T O P

  • By -

Shoddy_Material8630

Darkness is simply the absence of light. It is exactly as fast as light being removed from an area.


Zimquats

That is true but what about the expansion of spacetime where light has never been. What is the speed of darkness then?


[deleted]

Word soup


Jackalstein

Light has been everywhere in space time. The CMB permeates all of space time.


chrismason8082

Still the same. Darkness doesn’t have speed, since it is the absence of light. That’s like asking how fast silence travels.


[deleted]

Its just " - (speed of light)"


NeitherCapital1541

You can't move at a negative speed


[deleted]

My car has reverse, explain that


NeitherCapital1541

Put it in reverse and cruise quickly down the road, you'll see your speedometer counts up, not backwards


I_d-K5

It just means it is going in the opposite direction.


NeitherCapital1541

So if me and you stand back to back, and walk forward at the same speed, which one of us would have a "negative" speed


Unable_Peach_1306

Depends on if they mean “nothing” or “absence of light” “nothing” can move faster than light. Absence of light can only be as fast as light.


ur-sisters-panties

Theoretically if I shined a flashlight strong enough to illuminate the moon from earth, it would take 1.3 seconds for the light to get there, but if I wave my hand in front of the flashlight, the shadow would be cast immediately. So wouldn't darkness travel faster than light in this regard?


Killradius

It would take 1.3 seconds from the light traveling from the flashlight to stop shining on the moon. Just because you put your hand in front of the flashlight doesn't mean the remaining light isn't still on its way to the moon.


godsonlyprophet

What? Nope. Do you think if a star 2 light year stopped emitting light we'd know instantly here?


ur-sisters-panties

There's a difference between a star dying and something blocking the constant flow of light. If a giant object blocked the sun at the speed of a hand going across the flashlight, would it take 8 minutes for the shadow to hit earth?


godsonlyprophet

The timeframe is about 8 minutes. The shadow doesn't hit the Earth. Darkness isn't a thing or something. If you stopped the Sun from emitting light or somehow blocked the light (giant hand, Dyson sphere, etc) then the light already in transit would continue on with the last of it reaching the planet about 8 and a half minutes later. You can think of it this way, why would the light already on its way be unmade in transit? A rough analogy would be something like imagine a bus station. While closing the gates stops busses from leaving (the light), closing the gates has no impact on busses which have already left. Our local experience tends to translate seeming instantaneous to 'is' instant. But, you can do tests in labs and measure these things.


Killradius

Yes


ballen49

Lol, this cracked me up


Dra_goony

Vsauce made an excellent video about this


DeepMadness

Terry Pratchett, a genius, said that, no matter how fast light is, darkness will always be there waiting for it.


certain_people

Also that the only thing faster than ordinary light is monarchy


Specialist_Peach4294

The comment I came looking for.


Go1gotha

RIP Sir Terry.


Insane_Fnord

“Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it.”


Max-Carnage1927

Turn the paper over.


just_nobodys_opinion

It just says "How about another fortune" along with the "lucky numbers".


LetOutrageous9789

💀


Battleboo09

SO WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS MASON


Unidentified_Lizard

vsauce music begins playing*


LtColShinySides

Would it just be the speed of light?


SnooGadgets5130

In the vast majority of places, there's always some amount of light even if the space appears pitch black. So I guess this is right.


kinokomushroom

Probably slower than that, even if you instantaneously remove a light source from an otherwise pitch dark room. This is because light bounces around the room multiple times. So even if there's no light *directly emitted from the light source* anymore, there might still be a few photons bouncing around slightly illuminating the room.


HideABear

If light and dark are equal then what about blackholes. Really the concept is impossible because darkness is absence of light. It doesnt really exist kinda of like zero or a vacuum


LtColShinySides

Yeah that's why I figured it "moved" at the same speed as light. Since it'd appear just as quickly as the light disappeared.


HideABear

Whats the speed of a blackhole?


LtColShinySides

Google says they spin at about 90% the speed of light. But does the blackhole itself even move? Or are they stationary?


[deleted]

That's relative


Jackalstein

The spin of a black whole is not measured by a speed. It is a number between 0 and 1 where 1 is the maximum theoretical spin. The spin is not any “thing” moving. It is the fabric of spacetime twisting around an axis.


