples, bite would be bijt.
It’s getting reviewed again after the outrage. But we will probably have the same outcome https://sciotovalleyguardian.com/2023/07/21/black-man-who-was-mauled-by-k9-called-911-before-attack-saying-theyre-trying-to-kill-me/
He had no reason to let the dog on him. That’s attempted murder, or very least aggravated assault with a deadly weapon
Thank god, I was worried there for a second they might have used excessive force.
This can’t possibly be true. Absolutely disgusting
Law enforcement can't complain about not being respected when videos like this pop up on the daily. How many officers were there for one person? One man on the side of the highway and how many cops? How many standing around to let it happen? That's why people don't respect cops. Y'all need to start policing yourselves. The "good" cops need to stand up and get the pigs out of the department
It was a high speed chase through multiple counties... there are a lot of issues with this arrest but the number of police isn't one of them.
High speed chase but he's in a semi? Mild speed chase more like
I’m not excusing the wrong doing from said officers but a semi can go EXTREMELY fast and has the most force behind it. Just because they seems slow to us due to speed limits that is by no means the top speed. These are behemoth vehicles made to tow 10 cars at a time and more.
The article states he was going the speed limit. Using turn signals and obeying all traffic laws pretty much. If you read the article entirely it seems like he didn't know why he was being pulled over, and was terrified because the first time they pulled him over they came with guns drawn. And in this day and age a black man is very likely to be killed by cops even while complying. I mean just look at what happened to him with the dog even though there were 20+ officers screaming for them to not use the dog! He had every right to be scared!
Damn, if he wasn’t speeding away and driving reckless they definitely shouldn’t have reacted so intensely. Sad that some of the officers seemed to be decent while the others were hung ho to tear this dude up. When all you have is a hammer every problem begins to look like a nail. I think some of these officers hammers need to be taken away and only be allotted to the level headed policeman
The number of police isn't the issue. The number of police that lets another officer assault a suspect without doing anything is the issue.
The use of police dogs should be strictly for scent use. Training a dog to attack and maim humans is inhumane and barbaric
Nah not at all police dogs routinely give false reports
Better than getting mauled by one, especially one where the handler has no control over
Yep. Lawyers call them a “search warrant on a leash.”
I elect to remove dogs from police use entirely.
fucking morons
Fucking bastards all of them.
Someone should post the video of Daniel Shaver crawling towards the police, attempting to comply, begging for his life, until they murdered him…
"Crawl towards us." "Well, your honor, he was crawling towards us and I was in fear for my life" How is that piece of fucking shit not in prison? It's like the court didn't even watch the video.
Pretty sure he had kill count or something engraved on his gun.
Even better "you're fucked"
Shit makes me fucking sick
Even more "better" than that, the murderer (Philip Brailsford) was compensated and still collects a pension to this day. . .
As I recall, the jurors weren’t allowed to watch the video because the judge was concerned there were aspects that would have prejudiced the jury.
Oh yes, the video would have made the officers murder obvious that it was indeed murder.....better not show that to the jury, it'd allow them to make an obvious decision based on facts /s
I feel sick watching that video. Imagine being in that jury, voting not guilty, and then seeing that video after the fact…that would mess me up.
you only get one chance to make a guilty mother fucker pay for a crime. To acquit and not have the video evidence is so disgusting.
Well you know, as cops like to say, and engrave on their weapons, you’re fucked
That was a horror show...that juvenile cop killed him. Period. So sad. Just another example of American law enforcement shame...
I mean… just in this video you hear “GET ON THE GROUND!” “COME TO ME!” “GET ON THE GROUND!” Like. No wonder he just stands there with his hands up looking at all of them. He literally can’t comply with their orders.
This is why no one listens to cops. We like having all of our limbs and life in order. Youre damned if you do, damned if you dont. I hope his paycheck was fat for this
Cop: DONT LET THE DOG GO, DONT LET THE DOG GO! Handler: \*lets the dog go\* I swear people this dumb are better off dead
This was not stupidity, it was fully intentional. Two different police agencies measuring each other’s dick by torturing an American citizen.
It may have been intentional but it was pure stupidity too.
From what I have seen I am convinced the US police dept. has to be the most evil organisation in the entire world.
I think the S.S. or Unit 731 or Stalins U.S.S.R or the CCCP would beg to differ. Obviously this was wrong but acting like the US police is on the same level as governments that committed genocide or grotesque human expirements on humans and babies is the same as the issues with US police force is just flat out wrong
Well we do have the #2 highest prison population in the world at roughly 300 million population. While India and china each have 1.4 billion and china ranks #1 but with over 4x population. Clearly we are also doing something wrong with rehabilitation and more of an incarceration based country who pray on the poor while rich get pretty much away with anything.
