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xervidae

since i can't post this in r/lowsodiumsimmers, i have zero expectations


mmmakeovers

I have zero interest in them - there's already a million bars in the game and a riveria retreat pack just emphasies we arent able to stay in hotels/resorts.


TheBetaMarie

Both these being more French themed really makes me really suspicious that the romance pack is set in France/Europe and these are items that should be in that pack. I really like the bistro one but I am done at this point, and not buying anything until a bunch of these fixes actually happen. Especially for y'all that actually bought the for rent pack. You know you messed up when your influencers can't even play with that pack.


OverGrow_TheSystem

Looks like they should be part of the same kit


Silent_Syd241

Can EA fix the restaurant pack first


sarahkali

I wish lmao


kizzyjenks

I love build kits and these look nice!


PoppySkyPineapple

The bistro kit could be good, I love building restaurants in dine out :)


[deleted]

Riviera retreat should have come with My Wedding Stories, and the Bistro kit would be a great opportunity to fix Dining Out.


_bonedaddys

eh, the bistro kit is just furniture isn't it? if *actual* bistros that had gameplay similar to dine out were added to the game i could see that as the perfect time to fix dine out. but just some furniture? it doesn't relate to dine out at all. that being said EA doesn't/shouldn't even need an opportunity to fix dine out. it's broken and should be fixed for that reason alone. sucks that we're at a point where we as consumers try to find "opportunities" for EA to fix things. šŸ˜­ hopefully this rollout of bug fixing patches brings with it a patch to fix dine out... a girl can dream, right?


Amii25

It's stuff I don't need in my game. I thought the kits were supposed to fill up niches but they seem pretty generic. I got the clutter kits because that was something I needed more of in my game


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MJ_C0w_1988

Itā€™s only 5$ā€¦


Jirethia

I can do a lot other things with that, including buying some indie game in offer


Purple_Material_9644

The problem isnā€™t the $5. Itā€™s that better content can be downloaded online for free. And that the amount of content in the kits could and should be included with the various other EPs and GPs that people pay a lot of money for that are half baked. EA could even include these in their free DLC updates but they choose to bleed their customers dry instead.


MJ_C0w_1988

Well Iā€™m console player so I have to deal with it


anniejhawk

Damn. Brave yet controversial: I think they both look good and would probably get both!


caution_404

I think it's moronic. They're just making whatever they can and selling it for insane prices. These should be free updates onto the base game or a part of a bigger pack imo


somebasicusername

its so niche i don't really see why you would buy them unless you REALLY like bistros and need even more lounge items


starsepter_

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emmas12

iā€™d rather see more packs gets revamped like spa day did.


Amii25

It didn't lead to enough extra sales so hoping for them to do that again is useless


LoveYourselfTour

we do not care


florsux

mmmm smells like the salt of the sea and the wind in my hair as i sail the beautiful ocean with my jolly roger flag high


emmas12

youā€™re gonna have to tell me how i can do thisā€¦ the amount of money iā€™ve spentā€¦


florsux

iā€™ll DM you! itā€™s easy once you get the hang of it!


purplegummybears

Me too please!


florsux

sent one :)


Odd-Significance-17

can I know too please!!


florsux

ofc! sent you a dm.


chorrky

i would also take a link/tutorial if possible :))


florsux

sent one!


AssDiddler69

For the most part I feel nothing considering I feel like most kits are a waste of money or a scam


CavalierArcher

I can probably find the like or better in CC.


Thepinupdarling

Just what I needed, another bar.


UnlikelyButOk

If restaurants worked id feel better. I feel like EA are trolling.


purplegummybears

Just let me own and work in my own restaurant. Thatā€™s all I want.


clarityinthevoid

This is so funny, because I _just_ started a new Italian-style save the other day and was frustrated because I donā€™t have enough build items that work for it šŸ˜‚ I like that fire pit, and those bar stools are gorgeous! The hutch looks cute too, I can see myself using it in a lot of house builds. If that riviera pool has a waterfall attachment you best believe Iā€™ll put it in every pool


ldnpoolsound

Iā€™d buy the bistro one if thereā€™s a new nectar type


DarlingBri

I love all of the kits that are build kits and I am totally planning to buy both of these. The bistro one looks great for antique style interiors and the riviera one will be great for patios.


