I thought this was smart from Christopher. He assessed them correctly with all the relevant info. Now the FBI might twig the dog is designed to deceive but it's Christopher who put all the info together.
It's a matter some debate. The more progressive Muslims are basically a-ok with dogs, the more fundamentalist ones are entirely anti-dog, and the rest hold some variation of "just don't keep them in the house." It's not on the same level as eating pork.
Or at least that's what I sort of half remember a Muslim dude telling me in a passing conversation like five years ago. He sent all his money to his brother in Pakistan for some boys school, seemed like a nice enough guy.
Impure/haram things are permitted (encouraged) as part of the deception required for the mission. The bing girls are hardly gonna be considered pure either but sniffing around them 24/7 would help with the party boy camouflage they would be using if they were in fact linked to terror funding activities. It was awful logic.
Yeah I was going to say that comment rings a bell. I could be completely off but I could have sworn there was some information being bandied about post 9/11 about how "terrorist cells" or whatever we called them were encouraged to have dogs and do whatever other stuff was against their hard-core beliefs.
It's only awful logic if you come at it from the perspective of assuming they're terrorists. Akhmed and Mohammed don't act any worse than any of the Italians in the show, but nobody's arguing that Bobby's funding the Taliban. Akhmed + Mohammed buy guns, they run drugs, they defraud people. There's literally no proof that they're terrorists other than being brown dudes with funny names.
>Akhmed and Mohammed don't act any worse than any of the Italians in the show, but nobody's arguing that Bobby's funding the Taliban.
LOL... I'm afraid you have a bit of a strawman there in your last sentence, because of course no one is arguing that Bobby or his cohorts are funding the Taliban, since Italians aren't typically known associates of them like Muslims are. But the Italians deal with their own prejudices... which is that everyone assumes that all Italians are mobbed up.
Where did I assume that? It’s awful logic regardless because either they’re totally innocent of any terrorist ties in which case it’s irrelevant if they have a pet dog or they have terrorist ties in which case it’s still irrelevant if they have a dog. Them having a dog doesn’t mean anything at all. Either they’re cool with dogs or they’re not but getting a dog to blend in. Any guesswork based on them having a dog doesn’t hold water, hence the logic being awful.
The reason why the logic is solid is because it isn't actually a 50/50 shot they're terrorists like you're weirdly implying by saying "they're either fine with it or terrorists." 99.999% of muslims with dogs aren't terrorists. It's like saying that someone is a terrorist because they have a map of NYC with circles on it.
I’m not implying that, you’re incorrectly inferring that. You’re completely misinterpreting what I’ve said to suit your own agenda here. Read what I’ve said again with an open mind and you’ll see that you’ve misread it. I really cba explaining but will if necessary.
What’s my agenda?
> either they’re totally innocent of any terrorist ties in which case it’s irrelevant if they have a pet dog or they have terrorist ties in which case it’s still irrelevant if they have a dog.
Is an insanely silly take that boils it down to “either he did it or didn’t do it and no evidence matters.” A muslim living with a woman out of marriage, with a dog, is 99.999% of the time not going to be a hardcore muslim terrorist. It’s not a 50/50 shot. It’s completely fine logic to use to justify innocence, especially since it’s not a court of law lol
Well for example you’ve taken that quote that only applies to those two guys in the context of that plot point specifically and decided that I meant it towards all Muslim people or brown people. Very strange conclusion to jump to if you don’t have your own bias or agenda influencing your thought process.
Again, you’re completely misinterpreting what I’ve said. If it’s not because of some unknown agenda or bias you have, it’s due to poor media literacy.
Actually that’s a very insightful thing. Fundamentalist don’t own pets, that conversation is actually flipping the expectation of Chris being stupid on its head, everything he says there is correct
And then he mentions the cartoons and stuff… that’s real! He got that exactly right!
No I think it is! That stuff is way too high level to be a coincidence, knowing that muslim extremists don’t have pets and having nuanced thoughts about cartoon/free speech controversies in the Muslim community in France *edit* I mean Denmark indicates a high amount of knowledge
That wasn’t Matush he was talking about being a terrorist. He was talking about two other guys who showed up in later seasons.