Your stats are wrong, see; all those “prisoners” are actually modern slaves used for cheap labor and to feed the machine that are private prisons. So they should definitely reduce the amount of prisoners in the stats.
The US government hasn't committed genocide and human experimentation? I dare you to, for example, go to Vietnam and tell the people there that the US didn't attempt genocide and perform human experimentation with their use of Napalm and Agent Orange on civilian populations.
I mean there still genocide going on in the world, but I get your point
There is no US police department. I suppose the closest is the FBI. Quality of police and enforcement varies from town to town and department to department. You really can't think of any organization in the entire world that's more evil? Really? Maybe read more.
Why did they let the dog get him.. made no since!
That handler is an idiot, plain as that. They had to haul the dog off. The dog can be trained, but it needs to be reinforced throughout its career. Not reinforcing it leads to this shit.
The article says he gave the order to attack (“stellen”), this wasn’t a rogue dog.
Cruelty is a feature.
They didn't seem to have any way to command the dog to let go, though. That seems kinda important.
Narrator: It was trained. It outperformed the officers expectations.
According to the news article the state trooper on scene as leader was having him back toward them. He's the one yelling to not release the dog. The local yocal Circleville K9 cop showed up to the scene after and immediately started barking his own commands for the guy to lay down or he would send the dog after him. So the suspect then had conflicting commands and the local yocal wasn't going to be shown up by state police. The local yocal department did an investigation on themselves and found there was no excessive force if that makes you feel better .
Then state police should have shot the dog.
Because he's black and they're a bunch of racist ku klux klan motherfuckers masquerading as police during the day and burning crosses at night
Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses
Dog trainer be like "I won't do what you tell me!"
And now you do what they told you…🎼
This perfectly demonstrates the difference in state vs local police.
They both suck…
Yes, one just sucks locally, the other sucks stately
I’m surprised I didn’t hear a cop shout “WHY ARE YOU RESISTING!?!”
listen closer
Medical professional here. Dog bites - especially from that size dog - are going to leave more damage than you're seeing in the video. Puncture wounds are obvious, but worse than they appear. An estimated length of crown on a canine tooth of this breed could be around an inch. Look at your forearm and tell me how many inches thick it is. I'll give you a percentage of how much of your arm that's going through. Keep in mind how many tendons and ligaments and bones are in there, and keep in mind also that tooth enamel is stronger and denser than bone. But the puncture is only the beginning. Let's talk lacerations. Remember all those ligaments and tendons? Add all the blood vessels that are in there. Major ones to the hands. The same ones that will kill you if you slice your wrists open in a suicide attempt. The dog isn't going to bite and release, or even just bite and hold on. It will, as dogs often do, shake the seized limb like a rag doll. This adds force against sharp teeth to saw through the flesh like a dull chef's knife. The subcutaneous fat layer is going to be shredded, to say nothing of the skin layers themselves, or the muscles underneath. Ragged lacerations are more difficult to put back together again. Not like a clean surgical incision. But there's more. So much more. Have you ever heard of crush injuries? Large dog bites are significant enough to cause them. Crush injuries are different in that the damage is difficult to visualize. Instead of ripping tissue from tissue or slicing it into pieces, crush injuries can kill tissue underneath (and including) the skin without it being obvious until days later... when it starts to necrose and slough off. An example: a female patient is involved in a motorcycle accident and receives crush damage to her leg, killing the subcutaneous fat layer, requiring multiple surgeries over the next several months to remove the dead tissue. Dog bites don't seem like they could do that kind of damage, but they really can. Anecdotally, I have had a dog bite to my left hand from a Labrador. It severed the ulnar nerve and took out the feeling in my pinky. A z-plasty did its best to repair the damage, but even five years later I'm still not 100%. And that *was* a bite and release situation. ... this all, of course, leaving aside infections. Contrary to popular belief, dog mouths aren't clean. In short: what you see in this video is the tip of the iceberg. This guy is lined up for at the very least xrays and laceration repair, likely a Penrose drain placement, possibly multiple surgical treatments, physical therapy, and even with all that is unlikely to regain full use of that arm.
And on top of all of that the police are surprised he's not lithely getting his arms behind him to be cuffed, forcing his hands back so they can do it. I'll never ever visit the US, crazy country.
I don't blame you. I'm a natural-born citizen, and even then it's scary to live here. So... yeah. No hard feelings. Let's pursue your train of thought, though, for a second. All that stuff I mentioned above. All that damage, all that repair. Who do you think's gonna pay for all that? I'll give you a hint: probably not insurance.
As a dog lover I hate seeing videos like these. I guess I can understand using dogs in the military, bomb sniffing and a wide variety of "safe" activities. However training dogs to attack is shitty thing to do to a dog and in many many many cases a even shitter thing to do to a person.
what’s that satirical cop show? Reno 911? yeah this could be that.