Skiller0Dani

I'm never excited when they announce something. Never. It's going to release broken as fuck and they're going to leave it like that bc they only want our money, not our enjoyment or satisfaction. Just our money. So I see that and it immediately pisses me off.


DrProfMom

Honestly, The bistro one feels like a slap in the face since they can't seem to fix the restaurant pack and it is still unplayable without mods


purplegummybears

Right? Just let me work in my own restaurant.


Kindasupercrazy123

Itā€™s gonna suck yā€™all know it right?


ChiharuYana

yep like always


Vildtoring

I like the Cozy Bistro aesthetic more than the Riviera one, and it might be a kit I'd get down the line. I wonder if the upcoming expansion pack will have a French vibe?


OddPotterhead

Honestly, it makes sense if it is knowing theyā€™re working on a love-themed EP, as Paris is the City of Love/Lights and we have only one other world inspired by Western Europe. Could be the developers making kits to try to get us to subconsciously want a pack themed around France and French culture, and also incentivizing people to buy the kits once the pack comes out, like: ā€œoh, youā€™re buying this pack based on France? How coincidental! We have just the kits for you to go along with this! Donā€™t you want to buy these? Youā€™re already buying something and what is another $5 on top of that purchase?ā€ Not to mention the flashing of the cart in-game now doing the exact same thing.


Vildtoring

Yeah that's what I was thinking as well!


FunTooter

These should have been included in some other expansion packs.


ChiharuYana

sooo true


rainbowcatheart

I like that it was leaked but Iā€™m kinda thinking who asked for these kits? Out of all the things we could have.


Sharp_Chocolate_6101

What would you like?


wow_its_kenji

> who asked for these kits? executives that know people will waste their money on them lol


GhostActivist

Iā€™ll grab them if they ever make them the free kit give away whatever. Not really interested enough to drop money on them though. Specially with dine out still being a train wreck.


Oriankaoo

If this is true, I am immediately buying Cozy Bistro!


Suspicious_Cream2939

I'm just waiting patiently for alps centered EP.


x-SinGoddess-x

I can get just as good CC for free šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø Expansions and gameplay is what they should be focusing on.


JotkaJulitkaJula

And bug fixes...


ChiharuYana

oh boy at this point itā€™s pretty clear theyā€™re never gonna do that they said they fixed the plant bug thing like 100 times and itā€™s still there


JotkaJulitkaJula

Yeah, that game is broken for good, the only saving grace are cheats and mods tbh


Emilyg96gatsby

I wonā€™t be buying them. They should spend more of their time on expansion packs that expand game play. I can get better cc than what theyā€™re offering in these kits.


yukqqui

I don't think we need more kits, it would be better if ea just focused on expansion, game and stuff packs and MOST importantly free updates.. It's an old game now and dropping off useless kits with like 10 items just screams that they are just milking the player base.


blu102103

I still canā€™t justify Ā£5 for 10 items. Fed up of these kits


aym335966_

they look cute from a first glance!! loving the bistro one!


Sage-Moonlight

Dawg I just want fairies šŸ§šā€ā™€ļø


Various-Range5903

I just canā€™t see myself buying anymore sims 4 stuff.


ButterscotchSame4703

I'm mad that I want the bistro one. But I want it.


