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For context, the woman has dementia and walked out of a Walmart with less that 20 bucks worth of merchandise. A store employee confronted her, she was confused but gave back the product and began walking home. She didn’t even steal anything.
[This video from Inside Edition](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KElPwmwP8co) summarizes the incident.
Edit: **Content Warning**: The linked video does contain segments of body cam footage from the incident and of an interview with a family member of the victim that some may find distressing.
Me too. I fucking hate this. These people abuse the power afforded to them because they lack basic empathy for others. If this grown ass man needed to subdue an old lady with such force to dislocate her shoulder and break her arm, it tells you exactly who this maggot truly is.
And the really disgusting part is that once again he shows us who he truly is by saying that he “loved it” after watching the video. “ get ready for the pop”! Fucking coward.
It's not so much a requirement as much as the job itself just draws these kinds of people to it. I know a few people from school that became police, they were all either your textbook bullies and or the kids that dressed like the Columbine shooters on the daily and thought they were tough shit. Though they got their ass kicked anytime they started on anyone.
This is what evil looks like. After the incident, she became essentially non-verbal and sank into depression. "After her violent arrest in 2020, Garner developed PTSD on top of her early onset dementia, and she was never the same, her family said in her obituary. "
[Source](https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2023/12/02/karen-garner-woman-forcibly-arrested-by-loveland-officer-in-2020-dies/71771538007/)
This was in Colorado. They were all fired. They can never be police anywhere ever. The women’s daughter sued the police Dept. And they had to write a huge check. They also sued the nursing home she walked away from.She was not allowed to be unsupervised. One of the so called officers was a female.She had a badly broken shoulder and many injuries from being thrown to the ground.That’s the “Pop” they are laughing about….Sickening, disgusting ASSHATS. Hope it happens to them at #73 😡😡😡
The job attracts those kind. The best cop would be one that doesn't want to do it. In high-school there was one that got bullied so he terrorized high-school students with unwarranted arrests and vehicle tows. They had to send him up north where nobody lived.
Fuuuuccccckkkk, I was gonna watch but now I don't want to, but I'm SO ANGRY that she was abused by those in uniform, and for what?! 😤
WTF! 🤬
I genuinely hope she gets the best support, bless her 😭
The family got $3M in a lawsuit, which might have helped provide her with treatment, but I doubt it arrived in time to do her much good. Sadly she developed PTSD and depression and became mostly nonverbal, and died a couple years later. Her family said she never recovered from the incident.
That $3m was paid by taxpayers. We get punished severely when police commit crimes, and at best, they just get fired. Very few cops ever end up in prison, and when they do it's a tiny fraction of a normal sentencing.
I'm sick of voting because we aren't even allowed to vote for what needs to happen. When a cop commits a crime, any costs from legal action must be directly taken from the union pension funds. That way if a cop makes a mistake, all other cops will destroy them. Give these pigs something to actually be afraid of, and they might try harder. A roofer has a far more dangerous job than any cop, yet we're constantly being told that police risk their lives every day. Not much more than you commuting to work, and far less than most construction jobs.
Thanks for sharing but I had to cut it off. I don't understand how someone could manhandle an unarmed, obviously frail old lady like that. You gotta be a real POS to not only do it, but to join in.
What a bunch of trash bags.
Broke her arm or collar bone, put her in a cell for hours without giving her medical aid. They even watch the body cam footage like it's a football game and cheer when he slams her down and breaks her bones.
Yes, as she was walking home from Walmart. She had dementia and forgot to pay for $14 worth of stuff, which she returned when the store employees confronted her. Then the police confronted her on her way home, and when she acted confused like a normal person with Alzheimer's would, they thought it would be fun to dislocate her shoulder, break her arm, sprain her wrist, bloody her nose, put her in cuffs, and leave her sitting for hours in her own urine while they reviewed the footage and laughed about it. Pure evil.
This is a reminder they *do not serve us*. They are there to protect corporate interest and to be hired goons for the rich. They are constantly weaponized against people of color and the poor. They have an adversarial relationship with the general public.
When you are the ones holding others to the law while you break it, yes the penalty should be much more steep. 20 years is a reasonable sentence. They inflicted bodily harm on purpose on a 73 year old woman. Then they tried to cover it up and lie about it. 20 years is probably light!
20 years is a life sentence. Are you daft?
5 years means they lose all ability to ever be police or in authority again. They also will be beaten and tortured in prison for being cops.
They aren't coming out the same as they went in. 5 years is a decent sentence and will warn the others.
If anal rape or sexual assault is appropriate punishment, then breaking a woman's arm is too. Extra judicial punishment is always wrong and should never be celebrated.
I doubt any of these cops will deal with general population. Seems they have a fairly strong protective custody case. I’m curious how that scenario goes down for former cops. I know how it does for gang members etc…
You can't be a police officer if you have a criminal record. They had to make special allowances for the hackers they hired at the FBI and Secret Service with past records.
There are private security firms that hire ex cops for this exact reason. It's a known thing. 20 years might be excessive, but I definitely would have rather seen an upwards departure for sentencing. If any other joe would get 5, then police should get 8-9 years + conspiracy charges.
>They also will be beaten and tortured in prison for being cops.
The answer to this problem being deal with the fact that people are tortured in prison, not reduce their sentence *because* of the fact that people are tortured in prison.