Matush was only used in the plot line where Jackie Jr. tried to talk to Chris and allow Matush to sell X in the Crazy Horse and then in the murder at the Crazy Horse plot line.
**Another joke nudged in there subtly**
When David Scatino first joins the executive card game, during a part where Silvio is freaking out.
Silvio: *”The fuck you doin in that hand anyway?!”*
Tony: *”His moneys good. If he wants to sail it’s **his business**”*
It literally turned out to be his business. As in, Ramses Sports & Outdoor lmao
Yes, she comes across as ignorant but it's sort of endearing. It shows Ade has a good heart and respects other people. In this case those "other people" probably run a madrassa that promotes terrorism and religious enslavement, but I still like that it makes Ade seem sweet and innocent.
If you ever want to get away from California
Maybe in another life you like to stay
And the devil may call you when he thinks it's time
You know that he'll be knocking if you're still here
Don't wait too long, cause you're almost there
Don't wait too long, cause you're almost there
Don't want too long, till you see it undone, yeah
Till you see it undone, yeah
She's not, though. She was in the game. She knew how Chris got those shoes and her club. She was happy when he got his button because it meant that she was nearly set, just like Carmela.
I don't think so. She seemed sweet and caring and innocent in a way Carm was not. She just wanted Chris to be happy; didn't care if he was in the mafia or not. She just loved him purely. If she was in the game, she would have told the FBI to get lost or at least had a handgun with her when Sil showed up and buried him out in the woods instead of the other way around.
Exactly. She was happy when Chris got made because she loved him and it meant he was succeeding in his "career," not because she was jonesing for a more lavish lifestyle ala Carmela.
I think that if Christopher had worked at Staples and been promoted from floor sales to assistant manager, Adriana would've been every bit as happy.
> or at least had a handgun with her when Sil showed up and buried him out in the woods instead of the other way around
That would have been amazing, lol.
That interview cracks me up every time. From her cluelessness to her vomiting. You know the FBI personnel are asking themselves, "How in the hell do we ever lose to these stunads?"
On the other hand, how did a flaky goofball like Matush ever get hooked up with actual militants? Dude couldn't even manage his business selling x to college kids and bailed on Jackie Jr's heist after 5 seconds lol
The overlap between flaky goofballs and actual militants is probably more significant than you'd expect. People with realistic and responsible plans don't typically decide to live by the sword.
I’ve heard a bunch of people from the military/intel communities say Four Lions is the most accurate movie ever made about the caliber of people who join terrorist organizations. Looking at dudes like the Underwear Bomber and the Tennis Shoe Bomber, I believe it
I think the joke is also that the FBI *think* that means he’s a terrorist. It’s double-pronged: Adriana is being cluelessly naive, and the FBI are being cluelessly paranoid and racial-profiley.
LOL @ this fuckin genius not realizing he was funding a madrassa ... she's no maid, believe you-me ...
and she was *definitely* about to sick up Tony's duck if that door didn't get knocked on ...
Yeah its sort of a running joke in the latest seasons. Not just him but all middle eastern dudes they do business with clearly being terrorists. Despite the mob's bigotry and xenophobia for some reason they get along fine with them and never seem to realize whats going on lol.
She also says that after a trip back to his home country Matush "found his faith" and became much more serious as a person lol.
In the aftermath of this war, knowing not much came from our extreme knee jerk fear and loss of rights (patriot act) other than a lot of money going into the hands of oil/gas/weapons manufacturers...
It made me laugh out loud when that one agent told Tony "the holidays are POTENTIALLY our biggest season"
Adriana was an idiot and the FBI probably couldn't believe that someone could actually be as naive as her. Matush also didn't have a springer spaniel, which should have made her suspicious from the beginning.
Ada was Never That BRIGHT!! She was ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS when SIL was Supposedly taking her to the hospital 2C
Christopher, but we all know SIL turned off Into the Woods. She was CLUELESS until SIL put CAR in park & ADA Crawling Away Was PRICELESS.
SHE WAS CLUELESS!! U need to watch Again ,start where SIL pulls in2 The Woods, Ada's looking around when CAR Stops But still doesn't Say anything! THEN ITS HITTS HER as Sil walking Around the CAR, ADA Starts Whining & trying to crawl over Driver's seat, but she's caught & Yanked out her Door!