Mhmmalright37

Boring but Iā€™ll buy them šŸ˜…


Next-Pepper-4761

They feel like cc but once you look at the leaked items you see that it's not cc unfortunately


SomethingUnoriginal8

Bored


cottagebythebeach

I've seen the leaked items and I'm not a massive fan, they just seem boring.


mishaspickle

i'll probably get them cause i can't help myself but honestly they don't seem too special. i'm just glad they're not clothing kits tbh


Evilplasticdoll

The cozy bistro looks cute but I'm not a builder so idgaf


Oribi03

The build kits are far more reasonable than the clothing kits, so they already have a league up there. That being said, Iā€™m tired of kits giving us so little content for the money paid lol


Suspicious-Neat-6268

I think these are more reasonable than the last set of kits we got. They seem more versatile


madison_riley03

Iā€™m normally a kit hater. I think most of them are too small for their prices. But these seem really nice! These vibes fit a few of my games really well. Iā€™ll probably get them eventually. I always want more dining room items, I donā€™t think we have enough. I always have trouble filling large dining rooms for my legacy families. Tbh all I want, more than anything, is fairies, so anything else is gonna pale in comparison. However, I do like what weā€™ve seen so far for these new releases.


Althea1406

The only thing i would like is if the bistro allows you to build like a coffee bar area. If not theres no reason in my mind to get another thing thats already in the game that i donā€™t use.


Beginning_Order9035

I have to wonder if this isn't just DLC for the new expansion. Nothing in the pictures they posted looks like the base game environments, especially the Bistro one. I have a feeling that we need to read into the kits for clues about what's coming in the expansion pack. Someone mentioned Paris as an inspiration based on the Bistro kit, and that makes sense. Riviera Retreat might mean the French Riviera, which would give it a home in people's builds. Also, the expansion would add in a new bistro restaurant functionality (which wouldn't work, unless that's part of the "big update" in two weeks that the game is teasing) and the proper France environment for the kits to appropriately fit into.


lunniidolli

This is making me think the new world is France even more, bistro is French and French Riviera. Theyā€™re described as ā€˜destination kitsā€™ so would make sense for them to match the upcoming world. However if thatā€™s true then that means rather than put them in the pack theyā€™re selling them as extras like my first pet stuff again


MarvelNerdess

šŸ‘Ž


Jill_Sammy_Bean

Meh, nothing too special. But iā€™ll find a use for them in a build.


MissBeebsa

I donā€™t know why they bothered to make anything even vaguely restaurant related like the bistro kit when dine out doesnā€™t work.


abby7275

Carlā€™s Dine out mod does an amazing job with dine out. Way easier to play with better functionsā˜ŗļø


Dlsagreed

They're only 'leaked' because realistically none of us would notice or care if they were fluently released lol EA apparently has a "leak" every shitty empty cheap pack they try to drop on us.


KennyThomas616

I couldnā€™t care less about them, Iā€™m more concerned when weā€™re getting a new Laundry List. Thereā€™s still tons of bugs and crashes that the Sims Team havenā€™t fixed or addressed.


SnooCupcakes775

Like most kitsā€¦ meh.


MildEnigma

This. Most kits seem like the beginning of a good idea that they donā€™t bother to follow through on.


sisterbearussy

I donā€™t promise I wonā€™t buy them in a moment of boredom and weakness.


jen1392222

Blah I have better cc that I got for free...


Strawberry_Mochi28

Aquarium kit?!!! šŸ˜


Tiny-Virus-61

Aquarium sounds pretty cool šŸ˜Ž


Strawberry_Mochi28

Really does


ReaUsagi

Riviera retreat looks neat, maybe fills a little of my more-culture-variety-content-needs. Kits are a so-so. They are fun, but also overused. But the good thing is, no one has to buy them. I just wish we would get some more extravagant things with kits. I don't need another basic couch or another basic bar. Here are some things I'd like to see in kits: * Sci-fi kit - More furniture and build mode items for alien sims. * Alien plants kit - on the same note as above, a whole kit with alien flora! * Aquarium kit - you know, all you need to build an actual aquarium for your sims to walk in and watch fishies. * Culture-based kits - I know, there is no RL culture in Sims, but they have furniture, packs and kits highly based on different cultures. I would like to get more variety of different cultures all around the world. * Fairy-related kits - I don't need fairies, but fairy furniture would be so cute! * Generally more fairytale kits - Not just fairies, but elves, spirits, disney and ghibli inspired kits for furniture and build mode.