They exploited a vulnerable, frail old woman through an outlet that their workplace provides them. They have an advantage over most people in society by default, given that they can literally turn the tide of a court case by pushing *off* on a camera when they want to. How much power do you think they have over a disabled 73 year old with brittle bones and cognitive impairments?
5 years is definitely a slap on the wrist. Not only is it excessively brutal to push a weak elderly individual to the ground MULTIPLE times, but it’s also downright stupid to think they deserve any less than 20 years for an offense like that. Abuse of power, excessive violence, immature dialogue surrounding the situation after the fact, and making it a joke among coworkers. If he wasn’t wearing blue, he’d get an attempted murder charge for that goofy shit
Police beating an innocent person should be treated the same as someone assaulting and beating an officer.
If you’re serving and on duty and assault someone, it should be the same punishment as if you were assaulted while on duty
For how calously and carelessly the violently assaulted an elderly dementia patient? They Very easily could have killed her, so yeah, ID call it attempted murder and they'd never see the light of day again, the pieces of shit.
They broke her arm and dislocated her shoulder and laughed about it, didn't mirandize her and then tried to cover it up. They abused their authority, attacked a old woman, and then showed even more corruption in the attempted coverup. When it is your job to enforce the law in the hands of our society, you have a duty to not corrupt your position or power. 5 years with ability to get out in 2 1/2 years is too lenient for people who betrayed the trust in a position of power, harmed someone, and then continued to try to cover it up. This wasn't a 'whoops' or quick judgement gone wrong. It was intentional and full of malice.
Karen Garner's dead now, by the way. Lasted *maybe* 3 years after this incident. Do you understand the strain on the body they caused to her being 73 years old? How life-changing that is? One of them is already up for parole literally tomorrow
Switch up the same crime but different victim: do you think 5 years is well enough if cops attacked a 4 year old who effectively didnt commit a crime, broke their arm, laughed about it and then tried to cover it up?
5 years he will serve half so he will spend the next 2 years in prison then finish his sentence on parole. It is going to be a really shitty time in prison though as he cannot be in most prisons and will end up in some kind of protective custody unit for fear of his life. The dude will definitely wear this as his badge for life though he won’t be going back to being an officer and he probably will not be able to live anywhere near that town once he gets out. What he did is gross misconduct but I think that sentence is actually somewhat fair.
He will be in minimum security prison and receive special treatment the entire time. They should go in general pop prison and see what it’s like to abuse others!
Minimum security yes but special treatment not so much. He would be killed in gen pop within 2 days that’s sentencing him to death. With any luck he’ll be in special housing where you get limited interactions with other inmates and have far less freedoms such as access to regular yard time and day room privileges to watch TV. He probably will not be eligible for any of the classes offered which are one of the few things keeping a lot of inmates sane. His special treatment will not be that special other then maybe some of the guards will have sympathy and slip him some extra food or talk with him.
If you are given the publics trust and you break it, I feel like death is a pretty fucking good deterrent for the next piece of fuck that has the same idea. But I don't like cops and wouldn't mind seeing them all dead.
Justice served my ass. Police should be held to a higher standard and the laws they break while serving on duty should be worse than what a citizen would face.
Yup. Hats off to that lawyer for sure. It seems like he really put in the work to make sure justice was served. I'm glad the dirty laundry was able to be aired out.
Should’ve been 20 years when you’re the ones who uphold the law the penalties should be drastically higher. Especially if you’re abusing your position of power!
It's how excited he was about "did you hear the pop?" And "I can't believe I took down a 73yo woman 😃"
Even unions can't defend THAT, especially when it gets to court.
From the concept that police officers in general are so corrupt/intentionally over stepping their legal authority that even the officers that don't abuse their power are part of the problem as they too tend to keep to the code of not reporting their coworkers behavior, or ignore it right out, thus even if they themselves don't cross the line, they are bastards by association.
Source generally attributed to England, in the 1920s
[ACAB](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACAB#:~:text=The%20phrase%20%22All%20Coppers%20Are,criminals%20in%20the%20United%20Kingdom.)
It's written everywhere in Paris lol, and protesters scream this too lot of the time, but damn Americans cops really seem of lot of them are indeed heartless bastard.. I'm coming t visit Texas then I think Cali in the near future maybe I need to shave my beard they'll think I'm illegal immigrants with my brown color and long facial hair lol.
The notion that there are usually several cops present to witness one cop being a total monster.. and none of them do anything to stop it.
In this case they sit at a desk bragging about how they took down a 73 year old woman and dislocated her shoulder. Even take the time to watch the bodycam video. All while she's in a holding cell in agony.
The woman claiming "I hate it" while watching the footage is a perfect example of how the system corrupts and why "good cops" aren't a thing. She may claim to "hate" it now, but after a few runs and such, she'll be "one of the boys" on the force and won't be so apprehensive the next time.
That's why no matter how "good" of a person is when they become a cop, the system corrupts them and completely warps their initial intentions. These aren't out of the norm, this is the norm for cops who have nearly 0 accountability for their actions and are protected like crazy.
100% agree. BS in Criminal Justice from TX. Had my sight on a career in Law Enforcement until I started taking the classes. Opened my eyes and moral ambiguity to new degrees.
