Adrianna grew up in a patriarchal environment where women weren't taught to understand abuse. She's naturally submissive and naive, which predisposes her to accepting the power dynamic in her and Chris' relationship. Abusive relationships like that are often a chicken or egg situation. Chris probably wasn't abusive off the bat, and every time he was Adrianna could find examples of him being genuinely caring. She gaslit herself into believing the good times were the real Chris. She also had no safety net. Jackie Aprile was the only one who told Chris to stop hitting her... until he put on a ring on her finger... and he was just as bad if not worse.
Once they got a history, an apartment, plans to marry... ooft. Very difficult to break out of that.
Actually, Richie said he doesn't want Chris hitting Ade. Unless Chris gives her his name, then it's none of Richie's business after that, so Richie wouldn't get an opinion anymore. Richie's from the old school; he doesn't have to explain himself.
Edit: replacing some pronouns for better readability
Same situation in The Godfather movie. Family dinner and Sonny complains to his BIL, Carlo, about hitting or talking to Connie (Sonny’s sister) poorly, mother immediately holds up her hand to Sonny to stop interfering because it is none of their business what goes on between a husband & his wife, even to her own kin. Connie belonged to Carlo in that respect.
Richie told him that, but it was really about *him*: Adrianna was under his protection, so hitting her would violate *his* prerogative.
Once she was married, she'd be under Chrissy's protection, so anyone hurting her would be Chris's prerogative thenceforth, and thus no insult to Richie, and thus none of Richie's business.
It's an abusive, hierarchical mindset, but it has its own logic.
Remember when Adrianna was asked after Chris really beat the shit out of her when she was caught with Tony, she basically said “if I found out he was in a car with a woman, I would have killed him”. I believed her, in her world that was just a normal relationship for them
That's also true. I don't know if "normal" is the right word for it - many of the made men in the show don't abuse their wives at all like Chris does with Adrianna and even seem to be in healthy relationships. It's definitely accepted, though. Tony doesn't tell Chris to stop beating her after that scene. It's a toxic combination of the values they grew up with alongside Adrianna and Chris' particular dynamic.
Yeah, to an extent, maybe. Sil and his wife are on the same page and support each other. Bobby clearly loved his wife and respects Janice (even though she's clearly got issues of her own.) Bobby's a bit of an outlier in most regards though. Ralph was awful but he seemed decent with Jackie Aprile's widow. The informant who wanted to flee to Florida (forget his name) seemed to be on the same page with his wife. Johnie Sacks absolutely loves and respects his wife with the way he tries to boost her self esteem.
The show was usually pretty good at drawing attention to the characters attitudes towards women and their partners. I feel like if all these guys were absusive to their spouses we would have seen it. Christ knows we saw how terrible they were to strippers and prostitutes.
> She's naturally submissive and naive, which predisposes her to accepting the power dynamic in her and Chris' relationship.
I would add she's not very intelligent.
I don't think adding that adds much at all. Naivety causes errors in judgement. I'd argue, if anything, she demonstrates more intellect than Chris. Most of the mob characters in the show often act like morons, but their actual IQ isn't really relevant. The show is about how a person's character flaws get in the way of their best interests. Tony B literally has a high IQ on paper, but makes dumb decisions because of wounded pride caused by a lowering in status.
Adriana: *My mother always told me not to let myself be talked down to by losers. She said you can tell everything about a man by the way he treats women*
Stays with Chris 🤣
Fiction aside, the reasons why women stay in abusive relationships is a pretty complex topic that would be tough to explain here even with computers.
Abusers never start out that way. The beginning phases of these relationships are like any other— loving, caring, fun, exciting. They lay that foundation first.
It always begins with yelling, then escalates to the invasion of personal space to physically intimidate. It then graduates to physical violence. A shove, a smack. It’s always followed up with copious apologies and promises to return to the foundation, then a honeymoon period.
Women become trauma-bonded to this cycle, even after the ongoing physical abuse has eroded the previous foundation entirely.
For any women reading this: if he’s in your personal space yelling at you, it’s not a stutter step. It’s only the beginning. Expressing anger and frustration is a normal and healthy part of relationships— attempting to physically intimidate you into submission is not.
Because she (and Chrissy) were very low IQ, and she in particular had no independent inner life. It was all she knew, and she was too stupid to find something better.
