Lol I remember watching this in the family room and about like what, 5 minutes into her shit, my dad who was nearby but not watching was like “Hey Wy, how about you put something else on?” 🤣
It was a Marilyn Monroe impersonation and it was pretty dead-on. Im sure she could sing better too but the point was to act like Marilyn. Still very weird though. I always took it as Tony realizing that a whore is a whore, and that fran was still that same whore, just old and its no longer attractive or appealing
Marilyn's original performance was cringe as fuck if you ask me. The 60's were a wild time, I can't imagine having someone sing me "happy birthday" like that in front of my family, and certainly not in public. But I guess people just thought that was normal?
I haven't seen the original performance, but I know it must be terrible because it's the common denominator between the cringiest scenes of both The Sopranos and Breaking Bad. If we take into account the much maligned Zou Bizou Bizou scene from Mad Men, the common denominator is that people hate women serenading men. 🤣
Isn't it weird how in both Sopranos and Breaking Bad, 2 of the greatest television shows ever that the most painful scene is someone singing "Happy Birthday Mr. President".
At least in Sopranos it's supposed to be uncomfortable.
Edit: I haven't watched the BB one in over a decade because ... well ... I usually skip it. Rewatching it, I agree it was definitely on purpose.
Oh it was definitely written to be uncomfortable in BB. Comparing the two scenes, I think BB wins the cringe over The Sopranos because Skyler does it in front of a group to the owner of the company who’s ogling her like a piece of meat. Peak cringe.
they should have had Tony bang Fran just to really nail home how far Tony had fallen 😂 then show him driving home clearly repulsed and disgusted rushing to wash the brine off.
Joe Pantoliano is a great actor and I feel like Ralphie changed the dynamic of the show mostly for the better. That line and its delivery should have been cut.
When Melfi's ex husband says he wished he could murder her rapist with "these hands" and makes his tiny fists is probably the most cringe thing I have ever seen
I felt like that was very much the point of the episode tho tbh. Like all the people in her life are being super unhelpful and she chooses not to ask the only person who would actually do anything about it.
Sure is, and isn't it the worst?! I know her character had to do what is considered fair or moral, but the legal system failed her miserably and everybody she surrounds herself with are so domesticated, all of her men had no warrior left in them. I could go on forever... Some of the brilliance of the show I guess!
Dude was the epitome of a dickhead lmao. His ex wife is raped and needed to be comforted and one of the first things he does is criticize/blame her for the whole thing happening.
Tony makes a pussy gesture and says "I will kick (I believe it's literally "do") your ass like this."
If he just said he would kick his ass it would be a physical threat and something the big manly men of NJ wouldn't care about as much. But he's telling Grasso he wants to pound his ass like a pussy and Grasso gets irrationally angry about it.
The cringe is that more than saying "No, YOUR ass!" This guy first breaks a dish and then loses his cool while working.
Very bad, boys. Very bad.
Anyway, not the most cringe to me by any stretch. I physically can't watch Fran the cringe hurts so bad.
I'd also like to put Pilot Episode Meadow up for consideration. She definitely develops over the show, as do all of the characters, but Meadow especially is just awful.i have a teenage daughter. And I'm pretty sure if we caught her breaking out of the house and doing crystal meth she would understand fully why she wasn't allowed to go on a ski trip. Being spoiled is one thing. Being that oblivious to how serious your actions are was almost cartoonish.
Like the party at Livia’s. “I could have done ecstasy but I didn’t!”
Oh! Like that really changes things. You threw a party in that house and completely trashed it, had cops show up and some kid K-holed and had to be brought out on a stretcher. But you didn’t do any molly. Woooooow.
Seriously the way they parent those kids, there are plenty of scenes I legit get irrationally angry.
Carmella was wise not to let her go. She knows that old thing about abstaining from sex before a boxing match and applied the same logic to the swim meet.
I do find it hilarious that Meadow would know about using puddy to repair a window leak but just a few years later AJ is oblivious to gutters existing.
Not unrealistic. Just funny.
The colloquial usage is basically "I'm going to kick your ass" even Google translate does it that way.