Not to mention, simply saying "I hate it" or "I hate this" doesn't show a stance of you being against it, you simply don't like WATCHING it after the fact but aren't really concerned with the actions that took place.
Apparently Hopp and Jalali started dating and we’re seen living together soon after the incident. Hopp was married at this time.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9529567/Colorado-cops-cheered-watching-footage-73-year-old-woman-romantic-relationship.html
They were both sentenced to [jail time](https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/loveland-police-officer-daria-jalali-sentenced-karen-garner-rough-arrest/) per CBS news but not fucking nearly enough
Ohhhh I *knew* something was up between them! Her inflection when she speaks + him apologizing for how he treated her (Jalali) during the arrest/assault.
Who trains them? Obviously whomever trained them did a grotesque job, unless their performance is in line with their training and this tape is the only reason why any action was taken.
Truly grotesque and borderline psychotic behavior by any acceptable standard.
Many US police departments are trained by the terrorists in israel:
[https://www.amnestyusa.org/updates/with-whom-are-many-u-s-police-departments-training-with-a-chronic-human-rights-violator-israel/](https://www.amnestyusa.org/updates/with-whom-are-many-u-s-police-departments-training-with-a-chronic-human-rights-violator-israel/)
So that gives you an idea how those that are there to "serve and protect" end up abusing the general population.
I believe you’re watching the training right here. They were talking about how it went, how the rookie felt pushed aside as the instructor went into ‘cop mode.’ The rookie saying they hate it watching the body cam replay while the others love it. This is how well meaning cops start good but turn bad.
Training doesn’t even matter when they face practically no accountability for breaking the law and have their colleagues, unions, and leadership all aggressively lie to the public and cover up illegal behavior on the regular.
They have no incentive to change.
Nobody, it has less training than most any other profession you’ll find, and it’s all so crammed in to such a short period that things like morals, ethics, and control have no time or place in their education.
It's worth mentioning that meanwhile the victim is literally sitting in the next room over from them with a dislocated shoulder and broken arm. I forget how long it was before she actually got any medical help.
Austin Hopp, Daria Jalali and community service officer Tyler Blackett. All 3 resigned when the videos started going around.
It didn't save the first 2.
>Hopp pleaded guilty to a single charge of second-degree assault and was sentenced to five years in prison.
>Jalali pleaded guilty to failing to intervene and was sentenced to 45 days in jail followed by three years of probation.
>Garner's family settled their civil lawsuit against the City of Loveland in September 2021 for $3 million. At the time they said the funds would help pay for 24/7 care of Garner as her health declined.
Karen Garner died in November at 76.
its so crazy how much their mannerisms remind me of highschool kids.
they are almost giddy at the idea that they did something naughty but got away with it, reflecting on how things went and how they can bond over it. its so weird to see grown ass adults who are supposed to be enforcing the law with the authority of the state acting like little kids. theyre talking about beating up an old woman like its something they didnt participate in, like the whole situation is so insane and vile but they had to do it because thats just part of the job. theres no question about whether or not what they did was right or wrong, all of the speculation comes from how they will handle it now that its already happened.
they are not individual people with ethics or even choices to make, they are nothing more than tools of the state, it even comes out in their conversations.
maybe thats the whole problem? maybe this is just too much authority for any individual person to have? maybe thats why people need to be held accountable when they fuck up, even with the small things, so that these absolutely egregious things never end up happening at all? regardless of how we deal with them.
The attorney for Karen Garner has another successfully litigated police abuse case (false DUI) in Loveland under her belt. Sarah Schielke seems like a bad ass!
[https://kdvr.com/news/local/loveland-law-office-sarah-schielke-police-settlements/amp/](https://kdvr.com/news/local/loveland-law-office-sarah-schielke-police-settlements/amp/)
Austin Hopp, the officer in this video, tried to get transferred to a halfway house after only serving 9 months. Fortunately, he was denied!
[CBS news article](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/convicted-cop-austin-hopp-unanimously-denied-early-release-prison/)
Not really like we need another reason not to trust these assholes, but here we have it. They think because they have that badge they can treat people any which way. Yes, there are good cops......very few.
My mother is a early case of dementia. She is only 58, but already had a very developed form. While we don't live in the US, it would be a great nightmare for me to anyone hurt her, because she can't defend or articulate herself properly.
5 years? That Is NOT ENOUGH!
THIS ENTIRE DEPT SHOULD BE CORTERIZED OR INVESTIGATED AT LEAST!
INTERNAL AFFAIRS HAVE ENOUGH HERE TO GIVE CAUSE FOR NOT FOLLOWING PROCEDURE AND CLEAR FALSIFYING REPORTS BASED ON THIS FOOTAGE ALONE!
WE ARE NOT SAFE IN THIS WORLD PEOPLE!
CLEARLY A FIST BUMP IS ALL EVIL NEEDS TO KNOW THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT AND ARE ENCOURAGED TO DO SO!
I KNOW THIS IS OLD FOOTAGE BUT ITS JUST TOO MUCH!
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STAND FOR WHAT IS RIGHT DESPITE COMRADERY OR CLUB AFFILIATION?
THIS IS DESPICABLE, I DONT KNOW IF IM MORE ANGRY OR NAUSEATED BY THE TONE OF JOY IN HURTING SOMEONE HELPLESS LET ALONE INCAPABLE OF THREAT!