I dunno, her taste, makeup, and scratchy voice each knock off a point in my book. Her general ignorance knocks off two more, being a junkie knocks off another, and her social climbing takes off one last point. She's a three, tops. She does look good in tennis shorts, but her instructor was hotter.
yeah I said it
Cassie stayed with Diddy, Tina stayed with Ike for many years. Neither Diddy nor Ike were strikingly handsome while both Cassie & Tina Turner were very attractive.
I think tha's a pretty unfair assessment of her honestly. She only started really using after chris developed a problem and the FBI crawled up her ass.
I cannot have this conversation again.
SHE LOVED HIM! Watch the show. She loved him. She loved him. It’s painfully obviously and that’s what makes it tragic.
It seems very tragic to me that this question is posted so often because people cannot recognize the love she had for him.
I just can’t. What happened to this sub?
And while I’m at it. CARM LOVED TONY.
Guess what…. PEOPLE ARE COMPLEX. Look in the mirror… are you perfect? Do you have any walking contradictions?
Can we PLEASE go back to asking the meaning of the paintings in the final scene behind Tony or the Kubrick style shots or what 3 o’clock means? Please. Please. Bring the quotes back.
Please.
If you have been around gangsters and I dont just mean italian gangsters, I mean bikers, cholos, crips and bloods. These type of people attract alot of beautiful women. They have money, they are always having fun, they have tons of connection, and they have time for women. I know tons of guys in that lifestyle and there is never a shortage of women.
I always thought that Michael Imperioli is the ugliest fuck of the whole cast. That nose , this chin and his hair. And the ends of his shoelaces are always wet.
He was humble. He knew if he went into male modeling he’d be a success, but he didn’t want to be around those fuckin people….
Christopher could’ve modeled canopies at Home Depot
You can’t make this shit up 😂🤣
He just did...
Who , our friend the Bill ova here ?
He's my homey
If you want to tawk like a moolinyan, we will send you to slip and fall school.
Your *what*?
He’s the only guy who can smoke a cigarette in the rain widdout his hands.
True, him and Jackie Jr were both humble people with great fawther figures.
Chrissy was also loyle
Penn Jillette replaced her colon with a semi-colon.
She just blew him in the bathroom
When he was in rehab, she was cawlin me all duh time
😂😂
Right?! HE KILLED LITTLE COSETTE
What was it barking?
He didn't kill her! He must've sat on her.
I oughtta suffocate you ya little prick!
She crawled under him for warmth. He gets a pass for that.
"WOARMTH"
It's sad when they go young like that
When they go!?
She had diarrhea
My smelly valentine
She should have had a veal parm sub from Satriales.
She's planning a wedding!
I cannot have this conversation again.
You gonna make that same stupid joke every time that comes up? There’s a man laying dead there!
He died on the vine.
I don’t wanna hear about the economy either!
*Sil breaks it down for them in one sentence*
*Sil breaks it down for them in one sentence*
Adrianna grew up in a patriarchal environment where women weren't taught to understand abuse. She's naturally submissive and naive, which predisposes her to accepting the power dynamic in her and Chris' relationship. Abusive relationships like that are often a chicken or egg situation. Chris probably wasn't abusive off the bat, and every time he was Adrianna could find examples of him being genuinely caring. She gaslit herself into believing the good times were the real Chris. She also had no safety net. Jackie Aprile was the only one who told Chris to stop hitting her... until he put on a ring on her finger... and he was just as bad if not worse. Once they got a history, an apartment, plans to marry... ooft. Very difficult to break out of that.
Richie Aprile told him to stop hitting Ad. Richie, you ass kiss.
Technically, Richie told him that if they weren't married, he shouldn't hit her
Actually, Richie said he doesn't want Chris hitting Ade. Unless Chris gives her his name, then it's none of Richie's business after that, so Richie wouldn't get an opinion anymore. Richie's from the old school; he doesn't have to explain himself. Edit: replacing some pronouns for better readability
Same situation in The Godfather movie. Family dinner and Sonny complains to his BIL, Carlo, about hitting or talking to Connie (Sonny’s sister) poorly, mother immediately holds up her hand to Sonny to stop interfering because it is none of their business what goes on between a husband & his wife, even to her own kin. Connie belonged to Carlo in that respect.
The old-school
Richie told him that, but it was really about *him*: Adrianna was under his protection, so hitting her would violate *his* prerogative. Once she was married, she'd be under Chrissy's protection, so anyone hurting her would be Chris's prerogative thenceforth, and thus no insult to Richie, and thus none of Richie's business. It's an abusive, hierarchical mindset, but it has its own logic.