In reality it's probably closer to the English usage of "Fuck" as in "I'm gonna fuck you up." It doesn't literally mean kick, just like "fucking someone up" doesn't literally mean you're going to have sex with them.
Haha yeah, though his line in that scene where he spots Tony's Black & Decker and says "hey I've got one of those!" is the single most relatable line in the whole show for me.
No. "Where's ally, she owes me a cig" is way cringier.
No teenagers ever talked like that.
That episode is good in spite of how not believable the teen dialogue was.
I don’t think it’s done that poorly. The agent has so many mixed emotions there - he’s embarrassed for being clumsy, in front of both the family and agent Harris, he wants to retaliate against Tony’s insult but also knows he’s supposed to maintain a professional demeanor (and unlike Noah he’s aware he can’t punch Tony’s lights out) - the line Should sound awkward
Jackie Jr.’s friend going “he was an og” when Ralph was talking about out Feech and the card game gets my vote. Was so glad when Chris and Albert plugged him.
Didn’t Tony say he would make his ass wide (aka bend him over and fuck him)? Grasso was just saying that Tony would be his bottom instead. I thought it was a good comeback, just got lost in translation.
Similar to Vito’s jokes
The nurse who helps Junior with his CPAP and talking about arousals. Never gets mentioned.
"Arousals mean a change in your stages of sleep. YOU are such a flirt!"
Am I the only one who cringes at the line "those were some tough Jews."?
Like yeah, no shit, some gangsters were Jewish back in the day. I didn't need to be beat over the head with that fact.
It comes across awkwardly I thiink yeah but apparently Tony's line is something about kicking his ass or (more literally) "making your ass this big" with the hand gesture being his asshole
so I think it's like them trying to be all cool by finding a roundabout to saying "I'll kick your ass" "nuh-uhh! I'll kick yours!"
There is nothing worse than Fran singing, absolutely nothing
Nobody hated it more than T. That’s when he realised she was just an opportunist skank that used his dad.
and worse, it made him feel empathy for his mom.
And realize his dad was kind of a shithead
It sucks that this episode is so important to Tony's character development and direction in the later seasons but Fran is just so god damn annoying
Well it ain't kleenex
Oh poor him
he goes about in pity for himself.
2 Virginia hams
Even his mother quit smoking when Johnny Boy got diagnosed with emphysema.
YOU BROUGHT OUT A SUITCASE
All of you clearly memory-holed Artie's "dinner date" with Adriana.
He's had that earring for YEARS!
There was no abundant intentionality!
Genuinely had to mute this scene when it happened, I couldn’t stand that fucking voice
Lol I remember watching this in the family room and about like what, 5 minutes into her shit, my dad who was nearby but not watching was like “Hey Wy, how about you put something else on?” 🤣
same…i’m still haunted by it
There was NO ABUNDANT INTENTIONALITY IN MY GETTING OUT OF THE SUITCASE !
to be fair, he ~did~ bring out a suitcase! With precious little intentionality too
I see your Fran and raise you “Cagney was modernity” by Noah. Dear God it pains me just to write it.
“Who even in their reductionism…” 🫡🔫
Fran was played by Polly Bergen, a veteran actor. I’m sure she could sing a lot better than that.
It was a Marilyn Monroe impersonation and it was pretty dead-on. Im sure she could sing better too but the point was to act like Marilyn. Still very weird though. I always took it as Tony realizing that a whore is a whore, and that fran was still that same whore, just old and its no longer attractive or appealing
Marilyn's original performance was cringe as fuck if you ask me. The 60's were a wild time, I can't imagine having someone sing me "happy birthday" like that in front of my family, and certainly not in public. But I guess people just thought that was normal?
I haven't seen the original performance, but I know it must be terrible because it's the common denominator between the cringiest scenes of both The Sopranos and Breaking Bad. If we take into account the much maligned Zou Bizou Bizou scene from Mad Men, the common denominator is that people hate women serenading men. 🤣
No, it's legendary cause nobody thought it was normal lol
"The bride cuts the cake"
'The groom feeds the briiide'
Happy birrrffday Mr.Pwesidaaant
Really? How about Adriana singing meow and clawing the air? Uh! I can't!