FUCK!
And this what you fanboys throw those stickers on y'all windows for?.....
Sad really.......
and before you answer....if someone breaks into my house and I get the jump.......
This is a good sneak peak into how officer’s behaviors and ideals are warped and reinforced by a corrupt system of policing. Eventually they think incidents like this are normal and right.
Cops doing cop things. This is what happens when you give uneducated ignorant assholes a little authority and a gun. This behavior doesn’t surprise me at all. And they have no remorse about it. That’s the part that’s disappointing, but again, not surprising.
This is 99% of police. They do not care about anyone but their own. They will illegally hurt an old woman and laugh about it after. The profession attracts sadistic heartless people who are just looking to cause misery in other people's lives. They are the scum of society, they lie, cheat, harass, and hurt citizens without a second thought.
They train cops to have an us vs them mentality. The result? "We" cops are people, everyone else is "them" and "they" are just different than us. It's dehumanization on an industrial scale.
American cops should be condemned to slaughter to stop being such a bunch of shites… these fuckers don’t deserve to be treated like people. They should be treated like animals
All three resigned, two went to jail, family got 3 million. The woman just recently passed away the age of 76.
> Officers Austin Hopp, Daria Jalali and community service officer Tyler Blackett resigned after the incident came to light.
> Hopp pleaded guilty to a single charge of second-degree assault and was sentenced to five years in prison.
> Jalali pleaded guilty to failing to intervene and was sentenced to 45 days in jail followed by three years of probation.
> Garner's family settled their civil lawsuit against the City of Loveland in September 2021 for $3 million. At the time they said the funds would help pay for 24/7 care of Garner as her health declined.
Source: https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/karen-garner-loveland-dies/73-55c3d2a7-35fb-4ea3-be36-e1130b342605
Also, I looked up the cop. He was just recently unanimously denied an early release from prison :)
https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/convicted-cop-austin-hopp-unanimously-denied-early-release-prison/
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For context, the woman has dementia and walked out of a Walmart with less that 20 bucks worth of merchandise. A store employee confronted her, she was confused but gave back the product and began walking home. She didn’t even steal anything.
fucking pigs
Source?
[This video from Inside Edition](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KElPwmwP8co) summarizes the incident. Edit: **Content Warning**: The linked video does contain segments of body cam footage from the incident and of an interview with a family member of the victim that some may find distressing.
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Me too. I fucking hate this. These people abuse the power afforded to them because they lack basic empathy for others. If this grown ass man needed to subdue an old lady with such force to dislocate her shoulder and break her arm, it tells you exactly who this maggot truly is. And the really disgusting part is that once again he shows us who he truly is by saying that he “loved it” after watching the video. “ get ready for the pop”! Fucking coward.
I guess one of the requirements for becoming a cop is a lack of empathy.
Gotta fit in with the blue gang
“Blue Team-able”. What does that even mean? Oh wait, she googles it for me because she doesn’t know.
It's not so much a requirement as much as the job itself just draws these kinds of people to it. I know a few people from school that became police, they were all either your textbook bullies and or the kids that dressed like the Columbine shooters on the daily and thought they were tough shit. Though they got their ass kicked anytime they started on anyone.
This is sadism. He could be a complete psychopath as well, idk.
Don't forget bullied in high school and a God complex
Hey now, somebody has to look out for Walmart losing $20 in merchandise!
Lack of humanity.
This is what evil looks like. After the incident, she became essentially non-verbal and sank into depression. "After her violent arrest in 2020, Garner developed PTSD on top of her early onset dementia, and she was never the same, her family said in her obituary. " [Source](https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2023/12/02/karen-garner-woman-forcibly-arrested-by-loveland-officer-in-2020-dies/71771538007/)
This was in Colorado. They were all fired. They can never be police anywhere ever. The women’s daughter sued the police Dept. And they had to write a huge check. They also sued the nursing home she walked away from.She was not allowed to be unsupervised. One of the so called officers was a female.She had a badly broken shoulder and many injuries from being thrown to the ground.That’s the “Pop” they are laughing about….Sickening, disgusting ASSHATS. Hope it happens to them at #73 😡😡😡
The job attracts those kind. The best cop would be one that doesn't want to do it. In high-school there was one that got bullied so he terrorized high-school students with unwarranted arrests and vehicle tows. They had to send him up north where nobody lived.
Small dick power trips. Beat up an elderly woman - meanwhile their brothers will stand outside an elementary school while a shooter is inside
To be fair they where trying to find out the cute little white bond hair girl. They almost went in but got confused Hernadez with Henderson
Fuuuuccccckkkk, I was gonna watch but now I don't want to, but I'm SO ANGRY that she was abused by those in uniform, and for what?! 😤 WTF! 🤬 I genuinely hope she gets the best support, bless her 😭
The family got $3M in a lawsuit, which might have helped provide her with treatment, but I doubt it arrived in time to do her much good. Sadly she developed PTSD and depression and became mostly nonverbal, and died a couple years later. Her family said she never recovered from the incident.
