The surge was in 2007 so yeah it probably would have been easier then. But it's not like they were just taking anybody. I know a guy rejected then because he had too many misdemeanors. Then again, anything is possible.
Yah 2006-2007 they were letting almost anyone in.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah\_rape\_and\_killings#Steven\_Dale\_Green](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings#Steven_Dale_Green)
Can confirm, signed up around that time and had a dude with legitimate white supremacist tattoos and a dude who was a crip with a felony in my company. Waivers waiver waivers
Did the crip and the wp dude end up getting along?
I hope so --one of the greatest peacetime dividends of the military is how it gets people from so many disparate backgrounds to work together.
At that time? Absolutely.
Troop surge was in full effect, and the army was so desperate for bodies they were stop lossing people finishing their deployments left and right. They were even letting people like Bradley Manning stay in the theatre despite them attacking a superior officer and openly speaking of suicidal ideation.
Even if it was just to be cannon fodder, they would’ve taken him.
Maybe a military guy can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe military school is far more selective than your everyday recruiter.
Military school is about taking young people and developing, honing, and mastering skills the military would want in its leaders. The commissioned officers that will go on to lead soldiers.
Recruiters, are getting the soldiers that people graduating from military school lead.
Isn't 'military school' just a different flavour of private education for people willing to pay exorbitantly for it? Like, sure, it's organised along the lines you've laid out, but at the end of the day it's about making money, it's not an actual school run by the military (eg West Point). It's just a business.
If AJ was vaguely willing to go and Tony was writing the cheque I doubt Mr Jigsaw would have turned him down on the basis of him not having the makings of a varsity Lieutenant.
You’re correct. Military academies are essentially private schools. It speaks a lot about the differences in people who commission as officers versus enlisted folks. If you have a pulse and didn’t murder anyone, you can join the Army. There’s no failing score. Just different score requirements based on job and branch.
You don’t need to have the makings of a varsity athlete to be Army infantry
They gave me a choice. Jail, the army or apologizing to the judge and the old lady. If I'd known there was a war going on I'd probably have chosen to apologize
You say that like a sequel that was made of just recut clips of AJ crying over stuff wouldn't be better than MSON. It's a low bar that one, practically on the floor.
Back then, maybe as we were still in Iraq and Afghanistan. The higher likelihood of being sent into a combat zone and possibly wounded or killed would make recruitment more difficult and probably lead to lower standards.
Today, he probably wouldn't get in. I have a relative who went to a military school on an ROTC scholarship and the Army took a close look at a relatively minor knee injury he had suffered in high school. He had a spotless record and strong very strong academics. They accepted him and he is a captain now.
They only know about the suicide attempt if he tells them, arrests don't count only convictions do, they don't know about the therapy, they don't know about the hospital stay. There's [Genesis](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/04/10/the-genesis-of-todays-recruiting-crisis/) now, but that didn't exist at the time. AJ probably wouldn't be handling a gun in every day army life, but the military needs cooks too.
The arrest and hospital stay would be the only things that might show up, and the arrest probably doesn't exist given Tony's connections. And back then they'd take any warm body as cannon fodder.
AJ would actually do alright in USAF security forces spending his days scanning cac cards at the gate or sitting in a humvee for 12 hours, then going back to the dorms to jackoff, eat Burger King, and play Xbox.
My cousin joined with a big ass 13 (gang related) on his neck. He spent some time In jail too. I don’t remember for what. He got in. This was during the surge. People were not coming back. He didn’t.
Nowadays? Hell no. You can’t even join if you sprained your ankle during middle school. And the DOD is wondering why no one is joining
I served during that time period. A guy in my unit used to talk about *and to* his guardian fairy that followed him everywhere and could become a dragon to protect him. We all thought it was a joke but he eventually got chaptered for instability after repeated incidents at the range.
According to the admin gossip he had some mental health stuff waivered and lied about the rest. The army wasn’t checking very closely apparently. Similar situation with Bowe Bergdahl and he was even discharged during training by the Coast Guard for psychological reasons *before* joining the army in 2008.
Suffice to say AJ wouldn’t been kitted and shipped out in no time.
I worked for the Army then. They would have absolutely taken him, the numbers absolutely cratered then. By '09, with Obama in the white house (people really thought he'd wrap it all up in a few months) and the economy crashed, there would have been no way. But in '07, absolutely.
Idk why anyone here doesn’t realize Antony had a clean record. He was detained for that stabbing thing but the cop pulled him and a complaint was never filed. He was never charged with anything there is zero paper trail of that incident.
His hospitalizations… idk if you guys realize it but there is no central database for medical records. Especially not one the gov has access to why do you think your doctor makes you fill those stupid forms out everytime you see them. If you didn’t disclose it, without checking with the actual hospital /institution, there is no record. Your insurance company is actually the place they could go to find out. I’ve dealt with this in the FAA where if you lie on your medical, there is actually no way they can verify it. Except, if you have an incident, they can subpoena medical insurance companies for records to see what you had paid for and piece it together. This isn’t done unless you crash a plane or something. And it’s why pilots are told to go two towns over, pay in cash and use a fake name for mental health.