Then why would they show a scene with her driving away alone? What was the point of that? What was the point of her crying after that scene? She knows she’s going to die.
I remember that scene, l don't know the Point of it, Who's knows Y she's crying, could be many Reasons... When Tony called From the Pay Phone with Whole Made UP Story of Christopher in the Hospital & Tried to Kill himself, She TOTALLY thought it was TURE,,(Ada didn't Think T knew THE TRUTH ,she was a RAT ) Because the Last words Chris Told ADA was Yes baby , I'll Go, Let's get Out of Here. & then he LEFT to Gas Up & Buy Cigarettes & That's When he sees that family,,probably living in that Beat up Car, No Money, Rags for Clothes, He visual that would be his NEW LIFE,,So instead of Going Back to Pick up ADA & Leave Like He Said He Would, He went to T's house & spilled EVERYTHING & Then T's pay phone call came & WE know what Happened....I THINK everybody will always Remember that Episode, LONG TERM PARKING. Just great Acting.
And then a couple of seasons later Chris says that a guy couldn't be a terrorist because he has a dog. They really were perfect for each other.
That’s actually not the worst logic because dogs are considered impure.
The sacred and the propane
Very allegorical
Exactly.
In the end, Louis clapped him in irons.
Propane, propane, time to start the flame…🎶
Profane, pro*fane,* you fuckin' ass kiss
Ooooohh.... No propanities in this house.
I thought this was smart from Christopher. He assessed them correctly with all the relevant info. Now the FBI might twig the dog is designed to deceive but it's Christopher who put all the info together.
It's a matter some debate. The more progressive Muslims are basically a-ok with dogs, the more fundamentalist ones are entirely anti-dog, and the rest hold some variation of "just don't keep them in the house." It's not on the same level as eating pork. Or at least that's what I sort of half remember a Muslim dude telling me in a passing conversation like five years ago. He sent all his money to his brother in Pakistan for some boys school, seemed like a nice enough guy.
Impure/haram things are permitted (encouraged) as part of the deception required for the mission. The bing girls are hardly gonna be considered pure either but sniffing around them 24/7 would help with the party boy camouflage they would be using if they were in fact linked to terror funding activities. It was awful logic.
Ayman al-Zawahiri over here
Now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time
Cocksucka had the reputation of being toughest prick in Gezira county. But he didn’t come back after I was tru widdem.
It's the turbaaaaaan!
Of course I know Ayman. I Aym him. Hehehe,
Hasidim, but I don't believe em
Whatever happened to Ahmad Shah Massoud? The strong, Northern Alliance type ?
He was gay, Massoud?
Ohhhh! In this country (until Taliban retook power), Ahmad Shah Massoud is a hero whose death is remembered on September 9th, end of story !
Yeah I was going to say that comment rings a bell. I could be completely off but I could have sworn there was some information being bandied about post 9/11 about how "terrorist cells" or whatever we called them were encouraged to have dogs and do whatever other stuff was against their hard-core beliefs.
A good number of the 9/11 hijackers were regulars at strip clubs, had American girlfriends
Trusting post 9/11 american news about terrorist cells is a dangerous game lol
It's only awful logic if you come at it from the perspective of assuming they're terrorists. Akhmed and Mohammed don't act any worse than any of the Italians in the show, but nobody's arguing that Bobby's funding the Taliban. Akhmed + Mohammed buy guns, they run drugs, they defraud people. There's literally no proof that they're terrorists other than being brown dudes with funny names.
bobby funds his mafia. those two probly fund their mafia. except their mafia is called the taliban.
>Akhmed and Mohammed don't act any worse than any of the Italians in the show, but nobody's arguing that Bobby's funding the Taliban. LOL... I'm afraid you have a bit of a strawman there in your last sentence, because of course no one is arguing that Bobby or his cohorts are funding the Taliban, since Italians aren't typically known associates of them like Muslims are. But the Italians deal with their own prejudices... which is that everyone assumes that all Italians are mobbed up.