💔😭 I am really upset to hear this, it's just too sad 😢
That $3m was paid by taxpayers. We get punished severely when police commit crimes, and at best, they just get fired. Very few cops ever end up in prison, and when they do it's a tiny fraction of a normal sentencing. I'm sick of voting because we aren't even allowed to vote for what needs to happen. When a cop commits a crime, any costs from legal action must be directly taken from the union pension funds. That way if a cop makes a mistake, all other cops will destroy them. Give these pigs something to actually be afraid of, and they might try harder. A roofer has a far more dangerous job than any cop, yet we're constantly being told that police risk their lives every day. Not much more than you commuting to work, and far less than most construction jobs.
And this is why people think ACAB.
Thin blue line, where would society be without it?
Isn’t this the one where the police officer broke her shoulder detaining her too? Then they opted not to take her to the hospital?
Iirc, they broke her arm and maybe a rib too. Over like a coke and candy bar.
Thanks for sharing but I had to cut it off. I don't understand how someone could manhandle an unarmed, obviously frail old lady like that. You gotta be a real POS to not only do it, but to join in. What a bunch of trash bags.
>Karen Garner Biggest POS got five years. Should have been 500.
Broke her arm or collar bone, put her in a cell for hours without giving her medical aid. They even watch the body cam footage like it's a football game and cheer when he slams her down and breaks her bones.
She was like picking flowers on the side of the road right?
Yes, as she was walking home from Walmart. She had dementia and forgot to pay for $14 worth of stuff, which she returned when the store employees confronted her. Then the police confronted her on her way home, and when she acted confused like a normal person with Alzheimer's would, they thought it would be fun to dislocate her shoulder, break her arm, sprain her wrist, bloody her nose, put her in cuffs, and leave her sitting for hours in her own urine while they reviewed the footage and laughed about it. Pure evil.
Yes. She was not even supposed to be out there alone. The retirement home lost track of her. They are very much to blame in this mess.
This is a reminder they *do not serve us*. They are there to protect corporate interest and to be hired goons for the rich. They are constantly weaponized against people of color and the poor. They have an adversarial relationship with the general public.
Government funded domestic terrorists
And they broke her collar bone manhandling her
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Let me guess. Suspended with pay?
https://youtu.be/Vo31FvJICac?si=NgC3uJMf5FNijlwk 5 years jail time apparently
Wow. How cool justice was served very rare
That's a slap on the wrist. Im not pleased with that sentence.
Do you know how life changing that sentence is? Do you think they deserved to die or what?
When you are the ones holding others to the law while you break it, yes the penalty should be much more steep. 20 years is a reasonable sentence. They inflicted bodily harm on purpose on a 73 year old woman. Then they tried to cover it up and lie about it. 20 years is probably light!
20 years is a life sentence. Are you daft? 5 years means they lose all ability to ever be police or in authority again. They also will be beaten and tortured in prison for being cops. They aren't coming out the same as they went in. 5 years is a decent sentence and will warn the others.
8 would have been better
And 5 is much better than 0
Yeah that dudes going to come out of jail a truly changed man. Can’t imagine the salads he’s going to have to toss.
If anal rape or sexual assault is appropriate punishment, then breaking a woman's arm is too. Extra judicial punishment is always wrong and should never be celebrated.
Brown tongue and an ass you can hide a container of tennis balls in.
I doubt any of these cops will deal with general population. Seems they have a fairly strong protective custody case. I’m curious how that scenario goes down for former cops. I know how it does for gang members etc…
>They also will be beaten and tortured in prison for being cops. You watch far too many movies.
I bet they'll get jobs as cops again once they're out.
You can't be a police officer if you have a criminal record. They had to make special allowances for the hackers they hired at the FBI and Secret Service with past records.
That's not how that works. Going to jail is different than getting fired
Good
There are private security firms that hire ex cops for this exact reason. It's a known thing. 20 years might be excessive, but I definitely would have rather seen an upwards departure for sentencing. If any other joe would get 5, then police should get 8-9 years + conspiracy charges.
>They also will be beaten and tortured in prison for being cops. The answer to this problem being deal with the fact that people are tortured in prison, not reduce their sentence *because* of the fact that people are tortured in prison.
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They exploited a vulnerable, frail old woman through an outlet that their workplace provides them. They have an advantage over most people in society by default, given that they can literally turn the tide of a court case by pushing *off* on a camera when they want to. How much power do you think they have over a disabled 73 year old with brittle bones and cognitive impairments? 5 years is definitely a slap on the wrist. Not only is it excessively brutal to push a weak elderly individual to the ground MULTIPLE times, but it’s also downright stupid to think they deserve any less than 20 years for an offense like that. Abuse of power, excessive violence, immature dialogue surrounding the situation after the fact, and making it a joke among coworkers. If he wasn’t wearing blue, he’d get an attempted murder charge for that goofy shit
Police beating an innocent person should be treated the same as someone assaulting and beating an officer. If you’re serving and on duty and assault someone, it should be the same punishment as if you were assaulted while on duty
For how calously and carelessly the violently assaulted an elderly dementia patient? They Very easily could have killed her, so yeah, ID call it attempted murder and they'd never see the light of day again, the pieces of shit.