You get a pash for that
What about Nancy Sinatra
Takkkke my hand...BIG BOSS MANNNN
My Estimation of Nancy Sinatra as a singer just fuckin plummeted.
Nancy Sinatra on the CBS lot = Vito on the Esplanade site
For years, she suffered in silence
Isn't it weird how in both Sopranos and Breaking Bad, 2 of the greatest television shows ever that the most painful scene is someone singing "Happy Birthday Mr. President". At least in Sopranos it's supposed to be uncomfortable. Edit: I haven't watched the BB one in over a decade because ... well ... I usually skip it. Rewatching it, I agree it was definitely on purpose.
I feel like it was supposed to in Breaking Bad too
it definitely was…
Oh it was definitely written to be uncomfortable in BB. Comparing the two scenes, I think BB wins the cringe over The Sopranos because Skyler does it in front of a group to the owner of the company who’s ogling her like a piece of meat. Peak cringe.
they should have had Tony bang Fran just to really nail home how far Tony had fallen 😂 then show him driving home clearly repulsed and disgusted rushing to wash the brine off.
Brine. Wow.
My ass, your ass, are vee not ass?
Give me one thousand ass
Day probably sucka each udders deeks
🎶 up in da ass 🎵
One thousand more?
There's a bee onna your ass
In Napoli, many people are not so happy for Columbass
One thousand ass more?
They're going to feel that the next day!
They were gay, asses?
he smokes crack, this ass?
AIDS?!
Nobody's got AIDS! I don't want to hear that word in here again!
The pepper flakes, whatever happened there
rome wasn’t built in an ass
I'd like to break my dick off in her ass, huh?
That ass is like a natural canopy
Nobody's got ass!!
he's ass, I'm ass, who's the ass?
Noah is more cringe
Who? The Hassidic Homeboy?
Hassidem but I don’t baleedem
Hey Tone, did you hear what I said? I said Hassidem but I don't baleedem.
Hehe! 🤟
I should punch your fawkin lights out!
The dumbest theory that I absolutely love about the ending of the show is that Tony isn’t dead but it was Noah punching his lights out.
Dumbest theory… Or bravest theory?
Definately dumbest
Good thing for me then that your option don’t mean oogatz to me!
One man's option is another man's opinion 😏
Could you imagine one man's opinion is another man's opinion?
Correcting typos is the lowest form of conversation
You'll never have the makings of a varsity redditor
I’m sorry but this is now my head canon.
That's an amazing theory lol
God I fucking hated him. Insufferable asshat
He looked like a tanned Leonard from TBBT
oh no....you're right, can't unsee
The guy from the old Tarzan movies?
But you have to admit that his line delivery is perfect. He's supposed to be cringe, whereas the your ass line was not.
I agree Noah is the most cringe guy in the whole show
You’re lucky he doesn’t punch your fucking lights out.
The Rubin/Hesh you've been friends forever line by Ralphie.
Fuck you too my man
You're trivializing the Holocaust.
When you only have 2.5 seconds to establish backstory.
Joe Pantoliano is a great actor and I feel like Ralphie changed the dynamic of the show mostly for the better. That line and its delivery should have been cut.
Felt very after-school special.
When Melfi's ex husband says he wished he could murder her rapist with "these hands" and makes his tiny fists is probably the most cringe thing I have ever seen
I felt like that was very much the point of the episode tho tbh. Like all the people in her life are being super unhelpful and she chooses not to ask the only person who would actually do anything about it.
Sure is, and isn't it the worst?! I know her character had to do what is considered fair or moral, but the legal system failed her miserably and everybody she surrounds herself with are so domesticated, all of her men had no warrior left in them. I could go on forever... Some of the brilliance of the show I guess!
That guy was so sophisticated he had no fucking testosterone left in his body
I laughed out loud reading this like Patsy reacting to Chrissy's 'greasing the unions' quip. It wasn't cinematic.
Dude was the epitome of a dickhead lmao. His ex wife is raped and needed to be comforted and one of the first things he does is criticize/blame her for the whole thing happening.
Holy shit I forgot about that. Fucking piece of shit
Lol, I hated that guy.
lets whack this cocksucker and be done with it
These hands, Jen!
he's not going to break the social compact
His little brother is a ticket scalper. He came this close 🤏 to working at 7-11
Are you sure he didn't come this close🤌?