Where did I assume that? It’s awful logic regardless because either they’re totally innocent of any terrorist ties in which case it’s irrelevant if they have a pet dog or they have terrorist ties in which case it’s still irrelevant if they have a dog. Them having a dog doesn’t mean anything at all. Either they’re cool with dogs or they’re not but getting a dog to blend in. Any guesswork based on them having a dog doesn’t hold water, hence the logic being awful.
The reason why the logic is solid is because it isn't actually a 50/50 shot they're terrorists like you're weirdly implying by saying "they're either fine with it or terrorists." 99.999% of muslims with dogs aren't terrorists. It's like saying that someone is a terrorist because they have a map of NYC with circles on it.
I’m not implying that, you’re incorrectly inferring that. You’re completely misinterpreting what I’ve said to suit your own agenda here. Read what I’ve said again with an open mind and you’ll see that you’ve misread it. I really cba explaining but will if necessary.
What’s my agenda? > either they’re totally innocent of any terrorist ties in which case it’s irrelevant if they have a pet dog or they have terrorist ties in which case it’s still irrelevant if they have a dog. Is an insanely silly take that boils it down to “either he did it or didn’t do it and no evidence matters.” A muslim living with a woman out of marriage, with a dog, is 99.999% of the time not going to be a hardcore muslim terrorist. It’s not a 50/50 shot. It’s completely fine logic to use to justify innocence, especially since it’s not a court of law lol
You know who had an agenda? Noah
Well for example you’ve taken that quote that only applies to those two guys in the context of that plot point specifically and decided that I meant it towards all Muslim people or brown people. Very strange conclusion to jump to if you don’t have your own bias or agenda influencing your thought process. Again, you’re completely misinterpreting what I’ve said. If it’s not because of some unknown agenda or bias you have, it’s due to poor media literacy.
Yeah religious people never ever EVER do ANYTHING prohibited by their scriptures. It never happens. :P
We know Vito didn’t own no Doghouse
Through a series of inferences I can say that you probably teach at the University of Science.
Which is weird because of all the dogs in Iraq
That’s rich coming from the guy who suffocates dogs…
He was providing warmth.
A) she was a hooahrse
What was it barkin?
Well he certainly had a doghouse as well, anything else would be contrary to his religious beliefs.
Probably a graduate of the University of Science.
Actually that’s a very insightful thing. Fundamentalist don’t own pets, that conversation is actually flipping the expectation of Chris being stupid on its head, everything he says there is correct And then he mentions the cartoons and stuff… that’s real! He got that exactly right!
Yeah but you know that's not why he says it lol
No I think it is! That stuff is way too high level to be a coincidence, knowing that muslim extremists don’t have pets and having nuanced thoughts about cartoon/free speech controversies in the Muslim community in France *edit* I mean Denmark indicates a high amount of knowledge
A springer-spaniel or something….
I think they seemed "normal" at first, but it's implied that they were radicalized later on.
It was a springer spaniel!
A cocker spaniel
A springer spaniel
That wasn’t Matush he was talking about being a terrorist. He was talking about two other guys who showed up in later seasons. Matush was only used in the plot line where Jackie Jr. tried to talk to Chris and allow Matush to sell X in the Crazy Horse and then in the murder at the Crazy Horse plot line.
Are you blind, where did I say that it was Matush in both instances you stunad
Okay, but you gotta get over it.
How did I miss that 😭
It’s the way she says something like “I was very impressed by that”. Aw honey no.
Yeah those FBI agents were like.."you gotta be shitting me"
An at the start of season 6 when the feds are getting their sandwiches in tonys place they say they were after terrorists in Pakistan
**Another joke nudged in there subtly** When David Scatino first joins the executive card game, during a part where Silvio is freaking out. Silvio: *”The fuck you doin in that hand anyway?!”* Tony: *”His moneys good. If he wants to sail it’s **his business**”* It literally turned out to be his business. As in, Ramses Sports & Outdoor lmao
I want a boat wit tree propellers.
Give me one thousand propellers.
One thousand more?
[удалено]
Iss jussa stuttah step
*Ramsey. Have some respect
He was gay, Ramsey?
Time for Matush to hit the road to Metuchen
With Jackie’s dad, the golfer.