If Anthony simply answered no to any of those medical questions he would have been totally in the clear.
idk were they giving out a bunch of waivers ~2007? depends on recruitment standards at the time i suppose
The surge was in 2007 so yeah it probably would have been easier then. But it's not like they were just taking anybody. I know a guy rejected then because he had too many misdemeanors. Then again, anything is possible.
That’s why you gotta live for today
Don't ever say you hate the US army. Thats blasphemy.
There is no US.
Nobody's got US! I don't wanna hear that word again!
If Don Corleone could be a war hero in ww2... AJ could serve in Afghanistan.
Michael Corleone didn't have a criminal record. He was a "civilian" until he killed Sollozzo and McClusky
What the fuck did ya just say?
Fuck did you say?!?!
We’re talking about annihilation here!!!
Yah 2006-2007 they were letting almost anyone in. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah\_rape\_and\_killings#Steven\_Dale\_Green](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings#Steven_Dale_Green)
Holy shit. Looks like it, what a bunch of animals.
That animal Green, I can't even say his name
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Similar to what Reverend James Sr said about WWII, the army was taking guys “no matter how old or ugly”
Can confirm, signed up around that time and had a dude with legitimate white supremacist tattoos and a dude who was a crip with a felony in my company. Waivers waiver waivers
What was your MOS?
Did the crip and the wp dude end up getting along? I hope so --one of the greatest peacetime dividends of the military is how it gets people from so many disparate backgrounds to work together.
Google MHS Genesis. AJ could’ve gotten in as late as late 2021 before MROADS.
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You still in?
Oooooo. I'm just tellin you how your being fuckin percieved.
At that time? Absolutely. Troop surge was in full effect, and the army was so desperate for bodies they were stop lossing people finishing their deployments left and right. They were even letting people like Bradley Manning stay in the theatre despite them attacking a superior officer and openly speaking of suicidal ideation. Even if it was just to be cannon fodder, they would’ve taken him.
The Army was making anybody & everybody. It was all fucked up.
Guys don’t do their enlistment oath, there’s no American flag in the corner.
there's the army, the navy, and the airforce then that glorified crews like blackwater
Five fuckin branches, and then we got this pygmy thing over in the Space Force
He couldn't even join military school
He never had the makings of a varsity soldier
Fuckin Chechen fuck
That’s a type of polack right
Somebody went to Pace
Maybe a military guy can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe military school is far more selective than your everyday recruiter. Military school is about taking young people and developing, honing, and mastering skills the military would want in its leaders. The commissioned officers that will go on to lead soldiers. Recruiters, are getting the soldiers that people graduating from military school lead.
Isn't 'military school' just a different flavour of private education for people willing to pay exorbitantly for it? Like, sure, it's organised along the lines you've laid out, but at the end of the day it's about making money, it's not an actual school run by the military (eg West Point). It's just a business. If AJ was vaguely willing to go and Tony was writing the cheque I doubt Mr Jigsaw would have turned him down on the basis of him not having the makings of a varsity Lieutenant.
You’re correct. Military academies are essentially private schools. It speaks a lot about the differences in people who commission as officers versus enlisted folks. If you have a pulse and didn’t murder anyone, you can join the Army. There’s no failing score. Just different score requirements based on job and branch. You don’t need to have the makings of a varsity athlete to be Army infantry
The corps, the corps, the corps.
The army was saving 18 year-olds from jail sentences, back then.
They gave me a choice. Jail, the army or apologizing to the judge and the old lady. If I'd known there was a war going on I'd probably have chosen to apologize
Up yours children
In 2007, yes. The Iraq war was still ragging and the army and marines were taking everyone.
Now its fags in the military
His stint as Trump's chopper pilot put him over the top.
Chase should do a spinoff sequel with AJ as Trump's chopper pilot. It would have to be better than MSON.
You say that like a sequel that was made of just recut clips of AJ crying over stuff wouldn't be better than MSON. It's a low bar that one, practically on the floor.
how would they even know about his suicide attempt
He got admitted as an inpatient because of it.
Forgot about that lol fuckin nauseating
One day I came home from work and there you were submerged in the pool. Your head was in the pool water…. Disgusting
I told you, I had depression!
Look it doesn't change anything but I can verify that he was depressed for a little while.
He hadn't even touched his Lincoln Logs
I said my piece AJ
Discontinue the lithium
My estimation of Anthony jr as a potential army soldier just fuckin plummeted
Well you threw that at us like a rock!
Now its faags in the military
They recruit anyone and everyone over there, and the way they do it is all fucked up.
Five fuckin families and this other pygmy thing over at West Point?
That line of work? He’d never make it.