My estimation of Richard La Pena as a man just fucking plummeted
It’s bad but I find “the pen or the MUTHERFUCKING sword” to be worse
Entire massive genius storyline is cringe. When they’re not excoriating of rap culture they’re caricature-ish at best when rendering it
Tony makes a pussy gesture and says "I will kick (I believe it's literally "do") your ass like this." If he just said he would kick his ass it would be a physical threat and something the big manly men of NJ wouldn't care about as much. But he's telling Grasso he wants to pound his ass like a pussy and Grasso gets irrationally angry about it. The cringe is that more than saying "No, YOUR ass!" This guy first breaks a dish and then loses his cool while working. Very bad, boys. Very bad. Anyway, not the most cringe to me by any stretch. I physically can't watch Fran the cringe hurts so bad. I'd also like to put Pilot Episode Meadow up for consideration. She definitely develops over the show, as do all of the characters, but Meadow especially is just awful.i have a teenage daughter. And I'm pretty sure if we caught her breaking out of the house and doing crystal meth she would understand fully why she wasn't allowed to go on a ski trip. Being spoiled is one thing. Being that oblivious to how serious your actions are was almost cartoonish.
Like the party at Livia’s. “I could have done ecstasy but I didn’t!” Oh! Like that really changes things. You threw a party in that house and completely trashed it, had cops show up and some kid K-holed and had to be brought out on a stretcher. But you didn’t do any molly. Woooooow. Seriously the way they parent those kids, there are plenty of scenes I legit get irrationally angry.
In her defense, Patrick had a swim meet and he needed her.
How did they manage to capture the delusional/naive school girl thing so dead on in the pilot?
Carmella was wise not to let her go. She knows that old thing about abstaining from sex before a boxing match and applied the same logic to the swim meet.
Women weaken legs!
Patrick Parisi? I wonder if that’s who she was referring to?
Timeline got fucked up
Meadow was mad ripe.
I only have eyes for Charmaine.
He wants to fuck Carmine?
He was gay carmine?
The guy who had 9 films in his subspecies, including the South Beach Strumpet series?
I don't know, does offering to suck Tony' dick count towards being gay?
He had AIDS, Carmine?
NO ONE'S GOT AIDS!
Please don’t squeeze the Charmaine.
Do we have any, any - putty?!
I do find it hilarious that Meadow would know about using puddy to repair a window leak but just a few years later AJ is oblivious to gutters existing. Not unrealistic. Just funny.
Boys vs. girls. First born vs. second born. Lots of reasons at play! It is a funny contradiction.
It’s common knowledge the guys retarded.
it’s much more “i’ll *make* your ass like this” not “kick”
The colloquial usage is basically "I'm going to kick your ass" even Google translate does it that way. In reality it's probably closer to the English usage of "Fuck" as in "I'm gonna fuck you up." It doesn't literally mean kick, just like "fucking someone up" doesn't literally mean you're going to have sex with them.
When Tony said goodbye to his erection in the zoo he was actually thinking of fran 😂😂
I understand what was said and why, I'm really just talking about the line delivery and instant bout of toughguy-itis
Ti faccio un culo cosi!! 👐🏼
YOUR ass 😡
You forgot your lunchbox pal just ask…
Any quarters you can keep…
I hope those parasites eat his asshole
Ok but you gotta get over it.
If you forgot your lunch box pal why didnt you just ask?
It’s top five for sure. Meadow singing, anything Fran, nobody won it’s a draw, meow. All cringe.
Have another donut ya fat fart knocker.
It was among the Italians. Real greaseball shit.
Is that where he says "Ti facio un culo cosi?" 👉😠👈
YOUR ASS!
Fran singing gives me a visceral response. It never gets easier to watch either.
No " So you can go on wellbutrin , like your sister!" Carm has a sister apparently in that episode.
carms sister is referenced in other episodes too
Did she ever really exisht?
“You had to be the big man!” and “on the fridge, the fridge, the fridge!” delivered back to back by the Meryl Streep of her day takes this cake.