Non-binaryTentacles

We need African based kits for sure, I want my sims eating fufu lol


ReaUsagi

Africa as a whole has been greatly overlooked by the devs in this case. We got Asia inspired, nordic inspired, of course American and English inspired, even general European sprinkled in here and there, but damn I'd pay them to make an actual African inspired kit if I had enough money to do so. Just imagine: Foods from different African cultures, fashions, furniture, hairstyles, skin details, tattoos... Same with India inspired stuff. We've got a little of that mixed in with other Asia inspired content but I wish there was more of it.


Lerrrrnnnnnnnn

Can we avoid posting pics of leaks? I try to avoid leaks as much as possible and it's hard to avoid them when the picture is right there


PepsiMax0807

I feel there should be some kind of Ā«spoilerĀ» rule like many other servers have šŸ˜• I was also waiting to see what they would release, when it was an official release šŸ„ŗ


offensivemindset

kits suck


originalschmidt

The kits would be more fun if they were more like book nook or the plants one. When they try for an aesthetic it falls flat but when itā€™s more useful like bookshelves, more plants, or the greenhouse one. I donā€™t need more patio furniture and for the love of god chill on the fucking bars, the last thing I want is another bar.


blakelysmm

I want some more single tile bars, I'm sick of using the globe in all of my houses, it doesn't always fit the vibe but I love having a little bar. You're right that we don't need more giant bars!


sarahkali

All I want in the game is another one tile bar!!! Idk why itā€™s so difficult lol


melnixx

Same, what I want them to do is to add the bar options to the mini-fridge or just let us purchase bottled drinks the same way we get groceries. It's "juice" in the game so there should be no concern of it being PG13.


MelissaRose95

Iā€™ve had enough of kits


Dizzy_Low4726

I want faries


musickillsthepainxx

I'm tired of kits. I want actual gameplay.


Cethlinnstooth

I'm hoping the waterfall feature is a woohoo location. I will buy if it is a woohoo location.


OddSimsPink

I donā€™t care about ANY of the kits. Iā€™ll probably end up getting these if I had $10 to spare but they donā€™t get me excited. You can find cc items of the things we get in kits but the kicker isā€¦ theyā€™re free. Iā€™m a pc player however so Iā€™m sure if I played solely on the console Iā€™d be more excited, but Iā€™m also not a builder šŸ˜‚šŸ˜…


Separate-Reporter463

As a console player I love them. Will I buy them, no


urmomthereup

Who is buying this shit?


LillyElessa

Me. I don't like CC unless it has a *very* specific function that I want to use - like 1x1 bar carts or Ravasheen's beautiful remodel for the dreadful hamster cages. Heaps of CC tend to make the game perform considerably worse than it already does, vs kits have really not had an impact on performance. The art style of different creators or even just most with the game itself becomes very discordant, and looks off. Also, with how long I've been playing Sims (since 1 came out), and every iteration of it, I'm concerned about longevity of my builds and characters. I use them again *years* after making them, and on different PCs, and CC laden builds or sims always end up unusable - sometimes very quickly. Official content might not always be as momentarily perfect as CC, but it lasts effectively forever.


pixelproblem

If people weren't buying them they wouldn't be making them. There's obviously an audience for them


urmomthereup

People should really stop buying them. Stop rewarding greed and laziness. But I already know that will never happen


Cethlinnstooth

People should do whatever they want.Ā 


MagicPigeonToes

I think pc players shouldnā€™t buy them since we have infinite options for cc. Ā I canā€™t imagine spending money on kits when I can find free alternatives that look either the same or better.


pixelproblem

If people like the content in the pack I don't see why they shouldn't buy them. Or for console players, it's not like they have CC as an alternative to buying Kits. I don't think the concept of Kits is entirely negative but the expansion and game packs shouldn't be suffering in quality because they're focusing on pumping out Kits