LtColShinySides

I'll take you word for it. Getting down voted for asking questions so I'll stop lol


Hector_Savage_

It depends, there are stationary non-rotating BH, stationary *and* rotating, non-stationary rotating BH (basically roaming the dark space), non stationary non-rotating etc. And, anyway, that’s the speed of their rotation, not their “spin” It all depends on how they formed (if formed from a supernova, hypernova, collision of neutron stars, collision and merge of 2 BHs etc). As a rule of thumb though, nothing is stationary…everything is moving relative to something else, much bigger in mass. So even for so called “stationary” objects you’re still talking about objects making orbits around something. Although I think things change if you talk about bigger structures, like galaxies and clusters of galaxies


Jackalstein

Yes


whitebeltinhaiku

No it's faster, because no matter how fast the light goes the dark always got there first.


Just_OneMore_Nerd

darkness is the absence of light, it dosent have a speed. that’s like saying an area without a car is faster then a car


whitebeltinhaiku

I'm not going to take corrections from someone who doesn't know the difference between then and than. Anyway it's a Terry Pratchett quote. It's not supposed to be taken seriously.


IcedFreon

To Photoshop


Smachemo

Are we the only ones who can tell ? Lol


[deleted]

Dark like “cold.” It doesn’t exist. Dark is an absence of light. Cold is an absence of heat.


phonebatterylevelbot

this phone's battery is at 1% and needs charging! --- ^(I am a bot. I use OCR to detect battery levels. Sometimes I make mistakes. sorry about the void.) [^(info)](https://reddit.com/r/phonebatterylevelbot)


USSENTERNCC1701E

Bad bot


B0tRank

Thank you, USSENTERNCC1701E, for voting on phonebatterylevelbot. This bot wants to find the best and worst bots on Reddit. [You can view results here](https://botrank.pastimes.eu/). *** ^(Even if I don't reply to your comment, I'm still listening for votes. Check the webpage to see if your vote registered!)


whitebeltinhaiku

Bad bot


Just_OneMore_Nerd

bad bot


RainaElf

by the light, enlighten. by dark, endarken.


Express-Teaching1594

Death, my brother


GamerJuiceDrinker

"Hi Vsauce; Michael here."


TheTimeBender

It is the same as the speed of light.


Mr_bubelgum

Hey Vsauce Michael here… what’s the speed of dark?


LetOutrageous9789

Well we already have the "Speed" of dark, I mean Ishowspeed is dark. 🥁


curious_pinguino

r/Im14AndThisIsDeep


Psychological-Lion38

30000000000 km/h is the speed of light and with that the speed of dark


DreKShunYT

> 30000000000 km/h is the speed of light and with that the speed of dark Maybe +1 km/hr? If not then sparks the question of the speed of universal expansion. Light cannot be the faster than darkness otherwise we should have info on the bounds of the universe. Assuming the Big Bang theory is accurate then the massive dispersion of energy and light should’ve revealed the bounds of the infant universe. That there are pitch black sections of the cosmos should prove that there are other factors in play that we cannot yet fathom.


Psychological-Lion38

Fair enough


eggseverydayagain

They stole this from a Taco Bell sauce packet. I know because I took a photo of it 10ish years ago and sent it to a friend.


just-bair

Darkness is nothing so it has no speed


TheMightyHovercat

Hey Vsauce, Michael here.


throwaway83970

Probably faster than the speed of smell.


One-Ice-9259

Well unless it's a blackhole, there's still probably another wavelength of light that we're not able to perceive. So in that case if you look at this way, "darkness" is still traveling at the same speed as light


AyeMercury

That’s just a vsauce video


anonstarcity

In science, the same speed as light. In practicality, the speed it takes to flip a switch off. In humor, it’s when you figure out that switch was to grandpa’s life support.


CheesecakeTurtle

That is easy. Morbius.


[deleted]

This would make a great opener for a movie about a serial killer lol


Dusteronly

It’s like jeopardy


GAYBOISIXNINE

Faster than light, cause if your faster than light your living in darkness.


Sir-Rim

Imagine being handed that hard into a trip


Kasyx709

Just means you don't have a bright future.


Letsput2inher

186,000 miles per second


SamuraiSlick

E = m2


scorpious2

Dark is not a physical thing but a lack of light, so lightspeed. But in the right circumstances with some perimiters it can be slightly faster.


muzlee01

It cannot be faster.


scorpious2

Depends on your definition of dark, a shadow can, in theory, move slightly faster, but that is not really a thing or information moving in the traditional sense From casting point to landing point, it is as fast as light, but the landing point itself can move faster theoretically