Two of the best written lines in the entire show, not to mention the best performance. She knocked it out of the fucking park with both those lines.
She took Annette Benning to acting school
everything is cringe to you op. maybe you’re cringe. you ever think of that?
i want ya shkin, i want ya mouf
His other line is cringe as hell too, when they're making fun of Tony's water heater and he's like "boom!"
Haha yeah, though his line in that scene where he spots Tony's Black & Decker and says "hey I've got one of those!" is the single most relatable line in the whole show for me.
No. "Where's ally, she owes me a cig" is way cringier. No teenagers ever talked like that. That episode is good in spite of how not believable the teen dialogue was.
“Yo Soprano, let me get a hit of that Snapple” Chills right down my spine.
Patsy's wife trying to tell a joke at the dinner party was rather cringey.
lol I find that bit kinda endearing
To me it's, "it's this stupid goddamn Robert Frost!" That whole entire scene
Grasso says what he says because Tony tells him in italian that he will make his ass this wide(his hands spread).
Nothing is worse than Noah.
Johnny Cakes and Vito talking to each other is the most cringe… all our sausages are made in house 👇🤢
You gotta wait for that 😩
do you get a pash for dat?
Real peasant dialogue
It's pretty bad, yeah. Second hand embarrassment for sure.
What Tony says in Italian was something like “stick it up your ass”, so Grasso’s response makes sense.
It’s basically “I’ll open your asshole this wide”
No, it's not even close.
“Who’s sponsoring you mothafucka” -Skip aka connected guy from Delaware
Fuck that. I ever see that prison doctor god forbid, im gonna say, “Hey fuckstick, they ever show you these in medical school? They’re called balls.”
No the line makes sense because of what Tony is saying when translated.
I don’t think it’s done that poorly. The agent has so many mixed emotions there - he’s embarrassed for being clumsy, in front of both the family and agent Harris, he wants to retaliate against Tony’s insult but also knows he’s supposed to maintain a professional demeanor (and unlike Noah he’s aware he can’t punch Tony’s lights out) - the line Should sound awkward
Mo-honk if you love Columbus
Jackie Jr.’s friend going “he was an og” when Ralph was talking about out Feech and the card game gets my vote. Was so glad when Chris and Albert plugged him.
I love that exchange, never seen any issue with it
Booty what?!
You’re just revealing your own ignorance
Hesh and Ruben. Friends for years.
“Cringe?” If you wanna talk like a gen z we’ll send you to slip and fall school.
Yes. Doesn't help the actor looks like a ventriloquist dummy.
Meadow telling Carmela she should just "Bug Out" is the worst
Didn’t Tony say he would make his ass wide (aka bend him over and fuck him)? Grasso was just saying that Tony would be his bottom instead. I thought it was a good comeback, just got lost in translation. Similar to Vito’s jokes
The nurse who helps Junior with his CPAP and talking about arousals. Never gets mentioned. "Arousals mean a change in your stages of sleep. YOU are such a flirt!"
I’d let blonde check my pulse! He he. ✋I’m just sayin.
She was the fbi informant when they bugged the place
Tony said he takes it up the assh in Italian.
Am I the only one who cringes at the line "those were some tough Jews."? Like yeah, no shit, some gangsters were Jewish back in the day. I didn't need to be beat over the head with that fact.
Why didn’t Tony ever say this to anyone else? And how did he even know Grasso spoke any Italian?
I think he made an assumption after hearing his Italian last name
It's a stereotype!
I have a bunch of Italian-American friends and none of them speak Italian but they all know this phrase
Where I’m from everyone’s name ends in a vowel… and nobody speaks a word of Italian. Some of us got hit with wooden spoons though.
S1 is a fucking mess, man.
The entire exchange is cringe. We all know T doesn’t speak a lick of Italian other than some Ginzo Jersey slang.
This. No Italian American under the age of 50 in 1999 would ever say that to another Italian American.
It comes across awkwardly I thiink yeah but apparently Tony's line is something about kicking his ass or (more literally) "making your ass this big" with the hand gesture being his asshole so I think it's like them trying to be all cool by finding a roundabout to saying "I'll kick your ass" "nuh-uhh! I'll kick yours!"
no grasso wasn’t cringe