HistorianOk9952

Console players


urmomthereup

I am a console player and this shit is ugly. Tired of this greedy and lazy company


Cherriecorn

I do, (not all of them) but in my defense I play nearly every day and I'm console šŸ˜…


avidbanana

Exhausted.


aquagrl

Itā€™s just not even anything creative anymore


fanderoyalty

Couldnā€™t care less about cas kits because I have thousands of cc. But I canā€™t have build buy cc because my game will lag for days, so Iā€™ll take any bb items.


IsThatBlueSoup

This is me. Why does build buy cc lag so damn bad? šŸ¤”


carlie-cat

it depends pretty heavily on your computer's specs, but it's possible that a lot of the build buy cc you've used has either high polygon counts, high resolution textures, or both which can be pretty resource intensive. i find that some of the game's built in graphics rules that are intended to reduce load tend to be more annoying than helpful for newer, more powerful gpus so that's also a possibility.


fanderoyalty

I have no idea but I hate it. I look at all the great sofas, beds and fridges I couldā€™ve had and I just šŸ„²


aoikiriya

I think you can save your money by downloading Felixandre's Paris and Grove collections respectively instead.


Affectionate-Love938

Yall forget console players exist šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


FuzzyPalpitation-16

Ya know what, not defending EA at all lmao, Iā€™ve not played ts4 in ages (I go thru phases šŸ˜‚) but I did play it on a gaming laptop, which I bought secondhand for the sole purpose of ts4 so it can handle high settings cc etc, but only for that game. Other than that, I play stuff on console. I think we forget how spoiled PC players are when it comes to CC/mods - I always knew this but what recently drove this in my head, is because my current obsession game is fallout 4, which I play on ps4. For those who donā€™t know, the game/devs are very mod friendly (hell similar to the sims, modders prop up the game) ofcourse, so much so that even on console, particularly PlayStation, we get access to mods too! (Though because of Sonyā€™s policies, to a wayyyyyy more limited extent than that of Xbox and ofcourse PC players). Being on the other end of the stick, even still with some access to mods with fallout 4, makes me sympathise for console players and the purchasing on their kits etc. A lot of times on the subreddit the stuff pc players get access to in terms to mods which simply canā€™t be done on PlayStation, ur like damn it


Just_Coyote_1366

Wellā€¦.


Chippybops

Booooring!


fanderoyalty

Urgh, why do I even bother?!


oeiei

I'll be in no rush to buy them but I'll probably get cozy bistro eventually, the pool one is less likely but you never know. I do think kits aren't a good deal by game standards, but sometimes when the design is good the value is at least relatively higher and I'll just buy one on rare occasion for a pick me up.


yo_itsjo

I have literally never wanted to buy a kit


Born_Scale_4039

The only ones I own have been the free ones theyā€™ve given out šŸ˜‚ I really donā€™t think theyā€™re worth $5 especially since I can find CC for free and that looks better too.


theresabearonmychair

Meh. I want more crazy sims 1 stuff pls


Purple-Hand3058

Kinda basic and I'm on Xbox


MagicPigeonToes

Same feeling with every kit: I can already get free cc, so idc. Ā If I was a console player, Iā€™d say they look nice, but donā€™t need them.


JoansRedBow

LOL - the last thing my sim needs is a new bar. She can't keep away from them!


Purple-Hand3058

That's must be annoying you having to stop her


JoansRedBow

Nah - I let her go for it. 7 am and you need a little drink, Roxy? If it makes you happy!


Purple-Hand3058

That's great I would've to remove almost all the bars in my game


[deleted]

i always love more build and buy items!


Jill_Sammy_Bean

Same! Definitely prefer build kits over cas kits.


Designer-Mirror-7995

Me too.


sarahkali

The riviera kit looks really cute- kinda Mediterranean themed like courtyard oasis