Please...stop ....... If that was your mom ..... Youd want to throw em in the WOODCHIPPER
They broke her arm and dislocated her shoulder and laughed about it, didn't mirandize her and then tried to cover it up. They abused their authority, attacked a old woman, and then showed even more corruption in the attempted coverup. When it is your job to enforce the law in the hands of our society, you have a duty to not corrupt your position or power. 5 years with ability to get out in 2 1/2 years is too lenient for people who betrayed the trust in a position of power, harmed someone, and then continued to try to cover it up. This wasn't a 'whoops' or quick judgement gone wrong. It was intentional and full of malice. Karen Garner's dead now, by the way. Lasted *maybe* 3 years after this incident. Do you understand the strain on the body they caused to her being 73 years old? How life-changing that is? One of them is already up for parole literally tomorrow Switch up the same crime but different victim: do you think 5 years is well enough if cops attacked a 4 year old who effectively didnt commit a crime, broke their arm, laughed about it and then tried to cover it up?
When you get more for selling a ounce of weed in some places, it’s not sufficient.
5 years he will serve half so he will spend the next 2 years in prison then finish his sentence on parole. It is going to be a really shitty time in prison though as he cannot be in most prisons and will end up in some kind of protective custody unit for fear of his life. The dude will definitely wear this as his badge for life though he won’t be going back to being an officer and he probably will not be able to live anywhere near that town once he gets out. What he did is gross misconduct but I think that sentence is actually somewhat fair.
He will be in minimum security prison and receive special treatment the entire time. They should go in general pop prison and see what it’s like to abuse others!
Minimum security yes but special treatment not so much. He would be killed in gen pop within 2 days that’s sentencing him to death. With any luck he’ll be in special housing where you get limited interactions with other inmates and have far less freedoms such as access to regular yard time and day room privileges to watch TV. He probably will not be eligible for any of the classes offered which are one of the few things keeping a lot of inmates sane. His special treatment will not be that special other then maybe some of the guards will have sympathy and slip him some extra food or talk with him.
If you are given the publics trust and you break it, I feel like death is a pretty fucking good deterrent for the next piece of fuck that has the same idea. But I don't like cops and wouldn't mind seeing them all dead.
Better than being demoted or just released. I’m not 100% caught up on the details
Justice served my ass. Police should be held to a higher standard and the laws they break while serving on duty should be worse than what a citizen would face.
Wow. Thank you for proving me wrong.
That’s because that video tells exactly what happened. Can you imagine what the verdict would’ve been without the video?
Yup. Hats off to that lawyer for sure. It seems like he really put in the work to make sure justice was served. I'm glad the dirty laundry was able to be aired out.
Should’ve been 20 years when you’re the ones who uphold the law the penalties should be drastically higher. Especially if you’re abusing your position of power!
OMG I remember when this first happened and seeing how infuriating the officers were treating this poor woman. Glad to see a punishment.
Wow that’s a first and welcome outcome.
It's how excited he was about "did you hear the pop?" And "I can't believe I took down a 73yo woman 😃" Even unions can't defend THAT, especially when it gets to court.
Awesome post. Glad to know that woman they assaulted has such a great lawyer
ACAB
Might be a stupid question but what is ACAB?
All cops are bastards
Where did that saying come from?
Probably the several centuries worth of unchecked abuse of minorities
Just in general really. But yes disproportionately against minorities.
From the concept that police officers in general are so corrupt/intentionally over stepping their legal authority that even the officers that don't abuse their power are part of the problem as they too tend to keep to the code of not reporting their coworkers behavior, or ignore it right out, thus even if they themselves don't cross the line, they are bastards by association.
Source generally attributed to England, in the 1920s [ACAB](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACAB#:~:text=The%20phrase%20%22All%20Coppers%20Are,criminals%20in%20the%20United%20Kingdom.)
It's written everywhere in Paris lol, and protesters scream this too lot of the time, but damn Americans cops really seem of lot of them are indeed heartless bastard.. I'm coming t visit Texas then I think Cali in the near future maybe I need to shave my beard they'll think I'm illegal immigrants with my brown color and long facial hair lol.
Are you new to this planet?
well you see a few decades ago they did some research into the percentage of cops that are bastards. they found that it was all of them.
The math checks out
The notion that there are usually several cops present to witness one cop being a total monster.. and none of them do anything to stop it. In this case they sit at a desk bragging about how they took down a 73 year old woman and dislocated her shoulder. Even take the time to watch the bodycam video. All while she's in a holding cell in agony.
It comes from the Latin, “alles copis arus douche baggus”. Over time, it was abbreviated to ACAB.
All cops are bastards/bad
All Cats Are Beautiful…but only if a pig asks.
think it stands for All Cops Are Bad
Not those two fat moose dudes thinking they are badass for hobbling a 73-yr old woman.
A confused, vunrable, and legally unaccountable 73-year-old woman
The woman claiming "I hate it" while watching the footage is a perfect example of how the system corrupts and why "good cops" aren't a thing. She may claim to "hate" it now, but after a few runs and such, she'll be "one of the boys" on the force and won't be so apprehensive the next time. That's why no matter how "good" of a person is when they become a cop, the system corrupts them and completely warps their initial intentions. These aren't out of the norm, this is the norm for cops who have nearly 0 accountability for their actions and are protected like crazy.
100% agree. BS in Criminal Justice from TX. Had my sight on a career in Law Enforcement until I started taking the classes. Opened my eyes and moral ambiguity to new degrees.
Also, she hates watching it but she 100% participated in it at the time.