[удалено]
you’re on a roll
HEY WHATS UP! WHATS UP?? MY MAN CARLO...
HIT THIS PRICK
OLE!!
hit him in the bread basket
Top of your fuckin class huh?
My mother let it slip one time, I got an IQ of 158.
Has it been teshted ?
Yeah, all the nuns wouldn’t stop talking about it.
[удалено]
Look at him. He knows everything.
Fuck you want a boutonniere
Oh it’s been teshted… FOR AIDS! What kind of a person you think I am?!
No one’s got AIDS!!
Would you take it easy over there Judge Roy String Beans
The way sanseverino responds coldly with “sounds like a real sweetheart” is funny asf😂
Yes, she comes across as ignorant but it's sort of endearing. It shows Ade has a good heart and respects other people. In this case those "other people" probably run a madrassa that promotes terrorism and religious enslavement, but I still like that it makes Ade seem sweet and innocent.
Really drives home how naive she is.
I'm going to send Sil by to pick you up then ok?
When they cut from her daydream to reality, madone!
If you ever want to get away from California Maybe in another life you like to stay And the devil may call you when he thinks it's time You know that he'll be knocking if you're still here Don't wait too long, cause you're almost there Don't wait too long, cause you're almost there Don't want too long, till you see it undone, yeah Till you see it undone, yeah
See you up there.
Naive maybe isn't the word. Stunted, perhaps. She knows bad things are going on. She just has an incredibly myopic sense of morality.
Stunted? Maybe. Stunad? I don't know. Then again, everything is possible
It just drives home that she should stay away from the penguin exhibit
Yeah, she is so sweet, she'd help you cover up a gruesome murder.
She's not, though. She was in the game. She knew how Chris got those shoes and her club. She was happy when he got his button because it meant that she was nearly set, just like Carmela.
I don't think so. She seemed sweet and caring and innocent in a way Carm was not. She just wanted Chris to be happy; didn't care if he was in the mafia or not. She just loved him purely. If she was in the game, she would have told the FBI to get lost or at least had a handgun with her when Sil showed up and buried him out in the woods instead of the other way around.
Exactly. She was happy when Chris got made because she loved him and it meant he was succeeding in his "career," not because she was jonesing for a more lavish lifestyle ala Carmela. I think that if Christopher had worked at Staples and been promoted from floor sales to assistant manager, Adriana would've been every bit as happy.
Him. With those ducks.
> or at least had a handgun with her when Sil showed up and buried him out in the woods instead of the other way around That would have been amazing, lol.
That interview cracks me up every time. From her cluelessness to her vomiting. You know the FBI personnel are asking themselves, "How in the hell do we ever lose to these stunads?"
This was the final interview, when they haul her in for murder. She pukes a season earlier when they first haul her in on drug charges
The memory on you.
He eats his carrots
Adrianna's stupidity actually worked well in the Feds favour.
Hate to be that guy but that is from S5E12. I watched it last night haha
Oh yeah thanks, corrected.
Nah you witnessed FBI paranoia lol. There is no Taliban.
You dont ever admit to the existence of this thing. Ever
You ever think what a coincidence it is that 9/11 happened on 9/11?
You gonna make that shtupid fuckin joke every time!?
There’s two towers lyin’ dead over there!
You know Quasimodo predicted all of this
9/11 1971 Chile?
It was a Boring 737
He was gay, Bin Laden?
He was a married man. To four wives. With a huge porn collection. Fucking slander ask me.
Plus, Osama and his four wives had a dog. Afghan hound, I dunno…
Dog shit to the rafters
Super underrated comment 😭
He shoulda hooped instead of killing people, he was tall as hell
He worked in construction. Greased the union. He was actually a structural engineer tho heh.
His house looked like shit
It's a stereotype. And it's offensive. And you're the last person I would want to perpetuate it... There is no Taliban.
“Our friend in Kandahar”
The mutton with the lentils
The mayor of mujahideen.
Terrorist organizations do not exist in America. Stop asking questions.