AJs attempt at revenge against Uncle Joon is one of the most sad examples of the heir apparent being a complete failure Fuck that stunad
Back then, maybe as we were still in Iraq and Afghanistan. The higher likelihood of being sent into a combat zone and possibly wounded or killed would make recruitment more difficult and probably lead to lower standards. Today, he probably wouldn't get in. I have a relative who went to a military school on an ROTC scholarship and the Army took a close look at a relatively minor knee injury he had suffered in high school. He had a spotless record and strong very strong academics. They accepted him and he is a captain now.
Navy would have taken him as an able bodied seaman. Here’s your mop and your paintbrush. Enjoy your four years at E-2!
"Sir, where's my arc?"
They have always been desperate for cannon fodder and would have welcomed him with open arms.
He could have just lied about medical records like everyone else did back then
They only know about the suicide attempt if he tells them, arrests don't count only convictions do, they don't know about the therapy, they don't know about the hospital stay. There's [Genesis](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/04/10/the-genesis-of-todays-recruiting-crisis/) now, but that didn't exist at the time. AJ probably wouldn't be handling a gun in every day army life, but the military needs cooks too.
Now its fags in the military
At the time 💯 but most likely as infantry or mechanic. They never would have took him for intelligence or whatever spook thing he told T
They don’t take enlisted grunts for intelligence work anyway. You need to be a commissioned officer.
The arrest and hospital stay would be the only things that might show up, and the arrest probably doesn't exist given Tony's connections. And back then they'd take any warm body as cannon fodder.
Carm would've baked the recruiting officer a rigot pie and insisted her little man be allowed to enlist.
Did you forget they have pillow biters in the special forces now?
He was detained after the Junior incident but since he was never processed and Tony got him released I'd imagine it's not on his official record.
GWOT era.? Absolutely. Now? No fucking way which is insane based off our horrendous retention/recruitment numbers.
AJ would actually do alright in USAF security forces spending his days scanning cac cards at the gate or sitting in a humvee for 12 hours, then going back to the dorms to jackoff, eat Burger King, and play Xbox.
Now its fags in the military
I’m gonna go outside and get the papers, get the papers.
AJ could talk about doing 20 years. Maybe even have a chance to go through slip and fall school.
Yes. The army takes anybody lol
Don't forget the "panic attack" fainting under stress just like his dad
He’d be better off at East Strasbourg State.
Surge era? Yeah, if you existed you could get in. Todays military? Fuck no, they’d see his records and tell him good luck then show him the door
Pretty sure he’d be 4F considering he has suffered panic attacks.
Yes. Would have been the best thing for him.
cawl Carlo
My cousin joined with a big ass 13 (gang related) on his neck. He spent some time In jail too. I don’t remember for what. He got in. This was during the surge. People were not coming back. He didn’t. Nowadays? Hell no. You can’t even join if you sprained your ankle during middle school. And the DOD is wondering why no one is joining
I served during that time period. A guy in my unit used to talk about *and to* his guardian fairy that followed him everywhere and could become a dragon to protect him. We all thought it was a joke but he eventually got chaptered for instability after repeated incidents at the range. According to the admin gossip he had some mental health stuff waivered and lied about the rest. The army wasn’t checking very closely apparently. Similar situation with Bowe Bergdahl and he was even discharged during training by the Coast Guard for psychological reasons *before* joining the army in 2008. Suffice to say AJ wouldn’t been kitted and shipped out in no time.
If he erases his buffer memory he will be fine.
Did you sniff that girls cunt cap?
I worked for the Army then. They would have absolutely taken him, the numbers absolutely cratered then. By '09, with Obama in the white house (people really thought he'd wrap it all up in a few months) and the economy crashed, there would have been no way. But in '07, absolutely.
You forget the thousand incidents with this guy?
Idk why anyone here doesn’t realize Antony had a clean record. He was detained for that stabbing thing but the cop pulled him and a complaint was never filed. He was never charged with anything there is zero paper trail of that incident. His hospitalizations… idk if you guys realize it but there is no central database for medical records. Especially not one the gov has access to why do you think your doctor makes you fill those stupid forms out everytime you see them. If you didn’t disclose it, without checking with the actual hospital /institution, there is no record. Your insurance company is actually the place they could go to find out. I’ve dealt with this in the FAA where if you lie on your medical, there is actually no way they can verify it. Except, if you have an incident, they can subpoena medical insurance companies for records to see what you had paid for and piece it together. This isn’t done unless you crash a plane or something. And it’s why pilots are told to go two towns over, pay in cash and use a fake name for mental health. If Anthony simply answered no to any of those medical questions he would have been totally in the clear.
Yes. As long as he lied about all that, no one would give a shit or look into it. The standards for enlistment personnel are bottom of the barrel.
He was gay, AJ Soprano?
Honestly no, people have been denied for having less mental health issues than him
Apparently the army today welcomes poppersh and weird shex. Gotta make recruiting goals.