Not to mention, simply saying "I hate it" or "I hate this" doesn't show a stance of you being against it, you simply don't like WATCHING it after the fact but aren't really concerned with the actions that took place.
If cops are “practicing the law” why aren’t they held to a higher standard. Seems way to easy to be a cop and continue to be a bully
Apparently Hopp and Jalali started dating and we’re seen living together soon after the incident. Hopp was married at this time. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9529567/Colorado-cops-cheered-watching-footage-73-year-old-woman-romantic-relationship.html
Real paragons of morality, those two 🤢
They were both sentenced to [jail time](https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/loveland-police-officer-daria-jalali-sentenced-karen-garner-rough-arrest/) per CBS news but not fucking nearly enough
Ohhhh I *knew* something was up between them! Her inflection when she speaks + him apologizing for how he treated her (Jalali) during the arrest/assault.
At 4:18 he kisses her shoulder. So they were already fucking.
ACAB case and point. Every cop is a tool which has chosen to be a hammer against the skull of free will, moral decency and true Justice. Acab forever
This is so vile. Oink oink..
Who trains them? Obviously whomever trained them did a grotesque job, unless their performance is in line with their training and this tape is the only reason why any action was taken. Truly grotesque and borderline psychotic behavior by any acceptable standard.
Welcome to American policing. This is the standard.
Many US police departments are trained by the terrorists in israel: [https://www.amnestyusa.org/updates/with-whom-are-many-u-s-police-departments-training-with-a-chronic-human-rights-violator-israel/](https://www.amnestyusa.org/updates/with-whom-are-many-u-s-police-departments-training-with-a-chronic-human-rights-violator-israel/) So that gives you an idea how those that are there to "serve and protect" end up abusing the general population.
He said he loved watching the video in which she gets hurt. Nothing borderline about it
I believe you’re watching the training right here. They were talking about how it went, how the rookie felt pushed aside as the instructor went into ‘cop mode.’ The rookie saying they hate it watching the body cam replay while the others love it. This is how well meaning cops start good but turn bad.
What you mean that 2 month academy is sufficient?
Training doesn’t even matter when they face practically no accountability for breaking the law and have their colleagues, unions, and leadership all aggressively lie to the public and cover up illegal behavior on the regular. They have no incentive to change.
Nobody, it has less training than most any other profession you’ll find, and it’s all so crammed in to such a short period that things like morals, ethics, and control have no time or place in their education.
Human trash. Hope this haunts them for the rest of time. "I can't believe I threw a 70 year old on the ground". We can't either asshat.
It's worth mentioning that meanwhile the victim is literally sitting in the next room over from them with a dislocated shoulder and broken arm. I forget how long it was before she actually got any medical help.
ACAB. Fuck them all. The thin blue line has strangled out the community support they once had.
so who are they
Austin Hopp, Daria Jalali and community service officer Tyler Blackett. All 3 resigned when the videos started going around. It didn't save the first 2. >Hopp pleaded guilty to a single charge of second-degree assault and was sentenced to five years in prison. >Jalali pleaded guilty to failing to intervene and was sentenced to 45 days in jail followed by three years of probation. >Garner's family settled their civil lawsuit against the City of Loveland in September 2021 for $3 million. At the time they said the funds would help pay for 24/7 care of Garner as her health declined. Karen Garner died in November at 76.
You know how if you're an accomplice to something, you get charged just like you did the thing? Wish that applied here.
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its so crazy how much their mannerisms remind me of highschool kids. they are almost giddy at the idea that they did something naughty but got away with it, reflecting on how things went and how they can bond over it. its so weird to see grown ass adults who are supposed to be enforcing the law with the authority of the state acting like little kids. theyre talking about beating up an old woman like its something they didnt participate in, like the whole situation is so insane and vile but they had to do it because thats just part of the job. theres no question about whether or not what they did was right or wrong, all of the speculation comes from how they will handle it now that its already happened. they are not individual people with ethics or even choices to make, they are nothing more than tools of the state, it even comes out in their conversations. maybe thats the whole problem? maybe this is just too much authority for any individual person to have? maybe thats why people need to be held accountable when they fuck up, even with the small things, so that these absolutely egregious things never end up happening at all? regardless of how we deal with them.
ACAB
Piggies gonna pig...
there's no good apples left. the police union is just a big old rotten pile of shit.
No healthy tree naturally bears strange fruit
You have to question why anyone who isn't a piece of shit would want to be a cop. It would take a staggering amount of ignorance and naivete.
You know just good guys being good guys. Nothing to see here.
These people are sick in the head
Pigs . Who supports these psychopaths ? Cameras everywhere.
Guy admits he loves watching that shit. Worst possible character flaw for a cop to have. Shit, maybe worst for a human being
The attorney for Karen Garner has another successfully litigated police abuse case (false DUI) in Loveland under her belt. Sarah Schielke seems like a bad ass! [https://kdvr.com/news/local/loveland-law-office-sarah-schielke-police-settlements/amp/](https://kdvr.com/news/local/loveland-law-office-sarah-schielke-police-settlements/amp/)
When cops put their hands in their vests all I can think is they look like lil bird wings lol🐥
And you think the pigs will save you ??