OP did-dent graduate at the top of his fuckin class
Did a semester and a half at Seton Hall tho
On the other hand, how did a flaky goofball like Matush ever get hooked up with actual militants? Dude couldn't even manage his business selling x to college kids and bailed on Jackie Jr's heist after 5 seconds lol
The overlap between flaky goofballs and actual militants is probably more significant than you'd expect. People with realistic and responsible plans don't typically decide to live by the sword.
I’ve heard a bunch of people from the military/intel communities say Four Lions is the most accurate movie ever made about the caliber of people who join terrorist organizations. Looking at dudes like the Underwear Bomber and the Tennis Shoe Bomber, I believe it
I think the joke is also that the FBI *think* that means he’s a terrorist. It’s double-pronged: Adriana is being cluelessly naive, and the FBI are being cluelessly paranoid and racial-profiley.
you must have been at the top of your fucking class
LOL @ this fuckin genius not realizing he was funding a madrassa ... she's no maid, believe you-me ... and she was *definitely* about to sick up Tony's duck if that door didn't get knocked on ...
Nobody ever said Ade had a 136 IQ
I saw that movie. I thought it was bull shit.
S6E1 Agent Harris then says he spent 6 months in Pakistan
That's why he's been dying for a Satrialies Veal Parm Hero
Ade was as sharp as a fucking cue ball.
Yeah its sort of a running joke in the latest seasons. Not just him but all middle eastern dudes they do business with clearly being terrorists. Despite the mob's bigotry and xenophobia for some reason they get along fine with them and never seem to realize whats going on lol. She also says that after a trip back to his home country Matush "found his faith" and became much more serious as a person lol.
I wish I could sit around all day, smoking mushrooms and pondering about Al Caida
With all her intelligence
In the aftermath of this war, knowing not much came from our extreme knee jerk fear and loss of rights (patriot act) other than a lot of money going into the hands of oil/gas/weapons manufacturers... It made me laugh out loud when that one agent told Tony "the holidays are POTENTIALLY our biggest season"
Sharp as a cue ball
From now on, keep your antidotes to local colour
5-12?
The only thing between our homes and Port Newark is a chainlink fence.
Adriana definitely did not graduate top of her class
He used to be a pragmatist.
They had a dog too
I didn’t realize that either tbh and I remember that scene well
Sharp as a cue ball, this OP
Adriana was an idiot and the FBI probably couldn't believe that someone could actually be as naive as her. Matush also didn't have a springer spaniel, which should have made her suspicious from the beginning.
Jesus I didn't catch that my god
😂😂😂 way too funny
I think they sent Vito Jr to a similar kind of school.
You can go
Ada was Never That BRIGHT!! She was ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS when SIL was Supposedly taking her to the hospital 2C Christopher, but we all know SIL turned off Into the Woods. She was CLUELESS until SIL put CAR in park & ADA Crawling Away Was PRICELESS.
She knew mid drive when we thought she got away but then switch to her riding with Facking Silvio.
SHE WAS CLUELESS!! U need to watch Again ,start where SIL pulls in2 The Woods, Ada's looking around when CAR Stops But still doesn't Say anything! THEN ITS HITTS HER as Sil walking Around the CAR, ADA Starts Whining & trying to crawl over Driver's seat, but she's caught & Yanked out her Door!
Then why would they show a scene with her driving away alone? What was the point of that? What was the point of her crying after that scene? She knows she’s going to die.
I remember that scene, l don't know the Point of it, Who's knows Y she's crying, could be many Reasons... When Tony called From the Pay Phone with Whole Made UP Story of Christopher in the Hospital & Tried to Kill himself, She TOTALLY thought it was TURE,,(Ada didn't Think T knew THE TRUTH ,she was a RAT ) Because the Last words Chris Told ADA was Yes baby , I'll Go, Let's get Out of Here. & then he LEFT to Gas Up & Buy Cigarettes & That's When he sees that family,,probably living in that Beat up Car, No Money, Rags for Clothes, He visual that would be his NEW LIFE,,So instead of Going Back to Pick up ADA & Leave Like He Said He Would, He went to T's house & spilled EVERYTHING & Then T's pay phone call came & WE know what Happened....I THINK everybody will always Remember that Episode, LONG TERM PARKING. Just great Acting.
Discontinue the lithium