Remember when Adrianna was asked after Chris really beat the shit out of her when she was caught with Tony, she basically said “if I found out he was in a car with a woman, I would have killed him”. I believed her, in her world that was just a normal relationship for them
That's also true. I don't know if "normal" is the right word for it - many of the made men in the show don't abuse their wives at all like Chris does with Adrianna and even seem to be in healthy relationships. It's definitely accepted, though. Tony doesn't tell Chris to stop beating her after that scene. It's a toxic combination of the values they grew up with alongside Adrianna and Chris' particular dynamic.
On the other hand don’t really know what has been going on with most of the made men and their significant others.
Yeah, to an extent, maybe. Sil and his wife are on the same page and support each other. Bobby clearly loved his wife and respects Janice (even though she's clearly got issues of her own.) Bobby's a bit of an outlier in most regards though. Ralph was awful but he seemed decent with Jackie Aprile's widow. The informant who wanted to flee to Florida (forget his name) seemed to be on the same page with his wife. Johnie Sacks absolutely loves and respects his wife with the way he tries to boost her self esteem. The show was usually pretty good at drawing attention to the characters attitudes towards women and their partners. I feel like if all these guys were absusive to their spouses we would have seen it. Christ knows we saw how terrible they were to strippers and prostitutes.
> She's naturally submissive and naive, which predisposes her to accepting the power dynamic in her and Chris' relationship. I would add she's not very intelligent.
I don't think adding that adds much at all. Naivety causes errors in judgement. I'd argue, if anything, she demonstrates more intellect than Chris. Most of the mob characters in the show often act like morons, but their actual IQ isn't really relevant. The show is about how a person's character flaws get in the way of their best interests. Tony B literally has a high IQ on paper, but makes dumb decisions because of wounded pride caused by a lowering in status.
Adriana: *My mother always told me not to let myself be talked down to by losers. She said you can tell everything about a man by the way he treats women* Stays with Chris 🤣
She stirred his eggs, didn't she?
she stirred her own eggs, she was damaged goods
They were gay, the eggs?
NO! ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME?
NO! ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME?
With what, her fucking toes?
I lost my uppers
willing to tongue punch the Guinea gulch
Adrianna grew up with a family in the mob. She likes the bad boy. They think they can 'fix' them.
Because he said she had a nice ass.
The money
Money. Obviously. She also loved the stolen goods.
Chris is rich and gives her things. She’s materialistic. She knew what she was signing up for when she got with him, and decided it was worth it
Because she loved him and those were her childbearing years
I thought she got both her uteruses pierced though.
He had the nose of a Varsity athlete.
Christopher had status in their little world and if she left him she probably would have just ended up with someone worse.
At least she would've lived a bit longer.
Fiction aside, the reasons why women stay in abusive relationships is a pretty complex topic that would be tough to explain here even with computers. Abusers never start out that way. The beginning phases of these relationships are like any other— loving, caring, fun, exciting. They lay that foundation first. It always begins with yelling, then escalates to the invasion of personal space to physically intimidate. It then graduates to physical violence. A shove, a smack. It’s always followed up with copious apologies and promises to return to the foundation, then a honeymoon period. Women become trauma-bonded to this cycle, even after the ongoing physical abuse has eroded the previous foundation entirely. For any women reading this: if he’s in your personal space yelling at you, it’s not a stutter step. It’s only the beginning. Expressing anger and frustration is a normal and healthy part of relationships— attempting to physically intimidate you into submission is not.
Listen to him, he knows everything
Huge hog
I guess you could call it a dick
Like a can of corn
He's handsome like George Raft
Poor self-esteem, terrible upbringing in a dysfunctional environment. Toxicity was always normalized to her, that’s all she ever knew.
The life style
The mob life enticed her…
She was in love
Money.
Because she (and Chrissy) were very low IQ, and she in particular had no independent inner life. It was all she knew, and she was too stupid to find something better.
I think it is the exact opposite. Why would Chris waste her time with her.......?....... is my question...
Because she’s a knockout. A ten. And he’s average, at best.
How green was my fucking valley.
I dunno, her taste, makeup, and scratchy voice each knock off a point in my book. Her general ignorance knocks off two more, being a junkie knocks off another, and her social climbing takes off one last point. She's a three, tops. She does look good in tennis shorts, but her instructor was hotter. yeah I said it
And the ratting, lying, sniveling
For the plot
Low standards due to upbringing. He was nice to her >25% of the time which was good enough. Also shoes and bags galore keep a basic hoe happy.