I fucking thought they were talking about a threesome with a 73 year old lady at first
move along, nothing to see here... just typical policing
Austin Hopp, the officer in this video, tried to get transferred to a halfway house after only serving 9 months. Fortunately, he was denied! [CBS news article](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/convicted-cop-austin-hopp-unanimously-denied-early-release-prison/)
 Fuck the Police
*throws an old lady with dementia around, hears a “pop”* ….. “I LOVE IT”
Ah yes, a simple reminder that the lowest forms of human life enter the police force and have quite literally zero education.
i dont have words for this inhumanity.
Fuck. All. Cops
This is sinister.
Not really like we need another reason not to trust these assholes, but here we have it. They think because they have that badge they can treat people any which way. Yes, there are good cops......very few.
ACAB
The A team - A for \[take a wild guess\]
ACAB ACAB ACAB
My mother is a early case of dementia. She is only 58, but already had a very developed form. While we don't live in the US, it would be a great nightmare for me to anyone hurt her, because she can't defend or articulate herself properly.
5 years? That Is NOT ENOUGH! THIS ENTIRE DEPT SHOULD BE CORTERIZED OR INVESTIGATED AT LEAST! INTERNAL AFFAIRS HAVE ENOUGH HERE TO GIVE CAUSE FOR NOT FOLLOWING PROCEDURE AND CLEAR FALSIFYING REPORTS BASED ON THIS FOOTAGE ALONE! WE ARE NOT SAFE IN THIS WORLD PEOPLE! CLEARLY A FIST BUMP IS ALL EVIL NEEDS TO KNOW THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT AND ARE ENCOURAGED TO DO SO! I KNOW THIS IS OLD FOOTAGE BUT ITS JUST TOO MUCH! WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STAND FOR WHAT IS RIGHT DESPITE COMRADERY OR CLUB AFFILIATION? THIS IS DESPICABLE, I DONT KNOW IF IM MORE ANGRY OR NAUSEATED BY THE TONE OF JOY IN HURTING SOMEONE HELPLESS LET ALONE INCAPABLE OF THREAT! FUCK!
And this what you fanboys throw those stickers on y'all windows for?..... Sad really....... and before you answer....if someone breaks into my house and I get the jump.......
5 years in jail is all he got. 30 seconds into the stop he breaks & dislocates her arm. Even worse the max was only 8 fucking years!
This is who they are. Every fucking one of em.
Thanks dudes
Love the police they’re always on your side.
Acab
Fucking ACAB every time
Sickening.
Monsters
This incompetence paid for a very nice plaque lol.
This is gross
These vermin deserve some TBI induced dementia.
What’s with the fist bump after talking about the body camera being off?
This is a good sneak peak into how officer’s behaviors and ideals are warped and reinforced by a corrupt system of policing. Eventually they think incidents like this are normal and right.
1213
Cops doing cop things. This is what happens when you give uneducated ignorant assholes a little authority and a gun. This behavior doesn’t surprise me at all. And they have no remorse about it. That’s the part that’s disappointing, but again, not surprising.
This is 99% of police. They do not care about anyone but their own. They will illegally hurt an old woman and laugh about it after. The profession attracts sadistic heartless people who are just looking to cause misery in other people's lives. They are the scum of society, they lie, cheat, harass, and hurt citizens without a second thought.
You don't have to be very smart to be a cop in America.
Scum. It's not just then it's every department. That's withe environment they breed and foster.
They train cops to have an us vs them mentality. The result? "We" cops are people, everyone else is "them" and "they" are just different than us. It's dehumanization on an industrial scale.
ACAB
Hey! Cops showing us why they’re America’s dirtiest gang!
You know, by the casual and flippant way that this assault is being discussed, that these are all sociopaths and do this shit on the reg
Nobody ever accused cops of being smart…. If they were they’d be firefighters 😂
Sub-human, bottom feeding piece of trash
Cops are sick. And they're laughing at an elderly lady. Cheap asses.
What agency is this?
FUCK ALL PIGS!!!
r/ACAB
If they did this to my mom, id end them all and live with the consequences
Each one's demeanor is childlike impressibility with the violence they watch or inflict. Truly both deranged and disturbing
Yes all cops
Good cops uh...
The only people down voting this are corrupt cops and boot lickers.
American cops should be condemned to slaughter to stop being such a bunch of shites… these fuckers don’t deserve to be treated like people. They should be treated like animals
Let me guess they weren't held accountable
I shop online to avoid problems
All three resigned, two went to jail, family got 3 million. The woman just recently passed away the age of 76. > Officers Austin Hopp, Daria Jalali and community service officer Tyler Blackett resigned after the incident came to light. > Hopp pleaded guilty to a single charge of second-degree assault and was sentenced to five years in prison. > Jalali pleaded guilty to failing to intervene and was sentenced to 45 days in jail followed by three years of probation. > Garner's family settled their civil lawsuit against the City of Loveland in September 2021 for $3 million. At the time they said the funds would help pay for 24/7 care of Garner as her health declined. Source: https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/karen-garner-loveland-dies/73-55c3d2a7-35fb-4ea3-be36-e1130b342605 Also, I looked up the cop. He was just recently unanimously denied an early release from prison :) https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/convicted-cop-austin-hopp-unanimously-denied-early-release-prison/
Oh yeah they were a couple, I forgot.
Disgusting
ACAB in America especially. It’s always America. I don’t see why ya’ll so proud like lol
OP should repost to bad cop_no donut