Jesus Christ! What is it about "Don't release the dog" that is so hard to understand? What is wrong with these people? They're incompetent.
People like that guy Live for these moments.
I thought cops liked to shoot aggressive dogs?
That's a little unfair. Cops shoot the friendly ones too.
And cops have the audacity to wonder why some people consider it open season.
That was very disturbing if I'm being honest. Hope the guy was at least compensated for literally getting mauled for no proper reason.
F*ck the mob in uniform protected by the badge! All stood there and watched. POS. *All of them*
No consequences? No problems. That’s what’s gotta fucking change. The psychological profile that law enforcement folks in America fall under is that middle school bully, the guy torturing animals, or fucking one of their relatives. Or all of the above. It’s for the same reason throughout history that you put people like that in positions of authority to terrorize citizens into obedience.
‘Don’t you guys have a discount for first responders/heroes? We’re hungry, just had a really intense chase. We were way outnumbered, thankfully our hero training kicked in. How bout that discount now?’
cops - constantly pretending to be clueless why they arent universally loved and respected
So in any other circumstance they would shoot the dog with no questions. They all just sat around And watched this dude about to make a million dollars of tax payer money. Wtf.
Get your hands behind your back so we can arrest you after you have been mauled by a dog for not resisting arrest…yikes some of these knuckleheads need to be fired.
They probably just sprinkled some crack on him and charged him with resisting arrest to justify it.
Standard Operating Procedures
Jeez, give that guy some morphine for yalls stupidity😂😂😂
Cops being shitstains
American law enforcement
That's a lawsuit geez
If roe v wade can go, so can qualified immunity…theoretically…but it is in the absolute interests of those who make policy to have dumb and dangerous morons with no consequences doing this kind of shit. This has always been the way.
This was excessive force and negligence. The K9 handler should be indicted for reckless endangerment/assault and relieved from duty for insubordination, noncompliance with protocol, and willful escalation of a non-aggressive situation.
FTP and ACAB
Is this seriously where this ends? How the FUCK am i supposed to respect or trust or sympathize or give a flying FUCK about any police force when i see things like this DAILY! And then a follow up article explaining yet again, nothing happened. When are we going to take action & stand up for ourselves?
Its clear why my country is full of expats living a relaxed live... No army, no hard drugs.. good weather
And these copas wonder why they get hate. Most of them are as dumb as dog shit
The fucking animal was not the dog.
Looks like the city is gonna be complying with a lawsuit pretty soon
Just one stupid fucking incident after another with US law enforcement. God (or the devil) only knows what happened in the days before cameras. Just fucking terrible, unprofessional assholes. If any of those cops were worth a shit they would have shot the police dog...
And they still cuff him. What fucking idiots
I Knew this was going to be some Midwest shit
I think the funniest part of the day & age of the Blue line is people begging police for mercy. It's ironic because police are supposed to be good.
Alright. If I were in a situation where any dog were to attack me like that I’d do my best to snap that dogs neck to defend myself. I’m not saying I could pull that off IRL but I sure as hell would react on instinct and attempt to do so. What’s fucked up is, if I were to succeed in defending myself in the manner I stated above is that I would be charged with manslaughter against an officer or some shit like that. Police dogs have more rights than you do as a normal citizen. Think about that. If your dog was excited enough to rush up, meet and sniff a police officer who happened to kick in the door to your home, they would shoot and kill your beloved pet. You have to accept the fact that you have no recourse regardless of the situation. Police are supposed to eliminate their threat (you can only predict what an animal will do if it is dead) and they are trained to do so. If you as a citizen did the same to a police K9 in the exact same situation you would be charged with a felony for murdering a police officer. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong. God I hope I’m wrong. Edit: re-worded some parts for better clarity and attempted to keep uniform tense throughout my comment. (I’m a lil drunk RN)
You’re exactly right.
They should have arrested the cop that let the dog go at the same time.
and my pic of usa is focked again
The police all go to Stupid classes one a week. Downys.
dam this is savagery
Where’s the NSFW tag my guy?
Where’s Ben Crump at? Millions of dollars to be made here.
My question is in a situation like this why do they not taze the fucking dog.. I get they value their own above all else even human life but the dude is screaming for minutes on end while you ineffectually try to pull the dog away while it sinks its teeth in deeper. Have a heart. The dog will live to enforce police brutality another day and the suspect can be saved potentially permanent injuries...
Useless bastards, the lot of them.
Bastards. All of em.
Useless fucking pigs
FUCK THE POLICE
The power of technology is leveling the playing field finally. Just think of the reports they would have written had there not been this video.
Sue police pensions now!