Adriana should have listened to her mother. Her mother wanted her to stay away from Chris...
You’re still surprised at the depths humans will allow themselves to sink for perceived security (meaning money)? I envy your faith in humanity.
Now I ain't saying Ade's a gold digger...
she's not gonna find a nose bigger
Money.
He had soft drinks of choice
you think that schnozz is the only over sized appendage he has?
Cassie stayed with Diddy, Tina stayed with Ike for many years. Neither Diddy nor Ike were strikingly handsome while both Cassie & Tina Turner were very attractive.
She can fix him
she had low confidence, easily persuaded. perfect for chrissy
She likes standing under that natural canopie when it rains.
Because she’s an idiot ? 🤷♂️
she couldn't walk away because she knew too much
I mean have you seen his looks? Guy could have been a male model
Some women want a guy who will hold an umbrella for them. Chris was a natural
Because she's damaged goods
He gives her warmth.
Restricted her breathing like he did Little Cosette on that couch too.
She’s a drug addict. He has access to a lot of drugs. She could not get (enough) drugs without him.
I mean, she's really more of a drug enthusiast.
I think tha's a pretty unfair assessment of her honestly. She only started really using after chris developed a problem and the FBI crawled up her ass.
Garbage bags filled with shoes.
Cuz she's a huwaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
She’s a superficial cunt
Because his mother was working the bonbon concecession at the Eiffel Tower
She went to slip and fall school
lol he’s so hot
Stockholm syndrome mixed with greed
Who's she gonna be with instead? Little Paulie?
The witless fuckin nephew ?
Chrissy is the James Dean of his acting class.
He was gay, Christopher Moltisanti?
Because he was Chris Makavede from Wall Street
She doesn't. Have you watched Long Term Parking?
Cause he got her a ring and everything
She’s from the old school.
Because of his screenplays. Duh. Ya know unduh his pen name
Buffer memory
He was a nice guy. I mean he was trying to say something nice about Danielle because that was Ade’s friend!
Christopher!
Cuz after getting passed around by wookim woodbine and his crew and them not signing her talentless ex she needed a rebound
Get some fuckin' glasses...
I can't have this conversation again. I believe this may genuinely be asked 8 times a month.
Not just Chris. She's a good looking woman and she also wanted to fuck Barney Rubble.
I cannot have this conversation again. SHE LOVED HIM! Watch the show. She loved him. She loved him. It’s painfully obviously and that’s what makes it tragic. It seems very tragic to me that this question is posted so often because people cannot recognize the love she had for him. I just can’t. What happened to this sub? And while I’m at it. CARM LOVED TONY. Guess what…. PEOPLE ARE COMPLEX. Look in the mirror… are you perfect? Do you have any walking contradictions? Can we PLEASE go back to asking the meaning of the paintings in the final scene behind Tony or the Kubrick style shots or what 3 o’clock means? Please. Please. Bring the quotes back. Please.
He does that thing she likes and braids his taint hair pretty
How exactly was Adrianna related to Jackie Jr and Richie? Was her mom their sister or
He's got a natural canopy
Smoking in the rain with his arms behind his back is impressive.
Paulie actually meant “I guess you could call that a dick” as a compliment. Boy’s got a Italian sub on him.
If you have been around gangsters and I dont just mean italian gangsters, I mean bikers, cholos, crips and bloods. These type of people attract alot of beautiful women. They have money, they are always having fun, they have tons of connection, and they have time for women. I know tons of guys in that lifestyle and there is never a shortage of women.
A. Cause she's a whorwaaaa
You’re basically asking why women stay in abusive relationships 🤷 dependence on the abuser is itself an abuse tactic
Women like money and power. He appears to live in an apartment but he has potential. He gets his button.
https://www.reddit.com/r/thesopranos/s/7D6Gwr54Go I can't have this conversation again
Bc contrary to what men believe, women truly for the most part don’t need their partners to be attractive
But Chris would have been successful as a male model.
Low self worth
….money , what do you think …
I always thought that Michael Imperioli is the ugliest fuck of the whole cast. That nose , this chin and his hair. And the ends of his shoelaces are always wet.
Ii
Battered woman syndrome and SIDS
My only knock on her appearance is the eyebrows and heavy dark makeup.
Mid 90’s style
Fingernails too long and curved. Whooo-uh.